1972 Fender Rhodes Piano Bass

[@ThePianoforever]

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[@morismateljan6458]

Just the fact this electric instrument is passive blows my mind. That means it would work well with guitar effects!

[@alexmason6191]

Wah effect sounds incredibly great with Rhodes

[@theokayestbassist]

Listen to Royal Blood's "Hole in my Heart". They use a Rhodes in that song with overdrive and all other fun stuff

[@belzebongnight9521]

And Amp! 👌

[@wayfaringshaman]

Jack White already had that idea about 15 years ago!

[@m.e.8153]

Another great Rhodes part with overdrive and wah wah you can hear on the Rolling Stones' Heartbreaker.

[@jmichaellee]

Always fun. It's worth noting that the jack is an *output* jack, not input, and the instrument does not get any power from the amplifier at all. Like a passive guitar or bass, the movement of the tone bars causes a current to be induced in the coils of the pickups (which have permanent magnets). That current is then converted to a voltage which is read by the amp.

[@wajobu]

I used to use one of these in a jazz band in the 1970s.

[@badabing4814]

Ray manzarek used this for almost every single live concert, it's really great

[@ferox965]

I'm a bassist. Riders on the Storm isn't complicated, but really awkward to play. You can tell it was written by a keyboard player.

[@colejackson6396]

Jerry Scheff wasn't terribly happy with Ray Manzarek when he came up with that bassline, if I recall correctly

[@chriss3838]

Light my fire had piano baas and real bass guitar. Half the songs on the first album were piano bass only and the other half were both. Good video

[@jfan4reva]

Ray Manzarek tells a story about writing "Riders on the Storm", and how the bass player showed up after they had written a lot of the song. The bass player asked what the bass line was, and Manzarek told him how easy it was, showing him what he had been been playing on the keyboard. The bass player's response was "easy for you!", and then he showed Manzarek the weird, nearly impossible hand positions required to play it on guitar. They recorded it using the bass guitar, and subsequently used the Piano Bass for live performances. (Anyone can play it on keyboards.)

[@skybluemarshall]

The Doors used various bassists on every studio album. Some albums included three different bass players on a few songs. Other albums included a single bass player on as many as half of the songs. On two of the albums that were produced after Jim Morroson's death, they used 4 and 5 different bassists. As far as I can tell, Doug Lubahn who played bass on three classic Doors albums, was the only bassist who was ever offered a permanent position with The Doors. Doug played 7 songs on Strange Days and all but two songs on Waiting for The Sun. He played less on Soft Parade. He declined The Doors' offer because he wanted to stay with his own band, Clear Light. On the other studio songs and on all of their live performances, Ray Mazarek played the bass parts on either his keyboards or his Fender Rhodes piano bass.

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

Back in the 90s when there was no always no bass player, I often fantasized owning one of these and using it in a band.

[@GibsonG1011]

Out of all the rhodes and rhodes basses Ive had the 1966 are really good

[@kunaikai]

I know that they did blend a lot of the Rhodes bass into recordings. As a bass guitarist these are probably my favorite keyboard. I love when keyboardists replace bass guitar with a Rhodes. It sounds so chunky. I personally think it sounds a lot better than a synth bass replacing a bass guitar.

[@AdamBorseti]

I recently bought a lovely Rhodes Stage 73 MK1 in beautiful shape from fellow KZbinr Mootbooxle! It's absolutely gorgeous.... the sound is so clear and crystalline while still maintaining a firm bass and mid.

[@ThePianoforever]

Very cool! Have you checked the year it was made yet. If you do already not know the date should be stamped under the hood on the back right side. The early 70's are the most sought after 71-74, with 72-73 being prime.

[@AdamBorseti]

@@ThePianoforever I think he said it was a 79, but I'll check. Right now, I'm just trying to device a way to get the sustain pedal to stay centered, without falling out after a while. I also have a Wurlitzer in storage!

[@ThePianoforever]

I have a 200 on my list as well.

[@casesoutherland4175]

Riders on the Storm? That's Jerry Scheff!!

[@dadautube]

the slightly curved top of the keys, if not due to the 'laminates' having warped because of age, then maybe it's on purpose for the player artists to do glissandos more comfortably without breaking their fingernails perhaps?

