1970 Dodge Challenger RT HEMI vs 1969 Chevy Nova SS396 | STOCK DRAG RACE

1970 Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi vs 1969 Chevrolet Nova Super Sport. PURE STOCK MUSCLE CAR DRAG RACE. FACTORY STOCK DRAG RACE.
First car is a 1970 Dodge Challenger RT. The other a 1969 Chevrolet Nova SS. The Challenger R/T has a 426 Hemi V8, while the Nova has a L78 396 V8. The 426 hemi was rated 425 horsepower, and the L78 396 was rated 375 horsepower. The 1970 Challenger has a 4-speed manual transmission. The 1969 Chevy Nova has a TH400 3-speed automatic transmission. Rear gearing in the Nova is 4.10, while the Challenger Hemi has a much more conservative 3.54. The Challenger R/T hemi is heavy, coming in at 4078 pounds including the driver. The Nova is much lighter, weighing 3620 pounds with driver included. There were only 287 R/T hemi challengers produced in 1970, and only 1411 total automatic equipped L78 Novas in 1969. Car Crafted tested a '70 hemi challenger with a 4-speed and 4.10 gears and it ran 13.10 seconds @ 107.12 mph. Hot Rod tested a L78 Nova in 1969 and it ran 13.87 seconds @ 105.14 mph with a set of 3.55 rear gears.
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race (PSMCDR). FAST Factory Appearing Stock Tire factory stock. Super Car Drag Race.
Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website: www.psmcdr.com
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines -CR 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
Disclaimer: The Cars And Zebras KZbin channel is a news channel bringing results/news of drag racing with added history of automobiles. All footage/pictures used were either captured by the Cars And Zebras channel, or used for critique purposes under Fair Use.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Who is taking home the win in this monster of a race??? Leave a comment!

[@matthewcromwell1969]

To bad the nova kept lifting off of it at the end of both races. Probably a 12.7 car if he holds it down all the way.

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

I'm with you I love all muscle cars I used to own the 442 68 and right now I own a 1966 barracuda it's a four-speed 273 four barrel formula s 8 and 3/4 rear not fast but drives good

[@1967davethewave]

Back in 1995 I almost bought a '70 Hemi Challenger that was almost identical to the car in this video. It was a 4 speed, blue on blue but had a regular R/T hood. It was in really nice shape and they wanted $10k for it. I bought a 70 Corvette with a 454, 4 speed and 3.70 gears instead. It was $11k. To this day one of my biggest mistakes, well that and wives #1 and #2.

[@freedomwon2004]

Agreed 👍 wives #1 & #2 .....money pit.

[@josephnewcomb5670]

Wives are bigger money pits than the muscle cars lol

[@rogerodle8750]

And selling the Corvette... unless you still have it.

[@chevyblue10]

That would have been a hard choice to make back then. I'd of had to buy the Challenger. But you didn't do too bad...with cars I mean.

[@1967davethewave]

@@chevyblue10 I had the Corvette bug. But after owning one, I'll never own another. Well maybe a '67 roadster, lol. But I currently have a 70 Challenger R/T although just a 383 car. If I could go back though I would make the better choice!

[@geraldlafleur7776]

Ya, that gearing really held the Challenger back, and a 4,000 lb weight. Those Nova 396 were the weapon of choice for the street racing crowd when I was in high school. That L78 had all the good stuff from the factory. Obviously this one is easily capable of running in the 12's since he was backpedaling so bad at the end.

[@markw6265]

I give the hemi owner alot of credit for thrashing on his 6 figure car, but that L78 was just playing with him.

[@larryharry7221]

My thoughts exactly. Glad to see him using the car

[@scottblake7695]

I've always known that the L78 was a Hemi killer. Mopar guys hate that and usually are in total denial.

[@darrinjones5951]

@@scottblake7695 You are right! the 396 Novas with a little tuning and low gears like this one. There are hard to beat

[@CarEnthusiastForever]

440 six pack big block would handle the 396….

[@darrinjones5951]

@@CarEnthusiastForever Maybe a 325 or 350 Horse 396 But would not touch a 375hp 396 I been going to the track and street racing for 35 years

[@chriswells1440]

I remember around 1985 my step dads ex-wife had a silver 69 Nova 396 4 spd. I'd see her driving it around not taking care of it. She trade it for a riding lawnmower because her grass was tall. That's when kids rode bicycles all over the place with other kids.

