1974 Plymouth Valiant Review - What Normal People Drove In The 1970s & 1980s!

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@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 9 ай бұрын
Dang, as a kid I was in so many of these... grandparents, aunts, hockey coach picking us up for games... later driven by friends and cousins once they were 500$ to 700$ used cars to use for school. Even though it was only abut 100 HP, the Slant 6 is one of the most durable and reliable engines ever made.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@Jeff-bd5yo
@Jeff-bd5yo 9 ай бұрын
We here in Sweden used these as fleet vehicles used by police and taxi companies. Families also had them primarily as station wagons.
@michaelneufeld1334
@michaelneufeld1334 9 ай бұрын
At $4,200 in 1974 dollars during the gas crisis this was a lot of money. Even my Mom and Dad solidly suburban Northern Virginia middle class could only afford a $2,600 1974 Chevy Vega. That craptastic rusting pile of garbage only made it 8 years and about 85,000 before heading to the junkyard. Now I only buy cars that are at least 7 years old with 90-100k miles. Run them to 220k miles then repeat.
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
Crap-Tastic. Now that's a Bart Simpson word for you. But you're right: cars were not cheap in those days! And when the gas crisis started, I was stuck with an 11-mile-per-gallon monster. It took me until 1980 to afford something new and better.
@ceasarjamestolentino9749
@ceasarjamestolentino9749 8 ай бұрын
The cars you said that run 220k miles can run longer up to 700-800k miles until it starts having problems at 900k miles then completely stops working at one million miles then it goes to the junkyard at 2 million miles then the cycle repeats I know that because a lot of my families cars well the older cars are nearly 200k miles while some of my families cars well the even older ones are nearly 300k miles some of my families cars well the even even older cars are nearly 600k miles
@warrenjr527
@warrenjr527 7 ай бұрын
That figure must include many options or is incorrect. I purchased a '72 Duster with larger 225 slant 6 auto transmission, AM radio for $2900 new. My parents bought a '74 Duster similarly equipped. It cost a bit more, but not that much. Those vents he showed must have been ad on AC. Our's didn't have that.
@larryk731
@larryk731 9 ай бұрын
I was a high school senior in 1985 and remember seeing many of these in my high school parking lot - probably handed down from parents.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
By 1985, most 1974 cars had been sent to the scrap yard. The Valiant and Dart were some of the longest lasting cars of their time.
@afoolandhismoneychannel
@afoolandhismoneychannel 9 ай бұрын
Plymouth was actually the lowest Chrysler division, below the (slightly) more upmarket Dodge. Hence why the Valiants had shorter wheelbases (108") than the more 'luxurious' Darts (111"). Even the E-body Barracuda rode on a shorter wheelbase than its sister Challenger for that reason. Of course the exception to this rule was the 1971 Dodge Demon that used the body of the 1970 Plymouth Duster with Dart front sheetmetal added... both these cars shared the Valiant's 108" wheelbase. This 1974 Valiant was the first year that it shared the Dart's 111" wheelbase as Chrysler was in major cost-cutting mode and streamlining its production processes. The sad beginnings of the badge engineering era that eventually bankrupted the company.
@Foxonian
@Foxonian 9 ай бұрын
My first car was 1975 Plymouth Valiant Custom. I got it when I graduated high school back in 1983 and had 100,000 miles on it. It ran like a top for years and I put another 25,000 miles on it before I got rid of it for something slightly newer. Never did any maintenance to it except oil changes.
@TheCarCrazyGuy
@TheCarCrazyGuy 9 ай бұрын
Dennis Weaver drove one in the movie ‘Duel’.
@joediaz1984
@joediaz1984 9 ай бұрын
Duel with tanker truck and won
@mbd501
@mbd501 9 ай бұрын
That's what I think of when I see this car. And they were slow, if the movie is to be believed. He couldn't outrun a big tanker truck.
@McLarenMercedes
@McLarenMercedes 9 ай бұрын
@@mbd501 He wasn't Mario Andretti. Try driving at 95mph on twisty mountain roads using a modern car, let alone a early 70's Plymouth Valiant and you'll soon understand why he couldn't outrun the truck from hell. Some people quote quarter mile times, horsepower numbers and top speeds not realizing that *most roads aren't nice, grippy drag strips or smooth, wide highways* . 60's and 70's cars weren't renowned for their "nimble handling" so I can only imagine how a Plymouth Valiant handles like on the roads portrayed in the movie.
@mbd501
@mbd501 9 ай бұрын
@@McLarenMercedes A big truck would be even worse in the twisties. But IIRC it was on the straightaways when the truck would catch up to him, which is more realistic.
@genericsomething
@genericsomething 9 ай бұрын
"It was made before catalytic converters, so it runs on regular gas."
@johanvangelderen6715
@johanvangelderen6715 9 ай бұрын
This generation Dodge Dart /Plymouth Valiiant originated in 1967. Engine horsepower decreased considerably by 1972, and again in 1974. They had to cope with more strict emissions before the catalytic convertor was introduced in 1975. I drive a 1973 Dodge Dart Swinger for nine years between 1982 and 1991. It was a 318 ci V8. The car was good as a family car. It was not sporty. But handled alright. Your review is quite accurate.
@jonathancunningham8739
@jonathancunningham8739 5 ай бұрын
Most sawed those converters off though I see some of these old cars and they definitely don't have one.