[@someguystudios23]

My Roland E-20 has purposefully rounder keys

[@jonmcalexander6475]

the first doors album , ray did use the fender rhoads

[@prestige2000rider]

Wow, the things i am learning about these Rhodes. Nice find James ! Rich sound

[@rio197]

Thank you for the vid! I've always wondered about this instrument.

[@gregaltenhofel7326]

A beautiful, fascinating & pristine piece of music history. Back when it was new an old buddy had a suitcase my favorite tone from all of them but I’d love to have an 88 key. I’ve never seen one of these in person.

[@rikkey3k]

For many years the Doors didn't have a base player - Ray played multiple parts !

[@ThePianoforever]

Yes that's true, and I state that in the video.

[@tyreburster]

Jerry Scheff played bass guitar on Riders On The Storm.

[@piafounetMarcoPesenti]

@Gennady Golovkin not after Jim's death, though.

[@carlbowles1808]

Want to hear the fender Rhodes at it's best listen to Roberta flack song listen killing me softly. This drove us crazy with new Joy.

[@zumazmusic]

I didn't know this instrument existed! Nice! 😎👍

[@Cycle1001]

I have a 88 F Rhodes the white keys are all oval shaped tops and fronts. The keys are of Wurlitzer manufacture (as per the Rhodes Tech Manual. I like the feel and look of the rounded tops the harp is dated 33 73. I just finished the "miracle mod"

[@hugofonseca465]

I like this kid.

[@SM-ht7qf]

light my fire does have the piano bass, along with the bass guitar in the studio recording

[@bojackhorseman5367]

I have an Elka X-50 organ with key tops/fronts that are rounded/arched like that - I really like it! not sure why so few manufacturers do this - I guess it takes time for something that isn't really that important.

[@Bluestomiv]

Actually I'm pretty sure you can hear the Rhodes Piano Bass on the Doors studio recordings, although there is a Bass guitar louder in the mix, but the keyboard bass is there.

[@sbstiangil]

is there any difference between the shared keys of this and low register of a regular 88 key rhodes?

[@floridahiker1503]

It sounds a little different than a Rhodes bass half. Kinda like it has more overtones like a cross with a Fender P bass when I hear it on recordings. I'm probably wrong.

[@twinsmm1]

9:44 - actually, it.s like the third final thing that he wanted to mention about the inside.

[@Nightyyou]

Haha I paused the video to watch a live performance of Riders On The Storm.... and yes, there it is, the piano bass :-)

[@ThePianoforever]

Matthias, If you think that was cool, just wait to you see what we have coming up. It's a very cool instrument from 1965 used by many bands of the era including the Doors, Animals, Beatles, etc......

[@0hhtecMusicianTheNotecianHero]

I bet that the arches in the keys allow for easier glissandos. also isn't a standard keyboard 88 keys, going all the way down to an A0? I have a couple keyboards with 20 to 30 fewer keys and they both go down to a low C.

[@siliconpeasants1023]

Not necessarily standard. Keyboards, if not necessarily pianos, go anywhere from two to seven octaves. There are even one octave keyboards that don’t look like piano keys; they’re sequencer interfaces and aren’t meant to be played normally.

[@GibsonG1011]

The latch design was used on many instruments of that time and to this day for example speaking of the doors I think the vox continental had them

[@ThePianoforever]

Yes I am aware as I have several others including a 1965 Vox Continental.

[@GibsonG1011]

@@ThePianoforever I just got a 64 connie and have a gold sparkle 65

[@ThePianoforever]

@@GibsonG1011 The 65 has the original hammer and tines design, where the 72 has the "rubber" type hammers and later tines.

[@GibsonG1011]

@@ThePianoforever felt I believe

[@GibsonG1011]

I am pretty sure unless I am stupid but the original tine design is also my favorite when I got a 66 silver sparkle I think the previous owner had rigged it with 70s rhode parts. Probably why I got it for 100$ It didnt either though but I got the right parts now it works like a dream. Your 72 seems really good shape wonder instrument

[@Megaabhijitdas]

It seems like a new. Not a single dust or any other colour deterioration

[@pixelpugg676]

Lol I was just looking at the fender Rhodes for the Davy Jones theme. Hello and have a good day!

