1970 Plymouth HEMI Cuda vs 1969 Pontiac GTO Ram Air IV | PURE STOCK DRAG RACE

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Cars And Zebras

Cars And Zebras

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@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Get ready for 2 unbelievable cars! 👍
@usasidekicks2568
@usasidekicks2568 3 жыл бұрын
I owned the same kind 69 Goat in the early 80s. Bought it for $800.00 primered with a black vinyl top blue interior Ram Air 400 Turbo 400 and factory rally wheels. It got up and went and kept on going! The sweet spot was the way it pulled hard from 40 to about 100 with gobs of torque. I miss that car I really do
@mrnobody3161
@mrnobody3161 2 жыл бұрын
In Highscool I had a 1970 Monte Carlo 400 cu inch Turbo Jet sml blk V8 with highway 🛣 gears ⚙. Buried the needle many times driving to the mountains ⛰ to 🎿and 🚶‍♂️. The Stupidity of youth, good times.
@andysteele4056
@andysteele4056 3 жыл бұрын
I usually just roll my eyes at the jokes, but the Charmin Bears thing had me laughing out loud by myself for a while. Good one.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
eye roll = win for CZ
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 3 жыл бұрын
The cornball stuff is what I love most about CZ. It's what separates CZ from all the others.
@damienreilly8061
@damienreilly8061 3 жыл бұрын
They are consistent, damn near identical runs all three times except for the GTO spinning on the 3rd race. Great races and really great cars! 🇺🇲🤙
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@bigthunder2860
@bigthunder2860 3 жыл бұрын
The HIMIS make power on top end
@wtdonovan
@wtdonovan 11 ай бұрын
How the hell did I miss this installment? This is so pure!
@puddleduckist
@puddleduckist 3 жыл бұрын
Both very cool cars, i own a 69 gto with a 455. Although the ram air 4's ran good the hemi was more powerful and not really a fair race in my opinion. But the gto still ran very strong.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 5 ай бұрын
Or the Cuda didn't. The 426 should have eaten that 400 GTO for lunch!
@karlepaul6632
@karlepaul6632 2 ай бұрын
​@@LoulovesspeedHow could you say that? NEITHER was stock.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
@@karlepaul6632 Uhhhhh, guess you missed the title of this video.../PURE STOCK DRAG RACE! Factory Stock Drag Race. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race! How many times do you have to see it? 😴
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 2 ай бұрын
These cars were both prepped for drag strip. Do they adhere to Pure stock rules?-YES, have they been prepared within an inch of their lives WITHIN THE PS RULES=YES!!!
@marioncobaretti2280
@marioncobaretti2280 2 ай бұрын
Close enough to matter
@jayschmahl9206
@jayschmahl9206 3 жыл бұрын
Great race and two incredible machines. I grew up in a family that drove Ford's, GM's, and Mopar's and the Mopar's will alway's be my first love. Back in 1973 one of my neighbor's drove a lemon twist Hemi 'Cuda...Lucky Bastard!
@samhaines8228
@samhaines8228 3 жыл бұрын
love these match-ups! great cars, run like they came from the dealership (very close to that anyway). Kudos to the owners, the event organizers and of course to the Zebra for these awesome videos!!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
@63MacGuy
@63MacGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I LOVE the finish line replay. I love GTOs but there’re not going to beat that Hemi.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
👍😎
@kennycamaro2361
@kennycamaro2361 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the Hemi… usually
@garybattaglia4009
@garybattaglia4009 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I will ever look at a Pastrami sandwich the same way again....
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
And you shouldn’t
@Wilson-cp4gx
@Wilson-cp4gx 3 жыл бұрын
I love the channel. The Poncho was 3 tenths faster than I expected, but you would expect high 11’s from a street hemi.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Both impressive 👍
@Dogboy1960
@Dogboy1960 4 ай бұрын
No you wouldn't. No stock issue "street hemi" was even remotely close to that fast. One interesting piece of the rules for this class is found in how racers must keep most things pretty close to stock yet they do have a lot of latitude concerning Compression. Allowed to go a full 1.5points over stock. That's a BIG DEAL for a "Street Hemi". With it's race specific head design these engines gave away a lot in the lower RPM range. That extra compression makes a big difference for the middle of the torque curve in the Street Hemi. The rules posted allow you a higher stall speed converter in the 727 3 speed......again another big advantage for a Hemi that makes most of it's usable power above 4,000RPM. The sooner it can get there the better for times. On better than available street tires from back in 1970 I'd expect a low 13 easily drops into the mid to high 12s.......getting down to high 11 as seen here......gotta imagine this racer is taking full advantage of rules allowing him to up that compression to 12:1 and he's probably running all of the allowed converter stall and probably grabbing as manyof the few extra cubic inches an over bore, within the rules will allow as well. Don't let anyone tell you those are stock issue intakes, heads or exhaust manifolds either. The fastest Racers in this class know all the tricks concerning porting and removing material inside for way more flow than the stock exterior suggests. Getting a low 13sec Hemi Cuda into the high 12s isn't a big effort. Getting it into the high 11s WITHOUT headers, slicks and a lot more cam........that's the Herculean effort that is pretty awesome and big part of why I'd never say, "high 11s are what you would expect from a street hemi". This racer knows his car and his stuff. He's punching way above his weight with this car and what I'd have expected.
