1971 Dodge Demon 340 vs 1970 Camaro SS396 - PURE STOCK DRAG RACE (Factory Stock)

1970 Dodge Demon 340 vs 1970 Chevrolet Camaro SS396 L78. Pure Stock Drag Race (factory stock drag racing)
Our first car is a monster! A 1970 Dodge Demon 340 (the evil twin of the Plymouth Duster 340). The other car might look like a Z28, but it's actually a 1970 Chevy Camaro Super Sport 396 with a L78 with 375 horsepower! The Demon 340 was rather rare that year with only 10,000 made. However, the Camaro SS is even more rare with only 600 (!) L78s produced in 1970. For comparison, they made over 10 times more Z28s in 1970! If you're a fan of watching muscle cars drag race, well, this is a good match for you!
Remember, both cars participate in Factory Stock class through F.A.S.T drag racing. Make sure you visit their website. www.fastdrags.com
Here are the Factory Stock rules:
Rules
For 1955 to 1979 muscle cars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Drivetrain:
Automatic Transmissions: The transmission and torque converter must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Shift improver kits are allowed. After-market shifters are not allowed. No manual valve bodies. No lightweight internal components allowed.
Manual Transmissions: The transmission must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. 3-speeds may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
Rear Axles:
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed. Driveshaft safety loops are mandatory on all cars 13.99 and faster!
Engine:
Must be factory correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Dealer installed engines and dealer performed engine modifications are not allowed. Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Modifications are prohibited. Blocks do not have to be "numbers-matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only. NO strokers! Random P&G checks are possible. Compression may be increased to the greater of NHRA allowable stock blue print or 1.5 over advertised compression. NHRA
Electrical System:
The battery must be retained in the original location and securely fastened down with the original style hold down. The charging system must be fully operational at all times.
Fuel System and Carburetor:
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Pulleys:
All pulleys must be factory issue, and they must have the correct diameters for the year and horsepower claimed for the engine.
Valve Train:
The complete valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Rocker arm ratio must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed. Roller tip rockers allowed as long as correct ratio is used.
Camshaft:
The camshaft must be correct for the model, year, and horsepower claimed for duration, lift, and type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). No roller cams allowed.
Exhaust:
Cast iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. NO internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. The exhaust system may be upgraded to a maximum of 2.5-inch head and tail pipes.
Ignition System:
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
Cooling System:
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
Suspension:
Front Suspension: Stock springs and shocks must be retained. Drag springs and shocks that allow excessive lift during launches are NOT allowed.
Rear Suspension: Traction devices are limited to hop-stop bars for the upper control arms on coil-spring cars. Pinion snubbers and clamping of springs are allowed on leaf-spring cars. No slapper bars or ladder bars of any kind are allowed unless originally equipped at the factory.
Tires & Wheels:
Reproduction tires or radial tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind allowed. Retread tires are not allowed. Use of traction compounds or rubber-softening chemicals on tires are strictly prohibited.
#dodge #chevycamaro #musclecars

[@CarsAndZebras]

Great match! These are a couple of cars from the Factory Stock class with the FAST organization. Rules are in the description. Also check out the, “stock appearing drag racers“ group on Facebook.

[@shadvan9494]

Cars And Zebras that was not a real L78. It had an auto trans. All 600 L78 were 4 speed cars. Also it didn’t sound like a mechanic cam. The l78 screams at high rpm, this on sound like it was short shifted a 4k

[@sambarnes9520]

For future videos can you also post 1/8th mile times, 60ft.

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@ontargetthomunclesam3926 No. Foot-pounds are the units for WORK, pound-feet are the units for TORQUE.

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@ontargetthomunclesam3926 - No, it just means that you don’t understand the units for torque.

[@lookielou843]

@@ontargetthomunclesam3926 Dang you have runn a speed shop for 40 years and don’t understand torque? Well that’s embarrassing.

[@briandungan515]

Those little 340's were never afraid to fight outside their weight class.

[@bunk-bn9eo]

They are mighty little monsters.

[@derailleurmind0454]

Much like a 318.

[@1967plymgtx]

I had a '70 Challenger T/A back in the day....it was a crowd-pleaser 😊

[@johnhull6363]

And they didn't do well...lol

[@briandungan515]

@@johnhull6363 just curious on what kinda car you drove in the day?

[@kurtpoblenz2741]

I think we can all agree that the factory hp & tq rating of the 340 was off. Very underrated motor. Those 340 mopars were giant killers!

[@kennieb5606]

YES IT WAS LOWER THEY WERE SLOW RUST BUCKETS

[@kurtpoblenz2741]

@@kennieb5606 …… you sound like a but hurt Chevy guy 😊😂😂😂

[@JimLBon]

Richard Holdener does dyno tests on KZbin and he’s done the 340/six pack. Out of all the “factory” small blocks he’s dyno’d from the muscle era I’m pretty sure the 340 came out with the most power stock. By a decent margin as well.

