1980s Alice Gear training video

This video shows the proper way to set up your Alice equipment to the standard of the 82nd Airborne Division in the 1980's

[@hawlikd]

Love how the baret covers the whole right eye. Very stylish for the 1980's.

[@TeurastajaNexus]

:D

[@deathfromabove2250]

Worn the same way today for the most part.

[@sparky2057]

The very last thing he did was a nod, akin to a modern hair flip.

[@JohnnyRep-u4e]

Stylish, indeed.

[@death31313]

1990s "Medical kit" contains one bandage. Modern medical kit contains bandages, chest seals, hemostatic gauze, several tourniquets, burn dressings and additional gear. Crazy how much things have changed.

[@vjrap]

crazy how much our kit weighs too xD

[@namenotfound8747]

@@vjrap Fun Fact: The modern warfighter carries roughly the same amount of weight as did ancient warfighters of antiquity. While the gear is completely different, by weight, it's roughly the same.

[@listen_to_the_wizard321]

@@namenotfound8747 I suppose you're limited by human physiology beyond a certain point.

[@seanassociateproductions1691]

@@namenotfound8747 sort of, 60 pounds is kinda the general consensus throughout history or whatever the equivalent to a third of your body weight is. This goes for everybody from Spartans to Napoleons Old Guard. Since ww2 soldiers have started carrying drastically more weight. Now in with full ruck and with battle rattle the gear is 100 pounds or more depending on weapon system and if you have radios etc etc.

[@lonestarpiper4917]

Fallujah and Mog changed a lot with regards to unit SOPs and medical equipment.

[@ronaldborders6814]

I was in the 82nd from 1988 to 1992 and everybody from E-1 to Battalion Commander wore the LBJ the same. We were issued a butt pack and had a packing list for. I was in 1/504 and pretty much was set up like that.

[@mikenedoma1363]

I rather be in the belly of a whore than a trooper in the ‘04. Just kidding brother, was in the 2/505. This vid bring back memories lol.

[@canslawcaddy6662]

I also was in the 1/504 PIR. I had a great time in this unit. AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY!

[@andrewheisinger5797]

So regardless of job/position people had the same setup? That’s fucking stupid.

[@scoutdogfsr]

1/504th from 86 to 92. Did not have plastic alice belt latch at 1st (still have that 1st belt and butt pack). Damn sure don't remember this video either but the old grey matter is fuzzy at times now. We did load gear like that and the para cord was the 1st mod to happen. I think my hips are still bruised. Glad my son has better kit than we had. He gets to buy comfy optional boots and covers up with goretex gear rather than useless m65 and half shelter poncho.

[@MSGtJimator]

@@scoutdogfsr I’m pretty sure this is not a real 80’s video

[@pilgrim42]

I was in the Division from '85 -'87 (2/504) and it was not uncommon to replace all the metal clips on the harness with 550 cord. This is not only more comfortable when wearing a ruck, but also more comfortable when in a parachute harness. Other than division review, we never had bayonets issued to us when going to the field (that may have been different in other battalions), but most 11B's did have knives of some type on their LBE's. I had one LBE for actual use and another for IG or other inspections.

[@Jason-iz6ob]

Other than bayonet training in basic I drew a bayonet exactly one time. We had a brigade change of command ceremony in Korea and we marched with fixed bayonets…..

[@vermontvermont9292]

"The new MRE's" love it. Still enjoy Alice gear, and the later IIFS kit.

[@claymorelessbag3042]

Alice is a great system its durable, cheap , compact and convenient

[@cctproductions6976]

@@claymorelessbag3042 yea!!!!!!

[@kristopherlennon8471]

instablaster

[@scottcarrasca8658]

1/501st 89-92. Our SOP was close but everyone was issued a buttpack, and a compass. Bayonet was on the right side unless you were a machine gunner or 11C and carried a side arm on the right side. Flashlight or mini-mag with red lens went on right ammo pouch, and pace cord on right shoulder strap. Some NCOs had a beacon on their shoulder straps, and many of us carried a 3rd or 4th ammo pouch. Oh yeah, everything was tied down including the canteens.

[@noface4176]

How was it tied down?

[@scottcarrasca8658]

@@noface4176 everything tied to the LCE belt with gutted 550. Bayonets, sidearms, canteens all had an additional length of 550 so they could be used without untying. I thought it was dumb as shit until I bounced off a C130 and woke on the DZ to find my bayonet a couple feet away held on my 550.