[@carpartsink4577]

One of the faster cars back in the late 70's, in my home town, was a beat up Nova. It wasn't pretty, real sleeper, that beat a lot of expensive muscle cars in it's day

[@charlesdalton985]

That Nova is a real Q-Ship, even with the L78, it’s still a sleeper. Hemi laid down some true numbers. I can’t write it enough - thank you! These are funny, entertaining, and I greatly enjoy the racing. 🌮 🌮

[@dpc69ss79]

I love Novas. My first car was a 72 Nova with a built 400 SBC.

[@jamescalvin902]

C&Z, thanks for your postings. Humor, nostalgia, and the best from Detroit's golden era are welcome distractions from our current madness.

[@livewire2759]

1965 Corvette L78 - 425 hp Chevelle, Nova, etc... L78 - 375 hp The only difference was exhaust manifolds which weren't even on the engines when tested. Anyone who believes what GM told us back then about hp ratings is naive to say the least.

[@1badhaircut]

Everyone knew - some cars were rated at 5,000 that peaked at over 6,000.

[@danmyers9372]

@@1badhaircut - Yep, that was a common practice back then. Rate the HP at a lower than peak RPM to keep insurance rates down.

[@louiskats5116]

Finally someone has mentioned the 1965 L78 @ 425 Hp then the 1966 L78 @ 375 Hp. From all the research I can muster the difference was the profile of the cam shaft. 1965 was a solid lift cam 1966 was a hydraulic cam Not sure on the cfm on the carby. But you tell me you don't gain 50 hp just from a cam. If anyone has more info it would be greatly appreciated. Don't forget you can get the 425 Hp L78 in the Impala as well. Cheers Louis 👍

[@BBBILLY86]

@@louiskats5116 375 HP at 5600 rpm rating and the transmission is programmed to shift at 6500. Easy to see where the 50 hp are coming from. Rev it!!

[@louiskats5116]

@@BBBILLY86 So Bill you are telling me the higher HP is in the rev range. I will check that out. Thank you. Am I right regarding the cam ? Very hard to find any info regarding the 2 different L78. Greatly appreciate you responding. Cheers Louis 👍

[@mrho4speed]

Always loved the Nova and that L78 engine is putting out more than 375 horses!

[@howabouthetruth2157]

He just said in the video how that one shop dyno'd a 396 L78, and it produced 425 hp.

[@doomman700]

The key to factory rating is rpm it’s rated at. Many would spin way past it and make more hp doing it

[@howabouthetruth2157]

@@doomman700 Exactly.

[@BBBILLY86]

@@doomman700 Heck yea! 396 and 427 big blocks love to rev

[@gordthor5351]

@@howabouthetruth2157 Yeah, but they tweaked it. The hemi put out closer to 500HP tuned. None the less those 396s were fast. There are low 12 second 340 Dusters in this "stock" (tuned) class. I thought the Duster got out of the hole quick, but considering the much lower trap speed, the Nova launches well. Look at the weight transfer on the Nova. I don't know how much they can play with the suspension in this class, but the Nova owner seemed to have his dialed in.

[@johndeeregreen4592]

I had a 396ci Nova years ago, it takes very little work to get them into the high 11s. I love Mopars, but the Nova's weight makes them hard to beat -- literally and figuratively -- with a big block.

[@philipmazzuca2269]

John Deere- exactly

[@larryroberts4984]

I put a clutch in one of those novas back in the 70s. When i test drove it the car was uncontrollable if you tryed pounding the gears.

[@rickbullock4331]

I think the Nova owner was sandbagging it, I think it’s got a lot more in it for sure. The Hemis were always ooohed and awed over back in the day ( I owned a ‘69 Charger with one) but they did have competition out there. The 396 375 h.p. engine was a beast. I think the engine that was in the Vette and rated 425 h.p. was actually the same engine. The real Chevy guys would know for sure.

[@P245Sig]

You're correct. Somebody (Hot Rod or Car Craft maybe?) built one using stock spec parts and it dynoed at 425 with cast iron manifolds on it. Headers and up 2 sizes on the main jets and it was between 450 and 460. Really nasty engine.

