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"The name of the game now is money. Football isn't the cloth cap now... it's big, big, big, big business." - Manchester City chairman, Peter Swales.
Kevin Cosgrove reports on the fortunes of Manchester City Football Club, an ambitious club dedicated to maximising their commercial revenue off the pitch in order to create the best team in the country on it.
This clip is from Nationwide: Win Some - Lose Some, originally broadcast 18 August, 1978.
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@lovethewave100
@lovethewave100 2 жыл бұрын
They would all be blown away seeing where the club is today and the money involved.
@charles-vq6sd
@charles-vq6sd 2 жыл бұрын
True
@bonzodog6872
@bonzodog6872 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that would be blown away is Peter Swales comb over
@roaarylion5214
@roaarylion5214 2 жыл бұрын
Then they see the oil
@NazriB
@NazriB Жыл бұрын
Lies again? Business Trips
@jamesgreen8573
@jamesgreen8573 Жыл бұрын
It’s disgusting what it’s become, sold there soul for success
@therobot6667
@therobot6667 2 жыл бұрын
I think Nationwide did a series on City back in 1978, this is part of it. Would love to see it complete if it still exists.
@andymiles6311
@andymiles6311 Жыл бұрын
On KZbin
@Spectrescup
@Spectrescup Жыл бұрын
There was an ITV documentary covering the Allison/Bond transition. It's on here.
@zyban99
@zyban99 2 жыл бұрын
There’s some great combovers in there
@wr6392
@wr6392 2 жыл бұрын
Their teeth are shockingly decent. Haha
@nickgreen105
@nickgreen105 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe anyone thought that was a good look! Did they have clippers in those days?
@Ian-gw2vx
@Ian-gw2vx 2 жыл бұрын
I was going regular in 1978. Dad always parked his car in the streets of Moss Side to be met by local urchins asking for money to "look after your car" He always paid and no damage done. Probably the Gallagher brothers. Great memories though.
@dealsfactory5289
@dealsfactory5289 2 жыл бұрын
In the 69/70 season some of the adjacent houses took in bicycles for a fee
@Drumm3rB0y
@Drumm3rB0y 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Liam and Noel Love from Dublin
@cgavin1
@cgavin1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drumm3rB0y Wash your mouth out! Sure you meant to say Rory and Dónal!
@Drumm3rB0y
@Drumm3rB0y 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgavin1 as much a legend the Big R is, I’ll always be loyal to Liam and Noel
@nonaynever4361
@nonaynever4361 2 жыл бұрын
We used to park outside croke park in Dublin young lad I’ll look after your car mister, no it’s ok there a Rottweiler in it. Can it put out fires mister.
@jdm65
@jdm65 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful combover collection. The following year, those cash conscious directors bankrolled Allison's insane spending spree.
@RollaArtis
@RollaArtis 2 жыл бұрын
They call this hairstyle the 'Bar code'...it was prevalent in the 70's
@daviddare8882
@daviddare8882 Жыл бұрын
yeah I think Swales had the most impressive one
@Policestate41
@Policestate41 Жыл бұрын
Swales and scargill were seperated at birth
@YeOldeFootballChannel
@YeOldeFootballChannel Жыл бұрын
Sold Peter Barnes to West Brom and spent 1 million pounds for Steve Daley, who did... nothing.
@michaelroberts7374
@michaelroberts7374 5 ай бұрын
Kaziu Deyna❤
@MrBobsmith34
@MrBobsmith34 2 жыл бұрын
Allowing for inflation 1 million in 1978 is slightly over 6 million now. So that was yearly running costs of the club. Today City's annual expenditure is about £565 million
@colincolin5696
@colincolin5696 5 ай бұрын
How much money do Man City bring in today tho… that’s the difference. Man City have massive yearly costs but still make more a year than they put into it.
