1962 Mickey Thompson/Hayden Proffitt Super Duty 421 AFX Tempest Lemans

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Muscle Car Campy

Muscle Car Campy

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@lorimcquinn3966
@lorimcquinn3966 3 ай бұрын
I read the original article back in the day and it sparked some interest. That said, I always wanted to build a 62 Nova with a 409 engine as a A/FX'er
@BillCurry-o6h
@BillCurry-o6h 9 ай бұрын
Back in 1966 or 1967 I don’t remember the exact year. I had a 63 Tempest with a 389 four barrel with long tube headers and 3 speed on the floor. What an animal it was I was still in high school and used to ride around quite often with the headers open and cheater slicks. If you know anything about that specific year it had a 1 inch thick drive shaft inside of a closed case. I can’t tell you how many drive shafts I went through but it was quite a few! lol 😁
@andyfoley6906
@andyfoley6906 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Campy! Amazing how they shoehorned that 421 under the hood! And yes that was when men were men and built stuff without any help from a computer.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
No bigger physically than a 326. Fits pretty nice. The Buick 215 V8 was a factory option.
@NoPrivateProperty
@NoPrivateProperty 2 жыл бұрын
that is why the best they could do is run 12s........slow
@joshbrekke6374
@joshbrekke6374 Жыл бұрын
@@NoPrivateProperty not with the shitty tires they had back then. It’s like low 10,s hi 9,s today, if not faster. One year later Stan’s 63 Lemans SD 421 ran mid 11,s at 121 mph on still shitty rear tires. Not slow by a long shot! Especially if you understand tires and history
@NoPrivateProperty
@NoPrivateProperty Жыл бұрын
@@joshbrekke6374 they used to test cars with slicks for magazines. not much difference. not fast by todays standards
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
and grandma could daily it, 4 spd with manual everything still drive like an ace Todays kids couldnt drive it around the block without crying lol
@christopherhughes8402
@christopherhughes8402 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all us guys comin up after you. This is the kind of knowledge that use to be hand to hand and now thanks to a lot of dedicated fans its getting passed on down the years. Thanks to all the guys who share that horded knowledge with the future generations. You insure this knowledge isn't lost!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I am flattered.
@barrycuda3769
@barrycuda3769 Жыл бұрын
Ensure , 👍
@ronmerkle3696
@ronmerkle3696 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! My dad worked for a pontiac dealer in the 60's,and I used to go with him on Saturdays and see all the new cars. We would test drive new gto 's and he would slam the gears! Guess that's why I've owned my firebird for 47 years.
@b.s.adventures9421
@b.s.adventures9421 2 жыл бұрын
I love 62 tempests. Such a unknown stylish car. I’ve wanted to build a hot rod version for years. I was unaware of MT’s build. That thing is sweet.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@frederickwise5238
@frederickwise5238 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVED my 62 Lemans Convertible White w/Blk top, Red interior. Dealer only had the 4 cyl tho. However when I got done with it, I stomped F85 V8s. Amazing what a simple bore, balance and Cold Air intake could do. (All I was able to afford in my youth. LOL) 3 cars I loved. My 47Ford vert w/hot Merc eng, my Lemans and then my 68 Formula S 340. I added CAI to the latter 2 after reading Smokey's advice. It knocked 1.5 sec off the 340's time.
@AtZero138
@AtZero138 6 ай бұрын
My Uncle Chris RIP, as a kid, Pontiac was all I seen,, 70 Formula, three 62 Tempest, became two.. the scarp build, was built for me, i was 12, my Mom said No!, Uncle Chris kept it for me four more years, My Mom said No, every time it was brought up, When I bring it up now etc. She says sorry... RIP Uncle Chris... I will always want One.. Love you Mom.. Cheers from Southern California 🇺🇸
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 6 ай бұрын
Here’s to your Uncle Chris.
@MikeBrown-ii3pt
@MikeBrown-ii3pt 2 жыл бұрын
Mickey T was an innovator and was taken from us way too soon! I don't know if the criminal(s) that murdered Mickey and Trudy were ever caught but, if they're not already there, there's a very hot place waiting for them!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
The man who ordered the hit eventually charged and convicted. Not sure if the actual killers were ever arrested.
