1977 Toyota Celica RestoMod Build - EP14 - FIRST DRIVE!

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Our 1977 Toyota Celica with an ITB Beams 3SGE swap hits the street for a first drive
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@GleepGlop2
@GleepGlop2 Жыл бұрын
All of these builds make me appreciate the engineering that goes into OEM parts and I'd be inclined to mess with as little of it as humanly possible if I expect any level of street driveability. As soon as I'd start modifying for track performance I'd waive any expectation of a quiet comfortable ride.
@lolauup
@lolauup Жыл бұрын
Literally. Original toyota stuff specifically is always so generously engineered I found working on a few is300 and gs cars.
@BrodeyDoverosx
@BrodeyDoverosx Жыл бұрын
A high end suspension will be firm AND supple.
@romankalyniuk2596
@romankalyniuk2596 Жыл бұрын
Ditto! Sorry that the shake down was not satisfactory
@nikrbawker
@nikrbawker Жыл бұрын
Have to be brave & test stuff out if you want to improve something, with an initial idea considering as many factors as possible although it is hard and not possible to consider every factor in every case. Not a huge fan of the random prices of original parts that's why I've loved aftermarket but for people who have a endless amount of money I could easily see having a OE bias.
@bigmattolly4910
@bigmattolly4910 Жыл бұрын
That clunk is pinion angle. It will put you sideways under hard brakes into pinion angle push. Put a go pro under the car and film it. Those spherical bearings I ran on my car and the noise and vibration was horrible. So I made the mount to the body a super pro rubber style mount. Much much better and it helped with axle tramp and better articulation under load 👍 good work
@ttt69420
@ttt69420 Жыл бұрын
A lot of it is natural as well with a light flywheel and a strong lsd/1.5 or 2 way lock.
@gqswamp
@gqswamp Жыл бұрын
Flywheel -- If you put in a lightweight flywheel, it can/will resonate. The sound is exactly like what I hear on mine. You'll learn to hate/live with it. My next clutch replacement will be the time I go back to OEM on it. This just made me think for a moment. Wonder if a good harmonic balancer might help... I'm thinking maybe so. Thought I'd share the brainstorming.
@DahakaCL
@DahakaCL Жыл бұрын
#facts
@dancarlos1216
@dancarlos1216 Жыл бұрын
The slight noise is worth the throttle response
@bobbyhulse378
@bobbyhulse378 Жыл бұрын
The 3000rpm rumble is a very common thing in the Altezza too. If you change to a more solid shifter it will become even more apparent.
@dancarlos1216
@dancarlos1216 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyhulse378 I put a lighter shift knob on my ND1 and that’s the only modification on the whole car, and that made the knob rattle at lower rpm/high load ranges.
@emc3065
@emc3065 Жыл бұрын
Could definitely be THE problem or at least dramatically contributing to it. If it happens at a particular RPM, it's definitely some resonance going on. Dual Mass doesn't just make engagement easier, it also eliminates a lot of NVH and resonance. As someone else said though, from experience, if you're building a performance focused car the pick up and responsiveness is worth the noise and harshness.
@Sorum4Life
@Sorum4Life Жыл бұрын
I've been following this build for 6 YEARS NOW and after my deployment, I'm going to get after my 76 liftback. I've been re-watching your older videos so I can start ordering mostly the exact parts you all used I can't wait. (I ordered one part already a LONG time ago and that was 2 speed academy license plate covers)
@karmatose
@karmatose Жыл бұрын
Nice to see this car rollin'. It's beautiful and y'all should be proud of the work you've done.
@feelthatfeelthat
@feelthatfeelthat Жыл бұрын
Peter should be proud of the work and Dave should be a proud owner 😊
@jaelnava_
@jaelnava_ Жыл бұрын
Stoked DP is one step closer to the car of his dreams! Really enjoyed this series and sad its coming to an end! Not many well-documented cars built to this degree with custom and one-off parts like this on youtube! Keep it up boys!