[@JaxinBlue]

That would explain it. I'm wondering how, with a 100 horse & torque advantage, you lose- even with the extra weight. Unless the advantage of 4:10 gears runs out before the end of the 1/4.

[@danielslocum7169]

@@kennieb5606 sore loser.

[@steves4639]

a 340 with 4spd and steep gears is a match made in heaven...everything working together for those hi revs

[@mcdanolds6760]

Do you wanna know what else is a match made in heaven? Perfectly crisp french fries and a Big Mac!

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

@@mcdanolds6760 sorry ron but yall cannot make fries.

[@zubitron5]

I had a 340 Duster when I was in college in the seventies. That 340 was one of the sweetest running engines any American company ever made. My room mate got his Master's Degree and a job as a coach and bought a 350 Camaro. He had had a early seventies Vette. He thought his car was faster than mine because he had a 350 and I had a 340. WRONG! I could smoke him.

[@mikekeeler6362]

You're so funny

[@daver53]

The 340 is arguably the best high performance motor Chrysler made during this era. I've owned a 1967 GTX automatic with headers and a 1970 Dart Swinger with a 340 automatic. Both 3.23 difs. That Swinger not only was faster than the 440, but that small block made it a better handler. Also got a couple of mpg better overall. 340s rule!

[@55dionysus]

Now David your 440 was missing a plug . 440 GTX's were probably the fastest cars on pavement.

[@oakleaves8370]

Even faster than a 426 Hemi?

[@user-wy7ox2ms2t]

Probably one of the best performances V8s made.

[@tigerboy60]

Wrong Answer RoadRunners, Super Bees, Hemi Darts, Chargers would out perform the GTX.@@55dionysus

[@cheekymonkey444]

I bought a '71 Demon 340 brand new in 1971. $3200 out the door. I had to float a three year loan for it. 340 four speed, 3.91 posi rear. Deep metallic blue with white full vinyl top. White body striping , black out hood with scoops. I didn't get the air foil on the trunk deck. Got drafted and had to sell it, nowhere to store it. I miss that little street terror.

[@randyklug615]

Always have respect for the 340, back in the mid 70's I had a built 289 in a1965 Mustang fastback. And couldn't get away from my friend Steve in his 340 Dart with headers and a mild cam, damn those days were fun😎

[@chrisyonkus7424]

Had more horsepower than advertised like most manufacturers

[@billb89]

The 289 Hi performance was one of the best engines Ford built.

[@hansgruber650]

Well it was said about the 340 back in the day, "Giant Killer", there you go.

[@ludedude5228]

As an owner of several 340 Dusters , All we had to do was put on an Edelbrock LD340 Aluminum intake , A Holley double pump 750 and a good set of Headers, bump the timing up and swap out to the 3:91 Sure Grip gears. And We we're running down Big Blocks all day long , The small block Ford and Chevys were just cat nip. We were constantly being accused of cheating using nitrous , which we weren't. The 340 Were known as Giant killers in the right hands """"" """"" And I witnessed it in person , Behind the Wheel 😎

[@tims72demon]

I traded in my 1967 GTX Conv, 440 Super Comando, in on my 1972 Demon in Jan 1972. The ins companies were eating us alive with those big blocks. Well 3 wives later, I still have my Demon. I’ve had the interior redone. Swapped the 3 spd for an A833 O/D and the rear end was freshened up. Still has 3.55 with sure grip. Everything new. Just got the 340 back from the shop. Forged crank,10.5 compression. I finally put a set of Dougs headers on it. Dyno’d at 355hp & 375 torque It’ll still put a smile on my face. 😀

[@danpals7678]

Did you trade the wives in too?

[@tims72demon]

@@danpals7678 Guess they traded me in on their new models !!! Looking back, I'm better off with the car. Had better choice with cars than wives !!!

[@ottoandhanzblack2175]

Would love to see pictures of it!

[@bluesky-ud9wg]

The 340 was such an underrated beast. Headers, better carb, gears and it was a BB killer...

[@robertsr.249]

It didn’t kill my 65 SS 396/375 Impala , I let off and rolled the last 200 feet or so .

[@chriswalker955]

Your dam right 340 hell yeah!!!

[@chriswalker955]

I've eaten 454s np ,and 455s ,72 340 challenger minor mods 355s

[@sergeantmasson3669]

@@robertsr.249 Yeah, and the moon is green cheese. Anymore fairy tales Chevturd?

[@chriswalker955]

@@robertsr.249 horseshit

[@donnielang2438]

I consider myself a Camaro man and owned 5 of them in my younger life but the faster car I owned was a 1969 Dodge GTS with a 340 in it

[@twagn]

340 MOPAR ..just ROCKS

[@CarsAndZebras]

They’re definitely good engines! but the L78s are monsters as well

[@handsofgodd]

@@CarsAndZebras Pretty obvious the dodge wasn't stock as it would never have beat the camera !!