@davidbattaglia2336
@davidbattaglia2336 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate both those cars and drivers. But I REALLY appreciate your astute observation with regards to the Charmin Bears. They’ve been outted!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Those dirty, dirty bears
@davidbattaglia2336
@davidbattaglia2336 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras They edited that part out of the Goldilocks story. Or at least it was in Book 2: Goldilocks and the Poo-Playing Bears
@aschuppe
@aschuppe 3 жыл бұрын
Great races! Unbelievably consistent! Those are two beautiful cars, first gen real top of the line muscle cars.
@archiebunker6059
@archiebunker6059 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, that's a Royal Pontiac, that's why he was right on the heels of the Mopar 👍💪
@TheKillerMarine
@TheKillerMarine 3 жыл бұрын
Still lost GM was taking the L way back then like they do today
@archiebunker6059
@archiebunker6059 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheKillerMarine Chevrolet has won more motorsports races than any manufacturer in the world.
@CaptainFALKEN
@CaptainFALKEN 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Ford went in to Le Mans, something new to them, won four years in a row and then left like it was nothing.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you join the “stock appearing drag racers” group on Facebook to support the owners of these cars!
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 3 жыл бұрын
I went for the first time this year, and although I found the collection of classic muscle in action amazing…I was quite disappointed and unsuccessful in locating the great Zebra faced one.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
I was there, but I’m very sneaky. You probably recognize this matchup from this year.
@srt8rocketship241
@srt8rocketship241 3 жыл бұрын
Damn great old school muscle. Cuda looks cool but i want either one.
@ronnietippett1075
@ronnietippett1075 2 жыл бұрын
surprized how good of run the underdog Pontiac gave the big bad Hemi great race
@plymouthdie-castreplicas
@plymouthdie-castreplicas 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible times... Totally love the '70 Hemi 'Cuda. The king of Mopars!
@sergiojacquez2277
@sergiojacquez2277 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Cuda, but my favorite Mopar is a 69 roadrunner
@plymouthdie-castreplicas
@plymouthdie-castreplicas 3 жыл бұрын
@@sergiojacquez2277 Great taste, sir. The '69 model year RR is the most badass! Mainly the A12 version.
@scrapplepig
@scrapplepig 3 ай бұрын
My car would be 70 or 71 Challenger, very close to the Cuda.
@plymouthdie-castreplicas
@plymouthdie-castreplicas 3 ай бұрын
@@scrapplepig Yes, they are siblings. Love these cars♥
@brianr5665
@brianr5665 Жыл бұрын
Both beautiful cars. Kind of expected the outcome. But all an all an awesome race! Glad to be able to see it.
@68dart
@68dart 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome , No surprise here , Thanks C&Z
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@deebo47
@deebo47 3 жыл бұрын
Great race! Thanks C&Z!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@alainverse33
@alainverse33 3 жыл бұрын
Comment des voitures de 50 ans arrivent encore à nous faire autant rêver ? Il y a du génie dans ces bagnoles assurément 😉👍 J'ai un Ram Hemi 2004 et déjà, je kiffe alors j'imagine même pas ces bijoux😍
@charlesdalton985
@charlesdalton985 3 жыл бұрын
Another very close one on paper. The stats, stock, put this tight. Let’s see who took better advantage of the rules and who is the better driver. I’m going to go with the Cuda, thinking the GTO might be too steep in gearing. What the heck, it’s a guess. Looking forward to this one,. As always, thank you 🌮 🌮
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@charlesdalton985
@charlesdalton985 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras Great race - as consistent as those times were, both drivers know their cars. Thanks again.