@CopperAboriginies
@CopperAboriginies 2 жыл бұрын
Who stood to benefit from those murders in those years o Thompson’s death….
@johna.4334
@johna.4334 2 жыл бұрын
The town of Bradbury, CA has never been the same since.
@michael69040
@michael69040 2 жыл бұрын
@@CopperAboriginies From what I've read it was simply a nasty feud that engendered the lust for an extreme take down. It is chilling to think that such hatred can lead to murder but even more horrific to know there are guys who without any rancor towards a fellow and his wife can kill them for a price.
@maxsdad538
@maxsdad538 2 жыл бұрын
Muscle car campy is pretty much correct. Thompson's former business partner, Michael Frank Goodwin, was convicted of 2 counts of murder and sentenced to 2 consecutive life terms in prison. The actual shooters have never been located.
@lsimpson50
@lsimpson50 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Beautiful car. My first car: a 1962 Tempest LeMans, black exterior/red interior, three-speed floor shift, 195 cu. in. four cylinder. Bought it in 1966. No six cylinder offered in 1962, but they did offer a little sold 215 cu. in. aluminum V-8. The Trophy 195 engine mine had was half of a 389, literally. Mine came well used, with a ton of rust, but on the other hand, it was my first car.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, that was the Buick V8, but no one complained it was not a Pontiac mill.
@waynebuzzell2483
@waynebuzzell2483 2 жыл бұрын
It only ran on 4? Number 4? 😎
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 - Only 1% of Tempests bought with the V8 though... and they admitted it was a (1950) Buick engine... In 1970's window monroney showed you paid extra for an Olds Rocket V8... but later your mechanic told you that you had a cheap Chevy V8 !!!
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds of my 1962 Olds Jetfire turbo V8 from back in the day, converted from the crappy automatic to a 3 speed T85 manual with Sparkomatic shifter with wooden/steel/wooden shift sandwich knob... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKvaZopnp7eApck
@andrewhigdon8346
@andrewhigdon8346 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I once found a particularly small aluminum intake manifold with a four barrel plenum and eight ports. It was on a relative’s property where some of our family would store/leave to rot some of our cherished cars,boats, whatever. This intake was in a shed, and from a distance I could see it had four ports on the one side visible. As a teenager with a 2 barrel 302 Torino, I briefly thought it might fit my engine. When I picked it up I realized it was maybe 2/3 the size of a 302 intake. Researched a bit, and my dad said there had been a very small GM aluminum V8, saying it was either a Pontiac or Oldsmobile. In that same pile I picked up a single Shelby valve cover, with the letters raised, with crinkle finish background and Shelby was polished, and it had the same kind of build that the old M/T valve covers had, aluminum and solid, which sealed the gaskets better than the crappy factory stamped steel versions. Nowadays, very valuable and rare pieces. I’m pretty sure this was for a 351 Cleveland, as the size and pattern didn’t match the 302/351 Windsors, but it wasn’t the FE one either. It could have been for the 429 but didn’t have that distinct profile needed to clear the valve train in those big block Fords.
@bradgrissom5738
@bradgrissom5738 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an awesome piece of history!
@63grandsport11
@63grandsport11 2 жыл бұрын
Its a replica of the original.
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 2 жыл бұрын
nice, especially with the accurate 421 SD. I don’t remember Hayden Profit in the Thompson Tempest but definitely in the bubble top ‘62 409.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Hayden switched to Chevrolet after this. Lloyd Cox drove it at the US Nationals.
@maxsdad538
@maxsdad538 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't touched one in decades, but I can still remember the feel AND the smell of those old decals. Back in the 60's, we Southern California kids collected them like others collected baseball cards. I'm STILL waiting for my Duntov cam decal from old Zora (I wrote him personally)... they must gave gotten lost in the mail. 😁😁
@chrisjeffries2322
@chrisjeffries2322 2 жыл бұрын
I see Mike Salta's license plate frame on the front end of the car. Now that brings back memories from the long-gone Long Beach California Pontiac dealer.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Classic touch. I believe that was where the real car came from.