@MrBobsmith34
@MrBobsmith34 3 ай бұрын
@@colincolin5696 yes revenue has gone up in tandem with costs but I suppose what the whole FFP case about city is trying to determine is whether costs are meet by club revenue or cash injections by the owners
@metas6755
@metas6755 Жыл бұрын
I'm 93 now. I still remember my grandpa taking me to this stadium back in 1923. Quite the golden days, ain't it? You lot should've seen Bobby Goldien. He was quite a good goal scoring chap with his immense physique.
@miamitten1123
@miamitten1123 Жыл бұрын
You remember the King before Elizabeth II?
@metas6755
@metas6755 Жыл бұрын
@@miamitten1123 definitely
@hi-ls6lt
@hi-ls6lt Жыл бұрын
Maybe insensitive to ask, but how would you compare watching Pele and Maradona to Messi and Ronaldo? Or would the different eras not make that possible?
@metas6755
@metas6755 Жыл бұрын
@@hi-ls6lt thank you for the question young one. Forget about them lot. I saw a player back in my day who was Swift as a horse, stout like an elephant and as hungry as a bloodlust tiger. His name was Teddy Oliver Goldien. 6'3, can dribble, defend, block, tackle, shoot, score and assist. He did everything. I must admit things are different now compared to when we were playing 7-8 men up top as a striker but the fundamentals are still the same.
@hi-ls6lt
@hi-ls6lt Жыл бұрын
@@metas6755 thank you for your answer sir. I wish I was able to watch Terry Goldien but I’m lucky to have people like you around to tell me all about players like Terry, who we may never see like again. Once more, thank you for taking the time to answer my question sir. I wish the best for you 😊
@andya6461
@andya6461 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how some things change, interesting how some things never change.
@philiplevins6702
@philiplevins6702 2 жыл бұрын
sat at the table knowing your rocking the strongest combover...go on Peter my son
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting foreshadowing
@alexandermoonen6170
@alexandermoonen6170 2 жыл бұрын
Love archive.Every time I watch archive it’s well-worth watching.
@sammyb1651
@sammyb1651 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else getting Frank "Hoss" Cartwright vibes from Swalesey when he starts with the: "chips, teas, pies" material? Bottles and cans, everything under one roof.
@mattjimbobowen
@mattjimbobowen Жыл бұрын
Sunshine Indoors!
@ipuya
@ipuya 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a different world. Sales were conducted using coins!
@original.dwornboy
@original.dwornboy 2 жыл бұрын
As it should be today.
@dealsfactory5289
@dealsfactory5289 2 жыл бұрын
The kippax was probably 65p by then but the main stand would have been 1 pound +
@MajorMatt01
@MajorMatt01 Жыл бұрын
@@original.dwornboy alright grandad
@northernvibes6838
@northernvibes6838 Жыл бұрын
Loved the kippax Best memories
@iany8230
@iany8230 Жыл бұрын
Peter Swales!!! He used to own a record shop in Alty. Famous fan Stuart Hall! Where did it all go wrong!?
@lolgrant
@lolgrant Жыл бұрын
If you close your eyes when Swales is talking apart from the subject matter of course it's like listening to Peter Hook.
@GBGOLC
@GBGOLC Жыл бұрын
The writing was on the wall back them, but even these guys could not imagine where football would be today with regards to revenue and turnover.
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating seeing stuff like this.. I know Swales had City at heart but the club was mismanaged during the 80,s as the club could not compete.. but did have a great team from 1990 to about 1993 but then just fell away when the premier League started. Just didn't have the money to compete, but the fans stuck with that club and now deserve all the success that they are having right now...love City ..💙💙💙
@H_E_N_X
@H_E_N_X 7 ай бұрын
1:00 that is the most impressive comb over I've ever seen.
@andyhowpog
@andyhowpog 4 ай бұрын
Spectacular isn't it?
@MLSNYC88
@MLSNYC88 Ай бұрын
Genuinely shocked at Peter Swales candor here. Remember when we'd talk about football clubs as community hubs? This guy wanted every penny spent near Maine Road to go to City. Glad to see we've always had greedy sods at the top.
