USA VS GREAT BRITAIN - Which Nation Wins? - WAR THUNDER

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[@KotalTotal]

I think part of why the British side lost is because the players were using the tanks too aggressively. Most British tanks are meant to act as sniper tanks and aren't meant for brawling. If the players on the British side were smart, they would've concentrated their Churchill tanks to fight the Jumbos. At the end of the day, it really just comes down to the player and how they use a vehicle.

[@TinyTank77]

Completely agree. Very valid comment

[@PilotsFlyHighOfficial]

+ lets not forget the use of APHE by 'Merica, Britain only had solid AP and APDS

[@shukes4645]

the jumbo could easily destroy the churchill 7 and 3 from the front and the churchills couldn't do much

[@Yayaloy9]

@@shukes4645 Jumbo also faster and cannon aren't that easy to hit too.

[@SoloBeing1]

and that if aphe was realistic any shots that dont aim at the crew of the tank foor example aiming at the engine would not have been a kill@@PilotsFlyHighOfficial

[@bmohr9826]

No LVTs? That’s strange considering how survivable they are against even aphe

[@yippeeeeeeeeeee3]

there were one or two

[@poly_ax]

britain uses ap so it would probabably shoot through the transmission engine thing if lucky and everybody knows where to shoot them i think

[@ericmarsha2103]

At 338 you can see an lvt passing by lol

[@tyrbaan7295]

I gotta admit, I love these comparison videos, but round 3 continues to be completely abused by lower tier or meme vehicles that really don't help the team at all. :(

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I’m going to limit it to just the actual tank vehicles moving forward. I though I could have it so participants could use vehicles of lower BR’s that would actually be helpful but I agree that rank comparison needs to stay within rank from now on.

[@tyrbaan7295]

@@ThunderWithMuffin that would probably be for the best as while some could be theoretically useful, like the T29-30 we saw, they were still in the place of a significantly better tank. The most egregious being the Light AA which is like a 1.3 vehicle. Other than that, I do really enjoy the series and I'm looking forward to what spin-offs of it we get.

[@trueweapon2349]

@@ThunderWithMuffin If someone uses a abrams and dies at the start its fine, but if someone uses a T30 and dies at the start somehow everyone is complaining about low rank vehicles.

[@tuanzixiao3666]

@@ThunderWithMuffin and maybe CAS too? because america had a massive advantage for CAS, and maybe open maps? because britain is superb at open maps

[@carrott36]

I love seeing my boys the V156 and Hampden getting some love in that first match! Both are incredibly underrated planes, I use the 156 in my 5.3.

[@Quinn_Fenwick]

Fr it’s hella good for no reason

[@awesom6588]

really need to do this series again without cas, especially in that last round it just became a CAS fight. lot of smaller trees are going to struggle with that espeically against america since every american ground player is really just a cas main

[@carrott36]

Yeah, wonder how much better those Churchills would’ve done if they were allowed to get to the battle before CAS arrived like in a real match…

[@turgeon1235]

@@carrott36not that much ngl. But yeah he could do Ground only and air only at one point

[@johnnytrigger300]

And Italy.

[@Mightybunyip]

“Is the jumbo tier 3” yeah and its an absolute menace in the right hands

[@wallachia4797]

Any hands. It's piss easy to play.

[@gavinlightfoot5521]

​@@wallachia4797thats debatable, I hate playing it but the 76mm version is great.

[@Gary_The_Metro]

the british choosing the churchill in the 2nd round is a very poor choice tbh. It works in normal matches because it usually faces things in the 4.0 BR range. but it's not going to be effective against anything in the 5.0+ BR range. Those 76 shermans will eat it for breakfast, whereas the churchill will struggle even with a normal sherman, let alone a jumbo. All in all the british lineup in that BR range is simply not good at brawling whereas the US is never better at brawling. If they had the centurion mk 1 and/or mk 2 they would've probably done a lot better however.

