1982 Falklands War: Argentine Hercules Shot Down By British Sea Harrier | DCS Reenactment

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[@comraderoman4299]

Who would win in an Su-25 vs A-10 dogfight? What about missiles? I'm quite curious about this (also, say hello to Lt. Pickles for me!)

[@grimreapers]

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[@nixonroger9612]

A tip: you can watch series on kaldrostream. Been using it for watching lots of of movies recently.

[@lennoxtravis9487]

@Nixon Roger yea, been watching on kaldrostream for since november myself :D

[@bigdmac33]

Although it very much depends on the skill and experience of the pilot, without doubt the A-10 - the Su-25 would get shredded with the avenger.

[@barracuda6900]

The real-life wingman's name was Lt. (RN) Steve Thomas. From what I remember from reading Sharkey Ward's book, he only realised the radar blip was a Hercules until he made visual contact (there was a lot of cloud).

[@dk5468]

Have a read of 'Harrier 809, the untold story of the Falklands War' by Roland White. Cracking read!

[@barracuda6900]

@@dk5468 it's on my list!

[@AdamWalkLikeSuicide]

You know you're gonna have to do this all over again when we get the actual Falklands and actual British Harriers. Ooooooo I'm excited, like a movie trailer.

[@OVERSPEED]

Rubén Héctor Martel, Carlos Eduardo Krause, Hugo César Meisner, Miguel Ángel Cardone y Carlos Domingo Cantezano, Julio Jesús Lastra y Manuel Alberto Albelos. RIP Those are the names of the people who actually DIED on that war incident. This is your channel and you can do whatever you want, including this "reenactemnts" but how about a little of respect when doing it? You can do better than this... Those "hahahas" at the end are really annoying. Keep in mind that DCS has a really big argentinian community and this kind of things are still something to be take with extreme care. If you want to recreate events like this you should watch other youtube channels like : "The flight channel". He always pay respects to all the people who died. Regards...

[@frankfrank1480]

Don't worry about! - and don't expect respect or empathy from these people!! Be sure you got the everlasting Respect for those Heroic and noble men of "FUERZA AERA y ARMADA de Argentina" of '82,exeptless by every German Soldier in past, current and future. For my self at Example I know as well it was just a hour ago, - where I was and what I did, - when first Information came of successful counterstrike of those Super Etendards from the Armada to the SHEFFIELD, - in the casino of the Airborne Academy in Altenstadt/Bavaria - as a young Ensign.. and together with my comrades shout out a triple Hurra,.. and a Bottle "Muet Chadon" to those brave Gouchos! 😎

[@Donpande]

You are absolutely right. This is not the first time I noticed the lack of respect in this "reenactments". DCS is a game, war is not. Respect the people that died on both sides.

[@tomriley5790]

It was requested by an argenitian on the last video, lots of people die in war, it's a huge waste, shame it had to be fought.

[@matiasposada992]

Gracias over por tus palabras y si, tienes razón. Hay que tener mas cuidado cuando se trata de recrear eventos como estos.., espero algunas palabras de él para ver que tiene para decir porque lo sigo desde hace mucho tiempo y la verdad que me sorprendió bastante, "hahas" y desmerecer la guerra de las malvinas porq? Porq no fue una super guerra de 20 naciones y con 10 millones de muertos?? Por favor un poco seriedad.

[@alejoquiroga9369]

Muchas gracias Ragnos.

[@AXL4LIFE229]

Super Cap... To Space, And Beyond... :) Thanks For The Vid Mate..

[@notaveragecr6041]

Can you take a look at the similarities and differences between the Hornet and Super Hornet?

[@grimreapers]

In DCS or IRL?

[@fubar8560]

I like how the cannon rounds drew a smiley face at the end.

[@bigdmac33]

I listened to the first-hand account of this incident, from one of the SHar pilots. I had mixed feelings about the use of the cannon after the missile strike. There was no way that the Herc could survive an AIM-9L hit on the wing and indeed, the wing separated soon after sealing its fate. I wondered whether the cannon was literally overkill.