[@rem00000]

A0 is the last note on a standard piano.

[@WizardGlik]

HOLY CRAP! I LOVE your socks!

[@itheoscar]

You do know how to make great reviews👍

[@HappyHackingVideoBlog]

One thing that upsets me a bit on my 1981 Mark II Rhodes is that the keybed is very noisy. I kind of hear the same kind of 'keypress noise" by the end of your video when you play that bass line. Are the Rhodes keys know to be noisy, in general, (which I suppose would not be a concern when playing it on a gig with loud amps) or should I be concerned about this being a specific problem of my unit?

[@Guitarist888]

So who played the bass guitar in the studio album?

[@MichaelTurner856]

Very cool video sir

[@khanscombe619]

Beautiful piece. What have u found as a compact modern digital version to get that deep bass sound? Something small to rack on top a newer Vox Speer Continental 73?

[@ThePianoforever]

Nothing.

[@christopolousvonsnuffolaup7420]

Awesome.man. I seem to go from ling ling chen to Olga kern and back to you for some great looks at these iconic instruments.hey check out the old saloon piano vid on KZbin that thing sound killer, the one that the old dude has the cover off. And I will take a.guess on a previous comment .Punch in Paul McCartney shows the ? Wait for it..... MELLOTRON!!!! LOL

[@DUKEOFSOUNDS]

I'm in love Looks great

[@michael_caz_nyc]

I am a guitar-player, but I've always loved the Rhodes Sound. Can you recommend any: Songs, Artists, or Albums (in any genre) that has Predominately Rhodes Piano ???

[@ThePianoforever]

When I think of the Fender Rhodes I think always think of The Doors "Riders on The Storm". A link to my cover: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2mxmq1jZ52IZqs Here is the original also by the Doors of "Light My Fire" that includes the use of the Fender Bass and the Vox Continental. kzbin.info/www/bejne/maKbnGCQl9iLeqs

[@michael_caz_nyc]

@@ThePianoforever Thanks. I'm familiar with both The Doors & ( more-so ) Steely Dan. Love that sound.

[@mikeygoda]

Stevie Wonder, George duke (Zappa /the mothers), Michael McDonald (doobie bros and solo), Donald fagen (steely Dan) all play Rhodes. Basically every record from the 70s has a Rhodes somewhere on it.

[@CubeRepublic]

awesome and interesting, thanks man

[@Mandofour]

May I ask what amplification/speakers you used in this video clip and in your other Rhodes clips please? Thank you for these wonderful history of these beautiful instruments

[@fordessexv6]

Sparkle Top!

[@ThePianoforever]

I have watched the old videos of The Doors with Ray playing one, I think they stopped making this version in about 72, or 73. The black version is very nice, but prefer the earlier version for several reasons.

[@fordessexv6]

Its a great instrument, thanks for uploading. I have subbed!

[@jwjeffrey]

Are you talking live or what?Jerry Scheff play Bass on the entire L.A. Woman album.He played Bass on Riders on the storm.

[@ThePianoforever]

Yes, I know that on the albums, a real bass guitar was used. However, during live performances you can see Ray Manzarek using a Piano Bass sitting on top of a combo organ of his choice.

[@xh4r744]

Love the tone but it doesn't sound like a upright bass

[@richardd.9816]

I am very pleased that an artist of your age knows about Ray Manzerk, he was a musical genius. BTW if boring tape recorders did not exist you might find it hard to listen to the multi-track recordings from the 1960s and 1970s. Keep up the great videos. Richard, Retired audio engineer. PS. Last year my friend bought his wife a new Bossendorfer butterfly grand. I had never seen one except on your video, as an engineer I have been in many recording studios and to see and hear one was an experience. He had the top line computer installed that is claimed to reproduce the exact playing of the artist, he had the Elton John million dollar piano show on disc. Sounded fine but when his wife played it it seemed to have more expression. What are your thoughts on that system? Thank you for your time.