[@vitheragingappleiv7855]

Literally, the challengers and comets wouldn't have been the ultimate choice and never bring bombers unless it's Lancaster. Tho, the British team weren't smart on dealing with the jumbos

[@InfernoVolatil]

challenger, comets and avenger.

not really the comet has excellent penn and speed . they got molly whopped just trying to get into town. and the britts have good aircraft.

[@iftiflo2039]

Without any exaggeration this format is the best War Thunder content.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thank you!

[@thewhitehousevietsubarchiv2625]

US tank (M3 Stuart) really helped the Brits a lot in the first round, lol

[@janinetimmerman3185]

Yes it’s not fun

[@pyrothedragon1282]

American bias has its downsides lol. Just so I don't get ripped on I'm kidding (sorta)

[@lowtier]

us tanks in general help the grind of the british alot (some can even say they are the best """british tanks""")

[@joecal97]

Straight lies tbh the Stuarts are no better than the other Tanks at their BR in the British tree. The Sherman is a solid 3.7 but it's not better than the Cromwell's etc just a good alternative. The Firefly is British anyway, regardless of the hull it is on. Britain really doesn't get that much American equipment for ground (and almost all the US planes it gets are premiums and are just better for CAS than fighters)

[@thewhitehousevietsubarchiv2625]

@@joecal97 cope harder

[@Last_Baguette0001]

I knew I should've joined the discord bro, I'm a British Main

[@Sky_EggYT]

“Shell shattered”

[@Last_Baguette0001]

@@Sky_EggYT Don't remind me of that pain 😭

[@calonhowells08]

"we got aircraft in the air" well where else would they be lol

[@Alba_Longa]

Well some of them landed and was capturing point, or was trying to.

[@pharthasa]

In the water, duhhh

[@UnitedStaes_OfAmerica]

No the American aircraft were in the gun store and the British planes were in the tea shop

[@mendercrown4562]

Tbh this was an obvious win for the USA, as a uk main our tech tree is absolutely abysmal, and gajin genuinely has something against us becuase they make every single one of our vehichles complete dogshit, it’s really depressing

[@latch9781]

Especially when you compare by rank. US has 4-5 5.7 br in rank 3 as opposed to Britain's 2 5.3s, neither of which are at all optimal. That's not even mentioning APHE nukes vs APDS

[@IAmTheStig32]

They just hate us because we're paying and supplying the Ukrainians to dab on them so hard

[@mr_guard12]

Sadly this is a very Common result if you have Britain go against any nation

[@BLKninjas]

"Can I say the n-word?" "No." Golden

[@hawkstable8889]

Britain is really just fucked against Jumbos since the APDS nerf. It either shatters or just doesn't penetrate the UFP even at perfect angles sometimes. And hitting the weakspots doesn't do much when you only have solid shot to work with.

[@mystix6951]

12:01 bro fell apart like legos💀

[@SilverScarletSpider]

please make a playlist of all your national battles

[@AotBrown]

At least it's not 1:33 AM🙂

[@AotBrown]

And I have to say that I have been waiting for Great Britain to face USA

[@Torbert_]

will the FFA we did yesterday become a video?

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

If I go through the replay files and see people followed the rules and it’ll make for a good video, I’ll know then.

[@iiwidowla99lambo65]

never underestimate with American armor

[@latch9781]

More like never expect British shot to work

[@StephenBird-t2j]

I assume that the British tanks lost in rank 3 is because of solid shot the US had APHE so it did more post pen damage

[@Mr.Polska404]

USA strong 💪🏻 🇺🇸

[@AWholeChickenNugget]

Russia stronger 💪🗿🇷🇺

[@Mr.Polska404]

@@AWholeChickenNugget Because bias

[@Sailingspeedat9kn]

God save our gracious King! Long live our noble King! God save the King! Send him victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us, God save the King. Thy choicest gifts in store On him be pleased to pour, Long may he reign. May he defend our laws, And ever give us cause, To sing with heart and voice, God save the King.

