We need to hear them! Just idling would be perfect.
@CarsandCats2 жыл бұрын
Stainless drip rails WERE and option. I've had 3 2nd gen Camaros with them. A '70, a '72 and a '73. They were part of the bright trim group RPO Z21.
@haroldstrickland84162 жыл бұрын
My 72 gas drip rails as well.
@stephenyoutubin44762 жыл бұрын
Sold my 73 Z28 in 2001, bought it in Beverly Massachusetts around 1996.It was 95 % restored just had to install interior and odds and ends.Wish I had it now.
@DennisPage-il5gj10 күн бұрын
Where are you located?
@EffequalsMA2 жыл бұрын
I had a 70 coupe with the snake fang bumper as me first car.....still love it. Loved the horseshoe auto shifter, too....
@AJ679012 жыл бұрын
the '69 was a hard act to beat. They still look great in my opinon, especially with the RS appearance package.
@jeffjackson96792 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the first gen was always my favorite looking Camaro, followed by the 3rd gen. Was never a fan of the 2nd gen. look for some reason.
@kevinkendall31222 жыл бұрын
One of the best looking Chevys ever made, especially with the RS package,totally agree 👍
@willstikken56192 жыл бұрын
I disagree about the RS package. The split bumpers have a nice look but the round indicator lights are just, off. It also looks less aggressive than the standard bumpers.
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the RS as well , the standard front end looks way too much like an overinflated Vega .
@clevlandblock2 жыл бұрын
The 70 Camaros did not appear in the showrooms until Feb 1970, hence the lower sales figures. At the time, they were referred to as 70 1/2 models. In those days they would normally have been in showrooms by September 69. By getting manual instead of power steering in these cars you'd be pissing away the excellent and new, Saginaw variable-ratio feature.
@stoneylonesome582611 ай бұрын
And GM extended the ‘69 model year for Camaro/Firebird until December, making those 1969 sales figures even bigger by comparison.
@stevepastore79702 жыл бұрын
UAW strikes in '69 caused the delay in '70 production so Chevrolet kept producing the '69's until January of '70 causing the inflated numbers for the '69 Camaro's and the low numbers for the '70's hence a lot people advertise the '70's as '70 1/2 when they come up for sale or refer to the in discussion.
@Jeremey722 жыл бұрын
The strike had nothing to do with the camaro coming out late it was due to body tooling issues. All other 1970 Chevrolet’s came out on time. And the 69s sold into December of 69 not January of 70
@thud97972 жыл бұрын
The Corvette was late, the 70 not built until Jan 70 so not all were on time. Coincidence?
@Jeremey722 жыл бұрын
@@thud9797 yes the corvette was late but the camaro was late due to body tooling issues not the strike
@johnr52522 жыл бұрын
Very nice looking car. That spoiler on the back is the exception. That one looks awesome. Understated; not ridiculous. Love it.
@jeffspicolli5938 ай бұрын
The short spoiler on the 70 is the nicest IMHO.
@lukewalker10512 жыл бұрын
Could be argued the '69 Z28 was the pinnacle. This is my era. But, that car is off the chart desirable with the high compression LT1 motor. My Dad was an auto engineer for Chevy and brought home one of the first 70 Camaro's. I just got my license. I drove them in different trims including SS396. I really thought the 70 Camaro was a sexy redesign but a '69 Z28 is one of the most coveted muscle cars that always punched way above its weight. The 302 was a screamer. Steve you are a leading expert on musclecars. I grew up in Detroit and street raced mostly Chevy's but my friends and I built Shelby's to GTO's...not many Mopars which were fast too. I followed in my Dad's footsteps and became an auto engineer too. Steve, when you speak, I listen and have followed you at different venues for many years. Your knowledge is very impressive.
@johnmilner76032 жыл бұрын
My very 1st Z/28 was the 68 which I purchased in 1974. My current one from the orig owner is a 70 4 speed which I bought in ‘81. All my Z/28’s were 4 speeds. The others I bought were ‘71, then I ordered new Z/28’s in 77, 78 and 80. A friend of mine owns my 68 Z/28, british green w white stripes and black interior.
@johnmilner76032 жыл бұрын
@@alfredvinchagurara2054 my 77 I ordered silver with black interior and in 78 black with black interior with turbine wheels that came gold due to the gold stripes.
@billyfoster32232 жыл бұрын
I need this beautiful car in my garage, Steve! Thanks for the great video!😁😁
@anthonyarnold9062 жыл бұрын
Sweet car. I prefer the split bumper myself. Super nice original car
@bunk-bn9eo2 жыл бұрын
Everyone does.
@jackpinnell32042 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve I rescued a 1970 Camaro the same color as the one you are looking at and it had MATCHING color wheels! Same identical wheels as those in your video.
