Love the '65-'67 Goats, but appreciate the old Torinos, as well. Even though the Torino had more cubes and more torque, the GTO was quite a bit lighter. The Torino was the quicker car that day...a great race between two classics. Thanks for posting.
@jimmytheslimmy6703 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan of both. Any true muscle car enthusiast would agree.
@jimmeyer763211 ай бұрын
ANOTHER TORINO COBRA JET AND NO HIDEAWAY HEADLIGHTS ... THEY JUST LOOKED GREAT WITH THOSE HIDEAWAY HEADLIGHTS
@junglejim57852 жыл бұрын
When cars had character and drag racing was more then just a race. It was a SHOW and a PARTY.
@chuckselvage31572 жыл бұрын
Those Torinos are tough and have great lines.
@karlx-13 жыл бұрын
An SCJ Torino Cobra is a force to be reckoned with. I've got a 460, and damn these motors can HAUL with CJ heads.
@chuckd74233 жыл бұрын
I've got a 460 too, and it's kind of a hybrid build. It's a 70 429 SCJ block, with 4 bol mains and TRW aluminum pistons, but has regular 460 heads from that year, not CJ or SCJ. The heads have been ported and polished, and have been upgraded with CJ valves and aluminum roller rockers, so they're probably similar to CJ specs now. When I rebuilt the engine around 10 years ago after an oil pump failure, I installed a 460 crank and bored it .030 over, so it's now a 466. It runs good, but I've been thinking about upgrading to aftermarket aluminum heads. The engine uses a programmable MSD ignition system, has ceramic coated headers, edelbrock intake and 800 carb, mild cam upgrade, and too many other things to list. It's installed in a 72 Ford Ranchero GT with a built C6 and 3.50 traction lock, There aren't many Rancheros on the road anymore, at least not in NW Florida, where I live.. I've owned this one for around 30 years, and it's my toy that I enjoy taking out for a drive a couple of times a month, on nice days.
@sergeantmasson36692 жыл бұрын
@@chuckd7423 I have a factory stock 1970 Torino 429 SCJ 4 speed with the drag pack option. What's super rare about it is the only 1970 Torino plain Jane station wagon that Ford ever produced that way. '70-'71, Ford produced six 429 CJ A/T country squire trim Torino station wagons. Mine is a one only and it took several moths to get the car documented. I bought it in 1981 with 5 other cars in a wholesale package. It had a broken aluminum bellhousing, worn-out clutch, didn't run because the distributer points were fried, and it only had 34,300 miles on it. I found a cast iron bell-housing through Hemmings, installed new clutch, installed new points/condenser in the distributer and it ran find. I put 15x7 Magnum 500 wheels on it from a wrecked '71 Torino Ranchero GT. The paint was good but faded. The interior was mint. I replaced the stock Ford shifter with a Competition+ Hurst shifter. A few years later, the car was stripped to bare meal and repainted base coat/clear coat and I put an electronic conversion in the distribute. All new gaskets/seals, mew fuel pump, double chain with new timing gears in the engine. New gaskets/seals/bearings in the transmission and the rear differential. I replaced the differential traction-lock with a 3:70 gears Detroit Locker. I ran it on the drag strip, a few times, with 4:30 gears and street legal slicks rear tires and tall front drag racing tires. it did mid to high 11's with closed exhaust and aviation fuel.
@Marco-fi6gv3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful cars, in particular the Torino. That's a beauty! I used to have a 68 fastbackTorino gt with a 390/4spd manual. Damn, I wish I never got rid of it.🤦🏻♂️
@robertshirley1192 Жыл бұрын
That really is the car the Mustang should have been.
