1969 Mercedes Benz 280SL Pagoda - The Most Important SL In Merc History?

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JayEmm on Cars

JayEmm on Cars

Жыл бұрын

Today I drive a legendary Mercedes, the 280SL "Pagoda". The successor to the hardcore 300SL, the W113 generation set the template for the next 50 years of SL.
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@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 Жыл бұрын
The Pagoda is cooler than ice cold, it screams of old money, refreshing and so classy when compared to its modern day Mercedes.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 Жыл бұрын
At least new Mercedes cars are better looking than Audis and especially BMW's that look horrible.
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 Жыл бұрын
@@detonator2112 anything looks better than a post 21’ BMW
@Freimopp777
@Freimopp777 Жыл бұрын
@@isaacsrandomvideos667 BMW 8 Series 👀
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 Жыл бұрын
@@Freimopp777 that looks alright but the grille is getting a bit too hefty and the rear lights really weird
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 Ай бұрын
And when you see them together , smaller than an SLK !
@joelamosun9341
@joelamosun9341 Жыл бұрын
This was an era when Mercedes was MERCEDES.....Top Class and build quality
@HighPeakAutos
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
I'm excited for this one. This is my dream car.
@emil.soderholm
@emil.soderholm Жыл бұрын
I'm a little younger so I'd rather have your SL!
@claretbadger8612
@claretbadger8612 Жыл бұрын
Just sold my 230sl. It was heart-breaking but needs must. When the sun is shining there is nothing classier to pootle about in!
@markwarminster
@markwarminster Жыл бұрын
I love my 1971 280SL, the last year of production. Light beige with tobacco brown tops and interior, 4 speed manual. I've owned it since 1998 and still have no desire to part with it. It's driven weekly, because the worst thing you can do to these cars is leave them sit for long periods of time like a "garage queen." Cheers from suburban Philadelphia!
@robertharris7027
@robertharris7027 Жыл бұрын
11:51 Drum brakes all round in a 280? No, that can't be. With the introduction of the 250 there were discs all round (even the 230 had discs at the front). Anyway, one of the best sounding Mercedes of all time. And my personal favourite Mercedes at all.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 Жыл бұрын
That is one of the most beautiful and iconic cars ever made. Right up there with Jag E-Type and air cooled 911.
@rogerhudson2814
@rogerhudson2814 Жыл бұрын
I has a 911S, I would have swapped it for a 230/50/80 SL in the blink of an eye. They are now getting very expensive. I know a garage that did a bare chassis nut and bolt restoration for under £100k, but that's Bosnian prices.
@martinboulden4388
@martinboulden4388 Жыл бұрын
Simply the perfect car to cruise around by the coast anywhere from Torquay to St Tropez. So pleased you liked it James ! Was worried it might get a thumbs down from you !
@CarTradition
@CarTradition Жыл бұрын
The very best classic car 🚗 a few years ago a British classic magazine told us that ❤️
@rupertmiller4718
@rupertmiller4718 Жыл бұрын
By far the prettiest benz ever. A friend of my fathers had a 250 in the late 60s and I have sat in the jump seat at for the time insane speeds for the time. He sold his Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlina to my mother to buy it, so 2 very cool cars in my early childhood
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 Жыл бұрын
Those rolled exhaust tips are nice and the gauge cluster is a work of design art.
@kobuserasmus2934
@kobuserasmus2934 Жыл бұрын
Mercedes should look at their past and start making beautiful cars again, a thing of great beauty!
@psircos
@psircos Жыл бұрын
what a marvelous thing. Turns out I was in one. Must have been 7, so 1978 and in Athens. A friend was running us somewhere and this was his chariot. I distinctly remember he put his foot down to give me a thrill, and we got to about 100 (kmh!). It felt like I was in a rocket, the feeling of the wind was awesome. it was my first shot in an open top
@apurugganan
@apurugganan Жыл бұрын
Have you come across anything that approached (or approximated) that feeling
@psircos
@psircos Жыл бұрын
@@apurugganan don't think so. It was my age, when things like that were very new to me so felt amazing. On the back of my mates Gpz1000, when he went from 0-100 and rammed on the brakes back to 30 sticks in my mind. That was more terrifying than thrilling though 😂. That was mid 90s, by most accounts, that bike is now slow for a 1litre 4pot!!