@Dankcatvacs
@Dankcatvacs 9 ай бұрын
had a shiver of nostalgia when i saw those door handles on the inside. my mom had a green dart like this when i was 3 or 4 . the starter sound the smells ,vanillarama, vinyl. awesome cars total gem.
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
Those inside door handles,side view mirrors,gear knob, & top of fender turn signal indicators' design are SO Chrysler!! 🤣🤣
@Low760
@Low760 9 ай бұрын
They should have worked with Chrysler Australia and got the newer valiants.😊
@christopheryoung3356
@christopheryoung3356 9 ай бұрын
I had a 1974 slant-six Dodge Dart. The interior looked exactly the same except for the badging and the exterior was the same except for the front grill and the badging. It was almond-colored with a tan vinyl roof. I kicked that car around all through college. You couldn't kill it.
@Andyface79
@Andyface79 9 ай бұрын
Please for the love of god can people stop turning these into muscle cars?
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@VA3DSO
@VA3DSO 9 ай бұрын
Yep! My buddy had a 74 Valiant in high school with the slant six. It was a lot of fun! Thanks for bringing back the good memories!
@tomb7382
@tomb7382 9 ай бұрын
Our neighbor, a "spinster" in her late 50's brought the Dodge version, The Dart Custom, brand new. A little darker blue, same blue interior, but with a black vinyl top. I believe it was a 1975 model. Funny thing is, she also learned how to drive on that car. Her brother -in-law would take her out through the streets of Brooklyn NY. Once she got her license, on Saturday afternoons, she would take her niece, and all of us (the kids on the block) out for lunch and to the movies. She was a nice lady and treated us all so nicely. She ended up getting married when she was in her early sixties for the first time. Her and her husband moved off our block, but she would still come by and take her niece and use kids out for lunch. Lots of great memories based around that Dodge Dart !!!
@andydanko7074
@andydanko7074 9 ай бұрын
I think the best word to describe this car is utilitarian😊
@vashawndiromano
@vashawndiromano 9 ай бұрын
'73 Valiant (with vertical tail lights) is actually Homer Simpson's pink sedan so the everyman's car description is spot on 😁
@mat13174
@mat13174 9 ай бұрын
My first car ride when I was brought home from the hospital was in my dad’s 69 Valiant Signet. It was blue with a white top and interior.
@karoltakisobie6638
@karoltakisobie6638 9 ай бұрын
We're Valiants ever made with manual transmission? That would be interesting to drive.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
Yes. Some models had 3 on the tree, 3 on the floor or 4 on the floor.
@glennso47
@glennso47 9 ай бұрын
The slant 6 was probably the best engine Chrysler ever made.
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
​@@rightlanehog3151yes! My evil step 'Father' had a relative with a purple Plymouth Scamp w/ a 4 on the floor in 1972!
@johanvangelderen6715
@johanvangelderen6715 9 ай бұрын
Yes they were. Engine choices were two six cylinders, a 198 and 225 ci. The V8 choices were the 318 and 340 cubic inches.
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 9 ай бұрын
My '74 Duster was three-on-the-tree.
@chrisallen766
@chrisallen766 9 ай бұрын
These used to be in the classifieds as a "good station car". Something you can drive to the train station and leave all day there
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 9 ай бұрын
I'm told that my great-grandparents had a green over green one back in the 70s. I like the styling of these, it's simple but effective. The reverse-curve back window is unusual. I've always liked Chrysler's fender turn signal lights.
@davidzatz
@davidzatz 9 ай бұрын
The stylists wanted that window, it's nice looking but horribly bad for the aerodynamics. Dusters went with a flush window that bulged outward based on lessons from the Charger 500. I once asked someone in the program why they never changed the window on the sedan, and the answer was because the Valiant barely broken even most years at that point, so there wasn't money in the program for that sort of thing. (If there had been money for it in the planned 1967 facelift, it would have been spent on the 1970 Duster! After the Duster was a success, they still didn't get that facelift money back.)
@Crispychicken4u
@Crispychicken4u 9 ай бұрын
I think Dennis Weaver can comment about this car’s reliability….😓
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
He should. That car stood up to a severe pounding.
@benila3992
@benila3992 9 ай бұрын
The movie Duel is the first thing that comes to my mind when I see one of these!
@OnlyTheFinest125
@OnlyTheFinest125 9 ай бұрын
It's most known for me from the movie DUEL
@joseluisguajardo3616
@joseluisguajardo3616 9 ай бұрын
I was 15 when I drove my mothers 1974 Dodge Dart sedan taking my brothers and sisters to school back in Mexico, this car had the 318 v8 engine, this car was so good and fast I loved it. The only thing it was hard to start in the mornings, it was aqua blue with a white top, we put about 150,000 miles in the six years my parents kept it,. Very reliable. That was when the cars were cars.
@saigoncowboy8149
@saigoncowboy8149 7 ай бұрын
I had an emerald green 74 Valiant back in the 90's that I bought from an abandon car auction for $60. The car actually ran with a new battery but the radiator needed to be flushed and the carburetor rebuilt. Great looking car inside and out. The biggest eye soar was that the vinyl top had deteriorated and much of it on the top came off. At the time I didn't appreciate what I had. I thought it was a grandma's car and since I was still in my 20's decided to sell it for something more sportier. I wish I had held on to it. I had been looking for a Plymouth Valiant video on YT but like you said, they are usually very short videos, mostly people trying to sell the vehicle. It's nice to see something a little more detailed.