[@ottoandhanzblack2175]

​@@handsofgodd Come on....he lost. The sun will still come up tomorrow!

[@craigcontofalsky4387]

My first brand new car was a 71 Demon 340 when I was 18. I also raced a 71 Duster 340 Super Stocker back in the 70's. My current fun car is another 71 Demon 340 four speed with 14,000 original miles in Hemi Orange!! 340's for ever!

[@InuranusBrokoff]

Ford guy here, and I've got a 340 with a 727 behind it. I was young, and didn't realize how special that little engine was when I bought it, glad I never let it go.

[@martinblack7086]

I'm a Mopar guy, but also a muscle car enthusiast no matter the make! Those were the days! Mopar, Ford and Chevy all had some great machines. I always thought the Ford 302 and the 390 were great engines!

[@ottoandhanzblack2175]

Mopar, Chevy, or Ford, all had some great cars and engines in the muscle car Era! Do love those Mopar 340's

[@gary8399]

90% time if it is an A body 340 ya better bet on it as it shreds many many big blocks!!!

[@daverodkey]

John Kosko a close friend of mine from Valleyview Drive growing up had a 71 340 Demon, red with a black Vinyl top. It suprised the hell out of those who ran him in the quarter. MANY big blocks fell to it, including Kurta's 454 Chevelle.

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

And Hemis

[@nickmecca2024]

I'm a Chevy guy but I knew that outcome before the end. I saw it happen several times in person where illegal drag racing happened every weekend just outside of Buffalo -late 60s- early to mid 70s cops pretty much let it happen

[@jamesmylife6578]

The only reason I came here is cause my dad has a base model demon with a 318 engine. How well he fixed it cause he said it was a “grandma car”, cause he bought it from a grandma it’s being fixed may take weeks months years but it will be something when it’s fixed. It was his first car bought it for 300 dollars fixed it once needs to be fixed again it still runs, it’s just because it’s made out of regular steel and not stainless so it rusted out.

[@19baitmaster51]

6 pak, Offy high rise, and hedmans made mine run pretty good.

[@fredbarrett3747]

Bought the '71 Dodge Demon at a local car lot in 1979 for $900. Quickest car I ever drove.

[@bw3506]

Wow that little 340 pulled it off. I figured the extra breathing of the big block Chevy would snag it at the top end. Great matchup on this one it was close. Just shows you should never count out the 340 in a lightish car.

[@woolyhighlander7280]

Lightish ? 3450 lbs.

[@bw3506]

@@woolyhighlander7280 IDK he stated 3340 in the video. What's your point?

[@duster71]

4:30 gears in a 340 A body is nuts,it's crazy with 3:91 already

[@packingten]

I was a Mopar guy that drove some Chevys,I love Mopars!❤ I drove my baby brother home from hospital 57 Plymouth wagon 318 Powerflite,Dad&Mom in back w new brother😇. I have owned several Mopars,To many to count have one of last real Chrysler prods made 93 Dakota 4x4 285K original eng& trans best trk ever!. RIP MOPAR!. Sure miss my 83 Cordoba!!..

[@brandonhamilton3416]

The pre '72 340 was the absolute best hot rod engines in any hot rod. They definitely loved tall gears. Were so reliable and had way more power than originally rated. Lot's of engines back then were, but the 340 was the most underrated and about the cheapest you could buy. Hard to find a 340 now days.

[@taylorpinkney7253]

I have a 73 duster 340 and I have out run many big blocks in my little 340

[@machwind3266]

🥴340 blocks hard to find? Uh oh. Guys like me might have had something to do with that.

[@busterb11702]

No doubt! The 340 Mopar was a beast. Designed after the 327 Chevrolet small block, I had a '71 Cuda 340 with 381 gears & a 4 speed. That car screamed!!

[@tima6549]

Those Demons and Dusters were very light weight cars, and surprisingly quick. Even the 318 powered cars were quick off the line and could surprise you.

[@scottpeac3774]

The 318 and the 340 had the same stroke , you could turn that 318 into a formidable foe !!!

[@lilmike2710]

@@scottpeac3774 a simple porting of the heads and an electronic ignition with a well tuned carb and those 318's have the potential to hurt some fee fee's

[@josephtravers777]

Had two good friends in HS. One bought a Demon, the other bought a Duster after riding in it!

[@kennieb5606]

LOL

[@woxyroxme]

When I was in high school I had a car with a 318 and would leave GM cars with bigger engines in the dust, my car was unibody and theirs were body on frame, weight difference matters.

[@mikepreciado7807]

U kill me. Love yur humor! My buddie has a 69 340 dart 4spd. Eats big blocks on a regular occurrence

[@CarsAndZebras]

A lot of people have been victims to 340 mopars. thanks for watching! 👍😎

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

Not Chevy, Buick, or Olds is doesn't.