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 Ай бұрын
@@apurugganan yes : taking off in a VC-10 !
@jerrys.
@jerrys. Жыл бұрын
The W113 230SL won the Sophia Liege Rally in the early 1960’s. So it did still have some motor sport credentials. It was very expensive and was around double the cost of a contemporary E Type and similar sum to an Aston Martin DB.
@clitherowkid
@clitherowkid Жыл бұрын
I worked on these when they were new, at Mercedes Benz in London. Glorious then and even more so now. Great video, thanks for the memories.
@allosaurusfragilis7782
@allosaurusfragilis7782 Жыл бұрын
Back then, all the ladies wanted this car. They saw themselves cruising along the south of France in it, headscarf and sunglasses on. My mum certainly liked them. Dad bought her a lada....
@kennethmendenhallii1598
@kennethmendenhallii1598 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha poor mum!
@johnnyboy1586
@johnnyboy1586 8 ай бұрын
I think the ladies wanted to be Princes Grace of Monaco
@allosaurusfragilis7782
@allosaurusfragilis7782 8 ай бұрын
@@johnnyboy1586 definitely....every lady, ever.
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 Ай бұрын
My mum was more fortunate as back in the mid sixties my dad bought her a couple of years old 1964 230SL ; alas I was too young then and never got to drive that one , but did later get to drive all three variants ; the 230 is the only one that doesn't handle like a barge as it was actually engineered as a sports car and they were actually rallied very successfully in the early sixties . About 10 years later the pagoda was sold and my mum got a R107 350SL ; I did eventually get to drive that one , although my dad gave me his 220/8 to start off with after I passed my test , and it was an excuse for him to get his W123 250 which had just been introduced . After a few years with the R107 , my mum was grumbling about the fuel consumption , so it was changed for an Audi 100 , which actually she loved and that car stayed in the family for almost 20 years . Those early R107s were indeed thirsty beasts and you'd be lucky to ever see 15mpg ; the second generation ones are much more frugal , but go either for a 300 , which goes reasonably well and handles well , or just jump to the 500 if you want more performance , but doesn't handle just so well because of the big lump up front . After a non fault crash in the 220 ( a drunk driver came around a bend on my side of the road ) I got a 5 speed manual 280E (W114) which was a great car and I put over 200,000 miles on it . Also got my Ponton while I had that car and kept it for 38 years , and alongside it a W111 220S . Latterly have had lots of W201 / 123 / 124 / 126 and recently a W140 and a R129 300SL-24 , which has been one of the best cars I've owned and had decent performance with the 5 speed box , sounded wonderful and still had the slightly better handling which came from having the six cylinder rather than a quad cam V-8 up front . Had to sell it recently due to a change in circumstances and currently running an S124 , which is a great choice when limited to just one car as it's so versatile , but plan to get another R129 when I retire , to keep alongside the 124 . I still feel the R129 is a great choice : it links back to earlier SLs being solidly built ( and hand built ) , has enough mod cons but not too afflicted with modern electronics , so still reasonably DIY friendly ( it is still a W124 underneath ) , and not as electronically fragile as R230 and other later models . Best of all , it still has a removable hard top and a soft top for showers , which can be raised at the touch of a button . In my seven years of ownership I only had the hard top on twice ( once when moving house and once when selling the car ) , the soft top is fine all year round and as long as you don't try to lower it when temperature is too low , all is good , but i still got mine down whenever i could .
@newsnowireland4028
@newsnowireland4028 Жыл бұрын
Amazing car. You just have got to love old Mercedes…
@DavidJones-cf6ph
@DavidJones-cf6ph Жыл бұрын
Love the look of these, sheer class, but sadly couldn’t afford one, so went for the next best thing, an R107..a V8 of course…
@leuvenlife
@leuvenlife Жыл бұрын
I nearly bought one of these back in the 90's, it was immaculate. (Ex) Wife talked me out of it Every time I see one now, I die a little inside...
@JP-cu2gm
@JP-cu2gm Жыл бұрын
Wives or 280SL’s?
@leuvenlife
@leuvenlife Жыл бұрын
@@JP-cu2gm nah... seeing Ex's is never sad. Schadenfreude...
@albanana683
@albanana683 Жыл бұрын
I had the reverse. My wife wanted one, but other priorities meant a purchase slipped out of view. Have to make do with an Alfa Spider instead.
