1978 Pine Top RI Motocross National

[@brucewilcox7323]

Agreed I got to ride my xr-75 the day before. On that track. 1980 I was on a Suzuki RM80. Thanks Dad you're awesome.

[@PM-sx9vb]

I was at the top of the hill watering the track that day. Great camera work. Brings back lots of memories. 40 yrs go fast..

[@420motoripper2]

Can you please give me some info on where the track actually was. Was it the base of the slope? On the slope?

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

As far as I can find there was only one national raced at this track and that was 1978, is this correct? I also read that the entire complex (skiing and mx) closed in 1980.

[@gregbishop3167]

@@kurtvonfricken6829 Correct. I think the forecast that day for RI was rain and it kept many away. I remember it being a cloudy day, maybe some rain early, and they didn't make the money to do it again.

[@byTjo]

I just watched this 10 or 15 times. I'm marveling over the camera work it's superb ! What a pleasure. I live a few miles south of here on Escoheag and remember all the old time swamp Yankees talking about this OneTime race they built a track for... This is Rhode Island, someone had CONNECTIONS somewhere and why it didn't continues...... We talked about it but I can't remember, I'll have to ask again. This looks like a great day. If only this area could do the cool shut it used to. It's all state land now.

[@castelnedd]

Amazing video. Those honda colours are awesome. I'd love to see Ken Roczen come out in that gear this year.

[@Ncollins99]

Always great watching these vintage videos, nice work by the way! I 'don't miss riding those old pogo stick suspended bikes!

[@stp479]

Hats off to Steve Stackable on that pogo machine! I raced here during each NESC event and it was as rough as Southwick and full of rocks too. A real mx track.

[@knifelyfe6565]

"Short Stack" smoked one before the moto and got right. AINT IT FUN BEING FROM TEXAS!

[@vicamaral]

pine top Rhode island i was there wow thanks for the download brings back a lot of memories had an cr 250 elsinore honda.

[@mikenike8647]

Awesome, i never thought I would see video of Pine Top 1978. I still have the event t-shirt it was the first pro-motocross race I ever attended and have been going to the nationals around the US ever since. Thanks for sharing this it brings ack great memories of being there with my Dad who is now gone. Big fun for a kid...

[@420motoripper2]

Hey man would you be able to tell me where excactly the track was at pinetop? Was it like on the slope or like the bottom of it? Or was it completely off of the skiing slope?

[@motokev2727]

The slow motion makes this video so enjoyable

[@mcgoodle]

Hats off to Rick Burgett. He had to beat a lot of great riders to win the championship in '78.

[@Saint_Ann]

Rick started tbe season poorly. The first three races he had moto finishes of 8-3, DNF-1, and 14-6. In the last seven races, he had eight moto wins, three seconds, two thirds, and one eighth.

[@lfoxracer]

SJThomas1000 has made an accusation that I feel offended by. Just to be clear, all the videos shown on my channel are Super 8 films shot by me and transferred to video BY ME. In fact all these videos are fresh transfers from the original Super 8 films to video, using a Canon 7D camera for posting here on KZbin

[@gregbishop3167]

Just saw this today. My first ever national I saw. I live 15 minutes from there. Rode my mountain bike there a few years ago. Could barely tell a track was there. Just some old ski area equipment.

[@motorrad2]

The RC500 was a beautiful, beautiful machine. It still looks trick.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

The 1976 model was the best.

[@lfoxracer]

@SJThomas1000 I am not sure I like what you are implying. This video was shot on my Canon 1014XLS Super 8 sound camera, by me, as a freelancer. I don't know why you thing you would be the only person with a slo mo capable camera, back then. I have possession of the original film from MY CAMERA and as a matte of fact, the video seen here is fresh transfer from the original film. Although my last name is Fox, I have never had any association with Fox Racing of any kind.

[@johnsully7222]

OMG…such great stuff…where are you getting this old, old , old footage? Great stuff…Please look into a video restoring/enhancing company and continue to restore this amazing video…soooo good stuff…

[@lfoxracer]

@@johnsully7222 You're looking at a transfer that was done 15 years ago. I've been remastering these films, all shot by me. Check the new version of this here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSllot3mZZsi5Isi=VoHheUm7DHVoCxOS

[@uijongbu92]

Thanks for sharing this awesome footage.

[@timmwhite9218]

watched this thing several times and finally figured it out. steve's rear brake stay arm has broken in two! no wonder he's slowing down several times looking down at the back end of the bike! back in those days we did a lot of tricks to shave weight, sometimes with poor results. a fine example of this was one i saw up in waterboro, maine. guy on an ossa 250 busted one of those crossbarless aluminum handlebars at the top of a downhill and the end went into his lung.