@fattypark
@fattypark 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Conway left City to pursue a successful career in robbing airlines and tipping waiters highly generously
@jdm65
@jdm65 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, beat me to it.. The forgotten City years between the Lufthansa heist and being ratted out by Henry Hill.
@AJM-timecop
@AJM-timecop Жыл бұрын
Still remember my pork pie & cup of tea in the corner of Maine Rd in the mid 70s. Good days.
@nicknewman7848
@nicknewman7848 3 ай бұрын
seeing as you're a timecop you could always travel back in time to a dark, freezing cold, wet February and stand for 2 hours on a terrace and relive the good old days watching the ball getting stuck in the mud.😁
@GriefTourist
@GriefTourist 15 күн бұрын
This must look like a different planet to today's young generation.
@tradingcardboss
@tradingcardboss Жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid some 50 years plus while reading about what was happening to sports in America . I thought the amount of money they were investing in players and the sports. It would one day happen in England and beyond seems have come to fruition
@torstenmaier5624
@torstenmaier5624 Жыл бұрын
When football is not so high paid, the sport can win overall.
@cgavin1
@cgavin1 2 жыл бұрын
How much things have changed. That pat on the backside at 00:41 would get you a criminal record in 2022.
@nicknewman7848
@nicknewman7848 3 ай бұрын
Not if it was consensual..eh? Know what I mean? wink wink
@glynquigley4364
@glynquigley4364 Жыл бұрын
It is weird to watch this in 2022. Today City are in a totally different economic reality to 1978 and do have one of the biggest wage bills and go for big name players. I suspect they won't have the same result to their ambition as happened in the early 1980s. We won't see Pep gutted, having lost a last day "winner stays up game" as in 1983
@nigelhorton1115
@nigelhorton1115 2 жыл бұрын
Great example of the Comb Over
@stevenwilcox8631
@stevenwilcox8631 2 жыл бұрын
40 plus years later the club is run by Abu Dhabi royal billionaire Sheikh Mansour who under the City Football Group owns a string of football clubs around the world. It goes to show how far football has gone in the world of business since this was aired in the 1970s.
@Policestate41
@Policestate41 Жыл бұрын
It's called sports washing with a healthy dose of financial doping
@thedave7760
@thedave7760 Жыл бұрын
@@Policestate41 It's called brainwashing, get down on your knee boys cos someone is oppressed, we will tell you who is oppressed and you had better agree with us bigot.
@anisdesai4692
@anisdesai4692 2 ай бұрын
He'd be astounded if he knew how big that business is.
@dommidavros2211
@dommidavros2211 Жыл бұрын
£150K for the maintenance! I bet they spend that on the Christmas party now! 🥳 😆😆
@Ellio1862
@Ellio1862 2 жыл бұрын
£150,000 a year to run Maine Road back then, doesn’t even cover one weeks wage for a player.
@attackpatterndelta8949
@attackpatterndelta8949 2 жыл бұрын
£150k in 1978 would be worth around £680k today. But yeah, the money is crazy.
@juz882010
@juz882010 Жыл бұрын
they said 1 million to break even
@JimGall
@JimGall Жыл бұрын
£150k to run Maine Road.
@miamitten1123
@miamitten1123 Жыл бұрын
@@attackpatterndelta8949 Still doesn't cover 2 weeks wage of a player.
@meropealcyone
@meropealcyone 2 ай бұрын
Now, did Jimmy Conway play for City before or after he masterminded the Lufthansa heist?
@caeserromero3013
@caeserromero3013 2 жыл бұрын
Was there ever a time when City weren't money crazy??
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 Жыл бұрын
Football is money crazy...not CITY
@miamitten1123
@miamitten1123 Жыл бұрын
The 90's!
@snookerstones
@snookerstones 3 ай бұрын
City was 1 game away from going out of existence
@michaelt8682
@michaelt8682 2 жыл бұрын
that is a serious comb over that chap's got
@DanRaffaele
@DanRaffaele 2 жыл бұрын
Was that a toupee, a combover, or a toupee with a combover?