@badass6.0powerstroke103 жыл бұрын
What a combination, the 429 SCJ with the Top Loader 4-speed along with a Detroit Locker with 4.30,s in the 9" The 70 Torino Cobra is probably my favorite Car from that era, what an excellent cruiser with killer looks and that 429 BBF Super Cobra Jet monster lurking beneath that hood. The 429-460 engines came out too late in the muscle car era, so much potential with that engine platform. The aftermarket finally coming out with good Cylinder Heads last few years, Especially the support from Jon Kaase with the BBF stuff, mainly his Cylinder Heads. All you need is a good Stroker Kit, Solid Roller, some Kaase SR-71 Heads out of the box, and you easily over 1000 HP through a single Carburetor. With a rock solid bottom end. The 429-460 Fords really underrated engines, with so much potential. My favorite Ford Engines, along with the Clevelands.
@TrustyZ9003 жыл бұрын
You definitely know your Fords. I've had both motors and they're two of my favorites. One was in a '70 Mach 1 - 351 C/ 4 speed. the other was in a 1979 F150 that ran 300,000 miles. I owned it for 26 years and at that mileage still did not use oil. The 385 series motors had strong bottom ends. We had the chance to compare a427 BB Chevy and the 460 made the Chevys lower end look puny. The only reason I sold the F150 was that it was almost impossible to buy American made parts for it.New Fords are in name only.
@HarryPotter-no4lc3 жыл бұрын
The SCJ was a killer package for the money. The fine-tune and lighten the car a little and you have a killer
@badass6.0powerstroke103 жыл бұрын
@@TrustyZ900 Thank You, i was born in to a Ford family, my dad had a few 65-66 Mustang Fast Backs when i was growing up. Bought my 86 Mustang in 1994, was originally a 5.0 LX Hatchback, first did a mild 69 351 Windsor, then after that built a 72 351 Cleveland, ran that combo for a few years, then about 11-12 years ago built my first BBF, a 521 Stroked 460 with Trickflow Heads, Mild Solid Roller, Single 1000cfm 4150 Pro-Systems Carb, Built C-4, No Brake, 8" Converter, 8.8 with 3.90,s Moser Spool and 33 spline Moser Axles. Went 9.30,s on 275/60 Drag Radials, Mild engine with 10.4:1 Compression. I really like the 429-460 Engines, and still love the Clevelands too.
@junglejim57852 жыл бұрын
@@TrustyZ900 All car brands today are in name only. Like everything else. Cars and drag racing have been ruined.
@sergeantmasson36692 жыл бұрын
@@HarryPotter-no4lc Actual HP was 450+ not 375.
@majestical53313 жыл бұрын
Man that Torino is such a good looking car. What I really love is because of it and the Talledegas, the Daytona and Superbird were born. I am MoPar all the way, but Ford always had my respect and admiration. GM, on the other hand.. The first Muscle Car huh? I think the 413 Maxie in a Dart had that title 4 years prior.. But, MoPar fans already know how we are treated..
@richcar34343 жыл бұрын
It was pretty much the Mad Max Interceptor body too!
@taylorpinkney72532 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you
@kenprevatt12673 жыл бұрын
I would so love to have that Torino wow she is so pretty , nice rebuild guys
@Uptown593 жыл бұрын
The GTO and the Torino are classics. But 4hat Torino; what an automobile. It's set up exactly the way that I'd want it. (Edited addition) And I bet it rides good too!
@scottworley14793 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos, it's made the late 60s early 70s of muscle cars come to life again.
@adamtrombino1063 жыл бұрын
27 yrs ago my friend bought a red 70 Torino 429 SCJ with C6 and 3.91 rear as a roll over insurance total for 5k. It ran but that was it. Everyone thought he was nuts. He used 3 Torinos to put the car back together with a total investment of around $26k. Took over 9 yrs to get it roadworthy. 1st time at a run what you brung test and tune track night at a local drag strip, with an 9 inch slick, it ran a 13.9. After sorting the carb and distributor ( the advance was stuck, carb kept leaning out) it ran a 13.2, on modern radials. With the slicks the best he ran was a 12.9 at 121 mph. Except for external gaskets, the engine was untouched and nobody really knew how many miles were on it. The C6 got a fluid and filter change and that was all. With driver and 1/4 tank of fuel, the car weighed in at just over 4200lbs. I'm no Ford guy, but to this day, his car is still pretty fast, clicking off low 13s and when he launches right, high 12s. The heads were rebuilt, but short block has never been apart.