[@peterbrown8959]

Your camera work is impressive, I would easy believe that this was shot by pros. Thanks

[@mcgoodle]

It can't possibly be from 1980. In 1978 many of the rear number plates were mounted right on top of the air filter box. In 1979 the number plates were all moved back behind the air filters so that the scorers could see them better. This film is from 1978. Plus, if this film was from 1980, Danny LaPorte would be riding the number 1 plate. In this film, Marty Smith (Honda) is riding with number 1, because he was the champion in 1977.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

Yes. The 1978 works Suzukis had the open letters on the fuel tank without blue stripes. Also by 1980 the works Kawasakis were uni-tracs and Suzuki was transitioning to the full floaters. BTW I can't find record of a Pine Top national in 1980.

[@mikelyons7511]

I used to snow ski at this place.

[@biblebobnielsen]

Great camerawork

[@kobuswinterbach8423]

I'm from South-Africa, and we never had the privileage to see this in videos, only in American Motorcycle Magazine write-ups under the sport sections in the back of the Magazine. I use to read the textes over and over and saw in my imagination the, what can I call it? Majestic Races you Americans took for granted. Fabulous video! I just would liked to hear the amazing Two-Stroke SOUND.

[@rochellestanley9532]

The Lumberjack was a bad dude 🥇

[@thass23]

i live a minute down the road from this track. wish it never closed :/

[@420motoripper2]

We gotta ride together

[@VonSutho]

Was there no microphone on the camera you were using? The images are so clean, are they original or have they been helped? Thanks for the videos :)

[@lfoxracer]

Filmed with a high end Super 8 Camera. Silent cameras and film was the norm I'm most cases. I do have some sound vids from Sourhwick. Sound cost about 20 bucks per 3 min 20 seconds. Sound about 12.

[@ctbale1]

Was that stackable's kickstand?! A kick stand? wow, I raced back in those years, I guess I might have had one too, and marty smith sure knew how to corner! THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS

[@kimkleiner8456]

Did you race Unidilla in '77? Your name seems familiar. Don't know if it was a National or a GP but it was only professional mx i ever went to and could almost swear there was a 'Bale' on the roster. Fascinating first heat in pouring rain with most of the riders stuck at the bottom of a ravine! Love to see that video.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

Factory bikes didn’t have kickstands. Never. They really don’t belong on production bikes once they leave the dealer.

[@rotorairgroup8409]

I won the Guatemala national 80cc championship in 78. I was 10.

[@motokev2727]

How tall is Steve stackable ? 6'5"

[@bigorange113]

i'm sure it was 78.i raced a 78 yz 125 and know what all the models looked like.79 was when most manufacturers moved the rear no. plates further back.this is 1978.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

I agree. The works Suzukis had the open letters on the tank. The added the blue stripes in 1979 through the early 80s. I believe Kawasaki was running the uni track suspension by 1980.

[@StumpjumperVideosPA]

wow I help flag that day !

[@420motoripper2]

Would you be able to tell me where this was? Like did it start at the base of the slope? I’m sure that it’s completely overgrown but still. I’ve been riding around there a lot and found some whoops, not sure if they’re part of the track. I’d be really interested in being able to maybe find the old outline of it tho

[@StumpjumperVideosPA]

@@420motoripper2 hey ya jonny ! ya the track was were you pull into the parking lot , on rite , along the bottom of the hill , but it was not as far over as the ski slopes . if you were standing in the middle of what used to be the parking lot and look toward slope . i cut the timber off that whole property in 1988 for a developer its prob changed a lot by now ! you live up around escoheag r.i. ? i grew up on skunk hill rd exeter did a lot of riding up there great place to grow up , moved to pa in 91 but still go up 3-4 times a yr my brother has the homestead in exeter .

[@420motoripper2]

@@StumpjumperVideosPA I think I know where you’re talking about, I found old satellite images and believe that I found the track and it fits where you said that it was. And oh boy yes it’s changed a lot from the old pictures I’ve seen, people have gone there and burnt down the remaining huts aswell and quite a few just collapsed. I live over in west Greenwich but I ride through Arcadia management area and up to pine top. I’ll have to see if I can atleast find the outline of the track the next time that I go up there. The track just looked absolutely amazing in the video and now you can’t even tell that it’s there. But the next time I go there I can take some pictures for you if you’d like so that you can see how it is nowadays. Sad that they didn’t keep the track going. Well thanks for the help

[@johnsully7222]

Did Weinert ever have a bike, even close to the Honda’s, Suzuki’s?

[@jw621557]

@ctbale1 Not sure where you saw the kickstand because AMA rules stated back then the kickstand had to be removed.