[@Sailingspeedat9kn]

When Britain first, at Heaven's command Arose from out the azure main; This was the charter of the land, And guardian angels sang this strain: "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves: "Britons never will be slaves." 2 The nations, not so blest as thee, Must, in their turns, to tyrants fall; While thou shalt flourish great and free, The dread and envy of them all. "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves: "Britons never will be slaves." 3 Still more majestic shalt thou rise, More dreadful, from each foreign stroke; As the loud blast that tears the skies, Serves but to root thy native oak. "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves: "Britons never will be slaves." 4 Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame: All their attempts to bend thee down, Will but arouse thy generous flame; But work their woe, and thy renown. "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves: "Britons never will be slaves." 5 To thee belongs the rural reign; Thy cities shall with commerce shine: All thine shall be the subject main, And every shore it circles thine. "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves: "Britons never will be slaves." 6 The Muses, still with freedom found, Shall to thy happy coast repair; Blest Isle! With matchless beauty crown'd, And manly hearts to guard the fair. "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves: "Britons never will be slaves."

[@andreslarios1206]

I think British will win.

[@AWholeChickenNugget]

Who asked bro

[@Isaacthegamer123]

Britannia will win

[@Isaacthegamer123]

@@AWholeChickenNugget who asked for your opinion

[@mirekspodmonopolowego9016]

@@AWholeChickenNugget nobody had to, it's a comment section on yt

[@sjh6928]

​@@AWholeChickenNuggetliterally Muffin in the 8th second of the video

[@MilkTruck1210]

you know they are desperate when they land planes on the B point

[@Turner83]

Surprised Britain wasn't mostly comets and challengers for rank 3

[@Phr0000g]

Having played in that game, it really was the planes that made UK lose

[@vitheragingappleiv7855]

Tho, it would've been a different story if it was in Rank VII

[@SoloBeing1]

Lets be honest if warthunder aphe was realistic the 2nd match would have been very different

[@latch9781]

Or even if it had been a BR limit rather than rank

[@trigerhappy903]

you should definetly do one of these videos with youtubers only so we get good quality video and experienced players

[@turgeon1235]

Nah some KZbinrs have a bit of an ego and a bunch only play war thunder due to their channel being about WT.

[@imaflyingturkey]

I had fun flanking all those m22s kinda forgot to load up some HE so when i ran into a M8GMC is couldt do much

[@turgeon1235]

Oh hey Turkey.

[@swisspotato927]

Is it just me or did I see an R3 T20 around like 16:00 covered in bushes, huh very British I see 😂😂

[@latch9781]

It was an Italian exchange to Sandhurst 👀

[@Cyanfox3006]

While im Germany/Sweden/Sweden main, i have great respect for the spits and near to none for the us planed. Spitfire pilots are built different, they are elite out of elite, always fun to dogfight against!

[@sirbirdygaming]

The only reason we spitfire pilots are built different is because of our turn rate, trust me without those we would be just bombers with no bombs

[@Cyanfox3006]

@@sirbirdygaming Ye, lol And engines... SPACEFIRE

[@3dwrecker_4660]

Leo 1 vs leo 2

[@ScarFace3631]

I’d like to see some sim battles

[@dennislemasters4339]

during world war 2 britain made heavy use of american tanks, such as the stuarts, the grant (a modified m3 lee, the sherman including the firefly a sherman with the 17 pdr

[@dreadlock7604]

Jumbo isn't so hard to kill I've killed so many as a USSR main and if u can't pen the upper front plate then shoot the lower plate or the turret cheeks, turret ring, machine gun port and some times the sides of the upper front plates depending on the angle that is, Is-1 can easily punch through a Jumbo if the person is experienced enough

[@SanyaTheNightWitch69420]

seems recording is a you issue, works fine for me.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

The problem is the spectator file I get when hosting the events and not having the actually player replay file. Unfortunately I ask for them but very few people don’t send them. The replay files from the players view works a lot better to get the actual player perspective but to get that I need all of them from everyone.