@johntheaccountant5594
@johntheaccountant5594 Жыл бұрын
@@albanana683 At least you owing an Alfa Spider, the wife doesn't have to worry about you having an affair as you will be spending most of your spare time fighting the rust.
@Broyale26
@Broyale26 Жыл бұрын
Classic Mercedes-Benz-The thinking man's car.
@kataleenablack6772
@kataleenablack6772 Жыл бұрын
I'm a girl, bought my own 280 horizon blue pagode, with my own money. Thinking girl's car, also have a classic 63 Aston too... 😉
@davidarter9670
@davidarter9670 Жыл бұрын
My Aunt owned a 230SL for years. To date it is STILL her favourite car of all time. Another wonderful review, James. The pleasure you enjoyed while reviewing this car was more than evident.
@heikkiremes5661
@heikkiremes5661 Жыл бұрын
Merc on its absolute pinnacle! Gorgeous machine!
@jimbo2833
@jimbo2833 3 ай бұрын
Compared to the literal soap bars that mercedes benz sells today, this thing, even though its like 50 years old now, is still pure class, as well as a money flex (not in a bad way though, this thing is iconic)
@davebarron5939
@davebarron5939 Жыл бұрын
Glorious, you have hit on one of my all time favorites. Saw my first one in about 1982, in AZ. USA. Didn't know what It was, but figured it out, and have been in love with the looks ever sense.
@captgutter
@captgutter Жыл бұрын
I have never really been a fan of Mercedes at all - apart from the Pagoda and the follow up 280SL 107 and 113s. Nothing else has excited me since either. Great review and a joy to watch.
@ElsinoreRacer
@ElsinoreRacer Жыл бұрын
College summer of 1981 I worked at a Toyota/Benz dealership. I sold new Toyota's and served as the unofficial 3rd Mercedes guy when they needed one. I remember two things: 1) getting to drive the Gullwing we had in the showroom as a draw to blow it out, fitted luggage and all, and 2) how much I hated the new 380 and 450SL. What an overweight, under-steering, body-rolling, numb-handling, pimp barge that thing was. The Shocker: People actually trading Pagodas in on them. In my brief time, 2 came in with sticks. Had to drive those (heel and toe doable, but not great). An honest and rather happy car. Not a sports car, but a willing GT if you asked nice (the tire choices were unfortunate. The only change it needed). I had always wondered if Mercedes buyers were car guys or show-offs. Anyone who gave up a Pagoda for 81 SL was no car guy. I am getting mad all over again and I don't even know why. I can only console myself with the knowledge that the Pagodas they traded in are now worth 3-4 times the garish stupid-mobiles they bought. Nah, I am still annoyed.
@apurugganan
@apurugganan Жыл бұрын
I believe my aunt had one, because she was looking to purchase that garage accessory that would lift the roof off without requiring her husband or an extra set of hands. She eventually leaned towards newer Mercs, and one thing she misses was the heavy *thunk* of old Mercedes doors.
@Sean-hs1si
@Sean-hs1si Жыл бұрын
This has and always will be my favourite car , in red aswell !
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 Жыл бұрын
It's been a very long time since I've seen a pagoda, but I'm pretty sure I've NEVER heard one! This sounds great!
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks Жыл бұрын
Awesome car. Looks like a proper wafter. Love that red colour. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
@arda_
@arda_ Жыл бұрын
The Pagoda is the most beautiful Mercedes ever imo, surpassing their more exotic models in form and elegance.
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 Ай бұрын
the W111 coupes and cabriolets , which were contemporary to it actually gave it a run for its money in the looks department .
@gerrywatson261
@gerrywatson261 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a video on one of my favourite Mercedes James. Keep up the great work!
@richarddavenport31
@richarddavenport31 Жыл бұрын
I LIVE IN THE USA AND THIS CAR WAS ALWAYS MY MOST FAVORITE MERCEDES SINCE I WAS A KID 60 YEARS AGO!!!
@nagylevi3827
@nagylevi3827 Жыл бұрын
Absolute beauty! Classy, stylish and well built classic. Truly a worthy dream car. That being said, it's quite unusual to hear that this particular one has drum brakes all around. Even the 230 had front discs and by the 250 I think they fitted all round disc brakes on most of the cars.