@jamesweaver1738
@jamesweaver1738 2 жыл бұрын
I remember these cars. I'm 71. These were the precursors to funny cars. To 😎 cool. Thanks for the memories 😊
@buzzwaldron6195
@buzzwaldron6195 5 ай бұрын
- I'm 76, back then my daily driver was the '62 Jetfire: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKvaZopnp7eApck
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
Used to have a neighbor in Moorpark Ca that named his dog Proffit Was many yrs before I found out why. Love those 421
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 Жыл бұрын
Classic.
@davidwood1923
@davidwood1923 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Sharing... Pretty Amazing Piece of History
@bigken9253
@bigken9253 Жыл бұрын
Seeing this car reminds me of the 62 Tempest Lemans I owned while working at the Exxon Station, I boought it for very little money, it had a 326 cu in engine with a 2 barrel carb, the 3 speed transaxle from the 4cyl. engine. I tuned the engine up plugs, points, condenser, dist.cap, plug wires, all settings. rebuild starded,battery,shocks, tires . Cleaned interior up, buff rust off the body and waxed. I had fun driving the Lemans but at 20 to 25 mph you had better be in 3rd gear or damage the trans axle. Had the car for a couple of years , someone offerded me too much $$$, sold the car but I missed the little Pontiac.
@mitchisms
@mitchisms Жыл бұрын
What a car!! Great video. Thanks guys.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 Жыл бұрын
It is our pleasure.
@rogerberg1299
@rogerberg1299 Жыл бұрын
Now thats a muscle car . I miss them days . Out loud. 😀
@literallyshaking8019
@literallyshaking8019 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful beast.
@randyadair7527
@randyadair7527 2 жыл бұрын
Man…hearing this car reminds me of both my big block 65 Coronets!
@ozzymd1
@ozzymd1 2 жыл бұрын
Super duty old school Pontiac ! WOW , I remember as a kid in upstate N. Y. seeing these cars on Dover Drag strip in Pawling N. Y.
@thehighdeath5562
@thehighdeath5562 2 жыл бұрын
Jim, he got you pinned back pretty good mid-sentence at 9:21. I like how you rolled with and completed your thought after that pull. 😎😎
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
I try to maintain my professionalism, even with sweat in my eye. LOL.
@hotchihuahua1546
@hotchihuahua1546 2 жыл бұрын
This is what we considered quick back in the day . From the slot cars we modified by rewinding electric motors to hot rodding gas engine cars we have come full circle . Old hot rod guys like us have seen and experienced a lot during this time . It’s sad in a way as many young people can’t relate to what we experienced.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Technology has come a long way in 60 years. Imagine using a 60-year-old TV to watch Muscle Car Campy videos. The horror!
@rony.3836
@rony.3836 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget taping hidden coins over the drive wheels on slot cars.
@The_Performance_Laboratory
@The_Performance_Laboratory 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely awesome car!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@misplaced80sguy59
@misplaced80sguy59 Жыл бұрын
Pontiac’s L-88. Rougher - than -sandpaper idle, ferocious disposition.
@bartorlans5390
@bartorlans5390 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, and great to see my two old friends together again.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like the old CSK days, except we’re more mature now. Sort of.
@donkeefe4679
@donkeefe4679 2 жыл бұрын
We miss you buddy! Hope our paths cross soon...
@thecollectoronthecorner7061
@thecollectoronthecorner7061 Жыл бұрын
We have several pontiacs in our collection. One is a 63 tempest with the 4 cyl and 3 speed transaxle.
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 2 жыл бұрын
Another great find and video. Keep em coming! 'Specially the tin Indians. My favorites.:)
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, we have plenty of those to shoot-and not just the usual suspects, either.
@christopherhughes8402
@christopherhughes8402 2 жыл бұрын
When men were men and sheep were scared...Just kidding guys! What a great find! This is what makes the internet great, rare cool cars most of us would never have a chance to see or hear, brought to us by other guys who love cars. Thank you for doing what you do, its immensely appreciated!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
The pleasure is all mine, believe me!
@phillipthethird42
@phillipthethird42 2 жыл бұрын
I like the car and the story even more.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I appreciate your support.
