1977 Toyota Celica RestoMod Build - EP14 - FIRST DRIVE!

[@GleepGlop2]

All of these builds make me appreciate the engineering that goes into OEM parts and I'd be inclined to mess with as little of it as humanly possible if I expect any level of street driveability. As soon as I'd start modifying for track performance I'd waive any expectation of a quiet comfortable ride.

[@LOWLUHZEN]

Literally. Original toyota stuff specifically is always so generously engineered I found working on a few is300 and gs cars.

[@BrodeyDoverosx]

A high end suspension will be firm AND supple.

[@romankalyniuk2596]

Ditto! Sorry that the shake down was not satisfactory

[@nikrbawker]

Have to be brave & test stuff out if you want to improve something, with an initial idea considering as many factors as possible although it is hard and not possible to consider every factor in every case. Not a huge fan of the random prices of original parts that's why I've loved aftermarket but for people who have a endless amount of money I could easily see having a OE bias.

[@bigmattolly4910]

That clunk is pinion angle. It will put you sideways under hard brakes into pinion angle push. Put a go pro under the car and film it. Those spherical bearings I ran on my car and the noise and vibration was horrible. So I made the mount to the body a super pro rubber style mount. Much much better and it helped with axle tramp and better articulation under load 👍 good work

[@ttt69420]

A lot of it is natural as well with a light flywheel and a strong lsd/1.5 or 2 way lock.

[@gqswamp]

Flywheel -- If you put in a lightweight flywheel, it can/will resonate. The sound is exactly like what I hear on mine. You'll learn to hate/live with it. My next clutch replacement will be the time I go back to OEM on it. This just made me think for a moment. Wonder if a good harmonic balancer might help... I'm thinking maybe so. Thought I'd share the brainstorming.

[@DahakaCL]

#facts

[@dancarlos1216]

The slight noise is worth the throttle response

[@bobbyhulse378]

The 3000rpm rumble is a very common thing in the Altezza too. If you change to a more solid shifter it will become even more apparent.

[@dancarlos1216]

@@bobbyhulse378 I put a lighter shift knob on my ND1 and that’s the only modification on the whole car, and that made the knob rattle at lower rpm/high load ranges.

[@emc3065]

Could definitely be THE problem or at least dramatically contributing to it. If it happens at a particular RPM, it's definitely some resonance going on. Dual Mass doesn't just make engagement easier, it also eliminates a lot of NVH and resonance. As someone else said though, from experience, if you're building a performance focused car the pick up and responsiveness is worth the noise and harshness.

[@Sorum4Life]

I've been following this build for 6 YEARS NOW and after my deployment, I'm going to get after my 76 liftback. I've been re-watching your older videos so I can start ordering mostly the exact parts you all used I can't wait. (I ordered one part already a LONG time ago and that was 2 speed academy license plate covers)

[@jaelnava_]

Stoked DP is one step closer to the car of his dreams! Really enjoyed this series and sad its coming to an end! Not many well-documented cars built to this degree with custom and one-off parts like this on youtube! Keep it up boys!

[@karmatose]

Nice to see this car rollin'. It's beautiful and y'all should be proud of the work you've done.

[@feelthatfeelthat]

Peter should be proud of the work and Dave should be a proud owner 😊

[@Phil_Baines]

For a street car you'd enjoy having bushed 4-links significantly more. I switched to rose link jointed 4-links in my AE86 but got tired of the clunks. Ended up swapping the ends for urethane (keeping the adjustable links so still tunable) which removed the clunks (same issue, clunks at low speed). Dialing in the working angle for the driveshaft UJ's to both 1.5 degrees front and rear smoothed out the drive as well.

[@mikemikeyee]

T3 makes a brushed link that replaces the heims. Something older corolla dudes is run half heim and half brushed

[@MrIrieviking]

Awesome work!! I loved seeing this car on Street Bandito!!

[@BeardedCarBuddy]

What an epic build this has been. Must be as rewarding as frustrating to be so close to victory!

[@pdx650]

SA, 26 years ago, I enlisted into the Army and sold my '77 OEM Celica (with a trunk, not a fastback). It was a 'GT' trim with a 5-speed manual transmission and the 20R 2.2-litr engine. I bought the car for $700 and wish I still had it. I still have the OEM shift knob from it though.