@arilebon
@arilebon 2 жыл бұрын
All 3!
@grahamhill9499
@grahamhill9499 2 жыл бұрын
He was only 29 when filmed
@traceya9615
@traceya9615 2 жыл бұрын
None of them - it was the classic Swales' Grecian 2000'd Shredded Wheat. He'd have demanded image rights for it nowadays.
@remotefaith
@remotefaith Жыл бұрын
It’s a toupover
@mainchannel1566
@mainchannel1566 2 жыл бұрын
It took nearly 40 years, but they did it.
@johnny545
@johnny545 2 жыл бұрын
Nope some Arab done it singlehandedly, not one person from Manchester has had anything to do with Manchester City current success
@iandavis1723
@iandavis1723 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnny545 There are plenty of people from Manchester who have, and still work for the club for many years behind the scenes.
@bhaskarmukherjee8710
@bhaskarmukherjee8710 Жыл бұрын
@@johnny545 true, truth hurts for some people
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 Жыл бұрын
@@johnny545the sweet smell of success may I add
@jamesgreen8573
@jamesgreen8573 Жыл бұрын
@@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 it would break my heart if that was my club, it’s absolutely vile
@kevinbrookes4870
@kevinbrookes4870 Жыл бұрын
God the fiddling we did operating those turnstiles. Let’s just say we made a few bob on the side lol
@juliancrittall3291
@juliancrittall3291 Жыл бұрын
Was it the turnstile scam?. Two fans going through together, the turnstile registering one?. I was going to Spurs matches back then, great memories.
@kamandi1362
@kamandi1362 Жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised, but it’s nothing to be proud of.
@kenreynolds8531
@kenreynolds8531 Жыл бұрын
@@kamandi1362 Always found the gatemen at Maine Road miserable and unhelpful.
@paulhewitt6614
@paulhewitt6614 2 жыл бұрын
The great days of football. Not like the crap now.
@randyborstol2491
@randyborstol2491 2 жыл бұрын
global capitalism today and idiot sheep roll up to watch
@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe
@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe Жыл бұрын
Rose Coloured Spectacles You seem to be wearing.
@jasonking6892
@jasonking6892 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@paulhewitt6614
@paulhewitt6614 Жыл бұрын
@@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe no mate. Just enjoyed watching proper football, no rolling around faking injury. Proper 50/50 tackles. And no stupid VAR.
@miamitten1123
@miamitten1123 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhewitt6614 It's the same now....except for VAR ruining it.
@Doggomorph
@Doggomorph Жыл бұрын
Money but ethics is important too
@citymad2mancitymad644
@citymad2mancitymad644 Жыл бұрын
CITY TILL I DIE ..THOSE DAYS THE ROLLERCOASTER UPS AND DOWNS NOW ITS ALL UPS COME ON YOU BLUES
@daviddowney7703
@daviddowney7703 Жыл бұрын
Look at them now
@lowfatmofat2152
@lowfatmofat2152 Жыл бұрын
best team in the land and all the world....City...City
@pocolol8424
@pocolol8424 2 жыл бұрын
Is that Peter Swales?
@alingard1
@alingard1 2 ай бұрын
We could be selling pies. Hahaha. City. Always thinking big.
@thebat7048
@thebat7048 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder whatever happened to this team called Man City 🤔
@snookerstones
@snookerstones 3 ай бұрын
Became champions of the world
@tremensdelirious
@tremensdelirious Ай бұрын
It’s big big business
@ramo1824
@ramo1824 3 ай бұрын
3:57 Making a fortune selling chips tea...😂 We should be getting that money Speaking like a true gew
@user-lm1os2jy7y
@user-lm1os2jy7y 2 ай бұрын
I’ve got no doubt he was a proper blue but what a blagger.
