I loved my Citroen visa 650 special 1983 model. It was my first car after passing my driving test in 1993. In 10yesrs it only had 3 major faults 1 french alternator 2 gearbox select lever snapped off in top of gearbox it has a roll pin in there where it broke. Headlamp switch dip/mainbeam failed it melted and bonus was the heater was not very warm in rain if you ran through a deep puddle it would steam up inside. It did have some major repairs to inner sills and sill ends where the rear suspension mount bolts come through floor under rear seat the car body split/tore and I had to weld a plate over it. Other wise as a car it was great slow till you got it up to speed. Great to see a nice brochure in such good condition. Good work hub nut
@scootyman29743 жыл бұрын
I remember as a teenager, I used to spend my time after school walking around all of the car dealerships collecting brochures. Citroen was the one I always used to look forward to getting. I can remember that very brochure and also I remember the 2cv6 brochures featuring TinTin. I think that came a few years later. Happy memories and clearly the reason I have a quirky love for French cars.
@gosportjamie3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I had those 2CV6 brochures, mostly from the mid '80s on. I probably do still have them somewhere, in the many, many boxes of old car magazines that largely fill the garage and various other rooms of the house. I also have mid '80s Coleman-Milne brochures, which are really quite impressive...
@paulc95883 жыл бұрын
Me too. Fiat was one of the best, quality brochures and sometimes freebies like pens, badges, key rings . . . and even balloons!
@andreaabout3 жыл бұрын
My dad had a blue GS Pallas auto, very soft and comfy seats. My sister`s boyfriend back in the 80s scraped his mum`s red Visa while reversing out of the garage. He was in a panic and I helped remove the front wing and push out the dent and my sister got some matching paint from our local garage, managed to patch it up and was ages before his mum though something was odd. Fun times! Great video and a nice bit of history. Thank you. Take care.
@ttbdrummer3 жыл бұрын
This is like an episode of twin cam
@paul11533 жыл бұрын
Only no where as good.
@arthuritchybollix50643 жыл бұрын
No he just copied twin cams idea
@ianstewartorr84553 жыл бұрын
Wonderful nostalgia thanks Hub Nut greetings from Scotland 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@rahmann9363 жыл бұрын
Those were the days when you got every model in the range in one brochure.👍 I remember getting a Citroen brochure in the 70s from a school friend and I was liking the CX the most with its futuristic styling. Your partner got good taste wanting a CX. Maybe you could buy her one when she pass her test.
@robc59553 жыл бұрын
Love a good brochure run thru, more please.
@andrewthompsonuk13 жыл бұрын
Loved that, there has never been anything quite like that CX Familiale. A friend had one he used to use for a touring band. 8 people on board and a huge trailer behind no problem.
@HowardLeVert3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that, it makes me want to try and find my collection of car brochures from the 1982 NEC Motor Show. My much-missed Renault 16 was another car you could drive with a puncture (this happened several times until the problem was found - a rusty rim puncturing the inner tube) and similarly, I remember the owner of the village garage saying how much the 16s just blew away the British competition of the day - noteworthy to him were the 5-bearing crankshaft ("you could play a tune on a Mini engine by comparison quite quickly" he said) but particularly praiseworthy in his mind was the brake compensation at the rear.
@MetalTrabant3 жыл бұрын
I have a French brochure of the '69 Citroen lineup, with the 2CV, Dyane, Ami 6, DS, my favourites :) Although it only has standard side/front/rear view pictures, and a few from the interiors, not much fantasy went into the photography... I understand Ms. Hubnut's fancy for a CX, as my dad also had a metallic pistachio green CX Break, with the chrome bumpers/hubcaps, and the rotating dials, with brown interior. It was a frickin' spaceship, and was a joy to look at and ride in. The raising of the suspension on startup is the coolest party trick ever on a car... :)
@julienbee346710 ай бұрын
The ami6 is the most exciting
@johnwaga37023 жыл бұрын
My Dad had an early GSA which I drove a lot and my first brand new car was a Visa. Happy days!
@nickdoughty5183 жыл бұрын
You should be tidying and organising!
@pizzalover33 жыл бұрын
Great video, found it very interesting. Thanks
@petergouldbourn23123 жыл бұрын
Great video Ian. I really really enjoyed it. Like yourself I am a facts and figures geek. Thank for sharing your passion with me. Pete 🇬🇧
@plym19693 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video Ian.