@davidsharrock5704
@davidsharrock5704 Жыл бұрын
My mum had a 64 230sl when I was a kid it had discs up front. I can’t see a later 280 having drums up front.
@alaindumas1824
@alaindumas1824 Жыл бұрын
@@davidsharrock5704 280 and 250 SL have 4 disks, with no exception as far as I know.
@kevinw62
@kevinw62 Жыл бұрын
That was great. Really enjoyed the whole thing. A beautiful classic car. I love these videos, would be great to see more.
@ThomastheTank113
@ThomastheTank113 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but i do have to correct you. It has discs in the front, not drums allround
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
My mistake, I was pretty sure I had asked the owner but in any case the brakes are decent!
@alaindumas1824
@alaindumas1824 Жыл бұрын
A 230 SL has drums in the rear, but 250 and 280 SL have 4 disks. There is no noticeable difference in the driving experience.
@jo05dk
@jo05dk Жыл бұрын
I've lived to see designs i once thought of as evergreens suddenly look old to me. The Ferrari Daytona as one example that'll likely get me a few hate comments or five. ..but the Pagoda.. Still absolutely beautiful to my eyes. I occasionally see one when i'm out for my daily walk, and boy do i wish i was behind the wheel of that. Back then, and many years after this, Mercedes were objects of desire. My personal favourite would still be a C126, 500/560SEC. Absolute icon if you ask me. ..but a 280SL Pagoda is pretty high on the list too. Lovely car.
@johntheaccountant5594
@johntheaccountant5594 Жыл бұрын
I had a 500SEC and was disappointed by it. It was too long and too wide and really only good for doing 60 to 120 mph accelerations on the German autobahns. It was so disappointing that I went back to manual 3 series BMWs and now due to BMW quality and reliability issues and service costs have moved to Lexus.
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 Жыл бұрын
@@johntheaccountant5594 Well, to be fair, you were driving manual BMW 3 Series, which are awesome sedans and feel absolutely engaging and easy to toss around but belong to another segment of cars, whereas the 500SEC was mostly built as big continental GT cruiser prioritizing comfort. Essentially it's a coupe variant W126, which in turn, is a flagship sedan and not a compact like that of a 3 series. Secondly, what chassis of the 3 series did you own to make you go to Lexus? I know that when it comes to E46s, it takes some time to find one that's been meticulously maintained and sorted out, but E36s have been relatively well built and solid. Or is it an E90?
@johntheaccountant5594
@johntheaccountant5594 Жыл бұрын
@@rahulmandala4930 Last was an E46 that was still nice looking and mechanically OK but the best were the E30s with the straight 6.
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 Жыл бұрын
@@johntheaccountant5594 I agree with the E30s! Such awesome little beasts...
@robt8620
@robt8620 9 ай бұрын
I owned a 280sl pagoda automatic for approximately 2 years and coming from air-cooled 911s and etypes I couldn't adjust to the automatic Merc...agree the styling is amazing especially with the headrests fitted...I would love to try a manual 280 to compare..and possibly with the upgraded rear axle often fitted.
@michaelleaver1766
@michaelleaver1766 Жыл бұрын
In an increasingly anodyne world,its good to be reminded how we used to do things.Character is an underrated and unique quality in today's age......This is rolling history and style.
@conza1989
@conza1989 Жыл бұрын
Very sweet car, works well in Red, I like the matching wheels of various Mercedes of the time, and I didn't know why they were called Pagoda. Thought I'd make a suggestion I've been seeing other KZbinrs do which is not letting the video continue on much past the end, I think it helps with watch time percentage, if you're interested (or you may be aware and it doesn't really matter).
@hexgraphica
@hexgraphica Жыл бұрын
I'm one of the few (I believe) that as a fan of the '80s much prefers the 107 over the 113
@robertharris7027
@robertharris7027 Жыл бұрын
Not one of the few - you are the only one. 🙂 Just kidding.
@LiamE69
@LiamE69 Жыл бұрын
Yup. I prefer the 107.
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
Thanks J, fine looking & sounding car! 🙏
@martinsandersdesign
@martinsandersdesign Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful car, always had a soft spot for the gullwing. This reminds me of my e30 325i convertible as it has similar intentions, while the e30 is a few generations younger it feels comparable to an SL. Old droptop classics provide a great way to enjoy summer driving while we can still enjoy combustion engines and open top cars.