[@rafaelalodio5116]

Argentinians: We are a cargo plan with unarmed personnel, allow us to surrender. British: Harrier goes brrrr

[@ayeidoucareau5014]

War is horrible. I wonder if the Harrier pilot shot down the transporter for military reasons or if it could have been spared without negative effect for the British war efforts. Interesting read: Excursion to hell by Vince Bramley.

[@alastairchurch4038]

@@ayeidoucareau5014 War certainly is hell, but the Argentines must’ve know what they were sending their pilots into. The British had publicly declared a “Total Exclusion Zone” around the islands (basically a blockade) and publicly warned that anything inside that zone would be attacked without warning. They had even warned that Argentine forces outside the zone might be attacked if they posed a threat. A large transport like the Hercules could’ve been carrying a lot of ammunition, heavy weapons or even reinforcements to the Argentine troops on the islands. Naturally the British commanders would not want that getting through to be used against their troops on the ground. Though just like the Argentine attacks on the British fleet, there’s absolutely no doubting the courage of the Argentine pilots knowingly flying into that.

[@brunoeuge1]

British: We are the best of the NATO, nothing can't sink our ships Argentinians: Exocet goes boom

@@ayeidoucareau5014 In his Book "Sea Harrier over the Falklands" "Sharky" Ward goes into a bit more detail on this incident. He says they were on CAP for some time before this contact poped up and didnt have much fuel left (Their time on station was quiete short anyways because of the long transit to and from the carrier group), which is why they immediatly had tp attack the C130. If he had more fuel, he would have gone alongside and had tried to persuade them to abandon "ship" and not shoot them down outride. Their is a video somewhere on youtube with an Interview of him some time ago where he also talks to the son of one of the Pilots of the C130. Unfortunatly the C130 wehre prime targets, because they where the only lifeline of the Argentinian forces on the Falklands. The sea route had effectively been closed by the nuclear attack submarines of the british. So everything had to be flown in. Including for example the land based Exocet launcher which was used to hit HMS Glamorgen from near Stanley.

[@No1sonuk]

@@brunoeuge1 No one ever said nothing can sink our ships. On the other hand, unlike the Argentine navy, the rest of the RN didn't run home after one was sunk...

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

I have always been fond of the UK Sea Harriers. A Falklands map and campaign would be a nice addition to DCS.

[@maotseovich1347]

Map with extensive period assets are WIP ETA not this year, Baltic Dragon is planning a campaign that will recreate the whole war in detail to release with the map, a Sea Harrier FRS1 is planned by RAZBAM and a little work has been done but it currently isn't any kind of priority for them. Not the most recent interview about the map, but it comes with lots of pictures and video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXbYeGx-n9aWrrc

[@GapeGang]

It's released now

[@benwelch4076]

Very cool, big fan of the historical reenactments.

[@simonjones2392]

Sharky Ward was on CAP off West Falklands on way back to Invincible the c130 was a 300ft above sea level when it's was reported by British Ship . This was the Falklands War , and was last kill by 801 sqn

[@ByronLina]

It is a war if most people say it’s a war. You don’t need a formal declaration of war to have an war.

[@maotseovich1347]

Unless it's the Malayan Emergency, in which case it is most definitely not a war because if it was a war, the insurance companies would have had an excuse not to pay out.

[@gh8447]

1:18 As I understand it, it was a 'territorial dispute' which means the UK couldn't strike on Argentine soil, but anything the Argies sent out were fair game.

[@No1sonuk]

There WAS an SAS mission that penetrated into Argentinian soil, but it was aborted.

[@yorkshire_tea_innit8097]

@@No1sonuk Secret missions seem to have different rules. Afterall, did Russia not declare war on Britain when they deployed chemical weapons in order to kill Sergei Skripal.