[@monkeybarmonkeyman]

As pleased as you are with the rear end... OEM cars did not have that noise from gear slack until you had beat the living daylights out it. Think I'd get a true pro to dig into it, configure it, maybe make an episode out of it. Brake/rotor noise also troubles me - but hey, it's just me. Such a fine, fine car otherwise... Connie deserves a massage by the best hands out there 😛

[@shredtheknoll3357]

The bushingless heim joints in the rear translate alot of noise and vibration into the chassis. I had these on my ae86 and ended up switching back to rubber bushings for the rear, and it fixed it.

[@oinojo]

The coast resonance is the gear lash transmitting from your transmission. Its usually contributed by a lightened clutch and flywheel with an old gearbox.

[@JarrodWillemse]

When I added solid subframe bushes and a lightweight flywheel it get this harmonic on decel between 3-4K rpm. I think it’s just harmonics between the engine and driveline.

[@MrBlockoh]

I’m glad to see this car back on the channel!

[@bgee461]

Now you see how much engineering goes into a modern car that can rip, do 300k miles, and not shake the driver into a froth. 😮

[@jlm582]

I love how close DP’s face was to that bolt when he was pressing the pinion out with it.

[@bobbyrios2k223]

So awesome seeing this driving, now for all the minor fixes after such an intense resto build

[@jtjt3823]

Please make a video on tuning the suspension. There are loads of videos on installing the parts but few good ones and tuning the parts. I’ve really enjoyed this build!

[@FirstLast-bi8xi]

Urethane rod ends at one end of the four links will get rid of most of the noise.

[@WIQDTOY1]

I've built a 1971 Celica with a S2000 motor/transmission swap and replaced all my bushings with heim joints. The noise and clunks it made was just what you would naturally hear from a tin can shell from the 70's that's been highly modified and put together with junkyard parts.

[@CoachDAReid]

Guys, this video is the best. Chasing down good experience; I hope it beats out PT’s dithering with old BMW’s for views!

[@anydaynow01]

Loving the warts and all videos in addition to the music montages, this channel is great!

[@1970ronin]

OMG those beautiful noises.... I put in some hush mat with a new carpet kit in my 77 it helps but she's still a 46 year old girl on coilovers and performance tires

[@IkeAndoit]

You topping up the coolant sounded just like my middle of the night trip to the loo.

[@Bye401K]

Late to the party here Dave. But man this reminds me where I'm at with mine. Way way far off from being completed. lol. Also your lucky Nate Gold came through. lol. I'll be reaching out when I get to my rear end. !! Looking good !

[@panicwire]

Such a tease! Can't wait to see it on track

[@adonay944]

Cant beat ITBs for sound

[@1stGenCRXs]

This car is as beautiful from below as it is above. Love the updates and continues improvements your making.

[@shirolee]

Amazing work!!!! And the perfect choice in engine also!

[@mikemikeyee]

Ring and pinions are a dark arts. Especially if using aftermarket gears

[@Killerconceptz]

Love it! I ran into a clunk like that when I slammed my c10, it was pinion angle. Hope that helps!

[@tofubadguy]

Awesome, awesome, awesome guys!!! I'd love to see it again someday.

[@PANTYEATR1]

That 3000 rpm and lower coasting issue could be an issue in the overrun section of the VE or ignition tuning table. Maybe more fuel is needed to add the slightest load or momentum while coasting? I'm having a bucking that produces a diff clunking at 2000 rpms and lower that i suspect is in the tuning. Good video guys🏆

[@myurcek05]

I would suggest checking the trans mount. That could also be passing the NVH into the chassis.

[@tommynobaka]

Funny you guys had that thing about NVH, everytime I hope back in my Civic SI coming from my BMW, the Civic sounds so broken lol. So much more feeling and noise in the Civic but it's normal. The BMW is more quiet and smooth

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

It's so funny to see this, we used to modify the hell out of these cars when I was in high school but nobody took it to that level back then!

[@josephmatuszak3855]

What a glorious sound Connie makes! 🥰

[@Niki_R188]

As always a great vid..just a suggestion..we need more track vids..the builds are amazing we just want to see them at track..that celica sounds amazing..