@jasonking6892
@jasonking6892 Жыл бұрын
Happy days . Real England 🇬🇧 Brilliant
@natureclips5849
@natureclips5849 2 жыл бұрын
City have always been money obsessed
@markfrench9004
@markfrench9004 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Evil: 'One billion dollars.'
@HDsharp
@HDsharp Жыл бұрын
15p for a football program booklet. How much is it now?
@RustyLightningPhoto
@RustyLightningPhoto Жыл бұрын
To see that the football league go from near bankruptcy to the PL being the richest league in the world, that money just needs to filter down to help the lower divines now.
@freddyeverready
@freddyeverready 2 жыл бұрын
15p for a program 😲
@MegaALEXLOUIS
@MegaALEXLOUIS 4 ай бұрын
Tallest floodlights in the league. True pioneers.
@snookerstones
@snookerstones 3 ай бұрын
Ran the club into debt around this time
@odoherty9434
@odoherty9434 2 ай бұрын
He is right unfortunately
@decmcgovern9281
@decmcgovern9281 2 жыл бұрын
Noel Gallagher would love this this lol
@UncleBooBoo
@UncleBooBoo 2 жыл бұрын
Were there no decent barbers in Manchester at the time?
@David_D.
@David_D. 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem like it and looking at Foden's noggin there still isn't.
@andyhowpog
@andyhowpog 4 ай бұрын
@@David_D. Foden's noggin, LOL! And I'm a City fan!
@phillipecook3227
@phillipecook3227 2 жыл бұрын
A very young Mark Radcliffe doing the report?
@nealpatrick3881
@nealpatrick3881 Жыл бұрын
We want to sell everything to the fans , but it will cost them more. That's what he meant
@AntGeezer
@AntGeezer 2 жыл бұрын
‘Go out and spend a couple of hundred thousand on a player’. That won’t last will it?
@funkyrodent66
@funkyrodent66 2 жыл бұрын
funny, greed has always been in football. but sky sports will make you believe its the overseas' owners ripping the game from us. LOL
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs 10 ай бұрын
When have sky sports said that? They love overseas owners spending as it helps the product they are selling
@funkyrodent66
@funkyrodent66 10 ай бұрын
@@SK-kh2rs you must not have a sky sports subscription
@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580
@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 2 жыл бұрын
Swales out!
@ive3336
@ive3336 2 ай бұрын
saying the public shouldnt be making money off the club when the club is built off the backs of the public is such a dumb statement
@sjacrane
@sjacrane 2 жыл бұрын
Grubby money oriented little man.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 2 жыл бұрын
he thinks burger vans are "making a fortune". It's remarkable how small minded and somewhat deluded the people at the top are
@Darwinion
@Darwinion 2 жыл бұрын
An individual stand won't be no. But if you added all those tea/coffee/burger stalls together with a few local shops it would amount to something half decent. West Ham have stripped all that away and it's awful.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darwinion I think the sum of all burger vans is still chump change, and you're essentially robbing 100+ people of a meagre living for a 0.3% increase in match day earnings. There are so many legitimate financial avenues to pursue, but this miserly dolt insists on putting his hand into the burger man's quite shallow pocket.
@moonbaby6134
@moonbaby6134 2 жыл бұрын
Swales. Always was a fool
@redwingrob1036
@redwingrob1036 2 жыл бұрын
LIKE Cloughie said, the average football directors know nothing about the game! THE americanised, commercialised, politicised & racialised 'game' of today I find totally nauseating. I haven't been to watch a game for 20 years; & lastly they're called football GROUNDS, not stadiums! AGAINST MODERN F⚽⚽TBALL 110%.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 2 жыл бұрын
@Maxwell Boyne businesses selling for 50k might have an annual turnover of roughly 80k, but i think burger vans around football grounds would make even less than that, since my example is of businesses that run all year round, so i think 60k is closer. Take out running costs, employee wages, taxes; bearing in mind it's only home matches and the end of season break is nearly 3 months long, net profit is probably about 15k, annually. For 20 vans you're looking at 300k per year, on the high end. That 300k is 1 week's salary for 1 top player, and it took a year to earn it. Chump change
@bulentgunes7954
@bulentgunes7954 Жыл бұрын
ve bugun sampiyonlar ligi sampiyonu nerden nereye
@shanekelley7682
@shanekelley7682 Жыл бұрын
Expect to see Noel Gallagher on this video!