@JS-19833 жыл бұрын
Different, but great video! Love to see different brochures, because i have collected quite a lot (hundreds) of different brochures of, cars, trucks and tractors. I think older brochures are art, lots of beautiful photos. Would be nice to see more of these.
@theteacaddy27663 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing brought back fond memories of when my town had a Citroen dealership. Has a teenager me and my friend would be always going in mithering the staff for brochures or promo stuff use to come away with bags of stuff like we had being to a motor show. Remember the launch of the Citroen XM and being blown away how it looked so modern and like nothing we ever seen before like a car from the future. Where are all the early XM's
@douglasfleetney50313 жыл бұрын
I had this brochure when it first came out! The Citroen Dealership was not far from where I worked and as I knew the sales team (customers of the place I worked) and had just gained my Dyane (still had a prov licence at that time) one of them tried to tempt me into a Visa. I kept the Dyane until I got my first GS. Swapped that after 6 months for a CX.... Happy Chevron Days when cars were fun, not clinical... Nice one Ian, thanks for the trip down memory lane.
@simonhodgetts65303 жыл бұрын
I used to have this brochure - the photos showing the mad dashboards for the Visa, GSA and CX were awesome, as were the CX GTi mk1 pics (still on my ultimate car wish list!)
@iida2443 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked the broucher I sent you as a gift made a great video
@andrewgreen77783 жыл бұрын
If you are stuck for jobs you could clean the oil off TWC's engine then you will be able to see where the leaks are rather than wait until it is peeing out.
@zugbug19863 жыл бұрын
I miss good old fashion car brochures.
@timbre79993 жыл бұрын
Really wonderful brochure, brings back good memories of our old Visa 11RE.
@cj9739-y7u3 жыл бұрын
Got my copy of that at a tiny car show at the Spalding tulip hall. Bizarrely they also had a selection of skoda Estelles parked right next to a fleet of Porsche models. The staff seems fine letting my 12 yr old self sit in a 911 and I remember how heavy the clutch was!! They also let me grab armfuls of brochures - which I’ve still got - fab
@s_class70273 жыл бұрын
Very nice brochure. I remember reading my manual in the early nineties to discover the econoscope.
@torresalex3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think you should humour Ms Hubnut and get a CX...
@misshubnut3 жыл бұрын
So do I!
@ASCIITerminal3 жыл бұрын
Miss Hubnut really should obtain a CX Loadrunner.
@gryfandjane3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating read! And thanks for the close-ups of TWC, who is looking decidedly poxy.
@hunchanchoc84183 жыл бұрын
I see Citroen are finally trying to cash-in on their heritage in their latest TV ad, with cameos by the 2CV, GS, Ami 6 (and doubtless other models), and promoting the absorbent ride of the new C4. About time too, really - my body is sick of being jarred and jolted, and I'm honestly surprised I didn't burst a tyre, twice, on deep, sharp-edged potholes on a journey on the A1 yesterday.
@alansimpson8353 жыл бұрын
I never knew that about the Citroen badge or about the power of the CX exhaust :) . Most enlightening
@craigmclean82603 жыл бұрын
I can attest to the quality of the 1980s Michelin tires; my new 1984 Accord had MXL series tires, which, to my surprise, were said to be good for 80,000 miles...this turned out to be about right; I changed them out about the same time I had the shock-struts replaced, somewhere about 78,000 miles. They were also surprisingly good in the snow!
@KarlHamilton3 жыл бұрын
TwinCam just fell off his chair.
@shaydevlin55573 жыл бұрын
Is it TwinCam inspired good KZbin channel
@matthewc.4193 жыл бұрын
Bout 88 i worked for Citroen for a bit , remember cleaning a visa in a baby blue colour.........and cleaning the show room , there was cx's in there ........... Its now a carpet selling shop place
@kevinwhelan81263 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable as always, and informative. Really looking forward to material on the Nissan Primera 😀😀😀
@typos14773 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had this brochure when I was a kid ! In fact I ve still got it in the loft !
@neilwalsh40583 жыл бұрын
I do love an old brochure and that was very comprehensive both in content and your presentation of it, especially when you corrected a manufacturers claim👍 Interesting how a W123 is often used as a bench mark to compare similar models. Pity they never mention comparative survival rates. Other models may have had more advanced technologies but they weren't in the same league for longivity.