[@JohnRodriguez-si9si]

In 1987 to 1998, with 1 Year and 4 Months in the Army National Guard ( Army National Guard) and US Army Reserve ( USAR) , I Myself wore the ALICE ( All purpose, Lightweight, Individual Carrying Equipment) 782 " Deuce " Gear / TA-50 ,and, the Woodland M81 BDU Cammies on Active Federal Military Service ( AFMS) with Both the Marine Corps and Army. At 55 Years Old in 2024 , I Myself STILL own and use ALICE and MOLLE Gear .

[@recondo886]

we put the compass in a front pocket and ran the lanyard thru the pen hole of the pocket. flashlight went in the ruck(mother Alice) the M17A1 had the drink tube for drinking from canteens and 50 or 100 mph tape was a must have.

[@thomaswilson3437]

I was in 3/325, and this is pretty close to the SOP at the time ('83-'85). The bandage was moved up to the left shoulder suspender, We were not allowed to use the butt pack, but were all issued the large ALICE. Compass did go on right hand side as shown, but you were allowed a flashlight on the right shoulder suspender, secured with either a large black retaining band, or an elastic one. As a commo guy we replaced the bayonet with a TE-33 wire man kit consisting of Lineman's pliers (TL's) a folding knife, and usually a roll of electrical tape (I lost a really good set of TL's over Sicily DZ one night because I did not have a dummy cord on them). However, like Ronald said earlier, everyone wore it the same way. Now, anyone want to tell me what they actually put in their ammunition pouches?

[@richardschafer7858]

I was 3/325 in Vicenza, 88-90. When I was in recon we all had butt pouches, and usually a third ammo pouch as an admin pouch. I was RTO so I always carried that copper wire reel to make expedient bi directional antennas. Nobody used those clunky 90 degree flashlights by then Thank God. LOL

[@John-if6hp]

I came here to say the same. We put the bandage and the flashlight on the suspenders

[@j.r.zavala]

Stationed at Fr. Bragg, I was in a airborne operation and had that green flashlight mounted on my right shoulder suspender. Upon exit from the C-141 that darn flashlight hit my mouth and somehow busted my lip wide open. Moral of the story, that was the last time I wore that flashlight on any of my LBE shoulder suspenders. Airborne!

[@williampennjr.4448]

I served in 1990. Nice to see nothing changed in ten years. (sarcasm) standard for the infantry was to wear the medical pouch on the suspenders.

[@DmakAttack]

So... at least 1984. The BDUs began to be issued in Jan 1984. At which point the butt pack was no longer issues. The med ALICE pack had replaced it at that point

[@christopherhansford5259]

BDUs were issued for the 82nd before the Grenada invasion in 1983.

[@brandonpalladino6973]

The butt pack was not an issue item at this time but was commonly purchased at local surplus stores in the 80s

[@mnguy98]

I also read somewhere (don't remember where) that some units, still had lots of butt packs in their inventories, and were never told to stop issuing them.

[@karlsiegtag3210]

@Paul Revere its 2020 and some units still have Alice packs on their books because CIF won't take them back now. Ask me how I know. I took a few off their hands.

[@895austin]

I don't know about the Army. But, I was issued (late 90's) the Buttpack and Medium ALICE pack. I will say that I didn't see any of the canvas buttpacks at all. We were using all nylon type material. Since I was Marine Infantry we were issued the LBV instead of H or Y harness and mag pouches. We were also issued the CFP-90 pack (we called the vector pack) which was not trustworthy and did fail too often. That is why they still issued the ALICE, because we knew if wasn't going to fail.

[@alv4475]

This was my era of gear and bdu.

[@MG-wi1eq]

Man this is nice. Would 4 magazine pouches (2 on each side) be appropriate for 1980s kits? Would black Corcoran jump boots also be appropriate for airborne loadouts of this era too?

[@brandonpalladino6973]

4 pouches did happen but not very common for airborne. The Corcoran jump boots were only used for dress uniforms so not correct for a combat role

[@MG-wi1eq]

Brandon Palladino Thank you very much for the info.

[@gregsmall5939]

@@brandonpalladino6973 I had a Squad Leader in the PA Guard who was 82nd from '83-'85. He was always told that "Jump Boots" were considered unsafe/ unsat for actual jumps. Only Leg or Jungle boots were authorized.