@matthewleslie4448
@matthewleslie4448 11 ай бұрын
They would be relegated five years after this clip
@njm1259
@njm1259 Жыл бұрын
They’ll never be a big club they just don’t have enough money
@lcvillafan
@lcvillafan Жыл бұрын
Now they spend a billion on 4 defenders
@snookerstones
@snookerstones 3 ай бұрын
Now you’re making things up
@lcvillafan
@lcvillafan 3 ай бұрын
@@snookerstones look it up
@bobacrey1068
@bobacrey1068 11 ай бұрын
Made just before Swales let Malcolm Allison go mad with his ridiculous purchases
@rjpaws
@rjpaws Жыл бұрын
FFP cheats
@thewhitedoncheadle8345
@thewhitedoncheadle8345 Жыл бұрын
best haircut?
@asensibleyoungman2978
@asensibleyoungman2978 2 жыл бұрын
In 40 years time City will be owned by Vesuvians and people will hark back to the good old days when earthling oil sheiks owned it.
@Raul87fat
@Raul87fat 8 ай бұрын
one of the most ambitious clubs in Europe?? I thought they were rubbish that time
@snookerstones
@snookerstones 3 ай бұрын
No
@andrewlangsdale7445
@andrewlangsdale7445 9 күн бұрын
City were the 3rd or 4th most successful club in the country in the 1960's and 1970's.
@StuartAxe
@StuartAxe 2 жыл бұрын
Then as now, football is about money and greed. Nothing changes.
@garrybaldy327
@garrybaldy327 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Peter Swales, you dodgy dealer, you. Still undercounting gate receipts?
@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580
@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when they announced the attendance, everyone on the Kippax laughed, the crowd looked like 40,000 and they announced it was 25,000, he was a dodgy bugger Swales.
@Doggomorph
@Doggomorph Жыл бұрын
See his face already know he overwork his workers and take their reward
@thesatisfiedcustomer4869
@thesatisfiedcustomer4869 2 жыл бұрын
that wig
@beijingbond
@beijingbond 2 жыл бұрын
...played at the back in the 80's.
@joemorgan636
@joemorgan636 6 ай бұрын
WOW WOW look from 1978 to today all the oil money from abroad billionaire Man City buying leagues unbelievable
@snookerstones
@snookerstones 3 ай бұрын
Who doesn’t buy leagues?
@jerrydandrige1987
@jerrydandrige1987 Жыл бұрын
Back when city didn't buy their history
@thetruthk5138
@thetruthk5138 Жыл бұрын
All the successful teams do
@Policestate41
@Policestate41 Жыл бұрын
@@thetruthk5138 maybe but most use their own money 💰 not dodgy oil / blood money from middle eastern dictatorships
@thetruthk5138
@thetruthk5138 Жыл бұрын
@@Policestate41 Makes it more competitive though just waiting for my team to get a major investment
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs 10 ай бұрын
​@@Policestate41there's nothing dodgy about oil money fool 😂 they found oil and sell it in exchange for gazillion of dollars and then they spend those dollars
@boringlyawesum
@boringlyawesum Жыл бұрын
britain was so much better before all this diversity poison
@uncleraul3462
@uncleraul3462 Жыл бұрын
Behave. They smashed it on Britains Got Talent.
@tomjones1424
@tomjones1424 5 ай бұрын
😂😂biggest comb over ever
@Porkcylinder
@Porkcylinder 3 ай бұрын
‘Big BIG business’ pfahhh is only he has a clue 😂😂
@0898007
@0898007 2 жыл бұрын
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