[@danielslocum7169]

any serious hemi owner who raced on the street would do the following: install 4.10 or 4.30 gears.headers,and higher lift camshaft. then he had at least 500 h.p. and would shift the elephant at 6500 rpm. thats how you make those giant ports and valves work as intended. then with good tires and suspension you could totally dominate the street. it was done that way on woodward ave in detroit and elsewhere for years. case closed.

[@calvinarmitage9199]

​@@danielslocum7169and would still lose to chevy

[@danielslocum7169]

dream on.@@calvinarmitage9199

[@dronl6192]

​​@@calvinarmitage9199and chevy loss new kia stinger and cherry tigo with small engine and 150 hp 😂😂😂

[@iggyfritz7150]

An ex-girlfriend of mine her brother won the Grand Nationals at Detroit Dragway with a 396 Nova had to hold the engine in place with turnbuckles because it kept breaking motor mounts.

[@missshikahgo]

This car was originally a 383 RT 4-speed. During the 2019 shootout, the poor Hemi was hurt. But at least we gave Jeff a good matchup, so he wasn’t racing alone! 🚙💨

[@danmyers9372]

Yeah, it did seem a little weak. Was not surprised the lighter Nova with the auto got out on the Challenger but was expecting more top end charge from the MOPAR.

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@danmyers9372 No one's talking about the 4.10 on the Chevy and its poor MPH??

[@SealofPerfection]

@@alexnutcasio936 The announcer did. The Nova clearly let off at the end. It's capable of a good bit more, obviously. And yeah, it's lighter and has 4.10's, but it's giving up 30 cubic inches, too.

[@tskraj3190]

@@SealofPerfection Its also giving up almost 165 lbs also. Those Hemis were weighing around 850 lbs.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@tskraj3190 The weight of the motor is figured into the weight of the car already though. So stated difference is the difference.

[@impala666]

My uncle had an L78 Nova SS 4 speed standard. He changed the rear end and put drag slicks on...easily a 12 second car and a big-time sleeper.

[@donaldhollums3278]

There ain’t much to be said for the newer Chevies, but I will always like the older ones. For this match the rat was stronger than the elephant!

[@goneflying140]

Ain't much to be said about the new Chevys? Have you driven a new Camaro or Corvette? I think there's alot to be said. The are Awesome!!

[@robertreighard1444]

Hahaha hahaha, beats just about everything on road courses and there's nothing to be said about them ? Hahaha ya 😅

[@goneflying140]

@@robertreighard1444 You are right!! I have a 2014 Stingray Z51. It's badass, and I have never lost a race in 2 years. I have bested both the hemi challengers and chargers, and some little 2 dr. BMW thought he was going to beat me into my lane before his lane ended. I destroyed him.

[@danielslocum7169]

wrong. the rat had a much better gear and pulled a lot less weight.the hemi was more powerfull.

[@jameskester7745]

@@danielslocum7169 I'm a chevy guy, but gears make all the difference in the world, and something tells me that 426 would of out ran the nova with 4:10 in back

[@danhillman4523]

That Nova is slammin. We had a 1970? Plain Jane Nova with a 350 and it was fast for a 2bbl one wheeler. It dog tracked like hell though after I drove it for a while.

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

Another Chevy spanks a mopar. I've always said that factory hemis were over rated. L78, L88, and ZL1 could all give em an ass whoopin'

[@blade-fpv9411]

They weren't overrated, they just weighed 500lbs heavier than anything else lol

[@timmotel5804]

Excellent. Two great cars. Love the Nova. Thanks. P.S. I miss the altitude and temperature at the drag strip that you previously have posted. Depending on the type of tires, the temperature can really make a difference in their traction performance. The "Summer Only" tires on my 2004 Z06 corvette, don't like cool road temps. Lousy traction.

[@gordocarbo]

Digging on both cars and the fact they are Driven Not Hidden!

[@ghaasl78]

That is one quick Nova. A lot to be said for a well tuned "puny" 396.

[@greyarea3804]

Loved my 67 chevell 396

[@milla698]

The 396 was awesome. The hemi was good but you had to know how to tune it

[@BBBILLY86]

Love my '70 Nova with a '66 396 and 4:10s.

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

Yeah, not too shabby for a "Truck" Engine, as I'm always told about the BBC,s.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Only quick because of the gear. Today, many 4 cylinder turbos will walk it and still get 35 mpg.

[@danmyers9372]

Would love to see a rematch with the Hemi repaired (owner said it was hurt in this 2019 matchup) and the 4.10 gear. Bet it would be super close. Both in the low 12’s.