@MrBluoct2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate all these detailed reviews !
@The_R-n-I_Guy2 жыл бұрын
I would love to have that car. I had a 78 rust bucket with a 250 inline 6 that was fun to drive. I bet that Z28 is a blast
@finscreenname2 жыл бұрын
I had an 80 back in the late 80's early 90's that I street raced the crap out of. I still miss that car to this day.
@30pvfd2 жыл бұрын
Wow nice classic z28 what a beauty thanks Steve
@KetchLambier Жыл бұрын
Hope you're feeling better, Steve. I enjoy your videos. Happy Thanksgiving!
@GreyRockOne2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve! You are the best spokesperson!
@larryhinricksen6572 жыл бұрын
The Greatesr Review ever of the 2nd Gen 1970 Z28
@ScottALaFollette2 жыл бұрын
Because of Steve Magnante “Mr. encyclopedia“ you have a new subscriber. 👍
@davidbalentine21102 жыл бұрын
I had a split bumper 70 Z28 4 spd. Original. It ran real good. Now days I have a 2015 Z28. It would kill the 70 no contest. Wow the improvement!!
@scrapplepig2 жыл бұрын
I would hope so as there is a 45 year difference, but if both are very clean the 70 is worth more.
@ChrisBrown-pz2gu2 жыл бұрын
The 70 looks so much better, though
@howardbedford60752 жыл бұрын
The 70- Z28 the best Camaro ever! It's final, it's over, end of story and no argument!
@kencraig7308 Жыл бұрын
Ya but the 69' makes a better looking Pro street car 👌
@stevethomas760 Жыл бұрын
I had a '67 Camaro SS, 350/4sp with 4:10 gears that ran better than it should. Raced a friend with a 396/375 Chevy II, got him by a fender. Good times, but like you said the current cars would put them to shame. Heck I own a Subaru WRX that would give it more than it wanted in a 1/4 mile. That said I would give a lot to have that car back now.
@jimjungle13972 жыл бұрын
The 1970 Camaro didn't come out until late in the 1970 model year and ended production at the end of 1970 model year production, so that in itself reduced production numbers for the 1970. The LT1 350 engine was sold in parts form, over the counter in 1969, consisting of an L46 engine, an over the counter, "improved torque" Z28 camshaft, Z28 intake manifold and Z28 carb. The camshaft used was originally offered over the counter an improved torque 302 camshaft, before being used in the 350. Several GM parts books refer to the 1969 LT1 350 and it differs from the 1970 production engine mainly in not having push rod guide plates that the production 1970 LT1 350 has.
@kennydemartini21692 жыл бұрын
Good call on the guide plates. I have a '69 302, and a '70 LT1. They use the same head casting number. The 302 has screw in studs without the guide plates, the '70 has both.
@finscreenname2 жыл бұрын
I love the old Z's and Firebirds. That one so needs a to be loved!!
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS2 жыл бұрын
It's a SiCK car!! You mention ZolaTone Steve, my buds entire 62 Dodge Lancer was painted in that stuff!!
@jimgallagher29792 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat this one. I had a white w/black vinyl roof. Great car.
@mitchbertone38092 жыл бұрын
Missing the rear bumperettes, but the splash pan has the grommets in it, so just a replacement rear bumper is wrong.
@bernardbrooks28892 жыл бұрын
nice review thanks for the video
@jimbernitt75902 жыл бұрын
Hi.. a honest and good video... with two good tidbitz... the 350... l...t...1 engine ...and the upgrade on the trans ... only on a z.28 can a 4spd... be considered an upgrade... great wording... from a real gear head... have a nice day...
@ronherkey1482 жыл бұрын
Nice car. $46,500. A tad steep. My 2cents
@kevinkendall31222 жыл бұрын
They dropped production quite a bit for 72,only 2,525 built that model year(due to a strike I believe) 🤔
@CarsandCats2 жыл бұрын
Sales plummeted because the '69 sold for 18 months, while the '70 sold for 6 months!
@johnnyv6732 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car
@gojackets48942 жыл бұрын
Being from the south, I love the interior color. In the summer I would burn up in my black interior 1977 Camaro. I don't think air condition was available on the Z28 until 1973.
@Jeremey722 жыл бұрын
Steve your wrong about the rear emblem it was metal on both the small spoiler and tall 3 piece spoiler in 70 and 71 it changed to a decal in 1972
@67stingray1 Жыл бұрын
The 3 piece spoiler had a decal. The short 1 piece spoiler had an emblem. I owned each originally. Steve's correct.
@Jeremey72 Жыл бұрын
@@67stingray1 70-71 tall spoiler Z28 was a emblem 72-73 Z28 it was a decal I’ve owned both also
@johnpena91652 жыл бұрын
The valve covers are incorrect for a 1970 LT-1 350 !