@mjs28s
@mjs28s 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what they look like on paper. These are not 'as produced' else they would be running in the 14's or maybe high 13s if lucky.
@69Dartman
@69Dartman 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjs28s True, but none of the cars stayed factory stock for long if the owners were playing with their cars. There are cheap and easy things you can do to any car if you know your car well and it goes up from there if you have the money and just want to go fast. Both those cars were super consistent.
@spaceflight1019
@spaceflight1019 3 жыл бұрын
Just guessing, but the biggest change is that neither car is running OEM tires. The Cuda ran on Goodyear Polyglas bias-ply tires while the Goat ran on Uniroyal Tiger Paws bias-ply tires. The first item on the go-fast list back then was a set of wider cheater slicks.
@jangofett8210
@jangofett8210 3 жыл бұрын
That intro is fire. Reminds me of something😏😏
@Pledgeman
@Pledgeman 2 ай бұрын
Love those Cudas
@davidpayne2703
@davidpayne2703 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You C & Z - Luv that Tor-Red Cuda
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Very close. Love um both. Thanks
@ThomasFlipse
@ThomasFlipse 2 ай бұрын
Wow. Great race. Doesn't get any more competitive than that. ❤❤❤
@stephenwilkinson8396
@stephenwilkinson8396 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely AWESOME !!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@leonardwashington9997
@leonardwashington9997 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day..real muscle 💪 Cars keep on bringing them back👍!!
@calebrose4607
@calebrose4607 3 жыл бұрын
these two cars seem very consistent in the quarter mile, both running high 11s and low 12s. that's pretty quick
@1563smb
@1563smb 3 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome race for sure both cars are way cool.
@lilredexptsc
@lilredexptsc 3 жыл бұрын
My god that intro killed me. You just get better and better my guy.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to pick up on it…. or maybe nobody is willing to admit they recognize it 😁
@67GTV
@67GTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras Cudos on the upgraded video editing, C&Z! Your humor always cracks me up. Those non-narated videos seem so empty. The finish line camera is a great add-on! Can that cameraman stand closr to the finish? It would be great to see them cross at the line. Regardless, I am no longer squinting to see the finish line. 😀🤘🍀 67GTV
@spartynation7021
@spartynation7021 3 жыл бұрын
Wow the pure stock guy's got there S''t together. These cars are approaching 'super stock' style performance only on street tires. Kudos on the vid.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@louiskats5116
@louiskats5116 3 жыл бұрын
Goodday C & Z, Absolutely awesome, the old saying " It takes a Mopar to catch a Mopar ". The Goat tried & man low 12's is extremely respectable but a Hemi good try. Regardless of the outcome, awesome muscle cars to admire all the same. Dig the finish line camera work fantastic intresting how much of a distance less than a half second is. You are talk a car length. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely interesting! Thanks for watching!
@southbound1969
@southbound1969 3 жыл бұрын
CRIKEY!
@awalk56
@awalk56 3 жыл бұрын
Delighted your narrative is back.
@allanwhite9716
@allanwhite9716 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea adding a camera down by the finish line.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@policeofficer94
@policeofficer94 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS!!! You make me so happy C&Z!!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@131601
@131601 4 ай бұрын
It’s unbelievable they actually run both those rare cars ! We thank them for it as well as the Zebra !
@mailiang1
@mailiang1 3 жыл бұрын
In the day, I ran a stock 67 Goat with the 3:55 rear, and a few tweaks, at Raceway Park, NJ. It did high 13's with traps around 105-107 mph. Nice et's, but those cars ain't exactly stock.
@charlesbear5867
@charlesbear5867 3 жыл бұрын
Had a 68 goat, ragtop with a 400 under the hood. Wish I still had it
@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene
@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my husband LOVES these videos, aside from the races, we love the jokes and evil laugh lol. (We sometimes skip it if it has a FoRd in it.)
@mannyr.2756
@mannyr.2756 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy that very much it was a really good match even though the Hemi had him on all three runs.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a good race!
@goneshootin61
@goneshootin61 3 жыл бұрын
Much better match up than the last video !
@illegalmachine
@illegalmachine 3 жыл бұрын
The PA guy said that's BK "Mr Six Pack". I was literally emailing with him last week about a cam for my 383 Super Bee!
@John1Brady
@John1Brady 3 жыл бұрын
Both these cars are very well "prepared"... they are FAST!