@topgearalwaysrock
@topgearalwaysrock Жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Simply beautiful!
@richardsmith9509
@richardsmith9509 Жыл бұрын
James, this was a terrifc video....Love it !!!!
@Birmingham_racing
@Birmingham_racing Жыл бұрын
Stunning looking car!
@bonniedrasco8166
@bonniedrasco8166 Жыл бұрын
My favourite car ever! And I’m a 911 fanboy
@tomcarlton854
@tomcarlton854 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Lovely MB👍
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 Жыл бұрын
A beautiful classic.
@sononatoamestre
@sononatoamestre Жыл бұрын
What a magnificent car the Pagoda. My fav spec though : no red, manual and with original hard top
@johang7498
@johang7498 Жыл бұрын
It's for reviews like this that I'm happily subscribed to your channel ... The pagoda-SL to me is Mercedes' greatest masterpiece of all time. No other car of them has that balance of style, refinement and sportiness in its understated lines. If I were to drive one like this, with that beautiful shade of red, I can easily imagine never wanting to part with it again. Ever. I'd like to add that the 230 SL really was much more the successor to the 190 SL than that of the 300 SL; initially, in the 1950s, it was going to be a 220 SL as a quicker version of the somewhat underperforming 190. But as the new fintail saloon was already in development back then, it made more sense economically to create a new SL based on that as a successor to both 190 and 300. Ending up a little heavier as such (and thus not as "leicht" as the SL abbreviation suggested) Mercedes decided to upgrade the 220-engine and so it became the 230 SL.
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 Жыл бұрын
Sweet ride.
@delegateview6093
@delegateview6093 Жыл бұрын
i had a 68 one very special car, i should never of sold it! A classic car that you can drive every day. I did!
@bimbettocavallo
@bimbettocavallo Жыл бұрын
At 0:00 I thought for a second there had been some radical change of look
@bryjan51
@bryjan51 Жыл бұрын
Not really into "exotic" stuff, but I will make an exception on this one, great vid.👍👍
@SharpblueCreative
@SharpblueCreative Жыл бұрын
Repair the speedo give it a good clean, detail & polish and that will make it even more gorgeous. Lovely car. Re the heater controls, I’m sure there will be a 3D printer cad file out there somewhere. Would be a lot cheaper I’m sure.
@KSL12
@KSL12 Жыл бұрын
My brother had a 190 SL he bought it for £80 and a set of air horns. I also restored a 230 SL. Great cars.
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Жыл бұрын
That's the thing with Mercedes: they exchanged the name they had created for nearly a century for selling overpriced regular cars.
@markprendergast1718
@markprendergast1718 Жыл бұрын
I'm so in love with that car
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084 Жыл бұрын
Marvelous!!!
@alexmartinez280
@alexmartinez280 Жыл бұрын
Love that car
@barryhughes1612
@barryhughes1612 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous car
@thedetailingdoctor5746
@thedetailingdoctor5746 Жыл бұрын
I’ve driven the next ten to this and it’s was amazing
@guidovanhauwermeiren3667
@guidovanhauwermeiren3667 Жыл бұрын
Im lucky enough to own a 1970 and it’s a dream. Just for the record , the 3 seater was a california coupe and the original-one did not have a soft top , just the Pagoda top. The one you are driving is kind of an aftermarket non original 3 seater. Nevertheless, an amazing car that should make us smile once the all electric era , sadly, will inevitably start.
@alaindumas1824
@alaindumas1824 Жыл бұрын
The car is perfectly original. I own a similar 3 seater with a soft top. It has been registered as a 3 seater since its birth and is an European car. The roadster models lacking the soft top were 2 + 2 cars as far as I know.
@jameshunterford4099
@jameshunterford4099 Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to watch this, but wait I must 😭
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 Ай бұрын
I've driven them all , my mother had a 230SL , it was pick of the bunch with 4 speed automatic ( which worked back to front ) and proper suspension with grease nipples ( 3000 mile job ) and handled far better , as it was engineered as a sports car , unlike the bloated jellymoulds that came after . Moreover , Setright agreed with me . Once you've cut your teeth on swing axle cars you will learn to chuck them around ; later cars with semi trailing arms were much more forgiving to the uninitiated , but I cut my teeth on Pontons and Fintails so was well prepared when it came to Pagodas , which were just an extension of the W110/111/112/113 series and derived from the saloons .