[@ericlockard6376]

My dad had a 69 Dart GTS 340 that would destroy pretty much any big block

[@martinblack7086]

I had a '69 dart 340. Hooker headers & edelbrock manifold

[@christinebrunton1489]

I had a 72 Demon... My first car. I miss it!!! It was Orange and Black. Mopar Wonderful!!

[@mopar4life458]

I have 72 factory snorkel hood auto 340 beautiful car

[@ottoandhanzblack2175]

My brother had a 72 demon that was sky blue, white stripes and the dual hood scoops. Beautiful car!

[@burningblue1254]

Both beautiful cars. I don't favour one make or another because they are all amazing. However, I love the fact that Dodge and Plymouth said we are going to sell you a car with a taxi cab interior and the basics with no frills and we are going to give it a really powerful, fast revving screamer of a motor at a Dollar store price. David and Goliath.

[@myronanton1689]

I was never impressed with the 396, but the 340 always amazed me.

[@jamesbottger5894]

Depends on the version of the 396. This one was a weak one. One of the stronger 396s would've smoked this Dodge...even an LT1 350 would've beaten it...

[@b.nunn.2702]

@@jamesbottger5894 Why didn't this one smoke it then?? It had more cubic inches, higher compression ratio, more hp.more torque, and at least 4:10 gears. And from what I can tell, the Dodge was gaining lead even at the big end.😁 But I'll have to say, This Camaro is one sweet ride though! And not slow by no means!

[@b.nunn.2702]

@ Myron Anton Those 340's were Amazing!! This Car just beat a Chevy with higher hp.rating, more cubic inches, higher compression ratio, more torque, 4:10 gears!!

[@drobson8004]

@@jamesbottger5894 ???? An L78 375 HP 396, like the one here, was the strongest 396 available.

[@jamesbottger5894]

@@drobson8004 How do you know it was an L78? How do you know the 340 wasn’t modified?

[@lars277]

I witnessed a 1970 340 duster wax a 1967 Chevelle SS 396 4 speed in 1971, when I was 16. Fact. The 340 Duster had a 391 ratio gearset. I don't know what the 396 had for gears, but that 340 waxed him by a car length. The Chevelle had the reputation of being the fastest car in town.

[@elbarosa2084]

My rip husband love this muscle car thank

[@CarsAndZebras]

I appreciate you watching

[@Ferg13]

My dad had the 70 Camaro full bumper in the early 80s. Had the same shifter as the split bumper in this vid. Was a street machine when my dad bought it. He sold it later. Tue guy blew the motor in it. Put a 427 big block in it. My dad a couple years later bought it back. Had the motor refreshed. No adders. Straight motor. Ram low 11’s in 1/4 mile in Cicero NY (ESTA Safety Park) awesome track. My dad finally got out of it mid 80’s. And built a 65 Chevy II. Bought it from the wreckers for 500 bucks. Had a 327 motor in it. Was to be crushed that day. My dad saved its life. Took him a few years to build into a street machine show car. He trade tue 327 for a 283 plus money. Wasn’t set for racing but he did do a ray test. Ram 15’s in a 1/4 mile. Not bad for a little motor like that. After a few years. He sold it. Just the body was appraised at 10 G’s. Tue motor was mostly chrome. B&M shift kit. Car was black with red crushed velvet interior. Black rug. Tue dash was painted red. Crater rims. It was a sweet car.

[@Ray56z]

340 was a chevy big block stomper. Actually pulled a 340 4-speed out of a '71 Demon and dropped it in my '64 Barracuda with 373 out back-after the 340 went to a shop for some tweaks. Locals hated that little Barracuda, girlfriend and I loved it for what it did on the strip, and the drop down rear seat and trunk panel.

[@wagonmaster1974]

Headers, supertune, radial tires and traction bars took my '71 Demon identically equipped as the feature car of this video, to 12.6 1/4. Embarrassed lots of big blocks back in 74/75. 4.30 gears had the little 340 turning around 3950 at 60 MPH. Mine was green-go, not black.

[@goldysgarage189]

3950 at 60? What a headache

[@dallasmars2]

That's when Chrysler built real hot cats

[@dallasmars2]

Oops I meant hot cars

[@thesouthernsons]

The A body's for Mopar in the semi fast back shape were specially designed. Things to notice a hemi fits between the front sub frame. The power to weight ratio was designed purposely to get the 71 Demon and duster an advantage during launch the way the car was designed allowed for maximum weight distribution. The 340 was a wicked motor. High raving large intake ports with the specially redesigned intake manifold and exhaust ports. Large over lap on the cam give it a wide power band. Forged crank and forged rods with light weight pistons allowed for 6700- 6800 shift points on the 4 speeds and 6400-6500 shift points on the automatic. The last AVS carb used on 340's was especially tuned for max air and fuel up to 6800rpm. While allowing 21 mpg with the 3.54 gears.