@haromaster6086
@haromaster6086 2 жыл бұрын
always entertaining. thank you
@randyrobey5643
@randyrobey5643 5 ай бұрын
It looked like the Pontiac driver had slightly quicker reaction times, but the Cuda was just a little faster.
@benkrom2737
@benkrom2737 3 жыл бұрын
After launch cars seemed to stay relatively same distance from each other. Definitely torque of the hemi won this race
@soldierski1669
@soldierski1669 3 жыл бұрын
The GTO is running essentially what it would off the dealership. The 426 is not.
@bdogjr7779
@bdogjr7779 3 жыл бұрын
SHAKER hood scoop let the HEMI breathe🔊🇺🇸
@jim-er8in
@jim-er8in 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Love the finish line replay so cool !!!!!
@willk.illyouii5583
@willk.illyouii5583 3 жыл бұрын
The hemi"s were also cantankerous, and the 440 was more reliable on the street.
@zubitron5
@zubitron5 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Hemi was a monster when properly prepared but it took more expertise than the normal person had.
@willk.illyouii5583
@willk.illyouii5583 3 жыл бұрын
@@zubitron5 the average idiot would blow up the original hemi showing off for his friends!!💔
@1badhaircut
@1badhaircut 3 жыл бұрын
@@zubitron5 My dad had several - the ‘66 did need some lifter adjustments but the later ones had zero issues. I’m guessing that modified and beat-on cars created that myth but from our experience- it was a friendly beast. The ONlY complaint was mpg but gas was cheap. Today, even Jay Leno complains - but that’s all for show.
@Y3nk0
@Y3nk0 3 жыл бұрын
'69 RAIV GTO = cream jean dream
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
😎
@SUMM3RY
@SUMM3RY 3 жыл бұрын
The gto is just BEAUTIFUL
@johnwilkerson2195
@johnwilkerson2195 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Mopar man but the Hemi ran better on the Nascar track in which it was designed for
@watchthetriple8224
@watchthetriple8224 3 жыл бұрын
Good racing!!!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a nice match-up!
@watchthetriple8224
@watchthetriple8224 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras glad the guys race them instead of making them garage queens. Enjoy the videos.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Not many on the roads now!
@johnwilkerson2195
@johnwilkerson2195 3 жыл бұрын
Very close race though
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a great race! 👍
@TheDatadrew
@TheDatadrew 3 жыл бұрын
It's just not enough to lose twice in your Pontiac.... 3rd time is the charm!
@ivanmarkovicxxx
@ivanmarkovicxxx 2 жыл бұрын
I am building a street 301T Pontiac stroker. As I understand, the 301T short-deck block was basically a retooled RA V 303 TA bottom end. I would love to come race it when it's done, but it's hardly stock any more. When I pop the hood however, it will look just like a stock 301 (with emissions removed), & shorty headers.
@dragginwagon406
@dragginwagon406 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.
@gary9426
@gary9426 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like a great matchup...should be pretty close!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
definitely an interesting race!
@davidbattaglia2336
@davidbattaglia2336 3 жыл бұрын
Love the looks of that GTO. Even as a kid, I loved the Pontiac nose. Family friends had a Tempest in the early 70's. Sweet looking car!
@wattsmichaele
@wattsmichaele 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and awesome. Thank you!
@PetrolheadAEHG
@PetrolheadAEHG 3 жыл бұрын
Is this 1/4 mile racing? I can't understand how both cars are over a second faster than in the original tests, but it's incredible to see them run so close, great video.
@paulplack490
@paulplack490 3 жыл бұрын
If the rules are the same as they were a few years ago, the Pure Stock riles allow overbores to .060 and compression increases of as much as 1.5 points. I assume it's to allow tolerances for rebuilds and milling heads/decks to get them flat, but there are obviously side benefits!
@Epik-hm8ws
@Epik-hm8ws 7 күн бұрын
And the track surface is basically glue, so that the polyglass tires can hook like never before
@PatrickSeanEarl
@PatrickSeanEarl 2 жыл бұрын
Now that was a nice match up
@jasonkrause6778
@jasonkrause6778 2 жыл бұрын
That GTO Gave that cuda a run for its money Both Outstanding Cars !!!
@kennycamaro2361
@kennycamaro2361 Жыл бұрын
Charming bears was killing me dude!
@CaptainFALKEN
@CaptainFALKEN 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao at the narration. Keep it up, man. This video is awesome
@jimwhite1061
@jimwhite1061 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know that 400 gto could run like that. Everyone knows those Elephant cars run good, but low 12s for that gto surprised me.