@williamzoom
@williamzoom 2 жыл бұрын
Nice little GLHS Omni sitting in the garage!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Right? Thanks for watching.
@AliceEmpireBreadfan
@AliceEmpireBreadfan 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see Don here. Great contributor to the Poncho enthusiasts
@matrox
@matrox 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle had a 63' Tempest with a 3 speed manual. Probably a 326. This was in 65' after he graduated HS. I remember he kept showing me a GTO emblem on the grill. I think someone put it there before he bought it. I was only about 9 at the time.☝😏
@farmhand6524
@farmhand6524 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is choice in every way... Thanks for the review and upload💯
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@farmhand6524
@farmhand6524 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 👍 💪
@davidincognito7285
@davidincognito7285 6 ай бұрын
Poncho's are in a league of their own. They've always stood apart.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 6 ай бұрын
The GM racing ban hurt Pontiac, but without it the GTO never happens.
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe how good the 421 S.D. runs with it's puny heads, but it surely does!!!
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын
Guess you never saw the 421 S.D. on a dyno: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX_KZmlvlsyqn7c
@jackreacher.
@jackreacher. 2 жыл бұрын
puny heads - ha ha ha ha ha ha In 1962 the thought of puny heads did not exist. There is a sweet spot where HP and torque converse. Where is that sweet spot?
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackreacher. - As seen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX_KZmlvlsyqn7c
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackreacher. I disagree. Have you seen the flow numbers on the 62-64 Max Wedge engines? In 62 the 413 Max Wedge got 25% larger ports than the regular B/RB Mopar engines and larger valves to boot. To this day the highest performance aftermarket Mopar wedge heads still use the raised Max Wedge port configuration. The original heads flowed with numbers similar to the modern lower performance Gen 3 Small Block Chevy stuff (LS motors for those with less knowledge). Compare that to the early Super Duty stuff that was only able to flow about the same as regular street Pontiac heads by the late 60's like #62s, #48s, #12s or #13 400 heads. Even the later Pontiac 455 S.D. heads flowed slightly less than the Max Wedge heads. And I agree that torque makes a great street engine and Pontiacs excel at making usable torque, but we're talking race only and there, HP wins.
@jackreacher.
@jackreacher. 2 жыл бұрын
@@1967davethewave Using two 625 CFM Carters, I count a total of 1250 CFM for the 421 Super duty. However, the 62 max wedge was produced with two 600 CFM Carters which total 1200 cfm. This is not a considerable difference. It seams to me that our argument boils down to terms. You find pride in "Maximum" and mine is found in "super duty". You dig Mopar and I go with the Indian. However, 1962 is the main constraint with the Pontiac winning the national championships. I found the word "puny" to simply identify your overall bias. Win one and "puny" got lucky. Win two and "puny" lacks logical support. Hence, puny ha ha. Puny heads on a national champion is simply brand bashing.
@WilmerCook
@WilmerCook Жыл бұрын
I had a 63 Tempest 4cyl it was surprising fast keep up it traffic good. The transmission slowed it down. Slush Box!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 Жыл бұрын
This car has no such a problem.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 Long as he doesnt start off in 3rd caught that Awesome car!
@dynamicfirearmsinc432
@dynamicfirearmsinc432 2 жыл бұрын
Cool car, funny I just saw a documentary on John DeLorean on Netflix on Saturday. Anyway great find well done.
@joenock3466
@joenock3466 Жыл бұрын
holy shit what a ride!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 Жыл бұрын
Baaaaaad to the bone.
@bobbrinkerhoff3592
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 2 жыл бұрын
Now for the rest of the story , on page 26 of a book by Steve Magnante called " How to build altered wheelbase cars " you will find a picture of the Mickey Thompson car taken at Irwindale in 1966 as raced by Bob Porter . The car , like so many other race cars at the time , had been modified with a straight front axle , Mopar Max Wedge hood scoop , and had the rear end moved forward approximately ten inches . Porter was using the ex Doyle Gammel '32 Ford 3 window to flat tow the '62 back and forth to the track .Now you know what happened to the original car .