[@jhimmelberger5371]

In 1972 i bought a new orange 340 4 speed.That car ran like it was possessed!!! I think the reason that car ran so well for me was, i was born on Halloween...A match made in Hell.

[@rickb9238]

The early 340’s were really underrated power wise. I had a 71 Duster automatic with 3:23 gears. Bone stock on street tires it ran 14:03 @ 100 m.p.h. Had a lot of fun with it.

[@bunk-bn9eo]

That's pretty respectable, man.

[@lewisshepard9239]

No way.

[@sebbonxxsebbon6824]

To put that in perspective my "slow" 1985 Corvette ran a 13.93 at 98 mph on a stock 230 horse motor. Maybe 230 HP might be a tad under rated.

[@saltydog4759]

@@lewisshepard9239 He's right. I had a 1971 Dodge Demon 340 4spd bought in 1973 when i was 17. All stock (including carter thermo-quad stock carb!). I only added headers and I was running high 13's at 100+ mph. This is my sworn testimony and I don't lie.

[@lewisshepard9239]

@@saltydog4759 I not saying you are deliberately lying, but no 73 could turn 13 second quarter. Not completely stock. The 70 TA and the AAR Cuda were a lot faster, and they didn’t turn 13s. 340 six pack cars.

[@gary9426]

Looked like a pretty close match up on paper...and it was! I thought the Camaro would take it, with the L78, but the small block Mopars could hold their own with the big dogs! Great race.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

Chevy is a joke compared to a Mopar son.

[@winteroutside7014]

@@wildestcowboy2668 both are a joke compared to a Ford , child

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@winteroutside7014 LoL and here we have a wet behind the ears kid. 426 HEMI pal blew anything away especially Ford's. Richard Petty said in 69 Ford was weak! FACTS

[@kennieb5606]

@@wildestcowboy2668 NEVER SAW A FAST MOPAR NEVER AND 340 WAS A JOKE

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@kennieb5606 Should have got out of your mom's basement more pal. Heck u probably never saw a MIGHTY MOPAR Big Block 426 HEMI either! Think I'll fire my 69 up now and laugh!

[@baldscarlettjohansson6433]

I suspect this video will be filled with “those cars aren’t stock” comments.

[@therealhonestabe7839]

Unless the cars run 15s those same stupid comments always show up.

[@danhillman4523]

The Chevy is.

[@taylorpinkney7253]

I totally agree 💯 someone is always posting negative stupid comments about the cars not being stock

[@r.a.p.k.models4160]

Honda fan boys probably.

[@r.a.p.k.models4160]

@CC Ryder yes they indeed run 13s big boy , is not a Honda.

[@georgeharleydavidsonrider156]

I haven’t even watch the video and I’m gonna go with the Camaro. Dam I was wrong. Remember the Commercial the Demon Made Him Do It .

[@JoshKetchum]

great match up! The Demon was screamin! I had the Camaro on this one.. I was wrong! lol

[@CarsAndZebras]

You tried and that’s all that matters 👍

[@tubedude4859]

an engine builder that mostly worked with chevys once when he took it apart my 340 said that it was a hot rod motor from the factory and planned on building one for his racecar

[@steves4639]

o man, this lineup gets me in all the right places...my fav Camaro Of All Time is the 2nd gen SS 396 (I have pix) but luv anything 340 (2nd car was '68 340-S Barracuda, 4sp!). So whatever the outcome, was gonna leave satisfied. would luv to see a dyno sheet on the Demon...not surprised it did well, but it did really well.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Two great cars!

[@billw2710]

Before this video I just watched a 340 Barracuda convertible destroy a 1969, 400 Ram-Air 3, Goat taking all 3 matches, and now a 340 Demon sends that big block L-78 Camaro home with its tail tucked between its legs. I always wondered what kind of drug did Chrysler slip into those 340 engines? I know that the 275 HP rating was a little bit on the low side, but c'mon Chrysler what's with these 340's? Now I'm just glad I never raced one with my '69 SS396, L-74, turbo 400, posi trac, Chevelle.

[@63MacGuy]

I didn’t call that one right. I think I always underestimate those 340’s

[@garymckee8857]

I had a 72 that surprised me for a stock engine.

[@daleandrews9356]

Right. My money would have been on the big block Camaro, just going by rated hp, gears and, I must admit, my love for big block Chevys(396, 427,454) AND in such a lightweight car.

[@monsterram6617]

Dad jokes, toilet humor, sexual innuendo... All reasons I love this channel!

[@CarsAndZebras]

It’s okay, we all have a screw loose here.

[@bunk-bn9eo]

The cars aren't bad either.

[@jayschmahl9206]

Wow, they look so evil blasting down that track. Both are so cool. My older brother's owned A body 340's. A '70 Dart Swinger 340, and a '72 Duster 340 that was bought new. Good time's. I am sure the Dart still exist's, but no clue on the Duster. I wish I owned them them now.