@theangrydragon1823 жыл бұрын
27 years ago he was nuts. They weren’t worth too much then.
@kande69163 жыл бұрын
Had this car ( Torino Cobra ) as a teen , would give anything to have it back today!!! It hurts !!!
@archiebunker60593 жыл бұрын
Do like both, but man that is one clean looking GTO. 💪
@gordocarbo10 ай бұрын
Love it...plain vanilla purpose built. Did my abody the same way . Cant go wrong with white
@LITTLE19943 жыл бұрын
That rare Torino sure is fast.
@sometimesieatcake41563 жыл бұрын
And is THICC
@sergeantmasson3669 Жыл бұрын
LITTLE, they're not all that rare. 7685 were produced in 1970.
@chuckd7423 Жыл бұрын
@@sergeantmasson3669 According to the video, at the 3:32 mark, only 125 SCJ, 4 speed Torinos were produced in 1970. That's pretty rare.
@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene3 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful GTO...GM sure had some amazing cars! Nothing on the road today can match the beauty of the 60's snd 70's Mopars and GM's.
@junglejim57852 жыл бұрын
Any of the cars back then.
@sergeantmasson36692 жыл бұрын
@@junglejim5785 GTO didn't become its own model until fall of '65 for '66 model year. '64-'65, GTO was an option for the Lemans/Tempest car.
@robertshirley1192 Жыл бұрын
Only, both marques paled alongside the Fords of that era. Not only the Mustangs and Torinos, but the Fairlanes, Galaxies and Thunderbirds as well. All big, beautiful and fast.
@jimhall54722 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Torino.
@elbarosa20843 жыл бұрын
Love pontiac gto
@nowthatsfunny13 жыл бұрын
I had a 1970 grand torino gt convertible in high school back in 1988. Had a 351 4v Cleveland in it with a shift kit. Called it the Shark cause it was primer painted grey would spin the wheels going into 3rd gear! Won many races goofing around. 60 dollars per week in gas....that was a fortune at 3.35 minimum wage! Lol Worth the memories. Paid 1400 for it....came home one day and my parents sold it without me knowing it. Got to many speeding tickets. Never got the money from it I was MAD!!
@todsimpkins89083 жыл бұрын
no you didn't. No such thing. Ford never released a GRAND Torino. The GRAN Torino was released in 1972. I would think if you owned one, you would know that.,
@rickhaile2190 Жыл бұрын
Nice Torino except because of the shock towers you almost have to take the motor out to change the plugs. Bought a 66 GTO about 40 years ago for $300 and drove it home. It needed electrical work and you could'nt just buy a harness in those days. I did'nt have enough money to fix it, so I parted it out! In those days those cars were just daily drivers, not collecter cars.
@kenster0073 жыл бұрын
Love em both.
@timmotel58042 жыл бұрын
Excellent, again. Love both cars. Your presentations and information on these and other cars that you post is second to none. Thank You
@louiskats51163 жыл бұрын
Goodday C & Z, 2 gorgeous muscle cars again & that Torino Sportsroof just fantastic lines. Love the dash layout on the GTO also. The Torino very similar to the Australian Hardtop released in the same year. Thr beautiful Ford Falcon XA GT RPO83 Hardtop. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
@ronnietyree83162 жыл бұрын
Man I like my torino too.
@charlesdalton9853 жыл бұрын
Great racing, thank you for posting these.
@seefooddiet44373 жыл бұрын
Surprising there isn’t more modern pure stock racing posted. Kind of a dying breed I suppose.
@AndrewByrnes-iv5dn Жыл бұрын
Exact same car saved my life in Clinton New Jersey put my fist through your window the neighbor was a nurse. I remember speeding through town with my arm over my head 6 years old
@reginalddentry73383 жыл бұрын
Those 2 years were just fun and plenty fast for 1966
@mitchroberts24573 жыл бұрын
Still a nice race
@lookielou8433 жыл бұрын
Too bad that Pontiac wasn't running its qualifying times. Would have been a great race!