[@HO-bndk]

Now "reenact" the Harrier strikes at Goose Green. First pass - failed to spot the target. Second pass- dropped ordnance but missed by hundreds of yards. Third pass - got shot down by an Argie Oerlikon.

[@grimreapers]

Cool

[@Orion-ob9ny]

What missiles can I use to intercept other missiles coming at me? what's the best for that?

[@MeatVision]

Phoenix i think

[@grimreapers]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oae2daVtoaehqJI

[@APV878]

Hmmm. Makes me think of that SuperVGA Harrier / Harrier Assault from 1992 where you had to routinely shoot down re-supply C-130's. Although AIM-9's in the game would not lock onto the Herc, so had to use rockets or gun. It just seems so cruel >sniffle as trigger is squeezed

[@Xeemix]

3:35 for a second, I thought you were flying parallel with the missile hahaha

[@spotterstew]

Love the way RC doesn't use the ramp on take off 😂

[@giustypapety7990]

What necessary use the cannon ?

[@thetmd3063]

If you read Sharkie Wards book he writes about downing a Herc, I think it’s this one , it has a little more detail

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@fernandorosati9450]

Great Tahnks!

[@greenalleader7685]

Very interesting even sea harrier and C-130s are my favorite Aircrafts

[@naimishambasana7494]

Fun fact : you can use sidewinder to destroy sidewinder. Just launch second sidewinder locking first sidewinder.

[@grimreapers]

Yeh did that by accident the other day :)

[@kevinstocker4187]

It wasn’t HMS Minerva’s radar that picked it up originally, it was EW, the information was then passed to the ops room, it was then detected on Redcar and passed to Cap. The only reason I know this is correct, I picked up the Ci30 and passed it to my EWD.

[@richardvernon317]

The C-130 wasn't doing a supply mission, it was doing an Maritime Radar Recce mission using its nose radar. that's why the ESM picked it up. I was involved with an intercept down there in 1988 where the ESM operator on a Type 21 thought he picked up a C-130 which correlated with a something orbiting at 2000 feet. The Radar on West Falkland could also see something at around 2000ft and the Phantoms and tanker from MPA were scrambled. The Phantom also got a pick up on his radar that looked like an airborne target, until he over flew it and found it was a group of polish fishing trawlers!!! Damm Anaprop!!!

[@kevinstocker4187]

@@richardvernon317 Ty Richard.

[@charlesbukowski9836]

Cap I have the X56 throttle and the Wing Wing Libra super stick.. what file in the Wing Wing folder that you post is JUST the stick? there are like 5 files in each module folder.. thanks

[@grimreapers]

Will say in here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/on_QamqaoLlgibc

[@charlesbukowski9836]

@@grimreapers ok thanks!

[@Sebaloprete]

we can hear the commander meaowing at the cap for his seat posture in the cockpit.

[@harriergr7728]

Why are you flying AV-8B’s (USMC markings) and not RN SHAR’s?

[@No1sonuk]

IIRC, Sea Harriers aren't in DCS yet.

[@AirspotterUK]

TC-69 is still in service with Argentina.

[@sam_uelson]

Why would you send a herc out on a recon flight?

[@faviou2]

Hello good Night. Can i ask you if i can take a part of your video for my documental channel of Malvinas? Thanks.

[@grimreapers]

Sure thing :)

[@faviou2]

@@grimreapers thanks my friend. Have a great day. Thanks for the video. Amazing job. Greatings and good fligth

[@braianisidroguemez8004]

Hagan un video del primer Hercules artillado que un dio un barco EE.UU. Saludos desde el Sur !!

[@lerosanz1446]

This recreation is different from what I had read. I knew that the Hercules plane received a missile hit (from behind) between the two left wing engines and caused a fire. The C-130 was still flying, so Ward moved closer and fired his cannons at it. Then the Hercules fell into the water in a spiral to the left and crashed into the sea. Three Argentine officers and four non-commissioned officers lost their lives. RIP all brave men who fought on both sides on this war.