[@OldGriz708]

Seriously? That's the best excuse he could come up with? It ran as predicted and the Nova driver was obviously lifting to get the sub 100mph trap times. Dodge boys can't respectably take an ass kicking with crying like little bitches.........sad

[@parkerwinkelman3007]

I'd like to see a rematch as well. I do think that the Challenger got screwed by its gearing in this race. Personally, I love the Nova, but I think even being 400 pounds heavier, the Challenger would put up a REAL fight.

[@missshikahgo]

@@OldGriz708 calm down sweetie! You should come out to the race and have some fun rather than speculate and be rude behind a keyboard. The Nova is fast, no doubt! We tore down the Hemi after the 2019 race, chased a bunch of problems, and were finally able to run it again last year. Hopefully, this year it’s faster! ✌🏼😘

[@rogerlairamore207]

@@OldGriz708 You’re right it’s kind of like when Ford cried to NASCAR car because Dodge was winning most races with their Hemi Daytona chargers in 1970 in that time Chevy wasn’t even in the running hardly at all and Ford got their way or they threatened to boycott and not participate in the 71 season So the Plymouth super bird and Daytona Charger was banned for the 1971 season with a hemi engine but they could run a small block engine

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@missshikahgo did they change the rear gear because that's what it seems to need.

[@csmith9839]

Can you say (SAND BAGING) the nova is clearly A 12 second car. Dude run your car give it its due

[@libertycosworth8675]

He was lifting (or braking with disconnected brake lights). Maybe did it out of sportsmanship to not embarrass the Hemi when he knew the hemi was having some engine issues? Just a guess, but clearly he was lifting or breaking. Car ran 12.3s at 112 in another race.

[@larrydenney6849]

Back in the day 70 Nova similar setup with L88 cam and 4:56 gears headers w/F60 14 tires Squeezed a 12.20 out of her

[@kennethray6408]

I love them both, I wouldn't mind having either one of them in my driveway, or better yet, both!! 😂😂

[@michaelhayden8626]

I like how the Studebaker guys are all parked next to each other. Gotta love the Step Children of hotrodding

[@buff6637]

Nice Cars! Thanks! GM guy here however I'd like to see how 4.10s presently in the Challenger worked out

[@missshikahgo]

We couldn’t get a good test on it last year, because the clutch broke. It ran 12.30s. We’ll let you know how it does this year once it’s sorted out!

[@buff6637]

@@missshikahgo Awesome!! Please do!☮🙏🌞🇺🇸

[@buff6637]

Love those old school street brawlers!!

[@danmyers9372]

@@missshikahgo - What was hurt on the Hemi at this race?

[@V8guy83]

Gotta go with the Nova but I am biased since I have one. Though not as nice as that one.

[@v.e.7236]

Something about those solid lifters that really allows you to squeeze the most out of an engine. I owned a '67 fastback Mustang that I put a 351C in and went a solid lifter cam and could not have been happier w/ a decision. That engine could/would wind out to 7500RPMs like nobody's business - I had to add a high pressure/high volume oil pump to keep it from spinning the mains - I had to replace the main bearings after a few high RPM runs w/ a standard pressure pump. Had to have my crank turned it was so badly worn. Experience is a great teacher.

[@srt8rocketship241]

I had a 67 GT Fastback but mine had the 390 4 speed with 390 sure grip. White with red striping. Also a 68 GT Fastback Torino. Also white. Beautiful cars$$$. Had alotta great Mopars as well. Wish I still had them all.$$$$$

[@v.e.7236]

@@srt8rocketship241 Amen! Would love to have that 'Stang back. We took those vehicles so much for granted; today you couldn't find the "junk" we drove and thrashed. lol

[@gordocarbo]

Agree!! Only a few musclecars I owned had hyd lifters. Rest were solid flat tappers or roller. Theres just no comparison...daily drivers on top of it. If anything the exh note interior/exterior sounds of the solid cant be beat.

[@1notgilty]

I used to like to show other muscle car owners the front of my Nova SS because otherwise they only saw the back of it.

[@henerygreen578]

that nova with a set of open headers roller cam 850 holly......into the elevens.......so much fun back in the day playing with these cars......