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
But where is it now? Big mystery.
@bobbrinkerhoff3592
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 the NHRA outlawed the altered wheelbase cars by 1968 , which left bracket racing or street racing , considering how crudely the AWB cars were built I suspect it was probably crushed long ago . The way guys were hunting for the old race cars back in the '80s and '90s you'd think someone would have a clue of it's whereabouts or status . That is why I mentioned the photo in the book, hoping it would jog somebody's memory .
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 I appreciate that. You would think it would have turned up, but perhaps it was wrecked and parted out. All speculation on my part.
@Mercmad
@Mercmad 2 жыл бұрын
Mickey Thompson was "Mr Pontiac" .His efforts on the salt were a study in Engineering genius.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct.
@randym.7238
@randym.7238 2 жыл бұрын
When I was dating my now Wife Of 50 years, I had one if these but it was the Wagon model with a v6 3 on the Tree. I wish I had kept that Car. We had loads of fun in that Car. Good times.
@traderjack6151
@traderjack6151 2 жыл бұрын
In 62 Buick received car of the year from Motor Trend Magazine thanks to ( Buick ) Engineering . In 62 Mickey Thompson’s Buick special with a Buick 215 ( Fireball ) Aluminum V8 went 92 laps at Indy before transmission failed , Dan Gurney was Driver
@charlescole1467
@charlescole1467 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! My father's 69 Firebird 400 was sold new at Salta Pontiac in Long Beach. I know I've seen pics of the original car with the same plate frame, and I was wondering if the owner knows anything about the dealership? After watching the video I found a Nascar race car they sponsored and it makes me wonder if they were a high performance dealer in the area.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
They sponsored Mickey Thompson’s racing efforts. Don’t know much about them other than that.
@timdryden3778
@timdryden3778 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd 2 жыл бұрын
Those three speeds sure do pull nice in second gear - it's just that jump to third...
@garyboden5220
@garyboden5220 2 жыл бұрын
did he shift into passing gear at 9:00?
@Airsally
@Airsally Жыл бұрын
He took off in 3rd then shifted to 2nd......come on, guess he's not much of a stick driver. I guess torque of the 421 did mind that rpm drop to 3rd.
@ludedude5228
@ludedude5228 2 жыл бұрын
My friend way back when pulled his 455 HO out of his 1971 Trans am and and installed one of these 421's. I thought he was Nuts , Till he took me for a ride 👍 11.7 at the track , WOW street legal too "
@tommitchell8425
@tommitchell8425 2 жыл бұрын
RIP FREMONT RACEWAY
@bryanr.4947
@bryanr.4947 Жыл бұрын
From an era when men were men and sandpaper was really rough.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
AMen! At 12 they were rebuilding engines not crying about hurt feelings inside thier room. Most women were way tougher than todays beard/tat crowd.
@timr31908
@timr31908 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the 421 was the best engine GM ever had
@beaublackford3697
@beaublackford3697 Жыл бұрын
That has to be the nastiest cam. My dad put one like that in his 01 Corvette, he hated it haha Borla exhaust sounded like a F15 flying by
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
DId he regear the car too? Most dont, and lug the engines on those vettes. Dont know why its not good to do that to an engine
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 2 ай бұрын
Toward the beginning the white car with "Doug Marion" painted on it...possibly the same on who posts on some vette forum today?
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 ай бұрын
This Doug Marion was the long-time editor of Super Chevy magazine. Not sure if he posts on Corvette forums today, but it would surprise me if he did.
@chrissizemore745
@chrissizemore745 2 жыл бұрын
i like the color silvery blue lookin
@johncaballero8013
@johncaballero8013 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic muscle machine! Super fun throw back of a by gone era. I Love old cars and fossil fuel. I’m definitely voting Red! The kackling hyena is death to our American way.
@tcjohnson3437
@tcjohnson3437 Жыл бұрын
Cool as it gets.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 Жыл бұрын
Yessir.