[@chrisanderson6837]

Big block killer. Love it. 340 is afraid of no one

[@johnkendall6962]

I had a swinger 340 4 speed. Very very seldom did you run across an L-78 Most Camaros and Chevelles with 396's had the lessor engines. The little 340s out ran them every time. We did a lot of red light to red light racing. With my 3:55 gears I didn't need to shift in that distance. I caught a lot of big blocks by surprise. Some of my friends even used a solid lifter cam and the adjustable valve train out of the earlier 273 HP engine to rev their 340s over 7000 rpm. Real screamers

[@rch105]

I had lots of fun with 350 Nova's using my 71 Duster 340. Best little engine Mother MoPar had.

[@chuckwagon5518]

Growing up in Chicago in the 70's, I belonged to a group of friends who all drove Plymouth's. I had 3 friends who each had a 1969 Roadrunner (two 440's and a 383 Magnum) and two other friends who both had 340 Duster's. I know most of that group looked at Dodge's first, but wound up buying Plymouth's instead. In our little part of the world Dodge was an outsider!

[@martinblack7086]

I grew up just outside Chicago (Des Plaines, IL) in the 70's also. 0Buddy of mine had a 70 340 Duster that was a screamer! I had a 69 Dart 340 swinger with hooker headers and an edelbrock manifold, it was also a beast! My brother had a 340 Demon which was mean also. We had alot of fun on Friday & Saturday nights cruising and occasionally "running" against the competition! Do you remember Mr. Norms Grand Spaulding Dodge? How about "Skips" drive inn on river road and north Avenue in Melrose park.....muscle car hangout in the 60's and early 70's

[@garycordle5295]

They are known to be the big block killer, I know I had one and I miss it.

[@deadhead7930]

I gotta repeat myself. Your channel is the shit. Btw, I'll take an old Dodge over anything else. Cheers

[@CarsAndZebras]

thanks for watching! you’re almost to your one year anniversary of being a subscriber! 👍

[@vincentenk4449]

Gotta love those 340s! 327s got nothin' for 'em!

[@1badhaircut]

Well .... the 327 / 350 was their target to duplicate - NHRA factored the Mopars to 320 ... as the rating of 275 @ 5000 was below peak

[@danpals7678]

I have a 66 383 Charger and she is scary fast. Nice video.

[@chevyblue10]

I had a 71 Demon in the late 70s. Slant 6 lol. Sure wish I had this combo now.

[@mcode440]

lmao, yeah Demon name was evil, but Swinger, well hmm

[@CarsAndZebras]

they should’ve made a Demon Swinger...even better.

[@stvwds61]

Swingers are my favorite!

[@Marshall-uy2dv]

A340 is a high winding mean motor, A340 in a demon is a force to be reckoned with!

[@deniseb3897]

I got a 1970 340 Dodge Dart Swinger for my first car in 1976 when I was 16 yrs old. It only had 42,000 miles on it when i got it. Thanks to insurance rates and the OPEC gas crunch, I got it for $400 out the door. There was some rust that helped too. I didn't care, I loved it. I surprised many Camaros and Mustangs in it. Even though it had the auto trans and 3.23 Sure Grip it would still do 96 mph at the marked off 1/4 mile here in Pasadena, Tx. That motor had the most beautiful sounding scream when it hit the top of each gear. Happy memories 46 years later.

[@SoMDHarleyRider]

I think that is the first time I have been extremely surprised by the outcome of one of your featured races!

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

Gotta love that Mopar designed engine. It still survives: 273=4.7L, 318=5.2L, 340=5.7L.

[@1johnnysteve]

I know 340s are quick, but that was an L78... Damn.

[@mrnobody8540]

Past up a 69 duster back in 77 - really regret it, now... Boy I would love to have all of those old muscle cars today

[@johnavery522]

I took a 71 SS Chevelle 454 4 speed for a test drive and took it back to the dealer and accused him of swapping in a 350 . Never so disappointed in a car . I kept my 340 duster.

[@louiskats5116]

Goodday C & Z, Had my money on the Demon. You have shown that Demon before & I think it ran in the 12's, which was mind blowing quick. Love the old TV adds too, the Aussie Valiant VH SE E55 Charger is our equivalent to the Demon check it out. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

[@CarsAndZebras]

i’ve shown a 1972 demon a few times… But that car has utilized quite a few of the pure stock modifications and is actually quicker than this 1971. Both very cool 👍

[@louiskats5116]

@@CarsAndZebras Cool, can someone please name the song playing in the background, I know it but I can't figure it out. It's driving me crazy, stuck in my head 😩😩

[@howabouthetruth2157]

@@louiskats5116 The name of the song is: The House of the Rising Sun..........band: the Animals. Year released: 1964.

[@louiskats5116]

@@howabouthetruth2157 THANK YOU

[@howabouthetruth2157]

@@louiskats5116 You're very welcome. Was a very popular song for years after it was released. Still a classic.