[@nerradnosnhoj5122]

If that Cuda got a refresh and some gears , put it against a 427 copo and lets see what happens , a few Novas had that 427 too

[@bobgrim9605]

A well sorted 426 Hemi Challenger 4spd should get into the 12's shifting at 6000+.

[@goneflying140]

Always loved the Nova.

[@kanadianbacon7733]

*"AWESOME MATCH 'N RACE !!"*

[@bruceallen6016]

Good race but I believe the Nova was sandbagging. Thumb up

[@Rick-fe8xn]

Cars I saw all the time as a kid, I wish I could get my hands on one

[@domcummins4148]

Both cars are gorgeous!!

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

Great channel. Glad I discovered it.

[@CarsAndZebras]

thanks for watching 🌮

[@travishall67]

I'm not a fan of Novas but that's a nice one.

[@brianmathew09]

puberty may help that

[@travishall67]

@@brianmathew09 Is that what your boyfriend told you? 🤣

[@MikeMarengo-qs4lt]

Those Novas were the ultimate sleeper car...

[@VG-iq8xq]

Of course we’re wondering what’s the Nova run if he doesn’t lift at the end? 12.70?

[@CarsAndZebras]

I’ve seen it run 12.3

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@CarsAndZebras, those trap speeds versus ET definitely shows he was sandbagging BAD in those two races.

[@libertycosworth8675]

@@johndeeregreen4592 112 when not obviously lifting.

[@gordocarbo]

@@CarsAndZebras Dam thats moving for what it is!! No matter the ET I love the 70 Challenger just a stylish mean looking mofo. 67 and 70 best looking yrs for any brand musclecar.

[@StepDownPalaandFTF110]

1969 Chevrolet Nova is my most favorite Chevrolet car ethier that or the 71 Monte Carlo

[@no-fb9gl]

DAT IS A BEAUTIFUL BLUE DODGE!!! BADASS, MAN!!!

[@68dart]

Awesome , Thanks C&Z

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍

[@mohamhead9701]

Rat motor rules

[@TrinityDestroyer]

I like the Nova, it’s a good looking car. My dad hates Novas, but that’s because when and where he was growing up, every asshole drove a Nova.

[@bbkingwasthegreatest711]

Great vid again it does show what the right gearing can do though.

[@michaelbaumgardner2530]

The L78 was no joke, nethier was the hemi been on a few hell rides in both.

[@robertholle5599]

My brother purchased a 69 1/2 Nova with the LT1 330(?) Horsepressure . Factory shift kit, hi stall torque converter, not sure what the differential was. That car was a rocket!! Unfortunately,less than a year into ownership,he smacked it up. I almost cried to see the 'car' In the back lot of Dangerfield motors. I guess like Rodney, my brother had no respect for the awesome machine he was commanding. RIP 69 1/2 Nova. 😓

[@srt8rocketship241]

Happy for the Chevy camp. Check out cars and zebras 69 ZL1 vs 71 Hemi Cuda to see how a stronger Mopar stacked up against an aluminum block 427.

[@MrYukon04]

I really wish they would do these same videos with even matched vehicle's

[@gordocarbo]

They both run 12.30s no way to match even vehicles who knows how they could run going all out

[@MrYukon04]

@@gordocarbo very easy to match vehicles you take out weight or you add weight you have the same amount of gas and the same gear ratio everything's been done many times

[@hobartw9770]

That Nova was in it to win it.

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

Great vid!! 👍👍👍

[@chadhosmer9357]

Put 4.10 gears in that Challenger then see what happens!

[@mikeponce1983]

Agreed

[@DwJ5188]

Nice cars.. I'd like to see that nova up against a Dart.. same weight class

[@calvinarmitage9199]

Same results

[@garrettnemitz6017]

I'm gonna go ahead and say it. Michigan absolutely isn't sunny and t-shirt weather currently. It's nippy here at Northern Michigan Dragway.

[@garrettnemitz6017]

I just got to the "this is old footage" whoops

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

Mopar Don't Go Far !!!

[@The_Huntmaster]

I'm going to hit the brakes and he'll fly right by. Nice race C&Z.

[@PrixRolls]

Mid Michigan Motorplex🤙 awesome track

[@toddburgess6792]

No replacement for displacement, unless you get gears and weight involved. :-)

[@rogerlairamore207]

The Challenger would beat the Nova in a 3/8’s mile

[@Brykk]

These novas are my favorite cars of all time.