@homegrownson
@homegrownson 2 жыл бұрын
The best 421 was the 64 Grand Prix, my dad owned the Black one with White Interior
@danielkeene1623
@danielkeene1623 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up a teenage car freak(My first car was a 34 ford Crestline 4dr with the Y Block 239 at age 14), Talking about the 3 spd, standard Transmission. Everyone I knew who had a 3spd put a floor shifter in it. Including me. So that odd shift pattern wasn't odd to us at all.
@danielkeene1623
@danielkeene1623 2 жыл бұрын
I meant 54 Ford...........
@traderjack6151
@traderjack6151 2 жыл бұрын
GM designed this car for old men and look who’s still driving these cars. Some kids never grow old ! Congratulations on this Beauty!
@JamesBond-hu9rg
@JamesBond-hu9rg 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few ‘62 s and a 4 spd !
@frederickwise5238
@frederickwise5238 2 жыл бұрын
In 1962 For the Tempest/lemans, they offered a 4cyl (1/2 of the 389 in several HP configurations) AND a 215V8 like the Olds F85. Never offered a 6 CYL!!!! Buick Skylark did but not Pontiac!!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. I was wrong.
@frederickwise5238
@frederickwise5238 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 Only because my family lived Bunkey Knudsen's cars for so long. LOL And I owned an extra ordinary 62 Lemans vert myself. It wasnt "normal" when I came to "remanufacture" it. There were ll kinds of "parts" that werent in the Pontiac parts catalog. Didnt have the std dist., pistons were wrong for that HP version,, the hotter cam wasnt in the catalog, and it had a limited slip 2spd trans axle. While I had the engine in rebuild mode I had another Tempest 4 eng because I still had to get to/from work.. IT was a dog compared to mine. At one point it was suggested that my 62 was "like the special 4 Pontiac sent to the NY auto show" which might explain why the dealer was upset with the salesman and tried his best to buy it back.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@frederickwise5238 I appreciate you watching.
@frederickwise5238
@frederickwise5238 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 In my youth I kinda lived cars. At 87, all I can do now is watch from my computer room. LOL
@jamessharp9790
@jamessharp9790 2 жыл бұрын
Cool factor : infinity!
@mikepotter6426
@mikepotter6426 2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that car just about whupped those guys
@mrmichael555
@mrmichael555 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if he was starting out in second gear. Then at 8:58, he found first!
@Airsally
@Airsally Жыл бұрын
Think he took off in 3rd ....then shifted to second. 3 speeds had a pretty low first gear . With 4.30 :1 rear gears and the big 421 it just chugged away. When he shifted to 2nd the ram's went up 😅
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
@@Airsally Yep,3rd
@clintonsmith9931
@clintonsmith9931 2 жыл бұрын
Brother bought a brand new 63 Tempest A 4 cyl four bll 4 speed The trans was in back like modern Corvettes Bout all I can remember about it He shortly traded for a new big ole Bonneville with a V8 Drew more girls that way
@wildestcowboy2668
@wildestcowboy2668 Жыл бұрын
Besides the MIGHTY MOPAR BIG BLOCK HEMI these cars were fast!
@madmanmechanic8847
@madmanmechanic8847 2 жыл бұрын
The swiss cheese Catalina with the Super Duty 421s were turning 11s back in the day . They said they were still tearing up the drag strips way into the late 60s . The very sad thing and it makes me want to cry is 63 was the last year of the Super Duty . I dont know why the program was canceled can you imagine going down to your dealer in 64 and ordering a brand new GTO with a 421 Superduty ? It would to tore some ass up on the streets nothing would of touched it They could of opened a race program with GTO'S with aluminum front clip aluminum bumpers and a cross drilled frame battery located to the trunk with a set of 4:56 there would of been very few cars touch it So close but all closed down in a few months makes a person sad 🤥
@mitchburk5112
@mitchburk5112 2 жыл бұрын
GM officially pulled out of factory support of racing in 1963 both drag and Nascar. Any one competing in a GM car after that was on their own dime. Also, they had a mandate that you couldn't put more than 400 cubic inch in the A body, GTO 389, Chevelle 396, Skylark 400, Olds 442 400. They dropped that requirement in 1970.