@bgee461
@bgee461 Жыл бұрын
Now you see how much engineering goes into a modern car that can rip, do 300k miles, and not shake the driver into a froth. 😮
@Phil_Baines
@Phil_Baines Жыл бұрын
For a street car you'd enjoy having bushed 4-links significantly more. I switched to rose link jointed 4-links in my AE86 but got tired of the clunks. Ended up swapping the ends for urethane (keeping the adjustable links so still tunable) which removed the clunks (same issue, clunks at low speed). Dialing in the working angle for the driveshaft UJ's to both 1.5 degrees front and rear smoothed out the drive as well.
@mikemikeyee
@mikemikeyee Жыл бұрын
T3 makes a brushed link that replaces the heims. Something older corolla dudes is run half heim and half brushed
@CoachDAReid
@CoachDAReid Жыл бұрын
Guys, this video is the best. Chasing down good experience; I hope it beats out PT’s dithering with old BMW’s for views!
@BeardedCarBuddy
@BeardedCarBuddy Жыл бұрын
What an epic build this has been. Must be as rewarding as frustrating to be so close to victory!
@pdx650
@pdx650 4 ай бұрын
SA, 26 years ago, I enlisted into the Army and sold my '77 OEM Celica (with a trunk, not a fastback). It was a 'GT' trim with a 5-speed manual transmission and the 20R 2.2-litr engine. I bought the car for $700 and wish I still had it. I still have the OEM shift knob from it though.
@MrIrieviking
@MrIrieviking Жыл бұрын
Awesome work!! I loved seeing this car on Street Bandito!!
@bobbyrios2k223
@bobbyrios2k223 Жыл бұрын
So awesome seeing this driving, now for all the minor fixes after such an intense resto build
@shredtheknoll3357
@shredtheknoll3357 Жыл бұрын
The bushingless heim joints in the rear translate alot of noise and vibration into the chassis. I had these on my ae86 and ended up switching back to rubber bushings for the rear, and it fixed it.
@jlm582
@jlm582 Жыл бұрын
I love how close DP’s face was to that bolt when he was pressing the pinion out with it.
@FirstLast-bi8xi
@FirstLast-bi8xi Жыл бұрын
Urethane rod ends at one end of the four links will get rid of most of the noise.
@oinojo
@oinojo Жыл бұрын
The coast resonance is the gear lash transmitting from your transmission. Its usually contributed by a lightened clutch and flywheel with an old gearbox.
@monkeybarmonkeyman
@monkeybarmonkeyman Жыл бұрын
As pleased as you are with the rear end... OEM cars did not have that noise from gear slack until you had beat the living daylights out it. Think I'd get a true pro to dig into it, configure it, maybe make an episode out of it. Brake/rotor noise also troubles me - but hey, it's just me. Such a fine, fine car otherwise... Connie deserves a massage by the best hands out there 😛
@mikemikeyee
@mikemikeyee Жыл бұрын
Ring and pinions are a dark arts. Especially if using aftermarket gears
@adonay944
@adonay944 Жыл бұрын
Cant beat ITBs for sound
@panicwire
@panicwire Жыл бұрын
Such a tease! Can't wait to see it on track
@Falcon5ive
@Falcon5ive Жыл бұрын
16:26 Those grinding sounds, the rattles, the uncomfortable ride/suspension and the shaky steering shows cars have come a long way, classic cars look fantastic but not a lot of fun to drive if you are used to modern cars.
@JarrodWillemse
@JarrodWillemse Жыл бұрын
When I added solid subframe bushes and a lightweight flywheel it get this harmonic on decel between 3-4K rpm. I think it’s just harmonics between the engine and driveline.
@Alex-wb2yw
@Alex-wb2yw Жыл бұрын
I want a build a classic jdm car just so I can put a set of Equip 40s on it. These wheels are soooo good on small older cars.
@1970ronin
@1970ronin Жыл бұрын
OMG those beautiful noises.... I put in some hush mat with a new carpet kit in my 77 it helps but she's still a 46 year old girl on coilovers and performance tires
@ierefaanbatchelor2578
@ierefaanbatchelor2578 Жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing 👏
@WIQDTOY1
@WIQDTOY1 Жыл бұрын
I've built a 1971 Celica with a S2000 motor/transmission swap and replaced all my bushings with heim joints. The noise and clunks it made was just what you would naturally hear from a tin can shell from the 70's that's been highly modified and put together with junkyard parts.