[@pFbSpecV]

Nice to see some progress on it!! It sounds like a k series to me inside the car.

[@WTFNoNamesLeft2]

That little metal ring around the diff drain hole so oil doesn't run down to the bottom of it and make a mess and also to shield it from road debris... Old Japanese stuff is just so good!

[@tomjones5974]

Yeah my Ford 9" has the same thing

[@jeffreymoore4132]

Kudos for setting up your own diff. I'll rebuild manual trans, engines, and any kind of routine maintainance, but I'll nope on out for differentials. They are so much repetitive work.

[@ierefaanbatchelor2578]

Sounds amazing 👏

[@dumkopf]

16:30 is where the drive starts

[@speedwalker5000]

that sound is chef's kiss 😘

[@ahwee77329]

pico scope has a really nice nvh kit to nail down the noises.

[@Falcon5ive]

16:26 Those grinding sounds, the rattles, the uncomfortable ride/suspension and the shaky steering shows cars have come a long way, classic cars look fantastic but not a lot of fun to drive if you are used to modern cars.

[@sataneatcheese6243]

Those rose joints in the rear are what are causing a lot of your road noise. I'd get the diff checked by a specialist as well.

[@jasonbaltazar8774]

in regards to setting the wear pattern on the coast side, did you experiment with setting the pinion depth? i did notice shims being added for the spacer. but you can move the pinion towards the centerline of the ring gear by adding shims to the other bearing. this would affect both drive and coast side and provide a different range of results for wear patterns after setting preload/lash.

[@papilloncycles3463]

The Lisle funnel system is a great cheap tool, Way easier to use this gravity system than any other burping system. I see problems with airpockets all the time because people don't realize how important it is!

[@coreyscarrepairs]

Sounds to me like normal old school rear end noise being transferred through the cabin because of the lack of rubber bushings. Its the trade off you get with stiffer suspension components.

[@friguy4444]

You may think me insane but I had diff noise troubles in my E46 M3 at very slow speeds while turning. Like in a parking lot. I tried some Royal purple for LSD and it made it worse. I tried some friction modifier additive from Liqui Moli to no avail! Then before I spent $2000 plus on a rebuild I decided to use the actual BMW diff fluid which is STUPID expensive at $90 per 500ML and the diff needed 1.2L of fluid. Which was why I tried the other fluids first. Like magic NO More Noise. That was 4 years ago and it's still as quiet as a mouse. Do what you will with that ture info. Oh it is a factory "M" clutch diff.

[@atomant830]

The car looks great and that Beems engine does sound good.

[@matthewpiedt6177]

toyota m75 diff is the way to go. very common swap in old rear wheel drive toyotas with a beams or 2jz swap in South Africa

[@joshuamclean6564]

I have a resonance at ~3000rpm on my NB2 MX-5 (lightweight clutch/flywheel/kaaz 2way/mazdaspeed diff/engine mounts). I only get it in gears 1 2 3 4 on lift off coasting. I think it is the synchros in the gearbox not anything to do with the diff. I've heard something similar before in 60 series Land cruiser and had the gearbox rebuilt. Noise was gone after that. That box did have like half a million Km's on though and my MX-5 has 160k on it.

[@dionisio9697]

Man, I forgot that I was emotionally invested with this build a long time ago

[@Sauerbrew777]

I'd love to see a dragy test for 0-60 since it's so hard to tell speed in a video.

[@Gutowski424]

What an amazing sounding car. Great job guys!

[@dadstoygarage1878]

I enjoyed that video! Also car sounds amazing!

[@nerbs101]

Not sure exactly what you are running for diff as I thought I saw Tomei stamped on the diff. I am running an entire weir 4.77 gearset w/ maxxgrip lsd kit rebuild in an ae86, which was assembled and sent to me by Spencer Weir. I have about 20k miles on it no issues, he always told me to run the non synthetic valvoline that has the additive and keep the housing clean and I have never had that chatter or an issues. May be a different setup so I may be mispoken here, just thought id add.

[@jayryia]

Well done on the entire journey fellas.... pleasure to watch this series. (I miss the evo though, LOL)

[@supra1722]

I bet the 3000rpm 'resonance' has to do with the pinion angle and the Techno Toy spherical parts accentuating it.