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 9 ай бұрын
I love these Valiants. They hark back to the staid Ford, Chevy and Mopar family sedans of the '50s - before the horsepower wars, before family cars got huge. Function over style. They didn't change much from the '67 redesign. Chrysler had planned to replace the Valiant and Dart, but lacked the budget. In '73 the company had high hopes for the restyled big '74 C-bodies - the previous "fuselage" version had sold well, then gas prices tripled over a few weeks. These 60s-ish Valiants kept selling well. Consumer Reports loved them.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
In 1974 a Valiant or Dart with a Slant 6 was very likely the most reliable American car you could buy.
@daphnevandervalk273
@daphnevandervalk273 9 ай бұрын
Oh wow, this is wonderful! My parents bought a new ‘74 Valiant back in the day, and it did indeed become the car I drove to school in the late ‘80s. Ours was brown with a white top. I recognize every inch of what you showed from the cool turn indicators to the dome light to the exact same dashboard…what memories! After the Valiant died my “new” car was a ‘67 Dart, which also happened to have that crazy concave rear window. I’m so happy to see such a well-preserved specimen of this Valiant - thank you!
@shept.7736
@shept.7736 9 ай бұрын
My family owns the dodge version of this, last year 76' dart swinger special 2dr hardtop (pfp). Wonderful car, the slant makes fairly adequate power for what it is, no roasting tires or anything of that nature. It does have suspension mods as well as drivetrain so even with the overboosted steering it corners super well and is very planted. The pillarless looks so incredible!
@richardhansen7915
@richardhansen7915 9 ай бұрын
My girlfriend, soon to be wife, had a Swinger when we first started dating. It was a reasonably fun and dependable car. She still talks about it 40 years later.
@johnfrakes4746
@johnfrakes4746 9 ай бұрын
Indeed. The slant 6 is one most bulletproof engines ever made! Albeit, not overly powerful.
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 9 ай бұрын
It's like a Toyota engine. So weak it can't hurt itself.
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 9 ай бұрын
​@bldontmatter5319 not modern Toyota engines though.
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 9 ай бұрын
@@damilolaakanni eh, most modern Toyota engines feel gutless too.
@kennethmanning9984
@kennethmanning9984 9 ай бұрын
We had one in orange with black roof
@1983rush
@1983rush 9 ай бұрын
REALLY GREAT EFFORT in having cars clean in review!
@bobtepedino5661
@bobtepedino5661 2 ай бұрын
Throughout the '60s and '70s, we working-class Italian kids would put on our school uniforms and ride to Church in Plymouths like this one, parking it over by the softball field so it wouldn't get dinged. Our fancy Sicilian cousins - who call Sinatra "Frankie" and (GASP!) take the Eucharist in their hand - glided their gleaming Oldsmobiles right up to the sacristy, arriving like Pavarotti with the windows rolled up to feign air conditioning. Now those WOP-wagons are gone, and with them disappeared a cultural touchstone... 🥲😪
@markwilliams2620
@markwilliams2620 28 күн бұрын
"WOP-wagon". Have to add that one to the automotive vernacular. Grazie paisano!
@currier207
@currier207 9 ай бұрын
My first car when I was 16 and 2012 was a 1971 Plymouth valiant. Slant Six with an automatic, I love that thing to death. painted red and white like Christine,.
@4yules
@4yules 9 ай бұрын
my mom had one of these with a 340 engine in it:))))))))))))) flying out the passenger door..haha...i remember that feeling going around corners back in the day:)
@derkommissar4986
@derkommissar4986 9 ай бұрын
Dude your killing it with these car reviews! Personally I think the malaise era had some of the most beautiful cars, i know I'm weird but I adore this 70s 80s era!
@kevinfestner6126
@kevinfestner6126 9 ай бұрын
I drove a 74 Dart 4 door, brown, black vinyl top, auto, with the 318 V8.
@flashnmb1
@flashnmb1 2 ай бұрын
Ooh Speed!
@JakubSemoda
@JakubSemoda 9 ай бұрын
Hey Zack, as a guy from "Eastern block" it's so interesting for me, to see, what car normal people drove, in comparison with what I'm used to see here, and also in comparison with what we think, was normal, here in Slovakia (Challengers, Broughams, Rivera's, and so on). J
@joealvarez4157
@joealvarez4157 9 ай бұрын
Also, Plymouth was the lower line, then Dodge, on top was Chrysler.
@CravingClassics
@CravingClassics 9 ай бұрын
Great cars , simple, and get goin with the right setup! I had a sedan with a factory 318 mild modification. Lil sleeper. Great review as always
@someonecalledeulogio2280
@someonecalledeulogio2280 9 ай бұрын
A neighboor has a blue valiant sedan abandoned in front of his house
@afoolandhismoneychannel
@afoolandhismoneychannel 9 ай бұрын
My first car was a 1973 Dodge Dart sedan, basically the sister car to this Valiant. Mine was also a 225 slant-six but had the cool 3-on-the-tree manual transmission.
@klwthe3rd
@klwthe3rd 5 ай бұрын
3 on the tree kicks ass!
@bazilwreckerloughead
@bazilwreckerloughead 9 ай бұрын
My mother had one of these when I was a kid, then my older brother smashed it.
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 9 ай бұрын
Learned to drive in one of these.
@MrTPF1
@MrTPF1 9 ай бұрын
My Dad had a '72 Dart, and it hauled our family of 6 all around with no problems. The Valiant you have in this video had dealer-installed A/C which ours did not have. Ours didn't have power steering or brakes either.
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
I think that even on most small American cars in the early to mid 70s,a/c,power brakes & power steering were still options,not on base models. Someone correct me,if I'm wrong?