@MrBlockoh
@MrBlockoh Жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see this car back on the channel!
@coreyscarrepairs
@coreyscarrepairs Жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like normal old school rear end noise being transferred through the cabin because of the lack of rubber bushings. Its the trade off you get with stiffer suspension components.
@1stGenCRXs
@1stGenCRXs Жыл бұрын
This car is as beautiful from below as it is above. Love the updates and continues improvements your making.
@speedwalker5000
@speedwalker5000 Жыл бұрын
that sound is chef's kiss 😘
@shirolee
@shirolee Жыл бұрын
Amazing work!!!! And the perfect choice in engine also!
@alouiciousjackson5812
@alouiciousjackson5812 Жыл бұрын
It's so funny to see this, we used to modify the hell out of these cars when I was in high school but nobody took it to that level back then!
@Sauerbrew777
@Sauerbrew777 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a dragy test for 0-60 since it's so hard to tell speed in a video.
@tofubadguy
@tofubadguy Жыл бұрын
Awesome, awesome, awesome guys!!! I'd love to see it again someday.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 Жыл бұрын
Loving the warts and all videos in addition to the music montages, this channel is great!
@josephmatuszak3855
@josephmatuszak3855 Жыл бұрын
What a glorious sound Connie makes! 🥰
@WTFNoNamesLeft2
@WTFNoNamesLeft2 Жыл бұрын
That little metal ring around the diff drain hole so oil doesn't run down to the bottom of it and make a mess and also to shield it from road debris... Old Japanese stuff is just so good!
@tomjones5974
@tomjones5974 Жыл бұрын
Yeah my Ford 9" has the same thing
@richardfarmer6570
@richardfarmer6570 Жыл бұрын
Give that thing the beans cause damn it sounds good.
@pFbSpecV
@pFbSpecV Жыл бұрын
Nice to see some progress on it!! It sounds like a k series to me inside the car.
@Bye401K
@Bye401K 10 ай бұрын
Late to the party here Dave. But man this reminds me where I'm at with mine. Way way far off from being completed. lol. Also your lucky Nate Gold came through. lol. I'll be reaching out when I get to my rear end. !! Looking good !
@Killerconceptz
@Killerconceptz Жыл бұрын
Love it! I ran into a clunk like that when I slammed my c10, it was pinion angle. Hope that helps!
@jtjt3823
@jtjt3823 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on tuning the suspension. There are loads of videos on installing the parts but few good ones and tuning the parts. I’ve really enjoyed this build!
@H0tDawgWater911
@H0tDawgWater911 Жыл бұрын
CM Autohaus! Represent!
@tommynobaka
@tommynobaka Жыл бұрын
Funny you guys had that thing about NVH, everytime I hope back in my Civic SI coming from my BMW, the Civic sounds so broken lol. So much more feeling and noise in the Civic but it's normal. The BMW is more quiet and smooth
@matthewpiedt6177
@matthewpiedt6177 Жыл бұрын
toyota m75 diff is the way to go. very common swap in old rear wheel drive toyotas with a beams or 2jz swap in South Africa
@nathandale7456
@nathandale7456 Жыл бұрын
You topping up the coolant sounded just like my middle of the night trip to the loo.
@papilloncycles3463
@papilloncycles3463 Жыл бұрын
The Lisle funnel system is a great cheap tool, Way easier to use this gravity system than any other burping system. I see problems with airpockets all the time because people don't realize how important it is!
@atomant830
@atomant830 Жыл бұрын
The car looks great and that Beems engine does sound good.
@ahwee77329
@ahwee77329 Жыл бұрын
pico scope has a really nice nvh kit to nail down the noises.
@Niki_R188
@Niki_R188 Жыл бұрын
As always a great vid..just a suggestion..we need more track vids..the builds are amazing we just want to see them at track..that celica sounds amazing..