[@frankkorpela3382]

Great Video,was there week after,raced only once there.NEMA was the organization then.Very hot there when i raced.Had a Pine Top shirt from then.

[@420motoripper2]

Hey do you remember where the track was? Was it the bottom of the slope or was it like on the slope?

[@still2fast]

I was there with NEMA after this race too. I went 3-1 in 0-85cc Under 12 novice class. The fencing was still up from the national.

[@gregbishop3167]

@@420motoripper2 Old thread for me to reply to but i believe the front straight went up the slope. I remember standing there and hearing the sound of the engines increase and decrease in revs as they went up the whooped slope. And the smell of Castrol!

[@muzzmatrix]

Didn't Stackable ride a Maico during the '77 season? Didn't know he went green in '78.

[@rrstieb]

Awesome!!

[@luistrejos5997]

What about the unitrak of the kawi unitrak since 1980

[@tomrayburn9877]

Easy to see why Stackable switched to Maico.The big Kaw was beatin him to death.He was always our hero.I remember the Austin Tx rider had a pot leaf on the top of his helmet.Aint it fun being from Texas

[@Buelligan88]

I have no recollection of Steve Stackable having a factory Kawasaki ride, but there he is. Must have been a one season deal. It does look like the rear suspension on his bike isn't dialed in very well.

[@23fm]

Stackable was on Maico before Kawasaki too wasn't he, then back to Maico in 79.

[@erlstone]

Super cool!...

[@frankkorpela3382]

I raced back then on the same day,in the 85cc novice class too.I was leading for some the raced and got caught up in the fence netting,finished towards the back of pack that day.My # was 162 what was yours?

[@420motoripper2]

Hey man where was the track? Like the bottom of the slope? The top

[@still2fast]

Frank I may have some pictures of you from that race. I was in the same class. I was #238. I think I remember you. I went 3-1 that day.

[@pursang833]

@beetee57 National number 73 in 1982 if memory serves and Rick Sidle was National number 87 I think. Remember racing against you at Sleepy Hollow a few times though for the most part we only ran District 5. Hope life is treating you well......

[@motorhead6763]

pursang833 bultaco ossa montessa had Them awesome bikes

[@mikerafonemusic6177]

the yz is beautiful!

[@dieseldave71]

mikerafone music They're all beautiful! That was when the bikes had personality- not all of them were good, but they all had them and they were all different. They were designed by men, not soulless computers. Of course, that goes not only for bikes but for cars, trucks, just about everything really

[@ctbale1]

yup its stakables rear brake arm brace rod. 8:43 plain as day. I have a 2003 YZ250 now, its 11 years old and it still seems like its from the future! I am old! lol

[@pursang833]

@jw621557 Must have been the Kawi's back then because if I didn't know better I would have sworn Stackable was Jimmy Weinert. The bike must have forced that style or something. I also noticed that Smith's bike was tracking nicely and then you see Stackable and his is going boing boing boing.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

I thought it was Weinert too!!!

[@motorhead6763]

nice

[@jw621557]

@jwright621557 I was a big Stackable fan from his Maico days all the way through Suzuki and then on the Kawi's but I hated that he got a ride with Kawi. They were not that good of a team back then, their bikes were fast but was poor handling.

[@bobbydale1938]

Sucks being last in the start in a cloud of roost and dust

[@cesarbueno4226]

🇧🇷👍🤠

[@bikernu]

I like the fact steve couldnt pass marty. In fact towards the end of the video steve couldnt even see marty because marty pulled away from steve. LOL

[@Viking380]

Stack had a broken rear break stay, I’m sure that didn’t help.

[@bikernu]

@@Viking380 Steve didn't seem to have any problems in the first 8 minutes in the video

[@buford9752]

No one could corner like Marty back then. Fluid

[@kevinstearns4198]

those were the days. fukin air cooled.

[@clayton5150]

+Kevin Stearns Me and my dad are switching to air cooled two smokers for woods. They are much lighter than water cooled setup and keep the mass lower in the frame. radiators are heavy. He put a blaster 200 in a yz125 frame bike weighs 200lbs flat. Im working on a yz400 smoker

[@jpmorgen5726]

Stackable riding a Kawasaki like it is a Maico, understandable.

[@luistrejos5997]

This not 78 its 1980

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

No. Works Suzuki’s had the blue stripes on the tank by 1980. This is 1978

[@michaelwest9694]

It's 1978. Marty Smith is running the number 1 plate because he was the defending national championship, having won the 500 title in 1977.

[@johnnydeadmond7228]

I met Rick Burgett a few times. This is the year he won the championship. Another Oregonian won in 1980, Chuck Sun. Just ask us old guys, we were there.