@rickloera9468
@rickloera9468 9 ай бұрын
Actually, this is factory A/C. From 1967 to 1976, this generation of Dart, Valiant, Duster, Demon, Scamp, etc. had underdash A/C. It definitely looks like its 🎉dealer installed, but it isn't. My grandparents had the Ubiquitous Dodge Dart Swinger, which was the vehicle that let people know that you had made to senoir citizen status. It had Factory A/C, which was underdash exactly like this one. My aunts 71 Duster had the same A/C too.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
@@markhealey9409 Our family had a 1973 Duster when I started to drive. It was green with a green vinyl interior that froze you in winter and seared you in summer. The only options it had were an automatic transmission and AM radio. The steering was non-power as were the four wheel drum brakes. Eventually the Duster was replaced with a 75 Plymouth Fury sedan. It was also green with a green vinyl interior. It had the same Slant 6 engine as the Duster. It was substantially bigger than the Duster but its only upgraded creature comforts were power steering and an AM/FM radio. The brakes remained non-power but in front they were discs rather than drums.
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 9 ай бұрын
That slant 6 was a very durable engine. WOW, less than 20K miles? I’d love to buy that vehicle
@davidzatz
@davidzatz 9 ай бұрын
Yup, that's the real miles. I'd entertain offers ;)
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 9 ай бұрын
@@davidzatz Well, I’ve been begging my wife to allow me to buy it, but she’s given me a flat out NO. We would only be able to drive it in the late spring, summer and early fall as we live on a private road in a very mountainous area of north central Washington state and we get 5-7 feet of snow every winter. I’d be so afraid of wrecking it. Those old slant 6 engines were known for 250K to 300K miles. In 96 we were living in a warmer climate and we bought a 73 Chevy Nova 2 door with an in-line 6cyl. We bought it off the original owner and it had only 60K original miles. The gold paint had faded, but the original white bucket seats and rear bench seat looked new. No door dings. Other than the faded paint, it looked showroom new. The old lady was in her 80s when she sold it. She was afraid that because of her age, she would have an accident, so she decided to move into an assisted living facility. She sold us that Nova for $500. It needed front coil springs, (the 73-74 front coil springs would get fatigued) so when you’d go over a speed bump it would slip the transmission out of drive and into neutral. We replaced the front and rear springs and I put a set of knockoff “Centerlines” wheels. We drove the car until it hit 160K miles and sold it to a neighbor’s son, who had been saving his money. We sold it to him for $3,500. After owning it for a month he had it painted in a bright metallic blue with white “racing stripes”. About a month later, he rolled it and totaled it. I’m glad he was ok, but I was sad that he wrecked the car.
@philipp9481
@philipp9481 9 ай бұрын
Great review! As i said at another video - it would be really cool for future-videos to just a 1-2 minute POV without talking. Startup and a short drive. 👍
@robertj2
@robertj2 9 ай бұрын
A little old lady at 60? Shame 😮😂. Great video.
@Eolafan1008
@Eolafan1008 3 ай бұрын
My first leased company car was exactly like this one except it was brown with a tan vinyl roof and tan interior.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
Zack, First off, I too would like to thank Dave for sharing his car with us. This prosaic Plymouth Valiant, equipped with the Slant 6, was one of the most popular cars in 1974 and probably the most reliable American car made that year. As the Japanese brands had not yet fully found their stride, it was also one of the most reliable cars in the world. Those who find the powder blue colour a bit unusual may find reassurance in the fact Plymouth offered 20 other paint choices in 1974. Those who lived through the 70s will remember the baby blue hue ruled for a few years in cars and fashion. 🤩
@billj8527
@billj8527 9 ай бұрын
Had a 72 Satellite Custom in the same color but with a black vinyl top. The baby blue was very popular back then. Rust eventually killed it; wouldn't pass the state inspection by 1981 because of rust underneath.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
@@billj8527 Baby blue was everywhere until suddenly it was nowhere. Our 73 Duster and 75 Fury were both equipped with Slant 6s. Both eventually succumbed to terminal rust damage here in Ontario with the engines still working fine. I have learned from traumas of the past and today I drive a rust-free 2005 car that gets taken for rustproofing treatment every year. BTW did your Satellite have a 318?
@billj8527
@billj8527 9 ай бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 Yes, the trusty 318 with Torqueflite. Got about 13-14 mpg any way you drove it.. easy or hard. Still drive Mopar, a lot different than they were back then.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
@@billj8527 My last Mopar was a 1980 Diplomat that I bought with low mileage in 1993. Once again it had a Slant 6 but this time it had a 2 barrel carb. Like the ones before it, the engine easily outlasted everything else.
@billj8527
@billj8527 9 ай бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 Loved the Diplomat/Fury of the early 80s and then the Dynasty in the later 80s. Not as crazy about the 'cab forward' designs of the 90s to early 2000s; made maintenance a nightmare. Unfortunately Chrysler is a shadow of its former self. When it comes time for a newer car will probably have to go elsewhere.
@joemartin7251
@joemartin7251 9 ай бұрын
When I was a teenager, these cars were a dime a dozen. Went through so many of them. Not that they were easily destroyed, but we (friends and I) would pick one up for no more than 200 bucks, usually under a hundred and just thrashed them to smitherenes. One late Saturday night, after much tomfoolery, we drove home after barrel rolling it through a ditch! The steer tires were so malined that they cambered in about 20 degrees. Still managed to drive. One of my buddies face smacked the hard metal dash, breaking his teeth, had an emergency dental appointment. Pulled the suspension apart and made repairs. Put plexiglass in where the glass had broken and continued to drive and have fun. Miracle we are still alive. Great times. tho!