[@TeamCarcaine]

Cool stuff

[@rogerodle8750]

I would totally buy merch from you... if you had any.

[@dantegmo]

If that Nova gets traction could be close. mmmm I’m going to go with Nova on this one with it running it down on the top end.

[@CarsAndZebras]

We’ll see!

[@dantegmo]

@@CarsAndZebras That Nova is quick!

[@johnwilkerson2195]

I'm a Mopar man but I do like those 68' thru 72' Novas

[@Spunky-iq8jm]

Weight and gearing is the deciding factor.

[@steelpenguin1]

Gearing is the only issue. 4:10 gears and the Challenger wins.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@steelpenguin1 Wrong. Gears don't make that much difference. Plus, the Nova was severely sandbagging, if you'll notice the MPH. It runs low 12's if he stays in it all the way through, and then your gears and 400lbs still don't make up the difference. Plus, I notice you all forget the Mopar has 30 more cubes.

[@user-yv1bf4rx7r]

@@SealofPerfection The challenger has more power, the Nova has less weight. Balanced. This would be a good race if both cars were automatic and had the same gearing.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@user-yv1bf4rx7r Remember, the Nova was sandbagging a lot to make it close. It runs low 12's if he runs it all the way through. There's really just not a scenario where the Dodge can win this one, I'm afraid. Nova's combo is just too good.

[@scrappyjunk8793]

in 1970 saturday night the L78 was but the yes studebaker 289 paxton super-charger would show up and the L78 would grenade in the quarter the stud was the fastest production car of its time

[@chevyblue10]

This is my kind of racing! Drooling over both cars and don't care which wins! C&Z, you have the best drags on KZbin. I don't know why you quit with the jokes. They are what made your uploads so great! If it was because of lame brains putting you down about it, cowboy up, grow a new layer of skin and BRING BACK THE FUNNY STUFF, PLEASE!!! Screw the naysayers. There's plenty of boring channels they can go watch. You have a great talent, editing these videos with the weirdest shit imaginable. It's like having a acid flashback. Sometimes I think it brings on the flashbacks. We all need your kind of humor...moreso now than ever. Takes our minds off how bad things suck with Kodachrome and Brandon.

[@gordocarbo]

Cause theres too many wussies complaining about humor.

[@kimmorrison9169]

Not surprised. L78 Camaros/Novas are quick and lightweight. If the Challenger was “hurt” I for one want to see the rematch!

[@OldGriz708]

It would turn out the same since the Nova was lifting big time, just look at the trap speeds.

[@kimmorrison9169]

yep thats true

[@no-fb9gl]

DAT NOVA'S BADASS 2!!!

[@zxtenn]

That Nova had a LOW trap speed for some reason, should be about 105, i had a 67 RS Camaro with a 427/425 with 456 gears and a 4 speed and i was running 110 with a CRAP 780.

[@darrinjones5951]

Nova out of the throttle at the end

[@louiskats5116]

Goodday C & Z As much as I love a Mopar, you can't ignore power to weight ratio. Those L78 were better than 375 Hp more like 405 Hp. Still 13's is quick in anyone's language. Stay safe Stay warm Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

[@johnsheetz6639]

I believe with the more rare cars most of the time they don't want to do legal mods. on an OG hemi. They want the OG parts to stay.

[@gordocarbo]

They cant do very much, those Hemis are super hard to hurt. Stock bottom ends can take quite a bit

[@johnsheetz6639]

With driver. Could be 150 or tree fiddy. More or less. Shout out to the Challenger for consistent stick shift ets

[@RobertRoach-pt2bi]

You can never take these races as gospel! A tuned Hemi will eat that Nova! Or, Chevy guys you wanna take on a 340? Eat it!!

[@gordocarbo]

340s werent that fast out of the box. Guarantee that hemi was tuned too Both cars have run 12.30s

[@CamaroZ-cr9bo]

It does get better for that Mopar!! 440 Six Pack was the best Mopar 1/4 mile monster!!

[@gordocarbo]

Actually the Hemi was better...440 is great on the st though

[@mitchf1508]

Gotta give the Challenger guy some credit for taking his, at least, 6 figure Hemi down the drag strip! He "wins" on the cool factor, but that Nova is pretty cool too! Back in Highschool in the early 80's there were no less than 5 guys with Nova's in the school's parking lot! You know with the big 'n little Crager S/S mags and side pipes.. That was "IT" back in the day!