@jeffjackson96792 жыл бұрын
I think a lot to do with the early 70s low sales for the Z28 was due to the SS still being around and cannibalizing a lot of the sales away from the Z. Then when the SS got discontinued (in 73 I think?), Z28 sales shot up due to that.
@barnabyjones51612 жыл бұрын
73 was the first year of the Type LT to replace the SS, since there was no longer a big-block option, which is what the SS package denoted.
@1967davethewave2 жыл бұрын
Was that sweet shag carpet package tray original??? Seriously, a beautiful old survivor.
@THROTTLEPOWER2 жыл бұрын
Now that is a NICE Camaro!!!!!! 👍👍👍
@kennymay90362 жыл бұрын
l think the strike that year affected production numbers and sales due to availability.l understand the small deck spoiler was only 1st half of prod year...maybe.
@CarsandCats2 жыл бұрын
Correct. Tall spoiler came later in the 70 model year. When I pulled my spoiler off, had Goodyear stamped in it. I thought that was kinda unique!
@stevenhuckaby29022 жыл бұрын
I like the 19701/2 , and a half , with the split front bumber , anyone remember those ??
@jimthompson99922 жыл бұрын
My heart is breaking watching this...I had a 70 Z28 in 72-73 in line green with the same front bumper and, man...did that car run!! And being an idiot, I sold it to get my 69 Corvette, 427 4 speed...that was a pure piece of junk! I miss my Z...banging that 4 speed.....sigh!
@jeffjackson96792 жыл бұрын
Why was the Vette so bad with the 427?
@goratgo19702 жыл бұрын
Sure Jim, you sigh but gotta say you did try (or "tri" if it had tri-carb) by going BB Vette, but likely issues with yours (?) as my friends 69 was a blast. And my 72 Vette 350/auto 3.08 gears did 160mph. Then there's today's wacky values...
@milojanis49012 жыл бұрын
@@jeffjackson9679 A 427 Corvette was junk? Imagine that!!!
@thman64532 жыл бұрын
Nice car
@robertgembala85322 жыл бұрын
Awesome cars
@Darryl66362 жыл бұрын
Ah man fucking nice Steve
@Jeffreycarr-t7g4 ай бұрын
I really liked thd winnibago itasxa sharo vud thankyou
@ricktaylor37482 жыл бұрын
The power steering pump didn't "zap" 10 horsepower, maybe 2 or 3 at most. Not having power steering is a bummer.
@kennydemartini21692 жыл бұрын
Regardless of how much it zaps, my '68 Z will be getting power steering this spring. I'm getting too old for this manual steering crap.
@Mocking692 жыл бұрын
Very cool ♪
@owatajrkiam2 жыл бұрын
My buddy went to jail while running flat out in his 70Z 4spd. 125 mph on radar.
@CarsandCats2 жыл бұрын
LOL That's all my '72 Super Sport would do. The tail started wagging due to the spoiler. It really didn't help!
@finscreenname2 жыл бұрын
@@CarsandCats Camaro's asses were so light and at those speeds the cars really needed rear wings.
@philolen4812 жыл бұрын
Very cool car --
@jasonhull57122 жыл бұрын
What a stunning car. You just don't see them in that good of condition not to mention with all the numbers matching parts ! The interior colors are intriguing. What is that ? off white /saddle and black ?
@zephead48354 ай бұрын
It was all about Earth tones in the early seventies. Brown green gold.
@TheShootist2 жыл бұрын
nice, but can you give it a Doug Score®?
@DG-fe4ht2 жыл бұрын
Scratch on left quarter by trunk deck?
@Alan-tw6yo2 жыл бұрын
Yes and some rust bubbles and hole behind the left rear wheel. Hmmmm
@DG-fe4ht2 жыл бұрын
@@Alan-tw6yo thx for reply.
@kc0lif2 жыл бұрын
great car but i like split bumper i think the split bumper was rs. i knew someone had one with column shift.
@boston77042 жыл бұрын
wondering how comfortable the garage is, coz that's where I'd be if I got this. I'm Ok with that!
@RoyboyBean2 жыл бұрын
Was the split bumper an option? I’ve seen Z28 with and without full bumper, beautiful car👍
@grabasandwich2 жыл бұрын
I'm 99% sure split bumpers are on the RS. I don't like when people chop up a full bumper or put split bumpers on a non-RS with the signals still below the bumpers.
@ricktempleton34152 жыл бұрын
Split bumpers were a rally sport option.
@DanEBoyd Жыл бұрын
As long as you ordered the Rally Sport (Z22?) package along with Z28. Earlier Z28s could be had with the RS package too, and would have the covered headlights.