@scottrandel72843 жыл бұрын
Still an interesting race
@sergeantmasson36692 жыл бұрын
@@scottrandel7284 The GOAT was no match for that COBRA.
@plymouthdie-castreplicas3 жыл бұрын
Nice muscle car battle.
@wesdionne2782 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is how a Red Torino 429 scj can vary with times of 13.71 vs Red Cuba with 440 of 13.78 on here to another 1970 Torino 429 of 12.93 to a Transam of 13.23 to a 1970 Red Torino 429 of 13.64 vs a Camaross396 of 13.59 to a 1970 Torino 429 with 13.08 vs Olds w-31 which wound up doing real bad so didn't write down time to finally a 1970 Torino 429scj of 12.72 to a 1969 Yenko 427 Camaro of 12.0 then 12.59. These times ranged so badly that I thought maybe read end as one guy stated that stock was geared 3.91 with Detroit Locker gearing being 4.30 but that couldn't be right as narrator advised 1970 Red Torino with 429scj had 4.57 factory gearing for 12.72 race so something else had to account for difference of 1.27 seconds so what????? Oh Yeah, one guy on here stated that Torino had to be running real headers as no way factory headers sounded that loud but he can be wrong as he is listening to computer speakers which can simulate real headers from factory headers with over the counter turbo mufflers.
@ronniefarnsworth64653 жыл бұрын
That Torino guy is great of the line !!
@richardboyle16453 жыл бұрын
I knew a rich kid in my youth who had a 65 gto. He told his old man when ordering it that the tri power was something that improved gas mileage.
@markg70303 жыл бұрын
It could save gas if you only ran on the middle 2 bbl, however who could keep their foot off the gas pedal like that?
@gregblack38603 жыл бұрын
I changed out my tripower to a single 850 Holley and went a whole 1/2 second faster . Does not look as good for sure .
@b.nunn.27022 жыл бұрын
Big ole Ford was Leaping out of the hole!! I think I heard 4:30 gears for it. I'm sure that's what got er' up and going!! Good Video! 👍👍👍
@seefooddiet44373 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the Pontiac guys haven’t said anything about the red plastic inner fender liners. Very rare option. They’re an NOS part that can now fetch well over $1000 if you can find them. Even reproductions are $900.
@richcar34343 жыл бұрын
I just painted mine...same look, but waaaay cheaper!...and so far I haven't had anyone whine about it yet.
@joequillun77903 жыл бұрын
That entire car (both) was super rare. Got my license in 74, and only saw one trip set-up, on a 65. I had to turn "my" 65 into a tri-power car, by adding a used 66 set-up to it. (Fun times) Now every time you turn around, some-one has trips on an early Goat. Don't ever see a std AFB anymore on a 389. Good thing too, I guess. Tri-power sounds "SO" much better. :)
@richcar34343 жыл бұрын
@@joequillun7790Cool, and you came out on top, because I've heard that the 66 setup has more total cfms than the earlier ones.
@joequillun77903 жыл бұрын
@@richcar3434 Yep. 64s had 3 small 2 bubs. (Vacuum secondary's). 65 had bigger carbs on the ends, (vacuum sec. also...which sucked wind.). 66 had 3 big 2 bubs, with mechanical secondarys. So much nicer.
@richcar34343 жыл бұрын
@@joequillun7790 suweeet!...I'm making do with an 800cfm Thermoquad for now...no tri-P,..but still roars better than the Qjet it had.
@gerryvandepol76302 жыл бұрын
Dude gets that Torino off the line like champ
@jeremyg79752 жыл бұрын
The SCJ is my favorite of muscle cars, I Like those dog dish wheels too. I really like old Pontiacs also. First Gen GTO and FIREBIRD are real hot. Lemans and Bonneville are hot
@jakeorenzo10093 жыл бұрын
Love the PONTIAC!!!!!
@jeremyrennersleftnut9053 жыл бұрын
Nice cars 👍
@joemama11512 жыл бұрын
That 389 tri-power got nothing for that 429scj!
