1965 Malibu SS (Ep 27) 4th Gear Noise in the Muncie Four Speed

[@OpenRoader]

A "smokey burnout" is part of the test drive. Awesome video series, seeing this car come together. NEXT!

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

Yup! Those tires look great but they are aged out and not really safe for continuous highway speeds so leaving some of their rubber on my road was a nice sacrifice to the great god Smokey Burnout.

[@OpenRoader]

@@FoothillPaintandFabrication Awesome!

[@douglashart5059]

That's pretty cool Mark! Glad you solved it. I'm fascinated with that transmission.

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

My first car (1967 GTO) had a Muncie 4 speed in it and I have loved them ever since. It brought back a lot of memories driving the Chevelle which makes me want to get going on my GTO even more.

[@lazyhoundracing9621]

Nice work Mark.

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

Thanks Always nice when you can fix your own screw up relatively easily.

[@justinlinville5812]

Once finished can you do a walk around of this car. Everything looks great!!

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

Absolutely.

[@uletek]

How did you pull out the bearing to change the shims after realizing it was too tight?

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

The bearing on the input shaft was not a press fit so once the nut is removed a few light taps and it slid back and came off. I have done a few Muncies and the input shaft bearing was never on so tight I couldn't get it off without using a press. Is yours not budging?

[@uletek]

@@FoothillPaintandFabrication I'm working on a Richmond Super T10 similar but different hoping not to pull the thing apart just to get the bearing off. I'll give it a try like you suggest and hope for the best. Thank you for responding!

[@uletek]

I ended up getting a bearing puller on it and got it off, very likely it's original so it was stuck on tight.

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

@@uletek Time has a way of doing that doesn't it? Glad you got it off.

[@Sick-Of-It-All]

The Borg Warner Super T10 Kits are the the opposite, OEM had 10 bearings and the new SKF "HD" bearing has 11 smaller balls. Here's the thing, the old ones with 100,000 miles were nice and tight and the new ones loose like yours. I made a video of them and also contacted Paul to purchase a couple of his sealed bearings. His response was that the loose bearings are fine and will tighten up when filled with lubricant. He also pointed out that they get tighter as they age. Who am i to argue? He's built more transmissions in his life time than i've had hair cuts. Not to mention, where to you go from SKF? Backwards? We'll see, but first I have to deal with a sloppy hub.

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

Paul does know his stuff that is for sure. I felt way more comfortable using the "old" bearing than the new one though. The Muncie is working great and absolutely no noise so going retro bearing worked out for us this time. I know Paul is a transmission genius but in all my years I have never found a bearing to tighten up unless it was rusty. Mark

[@timperez6248]

You mention it didn't have a factory 4 speed. I want to do a swap on mine. I have the muncie and bell housing . Trying to figure out he Z bar process or hydraulic clutch set up. Thoughts?

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

Sorry I somehow missed this comment Tim. I would think a hydraulic set up would be better but more expensive. Mechanical clutch is still really good though. Do you have the clutch pedal, linkage, pivot stud and counter shaft yet? If so finding the best location for the pivot stud mount on the frame is pretty easy. Just mock everything up so all linkages are traveling in a straight line from the pedal and the counter shaft is as level as possible. I will be switching to hydraulic on my GTO. Mark

[@chadbrown7648]

Getting ready to swap the saginaw out of my 65 n swap in a muncie which is what the car is supposed to have

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

A Saginaw? I wonder how that got in there? Is the Muncie in good shape?

[@whiteoutram0516]

@Foothill Paint and Fabrication my cousin the last owner put the saginaw in it it.was a auto before that but I have a fresh rebuilt Muncie to go back in like it was originally

[@FoothillPaintandFabrication]

@@whiteoutram0516 At least you don't have to go through the conversion from auto to manual. It will be super fun to drive that is for sure. Let me know how it turns out. Mark