[@briansd2772]

The MoPar let me down last time but I'll stick with the Pentastar clan one more time thinking the Demon might have a slight P2W ratio advantage. Update: I'm glad I listened to the little guy on my left shoulder with the pitchfork! Does that count as another pun?

[@shobud7561]

The 4 Speed gear box was the trick up the sleeve.

[@DOC-Jake-]

My friend had a couple 72. Maybe a 73/74 wedge but they were fast. I had a fire chicken with an older 72 350. He d beat me most times. Lol. Liked that car had 4 speed pistol shift.

[@flashy5150]

340’s can really move. Great drag racing motor for the streets too, from light to light, it can win ‘em all. MOPAR #1

[@hearn_5018]

They really need to bring a good dart line up back.

[@woxyroxme]

They should have made the new dart cars a retro, a lot of us oldsters grew up with these cars and loved them. They should bring the A-body back with the new stellantis 183 in line 6, they would sell like crazy, no need for modernity, stay as close to the original as possible

[@dirkpittthegreat4559]

Lived those days..u don't know what u missed.

[@TractorWrangler01]

The factory hot Demons with the chrome emblems in the side had a dual point distributor and all the goodies.

[@wagonmaster1974]

Only in 71, if your car was equipped with a manual transmission. Autos got single points. In 72, you got electronic. 72 was the year, BTW, for the chrome emblems. In 71, they were painted/decals.

[@karlsracing8422]

Demon looks amazing!

[@dshep5479]

Incidentally, the 1971 Z28, 350 /330 hp could be optioned w/4spd - close ratio Borg Warner - T10 Trans and optional 4:10/ trac-lock -12 Bolt rear end. So the 12 Bolt did see one more year of service in a Camaro.

[@turbo8454]

Those little 340 Demons, Darts, Cuda's and Dusters would flat a$$ run. I wasn't into Mopars in the 70's so I passed on a mint '70 bone stock Dart 340 for $600 around 1980. Three speed on the floor, a friend bought it and it ran 14.23 on stock sized tires. I can still see it for sale that summer in front of a gas station.

[@danielroberts698]

I built a 340 for a friend back in early 80’s. Put it in a 73 challenger 4 speed. It was just a cam headers 650 double pumper Holley. I never raced it against my 440 Charger. I drove it and really thought it would have beat my car. Incredible how fast it would rev. I was always amazed. Very fast for what it was.

[@danielroberts698]

I have to clear up my mistake. That 73 challenger with the 340 also got a new set of pistons that made it around 11:1 compression. Plus a set of 71 heads with the 2:02 intake valves. I am not kidding about how it would rev. Incredible power for a small block

[@therealojsimpson8024]

I like that demon.... *we have a lot in common*

[@paulallison6689]

😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@dougabbott8261]

Excellent job on this vid. You just keep getting better and better. I really like all the additional materials you show ,like at 1:04. Unfortunately, it was never in focus so even though I paused it ,to read all that goodness, it was not possible. Bummer.

[@richardsmith51]

Martin 131 dragway was my home track. Back in the 1970’s they had a pure stock class. I had a friend who raced a purple 1970 duster 340 he did very well in the class. The car that seemed to win the most in the class was a blue Cougar 428. I always wondered how pure stock it was because it dominated the class when he was there.

[@richardharris8399]

I had a 70 Duster 340 that I bought from the original owner in 1978 for $1250. He was a salesman and kept a record of every gallon of gas and quart of oil. Had 65000 miles when I got it. 3 speed on the floor. Mopar orange with black top and interior. It was the best car I ever had and I've been kicking myself for years for not keeping it.

[@chadhosmer9357]

God I miss my 1970 Duster 340ci and 3 speed manual. B5 blue and 3.73 geared tough as nails 8 3/4 posi. The only other car that I enjoyed more than that little beast was my 1999 Ford Cobra SVT Mustang. Great video brother.

[@CarsAndZebras]

thanks for watching 👍

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

Well, I think we know who The Church Lady didn't vote for. I'm sure she hates that Dart Swinger, too.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Well isn’t that special 👍

[@SweatyFatGuy]

@@CarsAndZebras Maybe SATAN!?!?!?! Showing how old we are man...

[@bnghjtyu767]

This was a good matchup. I really good overview of the cars. And I liked the output.

[@ExtremelyOCD]

340 mopar vs. big block Chevy, seemingly outclassed. I had the 340 for the win. Overshadowed by it's bigger brothers, but just as legendary.

[@futon02]

As a Mopar guy, going for the demon, but not 100% sure on this one

[@hillbillyscholar8126]

I never was in doubt once I saw the build of the respective cars. My money was on the Demon...

[@samsonreynolds3728]

Always bet mopar with muscle cars

[@OldGriz708]

Had both cars actually ran with gears that were available from the factory this race wouldn't have even been close.