[@jonmercer6868]

Great episode as always guys!

[@tonyh5858]

Install a Fluiddamper or ATI Superdamper it should really help with the NVH

[@lukeranger-w9m]

I noticed you went from spring/separate coil to coilovers in the rear at some stage? Did I miss an episode?

[@heyhayhay247]

Did I see F8X calipers on a shelf for the E92 M3 during that bench bleeding scene???

[@H0tDawgWater911]

CM Autohaus! Represent!

[@ElysianConcepts]

Might wanna do some dynamats for sound deadening. Besides awesome job.

[@xozindustries7451]

Is that master cylinder for rear drum brakes? It might still have a residual pressure valve to hold the brake shoes close to the drum

[@johnmcilroy3941]

Beautiful. Health to enjoy!

[@JeffMendoza]

looking forward to the tmp laps

[@richardfarmer6570]

Give that thing the beans cause damn it sounds good.

[@rynorx7]

Lovely work guys. Did you do the bed in procedure on the lsd? I had a tomei 2 way in my corolla and did all the setup twice too haha. Mine was much better after the proper figure 8 run in and oil change and adding a tube of friction modifer. Good luck with it

[@speedacademy]

We added more friction modifier and its helped tremendously

[@HugoHardinge]

Try some shockproof, it’ll help quiet down the drivetrain

[@cmsgt4]

It sounds so good.

[@Fontanero_Larry]

remember when you have like 90k sub and now look at you 615k, Congrarts, been follo since 17 now i m 26 xD

[@mattadams9484]

My first car was a 76 Celica Coop, it was stolen and totaled shortly after I put a mustang 5 l engine in it, man I miss that car

[@agoodmobiledetailing]

If you guys are even close to Cincinnati, I'd love to do a proper Ceramic coating on it.😊

[@mrcartease]

Sounds like my 84’ Liftback 😂❤️

[@atomant830]

Canadians are polite but, that driver wanted you to go by so that can get a longer look at Connie. 😂

[@khashayarrabbanian2747]

whats the speed on 2nd gear redline? just asking so I could imagine rowing through the gears and hearing such a symphony when I got alone :))

[@bakamotorworks505]

Giving it the beams!

[@mickbrown8249]

Late 73'St Celica had for while from 78'got oblong front Lights Celica later on then COW middle of road In foggy in parts of road ..Scrapped it..

[@lamesamelame]

Serious question: Why put spherical bearings on a road car? Wouldn't you want something similar to OEM?

[@JuanRubio99]

Those vibrations is going to be the driveshaft..I had the same issue

[@jigglerish]

Would it be a single mass flywheel conversion making the rattle?

[@tomjones5974]

Custom carbon fiber driveshaft. Will it fix the vibrations. Probably not but would be cool. LSD just needs 500 miles break-in.

[@JerryHenderson72]

That axle looked like it was so small that 150 horsepower would snap it . I have no idea how much power your beams engine makes . But I would look at switching out to a Ford 8.8 or 9 inch . A 9 inch can take upwards of 1,000 horsepower on the drag strip . And the 8.8 isn't that much weaker .

[@michaelbrinks8089]

Would a 560 lb iron block V8 be way to heavy and ruin the handling or can it still be made to handle well?

[@mariosnikolaou5212]

Holly shit these itbs sound so nice.

[@josephinesoldatos2307]

well done !!

[@Smokkedandslammed]

Hell yeah dudes!

[@mikos2k1]

Sounds like what I had on my 2001 ap1 s2000 transmission. In gear and decelerating after 3000 rpm.

[@amoni1959]

Where in Canada can I get a set of those gojacks?

[@trilliamogdlocog4986]

Seems like an itb tune problem, it can be hard to get a high reviving setup to cruise normally

[@festungkurland9804]

Make a skid plate even factory celica had a skid plate to protect the oil pan.

[@mrheikin]

You need a rear sway bar.

[@blue04mx53]

Wait, you stop at stop signs? Could you come to KW and explain that concept to drivers here?

[@Dietcola1]

How do we get DPs hat?

[@marc9283]

hard to tell because stuff is always different in videos vs irl but to me that just sounds like typical 4 cylinder resonance from the exhaust. Cant really fix that unless you go with a reflection style muffler.