@mrcartease
@mrcartease Жыл бұрын
Sounds like my 84’ Liftback 😂❤️
@bakamotorworks505
@bakamotorworks505 Жыл бұрын
Giving it the beams!
@johnmcilroy3941
@johnmcilroy3941 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Health to enjoy!
@jeffreymoore4132
@jeffreymoore4132 Жыл бұрын
Kudos for setting up your own diff. I'll rebuild manual trans, engines, and any kind of routine maintainance, but I'll nope on out for differentials. They are so much repetitive work.
@myurcek05
@myurcek05 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest checking the trans mount. That could also be passing the NVH into the chassis.
@atomant830
@atomant830 Жыл бұрын
Canadians are polite but, that driver wanted you to go by so that can get a longer look at Connie. 😂
@friguy4444
@friguy4444 Жыл бұрын
You may think me insane but I had diff noise troubles in my E46 M3 at very slow speeds while turning. Like in a parking lot. I tried some Royal purple for LSD and it made it worse. I tried some friction modifier additive from Liqui Moli to no avail! Then before I spent $2000 plus on a rebuild I decided to use the actual BMW diff fluid which is STUPID expensive at $90 per 500ML and the diff needed 1.2L of fluid. Which was why I tried the other fluids first. Like magic NO More Noise. That was 4 years ago and it's still as quiet as a mouse. Do what you will with that ture info. Oh it is a factory "M" clutch diff.
@mariosnikolaou5212
@mariosnikolaou5212 Жыл бұрын
Holly shit these itbs sound so nice.
@dionisio9697
@dionisio9697 Жыл бұрын
Man, I forgot that I was emotionally invested with this build a long time ago
@PANTYEATR1
@PANTYEATR1 Жыл бұрын
That 3000 rpm and lower coasting issue could be an issue in the overrun section of the VE or ignition tuning table. Maybe more fuel is needed to add the slightest load or momentum while coasting? I'm having a bucking that produces a diff clunking at 2000 rpms and lower that i suspect is in the tuning. Good video guys🏆
@JeffMendoza
@JeffMendoza Жыл бұрын
looking forward to the tmp laps
@dadstoygarage1878
@dadstoygarage1878 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that video! Also car sounds amazing!
@joshuamclean6564
@joshuamclean6564 Жыл бұрын
I have a resonance at ~3000rpm on my NB2 MX-5 (lightweight clutch/flywheel/kaaz 2way/mazdaspeed diff/engine mounts). I only get it in gears 1 2 3 4 on lift off coasting. I think it is the synchros in the gearbox not anything to do with the diff. I've heard something similar before in 60 series Land cruiser and had the gearbox rebuilt. Noise was gone after that. That box did have like half a million Km's on though and my MX-5 has 160k on it.
@jayryia
@jayryia Жыл бұрын
Well done on the entire journey fellas.... pleasure to watch this series. (I miss the evo though, LOL)
@Gutowski424
@Gutowski424 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing sounding car. Great job guys!
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah dudes!
@mattadams9484
@mattadams9484 Жыл бұрын
My first car was a 76 Celica Coop, it was stolen and totaled shortly after I put a mustang 5 l engine in it, man I miss that car
@Fontanero_Larry
@Fontanero_Larry Жыл бұрын
remember when you have like 90k sub and now look at you 615k, Congrarts, been follo since 17 now i m 26 xD
@josephinesoldatos2307
@josephinesoldatos2307 Жыл бұрын
well done !!
@sataneatcheese6243
@sataneatcheese6243 Жыл бұрын
Those rose joints in the rear are what are causing a lot of your road noise. I'd get the diff checked by a specialist as well.
@mickbrown8249
@mickbrown8249 Жыл бұрын
Late 73'St Celica had for while from 78'got oblong front Lights Celica later on then COW middle of road In foggy in parts of road ..Scrapped it..
@ElysianConcepts
@ElysianConcepts Жыл бұрын
Might wanna do some dynamats for sound deadening. Besides awesome job.
@agoodmobiledetailing
@agoodmobiledetailing Жыл бұрын
If you guys are even close to Cincinnati, I'd love to do a proper Ceramic coating on it.😊
@mikos2k1
@mikos2k1 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like what I had on my 2001 ap1 s2000 transmission. In gear and decelerating after 3000 rpm.