@richardwilliams5842
@richardwilliams5842 9 ай бұрын
My family used to have one in mid 80's 👍👍👍
@glennso47
@glennso47 9 ай бұрын
Dennis Weaver drove a Plymouth Valiant in the movie Duel. A 1970 model I think.
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
'71.
@mbd501
@mbd501 9 ай бұрын
According to Wikipedia, multiple cars were used in filming, including a '70 and a '71.
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
@@mbd501 Damned Hollywood Directors! Why wreck just one Mopar when you can wreck fifteen? (Dukes of Hazzard, The Blues Brothers, etc.)
@mikuro7992
@mikuro7992 Ай бұрын
Valiants are popular here in Switzerland aswell. They were even built here till 1972, after that they were imports from the states. I've bought mine 2.5 years ago at 24y/o and it is very interesting how many people still recognize this car because many people drove this car in Switzerland/Europe aswell. Mine also is a '74 with the 225/3spd auto, 4 door body but in "Deep Sherwood" dark green with a non-original beige interor.
@chriswright2250
@chriswright2250 9 ай бұрын
My sister had the same model. Her model had a black roof. Basic but Great.
@jacobtonge5386
@jacobtonge5386 9 ай бұрын
Less than 20,000 miles, a real example of 70's steel
@klwthe3rd
@klwthe3rd 5 ай бұрын
I just wanted to add that you often when reviewing Chrysler Corp cars get the hierarchy wrong. Plymouth was the entry level division, not a step above Dodge. The correct order is as follows from highest to lowest: Imperial/Chrysler/Desoto/Dodge/Plymouth.
@Imnotyourdoormat
@Imnotyourdoormat Ай бұрын
*255 WTF? Thats a ... **_"225!!!"_** The legendary **_"Slant-6"_** came in 170, 198, and 225 c.i.d. Although it was the 170 that was engineering perfection.*
@rickloera9468
@rickloera9468 9 ай бұрын
If you want to compare the car to something from 1967, then look no further than a 1967 Dodge Dart four-door. Exactly the same green house as this car. The 67 Valiant four-door had a shorter wheelbase than the Dart. So, a 67 Valiant roofline looks slimmer and better to me. Just watch Duel from 1971. Dennis Weaver drives a 1971 Valiant, and you can see the slimmer C post. The 67 Valiant roofline stayed until 1973. For 1974, the Valiant shared the roofline and longer wheelbase as the Dart.
@weegeemike
@weegeemike 9 ай бұрын
Correction: Plymouth was at the BOTTOM of the Chrysler hierarchy, competing with Ford and Chevy. Dodge was meant to be a step above the low price class Plymouth, like Pontiac to Chevy. However as time went on the differences between the brands became nonexistent which lead to Plymouth's death. However even in the late 90s, Plymouths were often way more barebones when it came to standard feature, the Breeze and Voyager were good examples of this.
@curtcollett2893
@curtcollett2893 9 ай бұрын
My bronze 75 was almost a duplicate of this. Loved the comfort, pull out parking brake, hood mounted turn signal lights, great AC. Did not like the ballast resistors blowing, anemic horn and power, rain leaking into interior and trunk, and vinyl top discoloration. Appreciate the review!
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
Plymouths were the cheapest of the Chrysler Corporation line up,Dodge in the mid-range,& Chrysler luxury. I always thought the turn signal lights on the tops of fenders were more for cars beside you to see that you were indicating a lane change,rather than for the driver??!! Although I'm sure they were probably also for the driver,as well as the ones on the dash.
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
It was DODGE at the bottom and PLYMOUTH in the middle. I owned several of them fifty years ago. Those fender blinkers were actually to show the driver if the blinkers were working or not. If it blinked, it was working. If it just stayed lit and did not blink, the light on the bumper was burned out.
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
​​@@misterwhipple2870interesting,thanks for the info,so way back then,it was a turn signal that stayed lit,rather than blinking very quickly,that indicated a blown bulb?! I was always quite sure in the late 70s and later,when Plymouths & Dodges were usually pretty much exactly the same cars,apart from badging & minor details,that Plymouths WERE cheaper than Dodges?? So,did Chrysler swap Dodge & Plymouth's price segment in later years,then? For instance,I always thought Voyagers were cheaper than Caravans??
@rogerstaats1449
@rogerstaats1449 9 ай бұрын
The left fender turn signal on my mother's '75 Valiant would glow if you stepped on the gas too much, indicating you are using too much gas. LOL! It was attached to the vacuum system, and you couldn't start the car unless your seatbelt was fastened. I learned to drive in that car in 1981.
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
@@rogerstaats1449 🤣🤣
@joealvarez4157
@joealvarez4157 9 ай бұрын
A slant six Mopar would have a Torqueflite A 904 automatic transmission, the baby brother to the legendary A727. 904s were light weight but very tough.
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
The Pork-Flite was the successor to the famous 1950s Slush-O-Matic.
@jeffcharlton9660
@jeffcharlton9660 9 ай бұрын
My Dad had a '74 Scamp (2 door version), the exact same color and hubcaps but with a black vinyl top.
@paulsheehan5010
@paulsheehan5010 9 ай бұрын
I had a 1972 Valiant, with all drum brakes, when wet, wouldn't stop for all the beans in Boston.