@raullopez74392 жыл бұрын
Is this car for sale
@quicksilver4622 жыл бұрын
Is that castillian bronze? (Pontiacs name for the color)
@robertjohnson70672 жыл бұрын
The 70 s i remember is a split bumper in front
@Alan-tw6yo2 жыл бұрын
Yes with the rs option, otherwise you got the straight front bumper
@ricktempleton34152 жыл бұрын
That's a rs optium
@kencraig7308 Жыл бұрын
How come this is considered a 2nd generation ? The 67 and 69 would be 1 and 2 right ?
@DanEBoyd Жыл бұрын
No. '67-'69 is the first generation.
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Жыл бұрын
'69 used the same inner body structure as the '67-'68 cars .
@DanEBoyd Жыл бұрын
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 And the same doors, hood, and decklid, I believe.
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Жыл бұрын
@@DanEBoyd right you are .
@savedin87ify Жыл бұрын
I would like to have it
@richardpeetrinpeetrin9817 Жыл бұрын
1970-1/2 Camaro Z-28
@bluesman74752 жыл бұрын
Nice looking 70, but the 69 was a better looking car and the DZ 302 was a much more powerful engine than the LT-1 no matter what the sales brochure in the dealership said.
@JT-SE-OHIO2 жыл бұрын
Since the trans has been changed I wouldn't hesitate to put the split bumper on the front. They look bitch'en. Is it also a low mileage car, I didn't hear you mention it?
@jeffbrown58202 жыл бұрын
I've been told that they still had so many 1969's that hadn't been sold that they put off
@jeffbrown58202 жыл бұрын
the 1970's till the middle of the year.
@SolamenteVees2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is the 1970 F-body was delayed because of issues with quarter panels…
@erichite48712 жыл бұрын
@@SolamenteVees thats correct. Fisher Body struggled to get the casting dies right which caused the panels to rip.
@kevinfalkner16242 жыл бұрын
The late 70s Camero's had very low hp but remember under the hood is a small block Chevy,, which is like buying a beginner Lego kit,, there's nothing you can't make with add on kits.
@steveferguson68092 жыл бұрын
It's Camaro , not CamEro
@reidgilker45272 жыл бұрын
They had low production numbers because the second Gen Camaro came out half way through the year in 1970 and they were known as the 70&1/2 Camaro's
@emerymartin8472 жыл бұрын
I believe if That was an original 1970 Z28 350 engine it would have angle plug heads and that's the only year they offered it like that. I believe they were called bow tie heads. Does anyone know 100% sure if I'm correct with this
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Жыл бұрын
Angle plug heads were never offered on a production car . They came out around '72 , the Bowtie heads were much later .
@ancientheart25322 жыл бұрын
Never liked T handle shifters. Give me a big ol' ball any day.
@raullopez74392 жыл бұрын
My car is 4 speed too and I think is the same color
@1962mrmongoman2 жыл бұрын
no angle plug head
@johnpena91652 жыл бұрын
You could only get those over the counter at the dealership they never came out on a production car !
@danmyers93722 жыл бұрын
The 1970 Z28 Camaro had one major similarity with the 1971 Boss 351 Mustang. Both had larger and more powerful engines than their predecessors and both initially put off buyers with their huge styling changes. The big difference is that the Camaro styling grew on people. Especially after people drove the Camaro and realized how much the handling had been improved on the first gen Camaro. The Mustang? Not so much. The styling remained polarizing and the car was too heavy and the handling was pretty far behind the Camaro.
@christopherlastname76382 жыл бұрын
Just change that bumper to split and that car is T&A
@comebackkid39312 жыл бұрын
Sorry just my opinion and I know but I like the 67-69
@dennisbrill60872 жыл бұрын
That is not the color of the wheels. When it came out they did not come out in that color. They came out in the of a gray dark they didn’t come out with black lacquer mountain bike.
@sheriperry972111 ай бұрын
I just want to put a car to go around people all of a time
@emilianozapata81852 жыл бұрын
Steve this 70 is not correct, it's lacking the split bumpers and angle sparkplug heads.
@ricktempleton34152 жыл бұрын
Split bumpers were rs option
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Жыл бұрын
Angle plug heads were never offered on a production car , only available over the parts counter .
@jimbo32142 жыл бұрын
Power steering pump took away 10 hp. Wow.
@michaelratliff94492 жыл бұрын
Factory color or not..it's Awful ..Its..sh.t brown??..YUCK
@mccusker38112 жыл бұрын
I never liked the looks of this camaro it looked ugly
@melrose92522 жыл бұрын
Opinions are like A-holes, everyone has one.
@milojanis49012 жыл бұрын
See much??? Had an eye exam? Get one!!!
@Slimjim260 Жыл бұрын
The first year of the ugliest Camaro made, just a butt ugly body design