[@shubham5144]

There was a cat somewhere in the harrier.

[@anonymous17367]

I think it was Pickles, Cap's cat

[@peterstubbs5121]

It`s not "Haitch", it`s "Aitch" you prawn.

[@rodrigonunez9451]

I think that TC-69 still in service and modernized.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@johnbasiglone1219]

It was an E model C-130, not an H model. I could not see the Argentinians using H models in 1982. Shit we were still flying alot of E models in the USAF. I was flying E models through the early 1990s And in 1985/86, most, if not all of the training squadrons I flew with at Little Rock AFB(Herky U) were E models. Back then, the South American countries were buying surplus U.S. and European military aircraft. The H model was still too new to have been released as a surplus sale. I am surprised it was even an E model.

[@richardvernon317]

Wrong guess. At the start of the war, they had two C-130E's, 5 C-130H's and 2 KC-130H's

[@georgeviner3138]

ah sharkey wards last kill of the falklands war

[@Pablo668]

I have DCS, and the Sea Harrier or AV8 whatever, I can't figure out how to activate the weapons....

[@Venom152]

There’s an extensive training mission section for the av8b within dcs. Just click training and learn most aspects of the harrier.

[@tomriley5790]

Or look at Caps training videos on the AV-8B

[@gordonstewardson7683]

RIP Commander Ward.

[@bigdmac33]

Oh, and by the way, although there was a US Marine aviator flying one of the Harriers from Hermes, he wasn't permitted to do actual operational flying. I was reminded of this when I saw the US Marine AV-8B Harrier IIs taking off from Hermes. I'm pretty sure, though, they were Royal Navy Sea Harriers!😉

[@denisthornton2489]

The USMC exchange duty officer (a friend of mine) was forced to remain behind at RNAS Yeovilton

[@tomriley5790]

So it was a state of war, international humanitarian law applied - you don't have to declare war to have a state of war. Saw the request for this on a previous video which I thought was a bit wierd as it's not really that interesting - I suspect someone was setting CAP up for trouble. For the record a naval military patrol plane is a perfectly legitimate military target.

[@grahambuckerfield4640]

Even more so when they had been using C-130’s in a desperate attempt to disrupt British supply lines by rolling bombs out of the rear ramp at merchant ships, one attempt saw a bomb hit but bounce off a UK chartered tanker, beyond the Total Exclusion Zone, the C-130’s being the only aircraft with the range.

[@WilliamBrothers]

Sharkey Ward, the Sea Harrier pilot, had a 2011 interview with Ezequiel Martel the son of the C-130 Hercules pilot

[@aragracian]

Nigel ward was dismissed from flying the moment he land on the carrier. The hercules was already shot down and was not combative so the straffing was innecesary and consider by the royal navy as a war crime

[@Smokeyr67]

@@aragracian that’s complete and utter bullshit! No such thing happened, he went on to serve a further 7 years in the RN and in fact was awarded the Air For e Cross 10 days after shooting down the Argentinian military C-130, and later that year was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for his actions in the Sourh Atlantic.

[@SPiderman-rh2zk]

@@aragracian What about the Liberian tanker Hercules that was bombed the shit out of? Was that being combative?

[@aragracian]

@@SPiderman-rh2zk that was part of the british war effort, it was the resupply ship for rge task force, just like the atlantic conveyor. Even the C130 that bombed it calles the tanker in all frequencies to tell them to leave the area. The trial was won by the Argentine Air Force in a US court of law

[@SPiderman-rh2zk]

@@aragracian Where do you come up with this shit? Hercules was operated by Carriers Inc. and chartered by Amerada Hess Shipping Corp. to carry oil from Alaska around the southern tip of South America to a refinery in the U.S. Virgin Islands. United Carriers and Amerada Hess were both Liberian corporations. The Hercules was attacked despite a U.S. alert to Great Britain and Argentina that it was among neutral vessels traveling in the South Atlantic. It was 500 miles from the Islands. I suppose next you're going to tell me that the Belgrano was a perfectly innocent cruiser not conducting a pincer move on the task force?