@johntempest267
@johntempest267 3 жыл бұрын
Looked to me as though the races were settled in the first 60 ft. Two awesome cars/drivers.
@mileswoods
@mileswoods 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 69 GTO the same color and i still miss it TODAY
@futon02
@futon02 3 жыл бұрын
Mr six pack has a hemi too???? JEALOUS. Great races by two of my favorite cars
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Yup 😎
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 3 жыл бұрын
You might be interested to know what a 426 Hemi actually made. Nick's Garage did a test on his 'Keeper' (which he sold LOL) and it was as OEM as a Hemi could possibly be in 2018/19 or whenever the motor was rebuilt. It had OEM exhaust manifolds, manifold pre heater flaps and piping, OEM distributor and Carter carbs, intake comp etc. All that wasn't OEM was the +.030" overbore. So it made 492 HP @ 5800rpm IIRC. This shows the potential of the stock Hemi. So 2, 1/8th primary tube 4 into 1 headers, the Vanke mod to the intake and a rejet would likely net you 80-100hp over stock. Then you could put a Racer Brown solid lifter flat tappet camshaft in it you could be sniffing at 600hp. The lowish factory power rating of them actually adds to the mystique.
@joebuzz2758
@joebuzz2758 3 жыл бұрын
Love all the commentary in these videos lol 😆 That damn bear! 🐻 🤣 😂
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 3 жыл бұрын
Great cars! Great racing. I'm extremely impressed with how well they ran. I watched it twice to try to find the cubic inches of the Pontiac. I'm a Mopar guy and am not familiar with specs on a ram air 4. 389? 421? 455 are my guesses, lol.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
400 cubic inches, briefly listed in the lower right corner 👍
@samhaines8228
@samhaines8228 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's 400 c.i.d.
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 3 жыл бұрын
@@samhaines8228 thanks guys! I guess I was too busy looking at the motor, lol. Obviously I don't know anything about Pontiacs, doh!
@samhaines8228
@samhaines8228 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrkemblegilstrap I don't know too much about Pontiac engines either to be honest. They seem to come in displacement sizes different from other GM manufacturers.
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 3 жыл бұрын
@@samhaines8228 I heard that! We had a 326(?), in a Catalina 2+2, back in the 60s. I'll never do a search on anything except Mopar because I don't want 100 million suggestions on cars I consider the "enemy ", lol
@jayrowe6473
@jayrowe6473 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd get Rick Rolled in a C&Z Video... or did I.
@jedzcutz8921
@jedzcutz8921 3 жыл бұрын
What we're looking at is about a quarter of a million worth of cars being driven the way they were designed....doesn't get any better!
@nealcausey9395
@nealcausey9395 Ай бұрын
I just noticed the zoom-in on the a Royal Bobcat decal on the door. If this car got the Royal Bobcat treatment, then that might explain how a Ram Air IV GTO nearly beat a Hemi. Ram Air IV was indeed a bad engine though 🔥
@2ndAmdmt
@2ndAmdmt Ай бұрын
Always wondered why Pontiac didn’t put those RAIV heads on the 428 or 455 block.
@dennisjoseph629
@dennisjoseph629 3 жыл бұрын
Rare with bench seat and column shift. Awesome..
@kevinmanning4880
@kevinmanning4880 3 жыл бұрын
Great race, both drivers are very consistent. The story about, "Blackbird" and "Silver Bullet". Black Bird did eventually beat Silver Bullet. The Ram Air V is something to be reproduced.
@jimhall5472
@jimhall5472 2 жыл бұрын
That Mopar is a beautiful beast!
@scott70707
@scott70707 3 жыл бұрын
Lets not kid ourselves,,,neither car is completely stock under the hood. Youre not going to recurve the dist and rejet the carb from stock and run 115 -117 mph.Stilll love the race though. Im a pontiac guy so I was happy to see the ETs and mph that close between the cars.
@johnnystafford1826
@johnnystafford1826 3 жыл бұрын
Both good drivers I would say, the times consistent. The Hemi just had a little more that day is all. The results could be different on another day. Damn good racing is what that is!
@GregZentTrumpetMan
@GregZentTrumpetMan 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, nfw those cars were running 115 and 117 in quarter with stock machines.
@matthewblank214
@matthewblank214 3 ай бұрын
That Ram Air lV is a true 445 hp motor with headers and that came from George Delorean himself,tough to beat on the street but the 428 with round ports heads was even better
@1badhaircut
@1badhaircut 3 жыл бұрын
A RamAir 5 455 was designed but never produced - probably because GM knew the party was over. It would have corrected inherent breathing limitation and given hemi-like power.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been interesting to see!