[@ThePianoforever]

The tape recorder comment was just a joke, we actually have an Ampex tape recorder we will be using for mastering in the future. The Bosendorfer Butterfly piano is a fantastic instrument, and that's awesome you got to see and hear one! I have seen that very same computer system, installed in a Yamaha CX piano, and it seemed to do an excellent job of reproducing a piano performance. The difference in expression you were hearing was most likely due to the way Elton John performed the original piece. If he didn't do a lot of dynamic shifts, and your friend's wife did, then her performance would have sounded much more expressive.

[@richardd.9816]

Thanks again for your time. Of course I new you were kidding about tape recorders after all the beautiful vintage instruments you have shared. You are correct, I have never heard Elton playing live. Kevin told me that to him the the piano plays identically, live or on disc. All the best.

[@jacobbrown1690]

There's this guy, he has special powers, and when he is around, shit happens....

[@philipandersson4932]

Great video man ! 👍🏽

[@ThePianoforever]

Thank you.

[@sverregraffer6371]

Tape recorders are not boring.

[@ThePianoforever]

If I really thought though tape recorders were boring then I would not own a Ampex tape recorder.

[@sanchezmandelbrot6130]

yea the electro- mechanical complexity is up there. these 3d printer guys are going to have a field day once theyr introduced.

[@tm502010]

Cool!

[@antonincognet9100]

Hi, thank you for the video, it's awesome! I have a question: I recently got a Fender rhodes made in 1973, and I just would like to know what is the perfect amplification for it...bass amp, guitar amp, piano amp...? thanks

[@ThePianoforever]

If you ask different people they will give you different answers, but the general rule is keyboards get bass amps. The suitecase model came with it's own amp that is very nice. We use a Roland KC350 amp and it works well. We had a smaller Roland amp and it had a lot of background hiss, so we found the KC350 used and it works well.

[@antonincognet9100]

Thanks and for the piano bass?@@ThePianoforever

[@antonincognet9100]

I'm sorry the Rhodes I got is a Fender Rhodes bass...

[@ThePianoforever]

We use the Roland KC350 with ours. The same rule still applies piano keyboard/piano bass get a bass amp.

[@antonincognet9100]

OK thank you very much!

[@dominicvollath209]

That thing looks like a grill haha

[@thomaspick4123]

Yours is silver sparkle. I believe there were champagne sparkle and green mint sparkle models.

[@ThePianoforever]

Also the very early ones were brown as I remember (non-sparkle top). I have been told that the tops were built by a boating supply company and he used whatever he had available at the time.

[@pieceworkstudios]

haha, if that case had a tape recorder in it it probably wouldn't be boring!

[@rainbowbridge4766]

Yeah the Rhodes bass was never recorded playing Riders On The Storm

[@ThePianoforever]

If you listen carefully you will see I never said the Piano Bass was used on Riders on The Storm, what I said was the Fender Rhodes was used on Riders on The Storm. The Doors did use the Piano Bass and the Vox Continental on other songs though.

[@rainbowbridge4766]

ThePianoforever Well i guess im just being picky.. the round keys was new knowledge for me though!

[@Posijax]

Cool 😎

[@coldramentpm1013]

came here precisely because of the doors, funny

[@dhon-rh6no]

didn't know it had heavy keys

[@piafounetMarcoPesenti]

Yes, and it makes it even more incredible that Ray Manzarek managed to play it together with a Vox, Gibson or Hammond organ. Quite different feels on each hand.

[@hombrerusode40anos72]

James hetfield used this live

[@tomiroquai]

Ray didn't played the bass line on Riders on the Storm on the piano bass. Just played it on the regular Rhodes and Jerry Sheff played the bass.

[@ThePianoforever]

You are talking about some studio recordings, live Ray played the piano bass.

[@th3r3ap3r2]

Subbed

[@billlowe6883]

Harold Rhodes 👍

[@sanchezmandelbrot6130]

7:27

[@CenobiteBeldar]

I seriously wish these were still made. Granted they're not used anymore which is incredibly disappointing and uncreative of the talented artists, STILL.

[@dontudarewatchvideosonmych6602]

OMG!!! 😱

[@asssaf6]

Thank you, great video! I think the 11 in the timestamp stand for the 11th week of 1972

[@DuncanThomas-lq7lq]

4:59