@bombakdik3 жыл бұрын
I love this brochure. My grandfather only drove DS Citroens. He has had more than 10 as daily drivers. He was simply astonished by the comfort. And yes, he had a CX too which he liked very much. I miss him a lot. Thank you for this. Edit: please don’t sell the Oltcit and neither the Yugo. When you called the Visa beige from the brochure I had a good laugh. Isn’t it really turd brown? Haha
@machiningbasics17293 жыл бұрын
Will be excellent to see you rust proofing the gsa as it’s super important. I’m doing my bikes soon
@locutus1553 жыл бұрын
I owned an "A" plate LNA back in the early 1990's a "X" plate 2 pot Visa a few years later. I also learned to drive on my father's "S" plate GS. He also had a 2 pot Visa and. "B" plate BX over the years. He wanted an XM but couldn't find one in his price range so went for a Proton Aeroback which lasted him until he died in 2003.
@kevinwhelan81263 жыл бұрын
I thought for a horrible minute that was a can of lager and an ashtray sitting on the back of TWC lol 🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣!!!!!
@daniellee90153 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Ian
@niallsommerville99413 жыл бұрын
Lovely brochure, takes me back to the days when we still had municipal golf courses. I loved the satellite switches so much I bought a set to use on a kit car that never got used and ended up selling them to someone in the US, which surprised me as I didn't think the Visa was sold in the US?
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't, but it's amazing where these cars end up.
@niallsommerville99413 жыл бұрын
@@HubNut Interesting, thanks Ian.
@andicog3 жыл бұрын
Always loved car brochures, BMW made some beautiful ones back in the 70's, I had all the block colour VW ones from our local dealer. Begging letters scored me Ferrari 365 boxer, lancia Stratos and Lamborghini Espada and Silouette. Such a shame a lot of companies have gone to e brochures.
@happyhermit20223 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you...as a previous owner of a GSA Pallas and a member of the COC...imagine my excitement tripping over a GSA Club Estate in San Pedro Alacantra Spain in quite remarkable condition a year ago....the owner had it from new and uses it every day...
@terabyte16953 жыл бұрын
i used to have bx,s and i loved them.
@andrewentwistle5153 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see & listen to the history of 3 of Citroen's most interesting car's of the 80's.
@ttbdrummer3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic 😄
@graemew70013 жыл бұрын
Having googled the Citroën Belphégor I see that it had a face that only a mother could love, I do enjoy looking through old car literature although it does make me realise how old I am now haha!!
@chucku003 жыл бұрын
A funny truck where you could see through the plexiglas panel under the headlights what brand and type of oil the owner used, Total 15W40 most of the time.
@saxon-mt5by3 жыл бұрын
Historical trivia: whilst Citroen and Lancia both like to claim a first for using unitary construction, Lagonda was there before them both with the 11.1hp in 1913 (and no doubt someone will come up with an even earlier example - it's always dodgy to claim a first!)
@tonycox56253 жыл бұрын
Another good one Ian, I remember wandering around loads of dealerships in 1968 collecting brochures for a school project. Got loads of good Ford and Mercedes ones but after I'd handed them in I never did get them back.😖
@caw25sha3 жыл бұрын
We had to do boring stuff like Shakespeare.
@tonycox56253 жыл бұрын
@@caw25sha I bloody hate Shakespeare! 😂
@julianevans95483 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, thanks.
@johnd88923 жыл бұрын
A choice score for me was the Mazda Cosmo rotary sports car when released in Australia. Holden Hurricane a good one too. Even the XY Ford Falcon one is now wanted. As was a Falcon XY GT HO selling for over $1.1 million the other day.
@frglee3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how some simple and some even quite old fashioned cars for the time had something of an Indian Summer of production years after production might have otherwise ended. They were often marketed as low budget alternatives to replacement models that had superseded them years previously. The Citroen 2CV, Renault 4, Morris Minor, BL Mini, BL Maestro, the original VW Beetle and the Ford Pop 103E come to mind.
@ThePiquedPigeon3 жыл бұрын
Hub Cam
@owensteele12743 жыл бұрын
5:46 to 6:05 That is correct. A very safe and practical steering and suspension design. It would be a roll-over if the same thing happens driving a new BMW Five-Series with a caravan.
@barryrathbone3 жыл бұрын
The 1218cc suitcase engine was also in the Renault 14 and Talbot Samba
@gosportjamie3 жыл бұрын
At that point in time, and for most of the '80s, the 2CV merited its' own brochure in the UK...
@briandamaged3233 жыл бұрын
Truck Trivia: The Commer Commando was available in the UK with a 318ci PETROL Chrysler V8 when it first launched in 1976.