[@missesmew]

Most Mopar guys only think Hemi or 440, forgetting completely about them beautiful small blocks. Less is more baby!👊🏾🤘🏾

[@jayschmahl9206]

@@missesmew I agree! I have owned my '71 Challenger 340 convertible since 1983 (Thank's mom) and will never part with her. She need's TLC now but I am getting that Mopar itch again. Too many year's in the garage waiting for me to get off my arse.

[@rickbullock4331]

That was a very close race. The 340’s were underrated by Chrysler for sure. I’m pretty sure NHRA rated them at about 320 h.p. or so.

[@musclecarmitch908]

Cool video! I love these cars, thank goodness I can have the experience. 👍

[@CarsAndZebras]

Thanks for watching!

[@13coyote13]

Actual documented stock horsepower for the 340 was 320hp(tuning and higher rpm), my 69 Swinger with an intake, tweaked Thermo-quad, shaved(.0060) and lightly ported heads(X heads), solid lifter cam and headers put out just under 425hp, hooked to an A833, Hurst Ram Rod shifter and 4:10 Richmond gears would take out just about anything on the street with a set of N50-15's on the back and like everyone else regret selling it.

[@AMCmachine]

Now, if you could find a Mr. Norm's Demon GSS (or clone) and square it off against a supercharged Studebaker or Shelby Mustang....THAT would be cool. Blower whine for days!

[@ButchNackley]

4:45 Ah yeah, a few shotguns BEFORE jumping in the back seat. Those were the days.

[@diecast164andmore9]

Awesomeness....love this channel!

[@CarsAndZebras]

thanks for watching, friend! 👍

[@jamesmackinlay4477]

Back in the day the 340 darts and dusters always earned respect even the Chevy and Ford guys and even the big block Mopar line ups back then knew it was no pushover. mid 13's were common in a A body 340 car and it was a very tough engine as well. Mid to high 12's was easy to get cam "a little bigger than stock" intake and headers mid 12's all day. I know I owned a few wish I had them now or at least one LOL.

[@lelomiliken7598]

Please!!! Keep them coming!!! That new demon was really screaming 👹🎆🎆🎆

[@CarsAndZebras]

Will do, friend!

[@LITTLE1994]

Demon before the Demon (Challenger). It's 340 sure held up against the Camaro. Another close race.

[@gloriamaletta8667]

These old Dodges remind me of Grand and Spaulding Dodge in Chicago during 1968-1972 some very cool cars came from them back in the day one was a 440 Dart

[@martinblack7086]

Mr. Norm just passed away recently 😢. He was "the man" for Mopar performance. There have been a couple of great articles on Mr Norm's recently about the Mopar's he built. I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and everyone who was into muscle cars knew about Mr. NORM! RIP! What great times.

[@gloriamaletta8667]

@@martinblack7086 Grand and Spaulding Dodge l grew up in Chicago and the Chicago suburbs good times cool cars

[@billybudd9994]

I recently found your channel. Just wanted to let you know I really enjoy the information you pass along including the corny jokes. Keep up the good work!

[@lb9gta307]

Those little A body Mopars are real contenders. A reletively lightweight compact stuffed with strong small block is just a good combo. I do love my GM F bodies though.

[@danhoyland142]

I’m 35 and drinking a white claw as speak ironically enough, and my intuition says the demon will come out on top. My friend In high schools family were a big mopar family. They had all kinds of early mopars including a 71 340 demon which they said was hands down the fastest. Btw those 340s we purposely given lower horsepower ratings and they were closer to 325 horse from the factory.

[@jimkellems1988]

I bleed Mopar blue. I had my first 1968 Cuda. It was awesome 340. It made everybit of the 275 + hp After headers gears 391 slicks it ran high 12:93 100+. Loved that car

[@drewrunningwater535]

I'm a mopar man... gotta love them..👍👍 the guy talking is funny as hell..😂

[@bobbiecrider6964]

I had a 72 SS 396/402 4 speed gold with a white vinyl top in 1974 at age nineteen... Too much car for me at that time ( no trouble) getting kicked out of more than one town .. or just politely asked to leave. Now I know The 72 was powered down with the first roll-out of the pollution controls, but I did manage to get a few tanks of Sonoco 260 before the pumps were ripped out. Maybe you could mention the enormous three-barreled carb sitting atop the 402... It was an awesome car of power and beauty... My dad shut me down and sold the car even though I was the one paying for it...

[@r.a.p.k.models4160]

I'm building a Plymouth gtx 68 revell 1/24 , nice video.

[@CarsAndZebras]

nice 👍

[@hemihead001]

The 340 wasn't nicknamed the Baby Hemi for nothing .

[@1sttvbn]

I never bet against 340 A bodies. I know the Challengers/Cuda’s were way more popular, but I’ve been watching drags for 50 some years....The A body is just a more sound drag machine.