[@mikeadcock1592]

These match ups are really cool, but that's the problem with them, these cars are worth so much now, that a lot of the owners will take them down the track, but they are far from beating the daylights out of them like we did when we were teenagers. Not just this particular car, but a lot of cars of all makes.

[@missshikahgo]

@@mikeadcock1592 well you better call protective services, because this car is being abused on and off the track! 🤣

[@marinegunny826]

Nova definitely had him out of the hole and the challenger ran out of track trying to catch up. Wonder how 411gears would have fared?

[@SealofPerfection]

Wouldn't have mattered. The Nova was sandbagging at the end and is clearly much faster if he stays in it all the way through. There's not a big a jump from 3.54 to 4.10's as some folks think. It might have made a tenth, tenth and a half difference in the time. That's about it.

[@marinegunny826]

@@SealofPerfection I hear ya! Never realized how much of a weight problem the challengers had. Those chicks need to go on a diet!

[@ripvanrevs]

Taunting penalty.

[@frankcuoco1501]

The Tesla plaid is a 5000lb boat too but with 1000hp😁

[@gordocarbo]

So what? Heavy boat with 0 soul and boring as hell to drive.

[@treaverbombard3398]

I currently owne a AAR Cuda and a 65 Coronet with a max wedge cross ram but I'm not really a Mopar guy my opinion Mopars are so over rated if they are not well tuned they fall there charging system is crap and most of the interiors are made with cheap plastic Chevy's you can beat the crap out of them and they still bring home the win Chevy all the way

[@63MacGuy]

This one surprised me.

[@90daysinvegas53]

Hello, question to whomever can answer it. What is the top speed of an old school 426 Hemi with 3.23 or 3.55 gears?.. Verses an old school 426 Hemi with 4.10 gears???

[@user-vl3kk9pn1y]

No doubt Nova’s can handle Hemi cars

[@anthonypesqueira7540]

If you pulled up to an L78 nova amd tried to race it, chances were, you were losing right out of the gate and weren't catching it.

[@ronaldhagadorn5512]

Cant say it enough! Keep talking!!😎

[@rjmzz430]

Not sure why the nova didn't pull a higher mph in the quarter figured it would be good for 105 to 109 mph!

[@SpideySenses-gb9gi]

I BELIEVE THE NOVA DIDN'T PULL A HIGHER MPH BECAUSE OF THE 4:10 - 1 GEAR IT GOT OUT OF THE HOLE FASTER BUT ON THE TOP END THAT NOVAS RPM WAS PROBABLY 7000 RPM PLUS .

[@libertycosworth8675]

@@SpideySenses-gb9gi In a previous race, the Nova ran 12.3 @ 112. Driver was either lifting or braking (with brake lights disconnected) on the big end.

[@jonathanduke8295]

Keep sending videos 😸😸

[@frankhartnett895]

It would have been nice to see that nova actually run instead of playing games let us see what you can do I’m real happy you felt like had it covered easily some of us would still like to see what it would have ran if you stayed on it through the traps

[@gordocarbo]

12.3 112

[@johncronin5311]

I think if this was a latter 60s version of the hemi , things may have been a little diffrent, anything 70 and up , I take with a grain of salt

[@bradleblanc2336]

Pretty sure a 340 duster would have been a closer race for the Nova, this wasnt even close!

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

Most 340's ran low 14's

[@peteprizzi8508]

The "396" engine was ahead of it's time. The Dodge or Plymouth 426,440 wedge + the 426 Hemi's are dinosaur engines.It's a long way from the "Little Ole' Lady From Pasadena".

[@rockyjonesspacecadet7089]

My 68 R/T440 mag. smoked many 396 back then lost to an LS6.

[@74beeper97]

Zero farts given

[@sabba_dabba8649]

OMG, that Nova is out of control

[@yamatodamashii1179]

Yes! Sucked when it smashed into the wall

[@sabba_dabba8649]

@@yamatodamashii1179 did it really? I was just being exclamatory about it being so fast when saying it is out of controll

[@a.k.a.A.E.]

hemi cars like this have one or two 4 barrel carbs ?? when all 426 hemis have 2 four barrel carbs the must have the engine 400 hp ??? or have all 426 hemis 425 hp and with 2 four barrel around 450 ????

[@bigthunder2860]

I love HIMIS AND CALLENGER