@bunk-bn9eo
@bunk-bn9eo 3 жыл бұрын
The parts are out there for the V. The real issue for the V was for it to really get the most out of it - it needed more cid's. We're talking close to 500 cid to really get it to breath. 455 was the most they had to play with - and yes, the timing was terrible with the 70's closing in. There is a 69 GTO out there with a RA V. Look around on KZbin or Google.
@soldierski1669
@soldierski1669 3 жыл бұрын
GM never liked PMD beating up Chevy. They took away the tripower (but not chevy) they refused the motor redesign (SD) and limited Forged Rods. The "V" would have been just better than the 4 in power, only way to make it "friendly" would be to de-tune it, those ports have no velocity at low rpms. At the point you start swinging 600+hp the rods come into play, after Forged rods you start knocking on the 850hp -ish limit if those blocks and that after snapping off lifter bores with high lift cams that support those heads. In the end, those heads needed the SD block..
@jimmeyer7632
@jimmeyer7632 2 ай бұрын
BOTH CARS ARE TOP OF THE LINE CARS GOOD MATCH UP
@steelpenguin1
@steelpenguin1 3 жыл бұрын
If you don’t get a jump on a 426 you can just forget it because they continue to walk other Muscle cars. Those Hemi’s loved to rev at high speeds. A 440-6 was actually faster off the line, the 426 had the top end.
@gary9426
@gary9426 3 жыл бұрын
The RAIV 400 was also a great top end motor....I think C&Z said this Poncho has run in the 11's....must have had an off day or something..getting beat three times by that Plymouth was definitely impressive!
@kevinmcduffie1092
@kevinmcduffie1092 Жыл бұрын
They didn't walk 🚶 the Cuda 440 supercommando! They couldn't beat it! Only time I know of it being beaten was by a '69 Camaro Z28 302!!
@andyworgess8998
@andyworgess8998 2 жыл бұрын
That was wicked cool
@randallgreen6746
@randallgreen6746 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't get much closer than that.
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 3 жыл бұрын
From the dawn of time to the ends of the earth as its always been, it takes a mopar to catch a mopar
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be the same without you
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras nor you brother
@bunk-bn9eo
@bunk-bn9eo 3 жыл бұрын
I think the LS6 is the "stiffest" competition.
@michaelroberts6450
@michaelroberts6450 18 күн бұрын
RA IV was the top option in the factory order sheet, but.... you could order the parts to make it a Ram Air V. Seen a couple actual accurate GTO's with the Ram Air V conversion it is a lot more rowdy than the IV. Sure Chrysler dealers had similar over the counter upgraded parts with their Rapid Transit System marketing and promotions. Both cars really strong and setup really well . HEMI left with the sweep and did what Hemi's do. Both cars represented themselves well.
@joshbrekke6374
@joshbrekke6374 Жыл бұрын
RamAir V Tunnel Port could/would take the Hemi. By a lot honestly. Two Very Awesome cars, very consistent!
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 3 жыл бұрын
Out of all the cars I've seen matched up on CZ, I think I like this pair the best. I think I'll go buy a scratch off with this last dollar. Wish me luck. You'll know I won if you see me on CZ racing both these.
@garycordle5295
@garycordle5295 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful cars 👍
@daleliske9757
@daleliske9757 4 ай бұрын
Both, absolutely great cars, my hat's off to running them both to their potential. At your Initial expense.
@tomgeorge3023
@tomgeorge3023 3 жыл бұрын
The Hemi is about to eat a goat
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@timothyburleigh68
@timothyburleigh68 3 жыл бұрын
That little extra weight in the GTO held it back. I'm sure if you put thicker tires in the back the GTO would have got a better time. Still a impressive run.
@jons5898
@jons5898 3 жыл бұрын
Elephant 🐘 Power !
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 3 жыл бұрын
🐐 power too!
@maliburallye350
@maliburallye350 3 жыл бұрын
2 four barrel Carter vs 1 Qjet...... 🧐🧐
@seventybuick
@seventybuick 3 жыл бұрын
Those are not stock.
@charlesr.aliffjr.4050
@charlesr.aliffjr.4050 5 ай бұрын
Ya think? 🙄
@XBobbyVegasX
@XBobbyVegasX 3 жыл бұрын
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