[@brandonpalladino6973]

That is correct. Jump boots were only used for dress occasions. Regular issue leather boots or jungle boots were the go to field boots at the time

[@canslawcaddy6662]

Jump boots aren't for the field but for the dress uniform. The panama tread boots were my boot of choice back when I wore BDU's.

[@JJO117]

I like how the Australian army kept issuing us gear like this till the last few years.

[@mixmaster2909]

Nothing wrong with that alice gear is fantastic and unbreakable

[@JJO117]

@@mixmaster2909 Well our new webbing resembles the Alice Webbing but honestly you'd probably be happier running with the Alice than Body armour.

[@mixmaster2909]

@@JJO117 i hate body armor as far as body armor is concerned whenever im on patrol or ruckmarching all i wear is a ballistic helemt my webgear and rucksack and thats it

[@JJO117]

@@mixmaster2909 Yeah we stick with our chest rig or webbing and bush hat but on big exes they make us wear the whole lot. we wear the team wendy helmets they are great you'd think but long periods they are a pain.

[@claymorelessbag3042]

@@mixmaster2909 I agree I am just a kid but I prefer my dads Alice web gear over his plate carrier I run faster, can get lower to the ground and crawl way better using Alice gear

[@Xtragicfever]

Tie down chord in infantry parlance is "dummy chord." An entire company/regiment were prevented from leaving the field because some dumb private lost his rifle or NVG. This meant the CO couldn't go home because all of the equipment he signed for wasn't accounted for.

[@Xtragicfever]

@PompierCanadien You're right. I'm usually making beats so I must have had music on the brain when writing that message.

[@dalevodden1359]

You forgot the canteen cups and that belt buckle is a pice of crap the fast stack buckle is the better one and the canteen cup with the fold under handle is a better canteen cup not the batwing

[@chadblacksteele2465]

Great video! You actually would think thia was filmed in the 80s. Well done.

[@fordwk]

It was...

[@chadblacksteele2465]

@@fordwk actually it wasn't. Thia is a retro video.

[@ChickenShackIRL]

The only thing that gave it away was the audio quality. It was way too clear to be from the 80s lol

[@hectorpuente316]

@ChickenShackIRL I thought I was the only one. His face looks too clean and chubby. I’ve noticed until the late 80s men especially looked more lean and rugged. Also his voice is softer.

[@davidloganguest9662]

As a side note, the FM 21-15 (1977) Shows the buttpack as issued with the 1956 gear with the H type suspender. The Y type were not issued with the buttpack, so that may be part of the use/issue differences.

[@claymorelessbag3042]

Alice did have a buttpack that's why adjusting the y suspenders on the front and back as high as you can get them if it has no butpack the back part of the pistol belt will ride higher but while its still adjusted like that throw on a butt pack and you're belt will be even

[@larslevinberget9558]

I have both editions of the manual (or are there more?) and they tend to ignore the M1967 gear, barely mentioning 1-3 pieces as either M1956 or LC1 gear. It was actually the missing link between the 2, some bad ideas like plastic buttons, fixed straps, thin material, Davis buckle etc., but also some superior ideas like the e-tool carrier, experimental plastic clips (that would inspire the Malice clips 40 years later), H-suspenders with the shoulder hooks, the sleeping gear carrier and...the nylon butt-pack!

[@gooby8953]

@@claymorelessbag3042 the ALICE buttpack was rarely used outside of training exercises and was basically just slightly different than the previous one. Next came the IIFS buttpack which is the woodland camo one.

[@dennishall8779]

I liked his video!!

[@edwards5851]

Very informative videos dude, really helpful!

[@Indylimburg]

Lol, the memes about 82nd berets were as true yesterday as they are today!

[@Susan-r1s]

It amuses me when the folk , where I live discuss me, by calling me Alice. So my veterans brain takes me right back to my training. Lol. Reply if you know What Alice in the armed forces stands for.

[@eebarreto]

Every Unit has their own SOP's So, this may change as you PCS to another unit!

I do reenacting for operation "just cause" i use 3 mag pouches radio 3 canteens and a pistol

[@huntclanhunt9697]

Were the airborne the only ones issued M81 woodlands in Grenada?