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know they sold them here. Found one in New Zealand with the petrol V8. Economy must have been terrifying!
@waynetetley5843 жыл бұрын
82 when 2CVs got disc brakes and round lamps in the uk and I got my new special VEL649X which I believe is still on the road somewhere
@caw25sha3 жыл бұрын
Currently on a SORN, MOT until August.
@caw25sha3 жыл бұрын
Forgot the link: vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk
@waynetetley5843 жыл бұрын
Thanks - must be a winter thing as it was on the road last summer which I was pleased to see
@caw25sha3 жыл бұрын
@@waynetetley584 A few people round my way have "summer" cars. For example one guy has a Midget in lovely condition which he only drives in the summer but he seems to be always tinkering with it all year round.
@dorbellbuster20113 жыл бұрын
After seeing an Xantia Parked in the street the other day which Just happened to be the Last remaining Xantia Td Dimension That's is left on the roads of the uk, On an M Plate 1994. One thing that stands out to be about Citroens Above all the other manufacturers of the time and that is how daring they where to be Quite Different, And that's like all these in this wonderful Brochure you have too. I can see why People Just love Old Citroens. They are cool on another level. Sadly I feel modern Citroens Seem all too Normal these days and dont have that Citroen Quirkiness Of old.
@carshistoryclassics86623 жыл бұрын
The 1124 cc engine used in the visa and 205 was also used in the 106 and saxo! It's a great revvy engine which sounds awesome.
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
Not quite. The suitcase engines were replaced by the TU engines, which were quite difference and also used in later BXs, the 106, Saxo and Xsara.
@carshistoryclassics86623 жыл бұрын
HubNut ah I see! I assumed it was a TU engine when you mentioned the 1124cc displacement. Never knew about the suitcase engine, I will have to look into this more! Thanks for the facts 🙂
@660einzylinder3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I read somewhere that during WW2, Citroen assembled trucks for the Germans, Pierre Boulanger decided to make the assembly line go as slowly as they could get away with, and ensured that the engine oil dipsticks were incorrectly marked to make the engines ran short on oil and failed prematurely.
@CitroenCX3 жыл бұрын
That was excellent.
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu3 жыл бұрын
Very informative.
@robtt9973 жыл бұрын
Oh. I do miss these car brochures . They were a car bible for buyers . Now they are a nostalgia trip for us all. I don’t think any manufacturers produce them any more ?
@caw25sha3 жыл бұрын
I think they just produce pdfs now. In the past an area of forest the size of Wales was cut down every second just to produce Citroen brochures.
@iancairns73983 жыл бұрын
There is currently a CX Gti turbo series on ebay.
@1066gaz3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a top speed test on a disused runway with all the running cars and see which gets to the nearest manufacturers claimed top speed. I bet the citreon gsa would win and get the nearest. Would make a great video.
@byronmills59523 жыл бұрын
The Lna didn't arrive in the UK until the autumn 1983 for the 1984 model year - the earliest cars came on A plates. Square lamps on the 2cv were deleted in the Uk with introduction of the disc braked Special at the start of 82.
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
No, I've definitely seen LNAs on Y plates, but that still fits 1983. Disc brake register in the 2CV Club covers 1981 to 1990.
@H4lminator3 жыл бұрын
I think the Belphegor is a very nice truck. There's even a Belphegor bus.
@davidhall77443 жыл бұрын
Ive got that one! 😂 Got it at the Scottish Motor Show at Kelvin Hall 🏴😊🚗🇫🇷
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain3 жыл бұрын
Miss the Scottish Motor Show, was good when I went to the SECC
@davidhall77443 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember that Toyota had the best quality plastic bags for carrying the weight of all the brochures I would collect there 😂 Yip, miss the car show in Glasgow ☹️
@keithbradfield78253 жыл бұрын
I had a Dyane then a GSA loved both
@frederick7773 жыл бұрын
Very interesting as usual. 👌
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, I am in the process of filming a brochure review for my channel not as exciting as the Citroen brochures through...
@stephenshippam93743 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, very informative video and made a bit of a chance, to the normal video, good to just step back of a chance and do something different.
@cornishhh3 жыл бұрын
I got the impression that in latter years Citroen stopped marketing and promoting the 2CV. Renault did the same with the R4.