[@mystlcgreatness]

I think America has this in the bag easily

[@mangolikestrains]

Yeah cause our tanks just have ap

[@Janno32_]

Could you make leopard 2 vs strv 122?

[@calonhowells08]

arent they the same?

[@Janno32_]

@@calonhowells08 the strv 122 has better protection but the leopard has the better gun

[@Vollification]

Worst atrocity since the Boston Tea Massacre.

[@Tigerpanzer6666]

this is almost the idea i had almost 0:18

[@andrejcs]

2:00 bro got that lithuanian accent

[@russell33313]

Being able to spawn cas really ruins the fun of this,

[@MrJohnnyseven]

How about doing this vid in simulator mode

[@jura.c0729]

You should use recorded POVs of players, it would look much better and identic

[@ryleeculla5570]

Will you do a battle for Caen video or something

[@lipnnjsrghnnhjrykgbfh574]

usa vs britan Germany has entered the chat

[@jakubhablak6242]

Its pain to see guys shotting planes just like that:) . They dont know that they have to shoot with reserve. Aniways, interesting video

[@TurkeyKirky07]

I was in this!!

[@largelobster6996]

Nice m22 Play dude xD

[@TurkeyKirky07]

@@largelobster6996 I was an m4a2 76

[@mblott7012]

hey can you do a russain vs german verson of this love the content man!!

[@flareamv5503]

USA won second match because jumbo is made very unrealistically in war thunder and since USA has buffed armor, engines, guns etc in war thunder its really unfair

[@latch9781]

Plus it's rank 3 5.7br, while the British have 5.3 at best with it being not too great

[@Doggo448]

I was the guy who died immediately on the American side for the second round 😭 my translation got shot and I was stuck on the bridge :(

[@ProfessorBooty69]

1:18 Yeah classic UK vs US. Stuart killing a Locust.

[@YR-gz2ip]

idea: do nation vs nation in naval battles, i think it could be very interesting to see a massive naval warfare. great video!

[@chickenpurple6704]

They'd have a very tough time finding people who had 6.0 navy

[@dejv7317]

Sweden vs Israel when?

[@stuthhamster]

Solid shot is pain ngl

[@zohaibtariq7351]

My vote before watching the video American armor is useless against British APDS so if Americans take only light vehicles and flank the British they'll win M18 will be the tank of match

[@latch9781]

Maybe if APDS wasn't fucked

[@johnnytrigger300]

Proud to be the only cromwell rp3

[@appstarator2335]

13:54 is it R3?

[@Araexius]

Honestly, i expected the british to win. I'm not from britain, but whatever

[@latch9781]

Yeah, Gaijin doesn't like Britain

[@molleboy9061]

Army on the Sherman’s will come in clutch so usa

[@w.dgaming1060]

No offense but the top tire jet pilot are not doing a good job at flying at all

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

You should join if you’re better. All are welcome if they’re up for the challenge.

[@jarryan2136]

kids who dont know mechanics trying to belly land a cap

[@britishman1922]

How did I miss it

[@Yayaloy9]

for this match it should have been first round - mid tier second round - early - mid cold war third round - mbt Would be very interesting to see centurion and Chieftans up against pattons. Probably a stomp

[@Rusty-m4q]

How do I join your discord it says my account is to new

[@tietieno4890]

Just wait a bit its a way to prevent bots from joining

[@Justme0107]

SPITFIRE

[@ripabcdefttv2843]

italy against france?

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Recently did it:)

[@tothmatyas2177]

Why were there non british vehicles in rank 6 battle on British side ?