@madmanmechanic8847
@madmanmechanic8847 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchburk5112 I know that the race program was dumped . I was doing a what if on my post a GTO 421 Super Duty aluminum front clip cross drilled swiss cheese frame easily into mid 10s and you imagine what one of those would of brought on the auction block now if they had survived ? So close and yet so far😕
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
@@madmanmechanic8847 THat woulda been the most badazzed early muscle ever built. THose A bodys, 4link coil rear were easy to get hooked with minor work.
@madmanmechanic8847
@madmanmechanic8847 Жыл бұрын
@@gordocarbo I am sure low 10s would of been easily attained or faster I honestly dont think anything would of touched them except maybe the 427 Ford Thunder bolt and even then would of been damn close
@paramounttechnicalconsulti5219
@paramounttechnicalconsulti5219 2 жыл бұрын
God that looks idiotically fun!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Yeah, it is.
@williambarry8015
@williambarry8015 8 ай бұрын
Id rather have that than the original. Youd be terrified to drive the original
@aliassmithandjones9453
@aliassmithandjones9453 2 жыл бұрын
beast!
@tphvictims5101
@tphvictims5101 2 жыл бұрын
STICKY THOMPSON, 😉👍🏻
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
I have been lucky enough to meet so many legends of hot rodding. I only wish I could have met Mickey. He was stolen from us.
@nealschebell7545
@nealschebell7545 Жыл бұрын
That car was a killer
@robertjackson2663
@robertjackson2663 2 жыл бұрын
Am I wrong or is the door lettering wrong ? Should not it be A/FX For A factory Experimental
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Factory Experimental was the class; A was the sub-category. It's the same as Super Stock A (SS/A or Super Stock B Automatic (SS/BA). Everyone says AFX or BFX now, but what is on the car is correct.
@jimmyfleetwood1118
@jimmyfleetwood1118 2 жыл бұрын
My childhood barber had a 421 Tempest / Lemans. He wasn't a car guy, and had no idea what it was...other than it was cheap transportation at the time.
@dwaynetempest3433
@dwaynetempest3433 2 жыл бұрын
My last name is Tempest ,I'm thinking I should own one of these somehow !
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me.
@dwaynetempest3433
@dwaynetempest3433 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 I do have a 36pontiac 3 window coupe to play with !
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@dwaynetempest3433 Very nice!
@johna.4334
@johna.4334 2 жыл бұрын
Where today is the original?
@mrc4912
@mrc4912 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 'sleeper'. That Grand Prix engine was no slouch.
@larryoilund3377
@larryoilund3377 11 ай бұрын
sweet!
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah!
@wraitheful
@wraitheful 11 ай бұрын
Love that thing - I’d burble that all over town.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 11 ай бұрын
Very high compression. The price of trade fuel could drive you to the poorhouse. LOL.
@slackthompson6984
@slackthompson6984 2 жыл бұрын
you never see 62 tempests which is a shame
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
They were considered disposable cars when new, something you drove until you stepped up to a Catalina or Ventura.
@63grandsport11
@63grandsport11 2 жыл бұрын
The radiator was dumping fluid out the vent hose at 10:20.
@christopherlucy1772
@christopherlucy1772 2 жыл бұрын
Quite sano..now a thunderbolt match race..?
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Find me a T-bolt and I’ll set it up.
@Slingudwig
@Slingudwig 2 жыл бұрын
Does she have drag shocks on her too?
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
I believe they're stock. The front springs have spacers in them to aid weight transfer. Interestingly, the rear suspension uses stock coil springs for the ladder bars. The shocks also look stock, but are relocated
@Slingudwig
@Slingudwig 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 - thanks for the info. I love this car!😊
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slingudwig Happy to reply. Thank you for tuning in.
@sorshiaemms5959
@sorshiaemms5959 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome car love early 60s cars im a Ford gut but when it comes to gm PONTIAC IS MY FAVORITE
@williamdeegan7840
@williamdeegan7840 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the original car ? Was is wrecked or taken apart ? Or is it tucked away somewhere. ? Great video. Car sounds bad ass.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
No one knows where the original car is or what happened to it. People have searched for it for decades and it seems to have vanished. Was not wrecked as far as anyone knows.