@waynemartin48812 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I have a question regarding car brochures in general, years ago there was a separate colour and trim brochure for a buyer to choose from, around what year did that become part of the main car brochure ? I have a few classic brochures and there is no mention of colour choices. Thanks
@nigelroberts5573 жыл бұрын
Barrerios is the Spanish truck you're trying to remember. Was sold in UK as a Dodge
@ianpetherick43263 жыл бұрын
Up until 2007 i drove rovers then i changed to Citroën absolutely love them but sofar the best one ive driven is the one i have now the c3 piccasso 1.6 vtr plus diesel lots of grunt and i do lve the turbo whistle
@mehrzahl22193 жыл бұрын
I had that same exact one!
@timhancock66263 жыл бұрын
They did a Visa GTI didn't they. Now that was a little beast wasn't it.
@crashbox71303 жыл бұрын
The 2CV didn't need a brochure to drum up sales. It sold itself.
@alanlansdell75333 жыл бұрын
Wow, not an advocate of detailing content, but you really do need to give Twc's body work some love....🙂
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
Yes. On her clipboard! Can't leave it.
@alanlansdell75333 жыл бұрын
@@HubNut I forgot you were accountable now.
@micheltebraake79153 жыл бұрын
What car enthusiast did that in his younger years, browse car brochures and dream.
@daler25773 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this is not a Citroen but the last truck we had from Renault was an R 310 back in 1983 I think, Cab design also used by Ford.
@grayfool3 жыл бұрын
I very clearly remember reading that very brochure and trying to persuade my then fiance (never to develop into wife, long story. Don't go there) that we should get a GSA. She liked the idea until we got to the dealer and she saw the control layout. She had learnt to drive in a Fiesta (ywan) so the GSA was way to out there for her. Oh well, life goes on. Just remembered, the ex fiance married a man who drove a Marina 1800. Hmmm? Maybe there was something in that after all.
@johnpardo46953 жыл бұрын
My mum bought new a 1986 Visa
@martinevans41333 жыл бұрын
hiya ian Do you remember the 1981 F1 Dubai GP race with Citroen CX ,s , that Bruno Giacomelli won for Italy
@jfv653 жыл бұрын
The double chevron was not so much developed for strenght but rather for it's LACK of whining noise. In fact straight cut gears are stronger, that is why you find them in race- and rally cars.
@johnd88923 жыл бұрын
Asked about the brochure of the latest model to replace my three year old car. Answer was no more brochures. All now on the makers local web site. So brochures an endangered species. A little bit more incentive to buy the new model as well as doing less than 2000km in the year with Covid restrictions on travel.
@waynekerrgoodstyle3 жыл бұрын
I miss my Citroen Visa 652cc.
@MrOvershoot3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1977 W123 300D Auto it might have only had 88bhp but it was very wafty
@essexalien75043 жыл бұрын
My old VW T4 1.9td only has 69bhp but never bogeyed me lol
@glynjones25403 жыл бұрын
Lancia Lambda with monocoque construction, independent front suspension and V4 engine really was the first modern car - in 1922! Incidentally, if you pronounce LN and LNA the French way you get Helene and Helena.
@glynjones25403 жыл бұрын
@M Bacon Yes and ID = idee, idea. CX was obvious but, in English, BX could be subject to misinterpretation!
@caw25sha3 жыл бұрын
Toyota MR2
@seancooke41273 жыл бұрын
My brother had a 1985 or 1986 Citroën Visa 1.0 E with a 1000cc engine. This must have been a later option.
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the range was extended both ways - a 1-litre TU engine, and the 1.6-litre XU used in the Peugeot 205 GTi.
@macaulayholland35163 жыл бұрын
Jammmmm hubnut time
@johnmiller90243 жыл бұрын
The 2.5 diesel was also seen in the Ford Granada
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
Not this one I don't think. If I recall correctly, this was Citroen's own diesel engine.
@cambs01813 жыл бұрын
In 1982 you had access to the Rover SD Turbo. Diesel with a power output of 77bhp, I believe.
@disleyade61233 жыл бұрын
Did I hear right - you towed a caravan with a 2CV ?
@HubNut3 жыл бұрын
Yes. A very small one. She didn't like it.
@finleyplympton3 жыл бұрын
VSA - visa cross with GSa would look nice
@johnwinters42013 жыл бұрын
I recently had a puncture in a modern Ford Transit mini-bus. Front nearside wheel completely flat and the only clue for the driver was a slight increase in noise. Even once I knew it was flat I couldn't detect anything through the feel of the steering. Insulating the driver from the feel of the steering can go too far.