@raymundorubio23758 ай бұрын
Ford should bring back the Torino Cobra 🐍 it will definitely be an eyesore for Mopar!!
@lesblack80363 жыл бұрын
My frist car was a 66 GTO 389ci motor same color as this one payed $500 in 1975 blown trans 2 speed I put a turbo 400 with shift kit in it then it was fun car.
@joequillun77903 жыл бұрын
My frist Goat was a 66, and paid $300 for it, in 74. triple black. Was a 4 speed, but didn't have the original 389. We won't talk about what some-one had put in it for a motor. :(
@donjennings90342 жыл бұрын
I'm a Ford man, but I love that GTO.
@kimmorrison91693 жыл бұрын
Damn, that Torino is a heavy car. Would love that motor in the earlier body style that only had the milder 428 CJ option.
@badass6.0powerstroke103 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i really love the 429-460 Engines myself also. I believe it was a better engine design than the FE Big Block Fords. It basically replaced them.
@cobracharmer61783 жыл бұрын
Kim Morrison ; The "Super CJ"'s intake manifold is cast iron.
@kimmorrison91693 жыл бұрын
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 yes, 385 series are a nicer design
@kimmorrison91693 жыл бұрын
@@cobracharmer6178 yeah, too bad as thats a big chuck of iron. making a heavy car heavier!
@badass6.0powerstroke103 жыл бұрын
@@cobracharmer6178 Wasn't the CJ intake cast iron, and the SCJ intake aluminum ? The regular CJ had a quadrajet Carburetor, and the SCJ had a Holley 780cfm Carburetor, that i know, i thought it was aluminum on the SCJ ? But not sure.
@RMAGEDN7403 жыл бұрын
Perhaps 3.91s would've been better with the 389 tri power. That Torino is badass, though! Still would take that 66 with red wheel wells and red leather interior. 😎
@1972Ventura455ho2 жыл бұрын
Not enough cam in the GTO to have a 4.33. That is probably why it's MPH sucked.
@RMAGEDN7402 жыл бұрын
@@1972Ventura455ho right, but as you know, Pontiacs build great mid range torque. Lower gears keep you in that spot longer.
@johnwilkerson21952 жыл бұрын
Both awesome cars true muscle
@needmetal32213 жыл бұрын
Those cars were bargains
@BobbyOfEarthАй бұрын
I find it.. somewhat perplexing, that Ford still used 428 Cobra Jets in 68 Shelby Cobras, when Ford introduced the 385 series 429, in the 1968 Thunderbird, which Ford designated, Thunder Jet 429. The engine came with two-bolt mains, 2.09/1.65 valves, 10.5:1 compression and a 600 CFM Autolite carb, rated at 360hp @ 4,600, and a gut-busting 480-lbs.ft. of torque at 2,800 RPM. More torque and only 15 less ponies than a 429 Cobra Jet, cost me $300 from our local Wreckers engine pile. Look around...
@maliburallye3503 жыл бұрын
SCJ Torino Rules!!!👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@VirginianSpencer3 жыл бұрын
My '66 Goat ran 13.2 at 107 MPH at Richmond, and I lost by half a car length to the B stock National Champion Goat.
@joequillun77903 жыл бұрын
107 is pretty fast, for lo-13s. Must've had some off line traction problems?
@bw35063 жыл бұрын
Were the Torinos a full frame car? Seems heavy compared to the Fairlane it replaced. Thanks for another good vid.
@Imperialist4403 жыл бұрын
This era of Torinos (1968-1971) were unitized construction with sub-frame like a Mopar; full frame 1972 and later.
@bw35063 жыл бұрын
@@Imperialist440 thanks I was thinking I had looked at a 68 and it was unitized like my 67 but I didn't know the years they were that way.