@jwmurphyccsis
@jwmurphyccsis Жыл бұрын
Excellent car and review. If only current Mercs were as good
@AW8UK
@AW8UK Жыл бұрын
My mother owned a silver 280SL Pagoda...I appreciate these more now (I am an MB owner now) , but in honesty. In early 90s I preferred the E30 325i M Sport convertible she had afterwards ....even with harsh suspension.
@Sinjin.S
@Sinjin.S Жыл бұрын
Inventory always wanted one
@kavinskysmith4094
@kavinskysmith4094 Жыл бұрын
You need to get a 190 in, as its like this car just of a much higher quality, the leather, the quality, the fit and finish are all top notch handmade quality with a true bespoked feel to it, and it has the 300SL motor in it more or less, like I had the luck of having a family barbecue in germany with my relatives and one of the people there was caretaking a 190SL for someone and I got to ride in it and I swear that is the nicest car I have ever been in to date, like dont discount the 190 as being some detuned and then sold to the public special, its a proper SL and the 2 series is just a cheaper version of it, and they didnt get back up to the same level till the mid 70's with'em and appropriately the market has recogonized this, as their now 80 or 90 grand, which unlike most inflationary prices from time and the internet, is still a fair price for one
@Mtnflying
@Mtnflying Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Wow, thankyou!
@Scrubworks
@Scrubworks Жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson once wrote that ugly people shouldn't be allowed to drive these cars. He also wrote that he once saw Kate Moss driving one, and spaffed himself (paraphrasing).
@zoobee
@zoobee Жыл бұрын
Its one of the most elegant and stylish cars ever made. The design is forever beautiful. The dashboard is perfect. Mercedes should bring out a new version.
@HQBProductions
@HQBProductions Жыл бұрын
A fully restored one would be a joy to own but there are plenty of bodged up horrors so buying one needs a great deal of care and investigation. This car looks to be honest but tired cosmetically…it wears its age and use but maybe a full refresh would improve it a lot….the “Pagoda” remains firmly in my Lottery win list!!😀😀😀
@morgman43
@morgman43 Жыл бұрын
And now Mercedes have handed the SL to AMG. They need to look at this to remember what the SL should be.
@TheEarlofK
@TheEarlofK Жыл бұрын
My father bought a 280 SL in period, in silver, and I don't care what anyone says, it only looks really good in silver. I can remember him driving me to school in it, and during the summer he would take the roof off (I can recall it now hanging in the roof of our garage), and this was the only time I've experienced open-top motoring. To me it was beautiful from every angle, especially the minimalist interior. Unfortunately, my father had his only bad accidents in the Mercedes, both caused in slippery conditions when the rear brake drums locked causing him to slide into, and virtually under, the rear of lorries; I could never understand why Mercedes didn't fix discs all round. So it had to go, and my father replaced it with a rather boring, but safe, 280 SE saloon.
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 Жыл бұрын
It took nearly twenty years for other makers to build 4 speed autos, even a decade into fuel crises.
@stevie007
@stevie007 Жыл бұрын
I think I like your uploads!!!!!!!!!!! I do believe you speak a little too quickly for me, but hey ho we do have a button called rewind 😀😀 so guess what, I occasionally use that button mate 😁😁
@Carrera-gp9od
@Carrera-gp9od Жыл бұрын
Someone kept stalking you the whole way through this video in a dark coloured Boxster 😵
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick Жыл бұрын
Was going to ask the same…. Wanna be Pagoda owner.
@simono.sniper3214
@simono.sniper3214 Жыл бұрын
Classy, great noise and very satisfying to drive. What more do you want?
@user-eb8ld6kn8t
@user-eb8ld6kn8t Жыл бұрын
Auto gearbox but the soundtrack of the shifts sound like a manual. Wondering how this gearbox may differ from a regular auto? Would also love to see you do a review of the successor sl. Great vid again
@garthlundquist3623
@garthlundquist3623 Жыл бұрын
Mercedes was one of the few European automotive manufacturers that designed and built their own automatic transmissions. This was a 4 speed unit with a torque converter. It was programmed to start out in second gear unless the driver floored the accelerator pedal, thus actuating an electric kickdown switch. First gear was quite low and rarely needed. Shift quality was excellent, and the driver could not detect slippage as with other units. These transmissions were very well made and typical lifespan was 150,000 miles in normal service. Contemporary American auto boxes were 2 or 3 speed units. Some like the Chrysler Torqueflights and GM TH 350’s and 400’s were equally durable, but many other models would fail before 100,000 miles. Similarly the engines were well proven and built of top quality materials. I saw over 150,000 miles out of several different MB 6 and 8 cylinder engines without any unusual repairs.