@tonyh5858
@tonyh5858 Жыл бұрын
Install a Fluiddamper or ATI Superdamper it should really help with the NVH
@jonmercer6868
@jonmercer6868 Жыл бұрын
Great episode as always guys!
@cmsgt4
@cmsgt4 Жыл бұрын
It sounds so good.
@supra1722
@supra1722 Жыл бұрын
I bet the 3000rpm 'resonance' has to do with the pinion angle and the Techno Toy spherical parts accentuating it.
@JuanRubio99
@JuanRubio99 Жыл бұрын
Those vibrations is going to be the driveshaft..I had the same issue
@dumkopf
@dumkopf Жыл бұрын
16:30 is where the drive starts
@jordanpanich
@jordanpanich Жыл бұрын
Rad!
@flaS2k
@flaS2k Жыл бұрын
It sounds like my AP1 S2000
@festungkurland9804
@festungkurland9804 Жыл бұрын
Make a skid plate even factory celica had a skid plate to protect the oil pan.
@knduong
@knduong Жыл бұрын
sickkkkk
@HugoHardinge
@HugoHardinge Жыл бұрын
Try some shockproof, it’ll help quiet down the drivetrain
@mattphilip8288
@mattphilip8288 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@jasonbaltazar8774
@jasonbaltazar8774 11 ай бұрын
in regards to setting the wear pattern on the coast side, did you experiment with setting the pinion depth? i did notice shims being added for the spacer. but you can move the pinion towards the centerline of the ring gear by adding shims to the other bearing. this would affect both drive and coast side and provide a different range of results for wear patterns after setting preload/lash.
@tomjones5974
@tomjones5974 Жыл бұрын
Custom carbon fiber driveshaft. Will it fix the vibrations. Probably not but would be cool. LSD just needs 500 miles break-in.
@nerbs101
@nerbs101 Жыл бұрын
Not sure exactly what you are running for diff as I thought I saw Tomei stamped on the diff. I am running an entire weir 4.77 gearset w/ maxxgrip lsd kit rebuild in an ae86, which was assembled and sent to me by Spencer Weir. I have about 20k miles on it no issues, he always told me to run the non synthetic valvoline that has the additive and keep the housing clean and I have never had that chatter or an issues. May be a different setup so I may be mispoken here, just thought id add.
@blazedxjan
@blazedxjan Жыл бұрын
"its already fixing itself" LMFAO
@nii-san5485
@nii-san5485 Жыл бұрын
It screams!
@Dietcola1
@Dietcola1 Жыл бұрын
How do we get DPs hat?
@mrheikin
@mrheikin Жыл бұрын
You need a rear sway bar.
@Shadowband72
@Shadowband72 Жыл бұрын
That axle looked like it was so small that 150 horsepower would snap it . I have no idea how much power your beams engine makes . But I would look at switching out to a Ford 8.8 or 9 inch . A 9 inch can take upwards of 1,000 horsepower on the drag strip . And the 8.8 isn't that much weaker .
@larrysheran
@larrysheran Жыл бұрын
All that clunking might come from the expensive Techno Toy Tuning heim joints bolted to the unibody. All the vibration and rattling flows from the ground all the way the drivers spine. That's why in my '77 Celica I'm modifying my stock 4 Links/Panhard Bar and making them adjustable! That's gonna be my next video!
@heyhayhay247
@heyhayhay247 Жыл бұрын
Did I see F8X calipers on a shelf for the E92 M3 during that bench bleeding scene???
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 Жыл бұрын
Is that master cylinder for rear drum brakes? It might still have a residual pressure valve to hold the brake shoes close to the drum
@elliottb7009
@elliottb7009 Жыл бұрын
IRS rear end swap ;)
@marc9283
@marc9283 Жыл бұрын
hard to tell because stuff is always different in videos vs irl but to me that just sounds like typical 4 cylinder resonance from the exhaust. Cant really fix that unless you go with a reflection style muffler.
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