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
1:50 "two-fifty-five"??? It's a 225, old buddy.
@OsbornTramain
@OsbornTramain 8 ай бұрын
The funny thing is you say it has a 60's style and then compare it to the 67 Belvedere, you should have compared it to the 67 Valiant and you would have seen it's almost identical, that Series of Valiant was introduced in 1967 and went thru all the way up till 1976 model year. 10 full years of production. Totally classic styling, very clean and unoffensive. One correction, Dodge was a step up from Plymouth, Plymouth was the low priced model from Chrysler Corp, part of the "Low Price Three", Chevy, Ford and Plymouth. The ranking at Chrysler was Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, Chrysler and Imperial on top.
@MREnzoHerbie
@MREnzoHerbie 9 ай бұрын
2 Videos, AT THE SAME MINUTE. 😃
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 9 ай бұрын
dang :)
@highlycaffeinated6864
@highlycaffeinated6864 9 ай бұрын
This reminds me of my grandfathers car, it was called a Plymouth Scamp. I dont remember much about it because I was so little when he drove it but I do remember the smell of the vinyl covering the seats made me sick once on a really hot day and I threw up in the back of car lol.
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
My evil Step 'Father' had a relative w/ a purple Plymouth Scamp...she drove my Mum & him from their church wedding to the reception in it,in rural Pennsylvania in October 1972! 🤣🤣
@rickloera9468
@rickloera9468 9 ай бұрын
Your grandfather's car was a two door hardtop. Same car with two more doors.
@BuccWylde
@BuccWylde 5 ай бұрын
Yep, my first car was a 74 Scamp. Exact same car as the Dart and Valiant. Chrysler loved to make two or three of the same car and then just pop a different grill and side badge on them and pretend they were offering three different cars, lol. All three models came with your choice of a 3spd manual or 3spd automatic, a puny 198 six, 225 slant six, or 318 V8. My Scamp had the 225, automatic with a white vinyl hardtop. Produced 95 hp and had a very sad top speed of 90mph. Bought it for 500 bucks in '85 with 40k miles on it. Massive amenities like AC/heat, floor mats, and an AM radio !!! In all seriousness though, it was transportation for highschool and to my after school job, so broke me wasn't complaining.
@caseyjones1999
@caseyjones1999 9 ай бұрын
I always got the impression that when they were selling power steering back then, it was overboosted otherwise you weren't getting your money's worth?
@johanvangelderen6715
@johanvangelderen6715 9 ай бұрын
Chrysler power steering resembled an arcade game. One could turn with one finger. No road feedback at all.
@davidzatz
@davidzatz 9 ай бұрын
@@johanvangelderen6715 Depends which car and trim you got. Towing packages on the Valiant used the police power steering setup, so it was very precise and much more like a modern car. Rick Ehrenberg (Mopar Action) did an article on retrofitting the police “chuck” for firmer feel steering-I've thought about it but never done it. There is some road feedback on this lower-end model, it's not as overboosted as the big cars would be, and you'll hurt your finger a little if you turn it that way ;)
@richardhansen7915
@richardhansen7915 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! My parents bought a 1974 Valiant new, and I took my driver's license test in it in 1976. Red with a black vinyl top. Not necessarily a great car, but I liked it a whole lot better than the 1974 Impala they bought soon after!
@matthrivnak6572
@matthrivnak6572 9 ай бұрын
Dad drove a 1974 Dodge dart with a 318 V8, great car!
@royperry2859
@royperry2859 9 ай бұрын
My first car was a 1971 Dodge Dart Swinger 2 door hardtop. Brings back memories😊
@motored6089
@motored6089 9 ай бұрын
What’s the name and paint code of that color?
@afoolandhismoneychannel
@afoolandhismoneychannel 9 ай бұрын
B1 Powder Blue, I believe.
@kirksway1
@kirksway1 9 ай бұрын
That is such a good looking car. I love the color and the styling. Fun fact: the emblem in the steering wheel was not the Plymouth logo (that was a image of the Plymouth ship)it was the symbol for the highest trim level of the Valiant.
@davidzatz
@davidzatz 9 ай бұрын
By then they had changed logos to the rocket ship, reflecting their work on the moon rockets, which most people have forgotten.
@klwthe3rd
@klwthe3rd 5 ай бұрын
@@davidzatz So that symbol is of a rocket ship??? Was the above comment correct about it only being used on the highest trim level?
@motalesdave
@motalesdave 5 ай бұрын
@@klwthe3rd Yes, it's a rocket ship, no, it wasn't only used on the highest trim. My car is *not* the highest trim. It's a base model with a couple of added features.
@klwthe3rd
@klwthe3rd 5 ай бұрын
@@motalesdave I love that steering wheel with the fake wood insert with that emblem. I have seen it on other 1974, 1975 and 1976 Plymouths. I wonder how many years Plymouth used that emblem?
@o0xjaymex0o
@o0xjaymex0o 9 ай бұрын
My friends mom had one in the 90s. Sooooo many memories of having to be picked up by her in that car...lol. Eventually my grandmother bought me a 76 Scamp in 96 for my first car. If you haven't done one that would be so damn rad to see. 😅 My second car in *cough cough, 97, was a Fury III 4 door sport. Another that would be awesome to see.
@misterwhipple2870
@misterwhipple2870 9 ай бұрын
I had a 1969 Fury III, and it was a good-looking car and I loved it - except for the 11-miles-per-gallon part . . .
@sasz2107
@sasz2107 9 ай бұрын
This is Dave Zatz's car, isn't it?