[@nicohoyes4130]

En la vida real el hercules volaba a 30ft

[@user-wn5it1kz2l]

Hi

[@silversurfer66_]

never knew the brits had a russian aircraft cearrier

[@grimreapers]

eek

[@firebladenut]

It wasnt a war as neither side officially 'declared war' they just started fighting. You need a declaration for a war!

[@Redemptorchapter]

Tudor highlights

[@user-wn5it1kz2l]

Do you have any good mods?

[@grimreapers]

kzbin.info/aero/PL3kOAM2N1YJcbzwU5FCo0DRmCdF3owO1o

[@pontiacGXPfan]

Nigel "Sharky" Ward

[@btaylo24]

Was that a cat?

[@user-wn5it1kz2l]

I want link mod JAS 39 GRIPEN Do you have it?

[@grimreapers]

Not released.

[@lonegroover]

Interesting that Ward makes some edits to his book in later editions - published after he met the son of one of the crew he shot down - to make his reaction to the encounter sound a little less callous.

[@richardvernon317]

Ward said in the original edition that had he had a chance he would have given them chance to bale out or ditch. When the event actually happened, he was so low on fuel that he had to kill the C-130 in the shortest time possible.

[@carrickrichards2457]

War (or 'limited armed conflict' if you prefer) is brutal. Callous is not the same and is an odd choice of word. Logistics and reconnaissance are legitimate targets. Remember who started that war. To paraphrase FDR: In 1981, a year which will live in infamy, the United Kingdom was attacked, without warning, by the armed forces of the Argentine Junta.

[@ghostviggen]

I think the Falkslands war is very much a war. Since you have soldiers shooting at each other, subs sinking ships and aircraft bombing troops.

[@llanero9177]

You can shoot a sidewinder to an unarmed C-130. It´s a war and it´s a totally legit war target. But knocking it down with cannon rounds when the Hercules is already badly damaged, preventing the crew the possibility of, at least, trying to save their lives with a splashdown or trying to reach the shore, is pretty close to a war crime. Like shooting against a parachute. That "Sharkey" Ward guy is not a gentleman nor a hero.

[@bonidle726]

“Sharkey” Ward did his job and did it well. War is a nasty business and the business of the Harrier in engaging an enemy supply aircraft was to stop Argentinian troops being resupplied, which it did. If you allow it reach the shore you have failed in your mission and its supplies would be recovered and enable enemy troops to continue killing your troops. That’s the whole point of engaging it. It’s not a game and there are no innocent parties involved. The comparison between shooting people in parachutes is ludicrous. So no, it’s not a war crime, it’s war, it’s highly unpleasant, which is what makes war a thing to be avoided.

[@llanero9177]

​@@bonidle726 Ward did his job when he shot the sidewinder to the C-130 destroying at least one of the engines and damaging the structure of the wing. The war was over for that aircraft, even if for some miracle could have landed somewhere. When he shot the rounds of cannon to the wounded aircraft, he was just killing people that weren't a menace for him or others, and were trying to save their own lives. It's war? Yes. But that kind of behavior is the difference between being despised by Argentinian pilots, like happens with that Ward guy, or being respected by the Argentinian pilots, like other Harrier pilots like Dave Morgan, for example, are. If you know Spanish, look for the videos in YT of Pablo "Cruz" Carballo, por example, talking about that "Sharkey" guy.

[@passantNL]

You are wrong. If that aircraft is carrying valuable supplies to enemy troops, or could be used to do that in the immediate future, then it is a legitimate target no matter how badly damaged it is. BTW, gentlemen and heroes don't win wars. You win wars by doing unpleasant things to other people.

[@mikeedwards350]

Worth noting that "shooting against a parachute" isn't necessarily a war crime. If an enemy ejects over your own territory, they are technically a PoW but over their own territory, they're still a combatant and fair game by international law. That pilot might be back in a plane bombing you tomorrow.