[@williamdawson4023]

I don't believe so

[@LKS-1976]

I was 2/325 AIR in mid/late 90s, we wore identical

[@BryarFishy]

What is the silver clip hanging off the left Alice pouch I was just wondering. By the way, great video!!

[@zackscott903]

That is there flash light

[@zackscott903]

And if your talking before it that it the belt buckle

[@tonyngc]

D-ring carabiner.

[@ronaldrobertson2332]

It's hanging off the grenade pouch on the small arms case. That's a snaplink (carabiner).

[@Mr.PastGlory]

Excellent video. Thanks a lot. You should have done that in 4:3 instead of 16:9. :-)

[@xusmico187]

square away that head gear.

[@piskey44]

Forgot how great these videos are.

[@pillscottvt6628]

Good times! SAPPERs forward!

[@History_Coffee]

I can tell it's 82nd without the title because his beret is ass

[@huntclanhunt9697]

Why is it colored like it's made to watched through 3D glasses?

[@mixmaster2909]

Its a "vintange" filter you can get on any samsung or iphone

[@fordwk]

@@mixmaster2909 Do you think this is fake?

[@dawsonharris2357]

That’s such an 80’s kind of American accent

[@fordwk]

What else could the ammo pouches be used for?

[@krzysztofputo2169]

can you show how wear alice kit and rustack ?

[@Revbone450]

Pretty sure the "Y" harness was never used by the 82nd, the "H" harness supported the load much better and prevented twisting.

[@noface4176]

Y harness was standard issue in the 82nd

[@212caboose]

"...Or the new MRE's"... Jeebus.

[@ColdCoorsBanquet]

What type of watch are you wearing?

[@brandonpalladino6973]

It is a timex wind up from the 70s

[@vermontvermont9292]

Awesome!

[@akompsupport]

Some good protips here I had not thought of.

[@samwhittemore5614]

"New" MREs.....I'm old.

[@Heisenberg000.]

I like The affect that you did but it’s actually kind of hard to see what you’re pointing at like the little things like a compass pouch like I can barely see it because of the quality but The effect is really cool

[@juansimon5802]

shit sure has changed.

[@randybrown140]

To much Bounce and bounce hurts, I had a Alice clip stick in my side wonder why I was bleeding. Only had canteens and mag pouches on my belt and they were on my sides not front or back

[@phillyphilhouse79]

Were you in the 82nd during the 80s?

[@brandonpalladino6973]

I was in the 82nd from 13-16. But we do have guys who were in during the 80s

[@phillyphilhouse79]

@@brandonpalladino6973 Oh ok. My brother was 82nd in the early 90s. I got in right when they switched from alice to molle, but I was in the 101st. I had a good time there as an 11B. My company were the ones that took out uday and qusay hussein in 2003. Got out, was called back to active duty 16 months later and needs of the army reclassed me to support MOS. Sucked balls after that. Thought about going to the 82nd to be in the real airborne, but Germany was available for reenlistment so I went there instead. LoL

[@karlsiegtag3210]

@@brandonpalladino6973 is this your dad in the video then Brandon?

[@brandonpalladino6973]

@@karlsiegtag3210 no it's me lol

[@karlsiegtag3210]

​@@brandonpalladino6973 Oh well thank you SSG Palladino for your original videos. Question on the 8600 miles to redsquare moscow. I understand the context of the cold war but 8600miles?

[@pupapupa4844]

Thanks for uploading it! What does it means the last sentence?

[@dus777]

Russia was the scary bad-guy at the time. Watch the original Red dawn movie for culture examples of the time.

[@recondo886]

height of the Cold War. Soviet tanks poised to roll through West Germany... there were a few Islamic terrorist attacks during the 80s but the Soviets were the big threat.

[@carsonp.7009]

Haha! Nice try

[@TheBurningLion]

Så jä*la bra! Ni är grymma!

[@gud2go50]

Why is his unifom wrinkled and un-sat.

[@tracker-one-niner]

What about the pistol? NCOs are issued a side arm.

[@brandonpalladino6973]

Thats not correct. NCOs did not all carry a side arm by default.

[@tracker-one-niner]

@@brandonpalladino6973 Granted..

[@Paul1970]

Motivating!

[@tB3o3tR9o9]

even in the 80's the Video Quality was better^^

[@djsawtooth7889]

this was helpful

[@iantorres8253]

Why are they reviewing Rotc gear

[@mitchellsmith4690]

82d 80 to 84, 87 to 90...never saw this video..