@RaviPillay-r7f
@RaviPillay-r7f 6 ай бұрын
IN.SOUTH AFRICA.we.had.the.valiant..barracuda between 1966..and..1974.. great..cars👍🏿🇿🇦
@mimelio
@mimelio 9 ай бұрын
225 not 255 slant 6
@davidzatz
@davidzatz 9 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that was a slip of the tongue he missed in editing!
@MREnzoHerbie
@MREnzoHerbie 9 ай бұрын
9:22 Barracuda engine be like. 😂
@ManiaMusicChannel
@ManiaMusicChannel 9 ай бұрын
Actually Plymouth was the cheap brand of the Chrysler Corporation, Dodge was a midrange brand
@SpynCycle57
@SpynCycle57 Ай бұрын
My uncle bought a 1968 Valiant new. Looked very like the 1974, minus the stand-off bumpers. Basic reliable transportation.
@johnperry1334
@johnperry1334 2 ай бұрын
Check out a 1974 Chrysler Valiant from Australia. Lots more engines to choose from 215,245,265 hemi inline six. 318,360 V8 and maybe the last of 340 In Australia. Bodies were sedan, wagon, ute and two door hardtop, also Check out the Valiant charger. On a smaller wheel base..
@michaeltutty1540
@michaeltutty1540 Ай бұрын
A beautiful car. The Valiant Signet was the equivalent of the Dodge Dart Custom. There is one item incorrect on this car. The turn signal lenses were clear through the end of the 75 model year. The engine in a 225cid. Light steering means it has the optional power steering. There were 3 steering box options. The base equipment was unassisted slow ratio. One up was fast ratio unassisted. Last was the power assist with a ratio between the two unassisted ratios. There were also 3 different brake systems. All were dual. You had the base 4 wheel unassisted drum brakes. Next up was unassisted front disc. The top was vacuum assisted front discs. Plymouth was below Dodge in the Chrysler hierarchy. 74 was the first year Valiant sedan shared a body with Dart in the 4 door lineup. Scsmp was always on the Dart platform. Dart Demon/Sport were in the shorter Plymouth platform. If there was no foot pump for the windshield washer, the car has the optinal 3 speed wipers. One thing you got ALMOST right is the basic design of the csr. That body started like as the 67 Dart, Dart 270, and Swinger 2 door hsrdtop. When the designers showed the rear windo to Pittsburgh Glass, they were told that it was impossible to make the rear window. One of the designers picked up a front windshield and put it in place. Pittsburgh was forced to admit that just maybe they could make tge glass. One last thing: The 225 has an undeserved reputation. I learned to drive on a 72 Dart sedan that was replaced with a pristine 75 Dart Swinger. Both has the 1bbl 225. When laden, they were painfully slow. They were thirsty laden or not. Neither Dart matched the fuel consumption of my 78 Buick Electra Limited with the Buick 5.7 litre (350) V8. They also took a fair bit of maintenance to keep them running right. A major tune up twice a year, and that included gapping the valves. It was not until 1980 that the 225 got hydraulic lifters. The interior of this car is the base Signet seats. There was a 40/20/40 bucket seat with fixed centre armrest that wax quite comfortable. If I were to buy one of these cars now it would have to be a 75 Dart Special Edition 2 door hardtop with the 318 4bbl. In Canada, cars with either 1 or 4bbl carburetors were not equipped with a catalytic converter. Cars with 2bbl carbs came with a cat.
@stickshiftdriver1832
@stickshiftdriver1832 9 ай бұрын
The Valiant was the type of cars the kids would go cruising in to look at the cool muscle cars of kids were driving
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it was the kind of car you took for granted until you got older and realized how good it was.
@stickshiftdriver1832
@stickshiftdriver1832 9 ай бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 yeah it was the go to car for cruising, going to the arcade, movies, or skating with friends.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 9 ай бұрын
@@stickshiftdriver1832 When I started driving in 1980, we had a base, base model Duster and Valiants, Darts and Dusters were everywhere. Going by memory, those models proved to be the longest lasting American cars of the 1970s.
@eddieschwab864
@eddieschwab864 9 ай бұрын
The gauge cluster inside the 74 Valiant is actually the same gauge cluster in the 66 Belvedere... Forward indicators for the turn signals is a pretty common thing in the seventies. I forgot that Valiant and Dart had them, but across the aisle at GM I know that my parents 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville had them as well.
@gzuz4148
@gzuz4148 9 ай бұрын
Homer's car
@That_AMC_Guy
@That_AMC_Guy 9 ай бұрын
225 cubic inches. Not 255. It's weird to think how popular the Valiant *WAS* and yet Chrysler had almost forgotten about it. By 1970, Valiant had ONE model: the 4-door Sedan. The Valiant convertible had been discontinued and shifted to the Barracuda line. The wagon was discontinued at the end of 1966. The 2-door sedan had been discontinued in 1969 and the 2-door hardtop would sit out a whole season before coming back in 1971 as the Scamp. The Sportiest Valiant was the Duster. We wouldn't see a Valiant hardtop again until 1974, when the Brougham trimline offered a hardtop. And, you have it backwards. Plymouth was the entry level offering; Dodge was the mid-price range model. Chrysler of course, on top.