[@latch9781]

We colonised a few places

[@jannisKannes]

Hi

[@bkd97]

british tanks best armour in the world so much so the Americans use our armour in game the worst and out matched by America

[@oddo6926]

I'm an American bas so if you want to do rank 7 again I'll participate 😊

[@tyknight2428]

Why was people playing Italy

[@samuelmichalenko7520]

4:18

[@chickenpurple6704]

Rank 1 probably could've been won by the US if they weren't using the dogshit m22 and instead used something with a stabilizer.

[@latch9781]

What has a stabiliser at rank 1?

[@chickenpurple6704]

@@latch9781 every single tier 1 American tank except the m22

[@m26pershing98]

RAHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅

[@V1CT0R_2]

Why did the british side have German vehicles on their team???

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I did see some but immediately tried kicking all players that I saw in german vehicles and will be banning people from my events that do that in the future.

[@V1CT0R_2]

@@ThunderWithMuffin fair enough

[@Tigerpanzer6666]

technically any tank can kill any tank unless its a m3 (the small fence tank or was it british) vs a ratte or any tank vs ratte

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

W usa

[@vonknorring09]

sweden russia?

[@l_28t37]

rahhhh

[@Andrew-qo2jg]

If it was Great Britain vs USSR, USSR would win due to it's low tanks having decent armor like the T-60.

[@kimjanek646]

That has two crew and dies when shot in the turret? 🤔 Won’t be able to pen a Stuart and even Cruisers with the extra armor. Britain easily wins with their stabilized cannons and other advantages.

[@Andrew-qo2jg]

@@kimjanek646 Trust me, USSR has a high chance on winning for obvious reasons.

[@strayjames8751]

@@Andrew-qo2jg USSR gets good tanks but mate you're coping the Brits get some of the best low tier stuff in the game

[@tyrbaan7295]

@@strayjames8751 honestly? Could go either way. A quick push or flank from some BT's could do some serious damage. It would be an interesting fight.

[@kimjanek646]

@@tyrbaan7295 You know that Cruiser tanks are pretty much as fast and don’t have crappy stats for their turrets. A .50cal will take out 80% of Russian Tier 1 so you can do the same and more damage in the Staghound.

[@VVIIX123]

I think need a rule that only 14+ can play in video. Becouse yonger are annoying Just my opinion

[@BugattiONE666]

Imagine needing to let britain win to make it look like a competition xD

[@lcm1220]

on god

[@imaflyingturkey]

we did win fair and square round one these arent scripted

[@RandomMan-db5yj]

The Brits used American tanks to their own advantage

[@vicentefradinho8162]

USA USA USA

[@mechan5153]

RAHHHHH BABYYYY USA USA USA USA 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅🦅 13:0 THEY STILL DONT GET THEIR COLONIES BACK BABY RAHHHHHH

[@kittylove0921]

USA! USA! USA! 😁

[@angryeliteultragree6329]

There should be rules agains countries if they are fighting each other, where they cannot use the enemy countries tanks.

[@turgeon1235]

This is just to compare tech tree. Not really to compare tanks That’s another video that does that

[@Camander930]

USA USA USA

[@spencerwildman1945]

I wonder if the rank 1 outcome would have been different if the British side wasn't allowed to use American vehicles. Seemed like a lot on the British side were using Stuarts

[@ManySighs]

what was with the r3 running around?

That should have been anybody's game in the first round. second round was a total screw ball screw up from the brits. They should have had a gang of comets, they have the penn and the speed. and more air support. save the Churchills for mid/late game. after 8.0 the Americans really have a better advantage. just my thoughts and btw those playbacks are awful.

[@WarmPillow-hs6kj]

WW2 Germany vs WW2 Japan.

[@zohaibtariq7351]

14:54 and yet they are getting killed by an MBT

[@berkanshiner6396]

George Washington would be proud.

[@InFamoose-WT]

why was there a gepard at 15 minutes lol

[@boomerix]

15:37 DollarPlays fan spottet

[@bluedogproy2016]

How come in the last battle I saw a puma and a leopard ☠️

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

They were kicked and fortunately didn’t do anything