@cosmicHalArizona3 жыл бұрын
Even Torino 4 door w 302 were pretty fast
@billfeld58833 жыл бұрын
Time, tell us the muscle car era was gas guzzling low 13 seconds lead sleds, and regardless of how quick today's cars are, saying, " I got a 440,375 hp& 460lbft of tire shedding power, " yea I got a 2liter 135hp 195lbft of tire squealing power "love being old and enjoying both era's!
@Dayandcounting3 жыл бұрын
What's kind of crazy is v6 Camaro would smoke them both without any drama and not much noise. Or that there is a stock production EV in the cable of running 8.5@167mph. It's goes 0-100 in around 3.6 seconds. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnuufX2iqdODh6M
@gordocarbo10 ай бұрын
Never seen or heard of a 4 speed torino, cool! DIg both cars...sure wish GM woulda put round dash gauges in the GM A bodies. Had a 460 with owrked ovecr scj heads cam in an 85 GT back in the 90s. Wonder what a better cam and updated heads woulda felt like The scj heads were too big just didnt have any airspeed.
@joequillun77903 жыл бұрын
As much as I don't like the results, they are entirely believable. That 429 CJ is such strong engine, even when weighed down by that unibody Torino. But if the Goat was tuned by Ace Wilson, it would've had better results. :) .
@gregblack38603 жыл бұрын
Wish I could buy that Torino for 26 k today .
@scottrandel72843 жыл бұрын
You might be able to, just throw in what money you have and a blowie 👄
@MW-sw7so3 жыл бұрын
Was that a blow and go to the left of the steering wheel?
@therewhatgoes80383 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable how dumb some people are
@MW-sw7so3 жыл бұрын
@@therewhatgoes8038 what are you referring to
@MW-sw7so3 жыл бұрын
@@therewhatgoes8038 So, you're gay and I didnt say anything about that.
@therewhatgoes80383 жыл бұрын
@@MW-sw7so you’re even dumber that I thought. And why are you fantasizing about me being gay? No thanks, I’m not interested.
@nowthatsfunny13 жыл бұрын
Its a tachometer. I'm assuming by blow and go he means a DUI alcohol tester. Someone thats driving has to blow into it to determine if they are sober enough to drive.
@cosmicHalArizona3 жыл бұрын
3rd fav FORD after 69 Boss or Mach1 & the 40 Ford Coupe
@sergeantmasson3669 Жыл бұрын
Snake ate the GOAT easily.
@danmyers93723 жыл бұрын
What is that big electronic device mounted on the A pillar of the GTO?
@therewhatgoes80383 жыл бұрын
Vibrator
@badass6.0powerstroke103 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a Innovative or Innovate Air/Fuel Ratio Sensor, it reads the Air/Fuel Ratio while running and driving, so it's probably got an O2 sensor or 2 in the exhaust system. It looks horrible mounted in that GTO tho.
@therealhonestabe78393 жыл бұрын
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 I disagree. It shows he actually uses this car for its intended purpose. Plus it can easily be removed.
@tskraj31903 жыл бұрын
I was hoping the GTO was going to have the 421 Tri-Power and not the 389.
@chuckd74233 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be competing in the Pure Stock racing category if it had the 421, since that engine wasn't a factory option for the GTO.
@tskraj31903 жыл бұрын
@@chuckd7423 You're right. It was the 65 GTO that had the 421.
@chuckd74233 жыл бұрын
@@tskraj3190 I don't think the 65 model had a 421 either. As far as I can recall, the only factory installed engines available from the 1964 model through the early 70s, while they were still performance vehicles, were 389s, 400s, and 455s. I have no doubt that some aftermarket enthusiasts installed 421s in their GTOs, but it wasn't a factory installed option available to the public, and any such combination wouldn't be eligible to compete in the Pure Stock Drag Racing class. I was fortunate enough to own a 1969 Ram Air III GTO Judge back in the day. Wish I still had it but it got totaled during the late 70s while I was in the Navy and stationed in Puerto Rico. A construction worker fell asleep at the wheel after a long day at work and rear ended the GTO at around 60 mph while I was stopped at a red light. Luckily for me, there were no cars stopped in front of me. The GTO buckled from the impact and skidded a couple of hundred feet down the adjacent grass median. The car was damaged beyond repair and I felt very lucky to be able to walk away from it with only minor injuries.