[@bonidle726]

I get the impression that your objections are actually based upon the fact that your sympathies lie with Argentina with regards to this conflict. As you may have guessed I am British and I was actually serving in HM Forces at the time of this unpleasantness. Thankfully I did not have to actively partake. So my sympathies were with a sovereign British population illegally invaded and subjugated by a brutal fascist dictatorship who seriously misjudged the response they thought they would get. There are no innocent parties flying enemy military aircraft in a war zone, on either side. You know what the risks and consequences are. The purpose of engaging an enemy aircraft is to destroy it therefore making it unable to complete its task then or in the future, not to just give it a good scare. If you think otherwise then you don’t understand war. If it had been an RAF C-130, or indeed Avro Vulcan, intercepted by an Argentinian fighter the result would have been the same. If you don’t to accept combat losses then that’s another good reason not to go to war.

[@kauz5598]

Total agree with Overspeed. DCS is just a game, but war isn't a game at all. In case that you choose to recreate an historical event, specially a recent one, you should be much more respectful with people who died and their families, specially when they likely still live. No matter if they were from Buenos Aires or London. That was a recent event, people that died there had family who could see your video. What would you feel if you were the orphan of one of those men and you heard those "hahahas" at the end? I've followed you videos for years, but this one didn't like me at all. Of course is your channel, and you can publish whatever you want, but you can do it much better. Please take a few time to think about it. I think you could have recreated that event in a much more respectful way. I'm not Argentinian, but i think you have not to be Argentinian to feel a few empathy and respect for those soldiers, as i also feel it for british ones. Thankyou @Overspeed to take your time to collect the names of those people: Rubén Héctor Martel, Carlos Eduardo Krause, Hugo César Meisner, Miguel Ángel Cardone , Carlos Domingo Cantezano, Julio Jesús Lastra and Manuel Alberto Albelos. RIP

[@kauz5598]

@OneBear sorry. English is not my native language. I meant, that most of people involved at the conflict are still alive, like most of english and argentinian people who lived when the conflict happened.

[@LeonXD111]

in malvinas war the english navy never founded the hercules

[@garwhittaker3743]

They did.

[@LeonXD111]

@@garwhittaker3743 nop im argentinian, my grandparents are a-4 pilots, they never found the chancha

[@garwhittaker3743]

@@LeonXD111 Sharky ward shot one down .

[@LeonXD111]

@@garwhittaker3743 nop, Argentina has only had one hercules that in fact is still in service, at the time it was not detected even by the Malvinas radar

[@garwhittaker3743]

@@LeonXD111 What so this video is wrong ?

[@MeatVision]

Not an honorable act to remember, even at war. Good video, tho

[@gh8447]

No, there was nothing honourable about it per se, but are you suggesting it was dishonourable? I was an enemy asset, and on reconnaissance - of course you'd shoot it down!

[@SPiderman-rh2zk]

To be honest mate, strapping bombs to these 'harmless' C-130s and bombing an innocent Liberian tanker going about its business isn't really honourable either, but they did it...

[@MrRama2295]

@@SPiderman-rh2zk what it was not honorable was straffing the C-130 while it was going down on flames...., give the people on it a chance, the asset was already destroyed

[@SPiderman-rh2zk]

@@MrRama2295 This is a country that used to kidnap people, drug them, and throw them out of planes... Honour I think doesn't have as much a place in war as it did hundreds of years ago. Weapons and technology remove the human factor. It's a sad truth, but a truth all the same.

[@MrRama2295]

@@SPiderman-rh2zk i dont see the correlation between the acts of a dictatorship , and the action of Uk pilots

[@johnreekie992]

So bolox then

[@juanpablovega558]

Q.E.P.D todos los hombres que murieron por Malvinas. Dios los tenga en Paz.

