1974 Vs 2024: Two Years Of Crisis

[@theipaper]

Which year do you think was more difficult to be a Brit? Let us know in the comments below! If you want to watch more videos about British political history, watch our series on Greatest Speeches here: kzbin.info/aero/PL4UcS198pg2IIatd1V0_4jd3PjvsRctRU

[@Search4Help]

One lesson from history is to repeat the faults over and over again until nothing can be done to solve them

[@MegaRugster]

I was 5 yrs old in 1974 it was one of the best summers Scotland ever had and amazing thunderstorms.

[@theipaper]

Any in 2024??

[@MegaRugster]

@@theipaper Were a few Brownouts in 23/24 the thunderstorms in fife are a bit meh.. no mountains. Summer here can be nice, if it isn't snowing. :D Funny thing about my early years, my dad who was english, would say things like "3 day power in england, but we have a genny, so we have 7 days of power." In fact, having a diesel generator is something my dad installed everytime we moved house. We never had a brown out again.

[@celestialteapot309]

This misses the point, the constant being that the financial sector decides who runs the country, not voters.

[@SwatantraNandanwar]

Also 1964 was a crucial year. When Labour just scrapped in with a majority of 4. And Wilson had the Ian Smith and the Rhodesia problem to deal with. Just like Brexit enough to drain anyones energy.

[@joseph2196]

I wonder why the 3 day weekend has never had the same amount of infamy as the winter of discontent

[@theipaper]

Great point! Do you think it has something to do with the enduring optics of rubbish in the streets & how it ushered in Thatcher?

[@joseph2196]

@theipaper I presume that the election of 1979 was a fundamental realignment in British politics. Additionally Thatcher won a comprehensive mandate in the election as well, leading to 18 years of conservative rule and the eventual formation of New Labour. On the other hand, the 1974 elections were fought in the backdrop of two fading leaders under whose watch the post war consensus had sharply declined and faced economic crises. Neither election provided a clear verdict as well- the February election saw Labour win 4 seats more than the Conservatives in a hung parliament despite winning less votes. Similarly in October, Labpur had a majority of only 3, which did collapse under Callaghan. Thatcher could also be said to have a much more forceful personality and clear fixed ideology unlike Wilson who was considered to be 'opportunistic'. In the documentary of the Winter of Documentary, a journalist was heard mentioning that they exaggerated the scale of the crisis to bring down the Callaghan government. The press was predominantly pro Conservative as well. Lastly the role of the miners who were traditional Labour supporters cannot be ruled out as well.

[@kb4903]

Tory papers always ignore the Tory faults and double down on Labour scrutiny.

[@kb4903]

@@joseph2196what’s the documentary called?

[@joseph2196]

@kb4903 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4q6pIiOhtd_j9kfeature=shared The Winter of Discontent

[@jim-es8qk]

It ended with huge austerity and a Thantcher government.

[@pete__wild]

Here we go… you can tell the I has been bought by the daily mail clowns.

[@ThomasBoyd-q6y]

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[@kb4903]

No poverty in 1974?lol

[@MS-19]

One could note so many parallels between these two election years - 1974 was the first after the UK's entry into what would become the EU, while 2024 was the first after the UK left the EU; also, both years featured elections whose results were disproportionate, with 1974 (February, anyway) seeing Labour win more seats despite the Conservatives getting the most votes, whereas in 2024 Labour won with the smallest share of the vote in electoral history (and it will long be noted that Reform UK, despite polling the third highest share, won less than 1% of the seats). Having not been alive in 1974 I can't comment on which year I think was more difficult to live in, but I was around in 1997 and I feel that Labour's victory in that year was more decisive and positive than in 2024. And, at least pre-Iraq, Blair's government did well enough to maintain public confidence when the following election was called in 2001, while Starmer's has already done enough in less than a year to make it almost certain that Labour will lose the next time round.

[@BONK_2000]

The UK left the EU in 2020, though?

[@MS-19]

@@BONK_2000 Yes, hence my comment that 2024 was the first election to take place after that.

[@BONK_2000]

@@MS-19 Oh, I see what you mean.

[@Mitjitsu]

Far-right riots? I think you meant patriotic.

[@danielabcde4476]

Smashing up your own country is patriotic?