[@WWIIman1942]

I see a lot of pics of the 82nd AB (505th and 325th) in Desert Storm and their bandage pouches are on the right side, not the left side like you show. Can you explain this? Working on a 325th AIR impression for Desert Storm.

[@Jason-iz6ob]

It’s dumb to wear it on the right side. Interferes with shouldering your rifle. We had to wear them on the left when I was in 3ID, unless you were left handed.

[@WWIIman1942]

@@Jason-iz6ob On the right side of the belt, not the suspenders. Look at his setup closer.

[@stevedawson741]

Must have been in Grenada or Panama

[@derekgauthier1785]

Why Do you always Say that this setup is only for ncos e5 and above ? Why cant e4 and below use it?

[@brandonpalladino6973]

It can be used by e4s but would commonly be worn like that for team leaders and above due to the compass and the butt pack for mission essential items.

[@scallen3841]

@@brandonpalladino6973 Why can't anyone carry a compass ?

[@895austin]

I was in a Marine Infantry unit and we got one compass per vehicle. Not everyone is issued a compass. Our compasses were considered a "sensitive" item.

[@todd2048]

Hell ya NVGs what NVGs you mean the ones in supply we would test out once a year then lock them in a wooden box in supply! Also most units would make it so that only squad ldr and above could have this type of gear. Although the Buttpack anyone could get out in town that was allowed.

[@Johnpork.0]

I have the kit the belt is the one that I. Setting

[@suspicioususer]

Now I can jump into Panama

[@trollersvex5818]

My grandpa was in the 82nd airborne and went in after veitnam and is a cold wat vet😁😁

[@dalevodden1359]

It was stupid for the military to drop the Alice gear and go with the mole gear Alice is a lot better than the mole

[@dalevodden1359]

@The guerillas' Hide yes I am a vet

[@dalevodden1359]

@The guerillas' Hide I was in from 1978 to1981 I only put 3 years in because I got tired of the racist BS I got out just as they were introducing camouflage uniforms and it was woodland camouflage I wish I had stayed in but like I said I got tired of the racist BS I wasn't going to stay in and have to put up with that crap.God Bless

[@dalevodden1359]

@The guerillas' Hide I'm a white male and both witnessed and discriminated against the reason why the real reason why I left was I was up for E4 I was third on the list to be promoted they took my name off the list put a black guy on the list that just got his E3 and promoted him before never even decided to promote me I told him they could stick their races bullshit Army and I got out when I got out and I got out as an E1 I told him to stick the rank where the sun don't shine I could have cared less but I did make sure one thing I got my honorable and I got screwed on getting the Good conduct metal so they screwed me on the Good conduct middle and screwed me in the rink if I had made E4 I would have reenlisted because I really wanted to stay in for my 20 and have a decent retirement but no they had the stick me in a racist ass company should have gone to Germany I know if I'd gone to Germany I would have made E5 and gone from there but it is what it is and there was a surgeon behind all that too Sergeant no one really liked but a lot of people kissed his ass God bless

[@davidschaum2625]

Protective mask not a gas mask

[@HazmatUnit]

You must refer to it as the Mask, CHEMICAL-BIOLOGICAL: FIELD JK

[@fordwk]

We had to Drop and give 25 if we said Gas Mask...

[@kurtrussell5228]

Not from the 80s.....

[@brandonpalladino6973]

I know...we made it

[@TheBackpackingSailor]

@@brandonpalladino6973 that makes sense now

[@wagner77able]

Are you in an actual living history unit?

[@brandonpalladino6973]

82nd Airborne Living History Association alongside Southern Front Events

[@wagner77able]

@@brandonpalladino6973 thank you

[@charlese.dobisjr.4406]

Negative.

[@johnmorgan4124]

Good luck with the march to Moscow Lol. Thing is that didn't go down well for the French or Na*is. Fact is, the Russians never were going to come and wont now so why be TOLD to hate people who you have never met? Yembo.

[@WWIIman1942]

This guy is an 82nd AB reenactor (and veteran) and it's a reference to a sign that was put up at Fort Bragg during the Cold War. He's not saying to hate anyone, he's just going along with the 1980s/cold war era theme.

[@3MTA3-]

This guy sounds like Garrand Thumb