[@noodles169]

Falklands

[@Bog2901]

first

[@bonidle726]

Curious at some of the outrage on here? I don’t see these protests when we see Middle Eastern scenarios, or the Gulf war(s), or numerous other conflicts both long ago and far more recent, being recreated. Let’s be realistic and honest: DCS a combat flight simulator in which we simulate hideous acts of violence constantly, but that’s the point. To deny that is to be rather hypocritical. If you are “offended” by that fact then I would suggest a simulator such as MSFS of X-Plane (both excellent in their own right) would be more appropriate to your sensitivities.

[@llanero9177]

Maybe you would see protests if that kind of videos were seen by middle eastern people. And nobody is complaining about recreating air battles, but about recreating air battles in a disrespectful way. You would have the same kind of reaction if you recreate with giggles a real plane accident in MSFS or X-Planes. But there a YT channels that recreate terrible real life accidents with respect and accuracy, and nobody complains.

[@sydmoir]

so the brave british pilots shot down an unarmed plane killing all on board.

[@arlohudson8207]

They were at war.

[@spdoosh]

Yip, it was a war/conflict....thats what you do. On a tactical level you deny the enemy the ability to fight. Thats how wars/conflicts are generally conducted. People die

[@TechGamer45]

The Argentine's also shot down RN/RAF rescue helicopters

[@tomriley5790]

Its an unarmed naval reconaissance plane - looking for RN ships and giving targeting information to the strike aircraft - completely legitimate target. Towards the end they tried using the C130s as bombers too dropping bombs out the back - one hit one of the RFA tankers (bounced off)

[@spdoosh]

It never ceases to amaze and disappoint me that these keyboard warriors can come up with such uninformed statements when the power of the Internet is right there at their fingertips. Just do a little research on the subject and you wont come out with inane crap like that

[@Foxtrop13]

translation: the C130, had both engines down, a sidewinder in the cargo, and yet the pilot decided to execute the crew with the 30mm

[@notaveragecr6041]

But the harrier has a 25mm...

[@Foxtrop13]

@@notaveragecr6041 british harriers used Aden 30mm canons

[@Reactordrone]

Almost like there was a war on.

[@Foxtrop13]

@@Reactordrone an unnecesary death, that c130 was going no where but to the water

[@MrWhiteladder61]

During the war the Argentines used c130 to resupply the islands, they weren't carrying toilet paper, every bomb and bullet delivered was aimed at a British serviceman. It flew in extra radars at one point to target the Harriers. Absolutely the C130 irrespective of its current mission was a legitimate target. If you kick a hornets nest expect to get stung, a lesson Argentinian learnt in 1982.

[@shithead8094]

Absolutely murder

[@bonidle726]

If it’s resupplying/aiding enemy troops to prosecute combat operations it’s an absolutely legitimate target. It’s called war.

[@passantNL]

Are you a pacifist? Or have you just not realised before that war is murder, often on a grand scale.

[@lohrtom]

Military conflict + military aircraft = legitimate target.

[@AA-xo9uw]

@@passantNL There's a difference between killing combatants and murder.

[@AA-xo9uw]

Bravo Sierra

[@fredflintstone7840]

That’s easy to fight a cargo plane, fight a fighter and then we talk

[@grimreapers]

fair comment

[@badgerservices9665]

War, conflict.. these are semantics. 904 people lost their lives, 1965 people injured. UK lost 10 fixed-wing aircraft, 25 helicopters and 4 navy vessels. Argentina lost 11 ships and 132 aircraft. To put it into some perspective, years later, USA lost 3 buildings, 4 aircraft and went on a global 'war' on terror, invading multiple countries that is still ongoing and noone doubts that wasn't/isn't a war, even though they probably did it to themselves ✈️🙄😑🤡😷

[@AA-xo9uw]

Very telling that you list the aggregate of those killed and injured in the Falklands but failed to do that with regard to the 11 September 2001 attack on the United States - 2977 killed and thousands more wounded - pogue.