@FirebirdCamaro12203 жыл бұрын
@@tskraj3190 nope, the 421 was only available in B Body Pontiacs (Catalina, Grand Prix, Executive/Star Chief, Bonneville)
@cyrusumberger5285 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know the tire size on the GTO?
@rugburnzz3 жыл бұрын
389? or 421?
@AndrewByrnes-iv5dn Жыл бұрын
Lynn Titus if you're out there reach out
@chidrole3 жыл бұрын
👍🇨🇦
@disgustedvet95283 жыл бұрын
I'll still take the GTO.
@gerryrogue77103 жыл бұрын
Bought my first car when i was 15 yrs old it was a 1970 ford torino with a 302 had alot of cars after that one 68 fairlane ,72 nova, 74 pontiac grand am,2/66 mustangs ,65 olds ,78 454 chevy wagon ,76 ford Gran torino,72 mercury montego, 72 olds cutlass ,76 pontiac firebird,76 olds cutlass,76 monte carlo, 78 monte carlo,78 chevy malibu , 72 olds 88 ,76 chry lebaron,87 454 diesel conversion van ,87 ford econoline conversion van ,78 ford thunderbird,83 ford ranger lifted with a 302 stroked to a 347,87 ford ranger2.8 ltr, 94 lincoln mark VIII ,87 chevy astro van biggest turd ever,97 ford f250 7.3 diesel cab and a half,99 ford f350 crew cab 7.3 diesel,2000 ford ranger splash lifted,88 ford ranger 4.0 lifted, 95 mustang last yr of the 5.0 convertable,94 ford ranger lifted,2000 vw jetta,2012 toyota fj cruiser,2007 ford f350 6.0 ,2015 jeep rubicon lifted,93 mustang GT hatchback 500+ hp,2014 lincoln MKZ 2.0 ecoboost awd,2016 ford f350 crew cab platinum lifted ,and my 70 Torino is still my favorite ,my 93 mustang foxbody GT 351/438ci 806 hp all motor is a very close second favorite
@howabouthetruth21573 жыл бұрын
Looks like the owner of that GTO needs to go find the guys at Car & Driver to run his car for him, because they got faster times with a totally factory stock car, and with less gearing for the 1/4 mile, lol. Still a beautiful car though.
@danmyers93723 жыл бұрын
Testing back in the day was rarely bone stock. It was very common for factory reps to be present and to tune the car to exacting standards.
@howabouthetruth21573 жыл бұрын
@@danmyers9372 Tuning a car doesn't mean they replaced original factory parts, now does it. And ya don't think the owner of this GTO has tuned it as well? Furthermore, you're ignoring the fact that Car & Driver was using LESS gear for the 1/4 mile versus what this car has.
@thefupalord96303 жыл бұрын
@@howabouthetruth2157 does no one pay attention to the video? He clearly stated the gto qualified at 13.87
@gary94263 жыл бұрын
If you are referring to the '64 GTO Car and Driver road test, the engineers from Pontiac actually yanked the 389, and dropped in a 421 HO for the Car and Driver test, along with M-21close ratio 4 speed and 3.90 gears. I believe it ran 13.1 quarter mile.. C&D editors were fooled! This according to Jim Wangers, the Godfather of the GTO.
@howabouthetruth21573 жыл бұрын
@@gary9426 Really? That's deceiving the public.
@tomcherry70293 жыл бұрын
The GTO is giving up 40 cubes and 4 years ,try a 1970 455HO or even a 400 RA IV
@fordfairlane662dr3 жыл бұрын
(F)irst (On) (Race) (Day) Ford Torino
@williemoon75223 жыл бұрын
there is a scj cobra rotting away a few miles from me .. dont ask .. the widow will not sell ..