@ajaykumargoel9398
@ajaykumargoel9398 9 ай бұрын
This is just like the car in Duel (1971)
@daviddesmond2143
@daviddesmond2143 2 ай бұрын
My frugal Dad went out on his own and bought a new 1965 Dodge Coronet 4 door back when I was 16. It had NO OPTIONS! No radio or antenna, no rear window defroster (in Connecticut-it snows) NO Power steering, NO Power Brakes! No nothing. 3 on the tree with the slant 6. It was a very crude car. The dash full of poorly aligned plastic that would squeak at times. Dodge was definitely quite a few rungs down on the cool pole. This tan turd had a vynal interior and no carpeting. When I was 19 I hit some black ice at 45 mPH and hit a phone pole head on. I passed out. Woke up and the pole had put an 18" indentation in the front end. I was way out in the country with no one around so I took off my belt and used it to drive the car 30 miles to home. The radiator was so far back it did not get damaged. Fixed the body damage myself.
@matthewgodwin3050
@matthewgodwin3050 3 ай бұрын
Two of my all time favourite Mopars; The 1967 Plymouth Barracuda, and the 1974 Plymouth Valiant. Although, to be fair, my list of all time favourite Mopars includes just about everything Chrysler ever made. I have a particular fondness for the Slant Six cars. Love a leaning tower of power.
@richardepstein3494
@richardepstein3494 9 ай бұрын
Had a '70 version. Worst POS ever!! And the dealer at that time in Orange, NJ was equally lousy.
@unitedcity_mc4421
@unitedcity_mc4421 7 ай бұрын
How in the name of hell was it the worst "POS" ever? Those cars were literally indestructible.
@richardepstein3494
@richardepstein3494 7 ай бұрын
I did run it w/o antifreeze or water after an accident and it allowed me to drive a long distance to home. however, it hates to run in cold, damp and rainy weather.
@claylyons6447
@claylyons6447 Ай бұрын
Those Darts and Valiants were very popular in the 1970's. The slant. 6 was a very reliable engine.
@BlackheartCharlie
@BlackheartCharlie 9 ай бұрын
I think you may have missed an important feature. On my Dodge Dart (virtually the same as this Valiant) there were small vent doors down in the footwell of the front seats. You could open these and get a nice flow of fresh air down around your feet as well as using the vent windows for airflow around your face.
@daphnevandervalk273
@daphnevandervalk273 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! I forgot about those!
@rjtobin59
@rjtobin59 8 ай бұрын
@@daphnevandervalk273 and the hinges always broke on them.
@timmcshan3881
@timmcshan3881 3 ай бұрын
I had a 71 valiant scamp. 2 dr hardtop. V8. Bucket seat. Auto in floor console. Wish I’d kept. 10:40
@gyost8147
@gyost8147 4 ай бұрын
Just a few comments to add. Yes, these were popular, reliable, and a good value. They had a reputation for reliability and durability...even Consumer Reports liked them. Yes, some of the colors are really hideous looking now but it was one easy way to make the traditional car seem "new" compared to some of the other crazy cars/options of the times. They were everywhere and people relied on them using them daily. Over the course of the Valiant/Lancer/Dart/Rebel production run, they were sold in many areas of the world (Canada, South America, Australia, South Africa, and parts of Europe (especially the UK), and Asia). The Dodge and Chrysler versions were always sold as "up market" over the Valiant (although in the first year when production started it was just a "Valiant" sold by all of the dealers) and there were physical differences between the models (more than just badges) until the revised US/North America 1974 production. There were also many variations including two door, four door, convertible, station wagon, utility/truck, sport back, hatchback, and sport ute versions (Duster, Demon, Barracuda, Valiant Charger, Drifter, etc). The dash was very complete for 1960 and over the years was available with more or less instrumentation, console, and.seating packages in various markets. The mirrors were in that location because it had been traditional at one point allowing hand adjustment and also allowed movement of the vent windows. US Valiant based cars had emission modifications or controls from 1970 on for all engines. Bumpers had always been good and were improved to comply with government regulations over the years. International production continued through 1982 (including Valiants being produced by Mitsubishi who took over Chrysler Australia). Cup holders with a trashcan or door clip cup holders were available through dealers so they could have bought or added to any car (or cheaper from any auto store). Valiants always outsold Darts in the US and when the production was stopped to make way for the Volare/Aspen (disaster) it really cut into Plymouth sales and Chrysler US profits. Stupid mistake to stop production. Your 1974 cost around $3,000 (depending on package) and was one of 459,000 US Valiant/Duster's sold plus another 109,000 Darts = 568.000. Even the last year of US production with production stopped early and the new Volare /Aspen being available (and promoted) was over 100,000 for the US. BTW, the blinker lights and hood ornament made it easy to parallel park the car as well as know if the blinker was on...
@arnesahlen2704
@arnesahlen2704 5 ай бұрын
Two TWENTY-FIVE Slant Six! I had a '73 Duster, Valiant's sporty sib, then its cousin a '74 Dodge Dart (same colour.) Reliable! So sad the Aspen & Volaré replacements were so recall-prone.
@foggy634
@foggy634 5 ай бұрын
The bench seat with a fold down armrest, upgraded steering wheel, turn indicators, remote outside mirror, passenger mirror....maybe the vinyl roof..an option package ?
@dangeroreilly2028
@dangeroreilly2028 4 ай бұрын
The AC, map light and padded steering wheel were options, probably a "passenger convenience" package. The baby blue looks like B1 paint, which Plymouth called Powder Blue. The Duster and Dart Sport were essentially the same as this you're right; but the other 2 models were coupes and considered more sporty.
@MikeKirichenko967
@MikeKirichenko967 9 ай бұрын
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