@lloydevans6422
@lloydevans6422 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@heidibradford857
@heidibradford857 2 жыл бұрын
I posted on here about the original before but mysteriously my comment disappeared like the tempest! We’ll rest assured the original has not been wrecked or parted out. My BF has owned it since 1984 and although it needs work, it is here and doing well
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@heidibradford857 Can you send me some pictures? Would love to see it now. Let me know and I will send you my email address.
@heidibradford857
@heidibradford857 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 I will send you a pic Sunday when I see it again
@dowen1511
@dowen1511 2 жыл бұрын
Your going to tear the clutch out of that thing launching it like that ! Don't pussy foot a tiger . lol😂
@M21L35
@M21L35 2 жыл бұрын
Unless memory's failed me (AGAIN!), these had that wacky transaxle "rope" drive, did they not?
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the production cars did, but Mickey Thompson & crew took it out and replaced it with a traditional set-up. All covered in the video.
@M21L35
@M21L35 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 10 - 4....
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
Never heard of that can you explain ?
@CarsandCats
@CarsandCats 2 жыл бұрын
Great car! Owner needs a little seat time to learn the gear pattern. He took off in 2nd then shifted into 1st.
@ponchoperfectionmagazine976
@ponchoperfectionmagazine976 Жыл бұрын
It was literally the first time I ever drove it.
@caribman10
@caribman10 2 жыл бұрын
Does the real one still exist?
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
People have been looking for the original for 50 years. The consensus is it’s gone.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
YEs a woman above posted her boyfriend has it still not messed with
@johna.4334
@johna.4334 2 жыл бұрын
When men were men...and the sheep were nervous!
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
Women actually had....women skills
@williamcole464
@williamcole464 2 жыл бұрын
Just think what this car could do with modern tires.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
117 mph tells the tale. Easy mid-11s.
@christopherlucy1772
@christopherlucy1772 2 жыл бұрын
Pontiac had big plans that never got off the ground..
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
True, but this was all Mickey Thompson.
@chuckeelhart1746
@chuckeelhart1746 2 жыл бұрын
The crimp connections on the regulator are wrong.
@1982joe1982
@1982joe1982 2 жыл бұрын
Super Duty power, 60s squeezebox construction, bicycle front tires and not even wearing lapbelts - what could go wrong? 🤣
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there is a lap belt-LOL.
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares? The entire intent is to get from point A to point B, as quickly as possible. Safety? Highly over-rated. It's called, the "pussification" of America. Get me back to the good ol days.
@1982joe1982
@1982joe1982 2 жыл бұрын
@@musclecarcampy9922 I saw it - installed but not in operation 😁
@pl5624
@pl5624 2 жыл бұрын
..at least the throttle didnt stick..
@MrPaulTA
@MrPaulTA 2 жыл бұрын
In 1962 there was no 6cyl option.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. My bad.
@thomasmcbride582
@thomasmcbride582 Жыл бұрын
That's a true bitchin car suparduty say no more hell ya and hold on
@dannymostarac1799
@dannymostarac1799 Жыл бұрын
421 SD
@marcchaffee7751
@marcchaffee7751 11 ай бұрын
Them carbs are dirty and plugged up .
@marcchaffee7751
@marcchaffee7751 11 ай бұрын
Also , this guy cant drive .
@paulherbert5548
@paulherbert5548 2 жыл бұрын
4.30 cogs and a three speed. Talk about sensory overload!
@MikeSowsun
@MikeSowsun 8 ай бұрын
Cool car but that shifter position is too far forward. At 3:57 you can see him have to lean forward to complete the shift. It also looks like he had to adjust the seat too far forward just so he can reach the shifter. His arms and legs seem bent instead of being in a comfortable driving position.
@musclecarcampy9922
@musclecarcampy9922 8 ай бұрын
Owner is pretty tall. That is just the way it is. Also only the second or third time he’d driven it. Just bought it and was getting used to its idiosyncrasies.
@abbekulhanek652
@abbekulhanek652 25 күн бұрын
Did he buy t from a guy named George?​@@musclecarcampy9922
@robertjackson2663
@robertjackson2663 2 жыл бұрын
He said ladder bars, wrong !
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