@cbmsysmobile
@cbmsysmobile Жыл бұрын
I think all automatic boxes should have the lever this way round. What is sensible about moving the lever backwards in order to go forwards?
@IsaacReddinger
@IsaacReddinger Жыл бұрын
That exhaust note....
@rogerhudson2814
@rogerhudson2814 Жыл бұрын
Before Mercedes lost it's way in about 1989, lovely.
@flyinghedgehog3833
@flyinghedgehog3833 Жыл бұрын
Sat in the back of the 230Sl..Earl's Court ...kudos to Alex
@juanlauda2300
@juanlauda2300 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous motor, love everything about it. only the 600 Grosser is cooler.
@martinclapton2724
@martinclapton2724 Жыл бұрын
Remember seeing SL models in various Continental films of the 1960s , often shown on 1970s Tv slots, always giving a fantastic envious air of grandeur , one of my favourites is the film Arabesque starring Gregory Peck and Sophia Loren . Sophia Loren in a Mercedes’ SL ……DOES IT GET ANY BETTER ?
@numbersix8336
@numbersix8336 Жыл бұрын
That is in the perfect condition to enjoy a car like that, plus that third seat has my dogs name written all over it.
@guenthermichaels5303
@guenthermichaels5303 Жыл бұрын
This is the car you picture Cary Grant driving on the Cote d'Azure. Surprizingly, this little car weighs 3,000 lbs and has a massive 80 Litre gas tank. Did the originals not have white wall tires?
@graemep7791
@graemep7791 Жыл бұрын
Elegance is timeless. The Pagoda was, and still is a beautiful car. I think they were twice the price of an E Type when new. I'm not a fan of the Pagoda in red as I feel red is a bit too tarty for such an elegant car, I suspect Silver or gunmetal grey are probably the best and most sought after colours. I think the heater controls in that car have already been replaced as the original Mercedes sliders were made of transparent blue perspex for the cool settings, and transparent red perspex for the hot settings, not simply chunks of black plastic as in that car. How do I know this? I've got a very original 250 SL which I've owned for over 30 years, and I'm the type of bloke that's bored with most cars after 3 years.
@PpunktP
@PpunktP Жыл бұрын
Wunderschön
@bingoberra18
@bingoberra18 Жыл бұрын
James on another red note will you be featuring "The tomato" anytime soon?
@francis2811
@francis2811 Жыл бұрын
Pagoda is also Russian for 'Weather!' That stunning Mercedes is the best looking car of all.
@jamesbrett6518
@jamesbrett6518 Жыл бұрын
How would we describe those wipers?
@jordanfeltcorn1645
@jordanfeltcorn1645 Жыл бұрын
Funny you mention the 4 speed manual is more difficult to find, in the States, I've seen maybe 10 280sl Pagoda's, and all have been manual. I didn't even know until I saw this example that they offered an automatic!
@alaindumas1824
@alaindumas1824 Жыл бұрын
He said the 5 speed manual was hard to find, which is true, but he forgot to mention the 4 speed manuals which are common.
@francisgaliegue6645
@francisgaliegue6645 Жыл бұрын
I seem to recall reading that SL stands for Sport Leicht... Well, it's been a long time since at least it's nowhere near L anymore :p
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 Жыл бұрын
That third seat brings to mind Clarkson's comment about only one person ever looking good in the back seat of a convertible.
@martinlaver4707
@martinlaver4707 Жыл бұрын
If I closed me eyes and listened, I would swear that was an E Type. Lovely noise.
@biosbank1
@biosbank1 Жыл бұрын
The 280SL Pagoda.. The only car I've ever crashed. My father was not particularly pleased with me, shall we say.
@kataleenablack6772
@kataleenablack6772 Жыл бұрын
Nico Rosberg (or whatever his name is) has the same horizon blue as my car, the only difference being that Nico's horn thing is white and mine is black.❤
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