@theangrydragon1823 жыл бұрын
Her car, her choice
@1badhaircut3 жыл бұрын
@@theangrydragon182 everyone must be trying to steal it cheap and she’s no dope - make a serious offer - she’ll take it
@williemoon75223 жыл бұрын
@@1badhaircut i know the owner ,, i knew her husband ,, he died in 1986 , . the car has sat since then ,, she says her son will get the car when she dies .. he will sell it quickly ,, i just hope i am alive then ..
@robertshirley1192 Жыл бұрын
There is (was?) An old guy in NE Houston, former NFL player, who jad a small parts/junk yard, mostly Fords. He had a 1965 or 1966 Galaxie 7Litre thst was his favorite, that he plannned to restore. And a pair of 1st gen. GT500s in the barn, next to the work bench where he was building a 427 cammer, probably for his Galaxie. And a 1969 Boss 429, rotting in the weather, in front of the barn. He said the engine was at home in his front yard. I cried. And cried. And cried.
@sergeantmasson36692 жыл бұрын
No contest. Ford spanked the Pontiac. Goat no match for the Cobra.
@henrymiley13183 жыл бұрын
It took some work on the heads of that 429 to meet its full potential
@badass6.0powerstroke103 жыл бұрын
Correct, now it's Easy with the aftermarket stuff now, especially the BBF Cylinder Heads, Jon Kaase got that completely covered with his P-51 and Sr-71 Heads for the BBF,s.
@cobracharmer61783 жыл бұрын
Henry Miley ; How do you figure? It's right in the ball park with Motor Trend times. If anything, the heads would've received steel valve seats to run unleaded gas. It also has the factory cast iron intake. So, this 429scj has a lot more potential.
@henrymiley13183 жыл бұрын
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 oh hell yeah man street scorcher
@henrymiley13183 жыл бұрын
@@cobracharmer6178 they did a documentary on man look it up i about shit when i watched it hence hemi killer
@lunchsack68613 жыл бұрын
@@cobracharmer6178 there’s another Torino SCJ in this class that runs 12s, and by the rules you can’t touch the heads. He’s bumped the compression, but said he made major gains by fine tuning the suspension.
@rodger70293 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Matador
@JP-dw1fp2 жыл бұрын
Good video but Where's the juvenile commentary and humor I enjoy so much?
@mikebockey41253 жыл бұрын
wrong gto, but pretty good matchups nonetheless.
@robertshirley1192 Жыл бұрын
First On Race Day!
@maximumcoverage55912 жыл бұрын
4:33 gears in a pontiac makes zero sense. To high of a ratio for that motor, runs it out to fast. 3.90 would have been a much better choice. It's not a Chevy that gets all its power on the top end. That and I can't imagine the traction issues that would come from that gear ratio and a 4spd. Like dude can't even floor it until he is deep into 2nd gear without sit and spinning. That Torino with the CJ and Detroit locker is set up exactly the opposite. It's more of a high rpm motor so he can get into it right away without spinning his tires and going no where. That locker is great for traction. Additionally I think the GTO learned the issues with 3 dueces... Hard to get them synced exactly right and most of the time they give no better or WORSE performance than a single 4 bbl.
@AndrewByrnes-iv5dn Жыл бұрын
56 West main Street
@sorshiaemms59593 жыл бұрын
TORINOS CONSISTENT FOR A STICK CAR AN EAST FOR IT S MASS
@JohnGordon-x7l2 ай бұрын
GTO is like Harris always has an excuse. Just got beat that's all.
@AlejandroRamirez-vl8mr2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather hear your weird @sss comments This one doesn't count
@linwoodccole97653 жыл бұрын
If pontiac was running right it would have beaten the torino
@therealhonestabe78393 жыл бұрын
You must have forgot about the driver factor.
@timmebruer52052 жыл бұрын
IF is a big word
@bigthunder28603 жыл бұрын
The Torino is lighter
@todsimpkins89083 жыл бұрын
lololol. over 500lbs heavier than the GTO. but nice try.
@dallasacuff93353 жыл бұрын
Man... too much bs... just show the race
@therewhatgoes80383 жыл бұрын
Funny that you’re too stupid to understand how to fast forward.