1983 Islington Squatter Punk Documentary

[@howardgippsfromsydne]

I actually shot this in 1985..see 1985 London Punk Entrepreneurs for the restored version. We shot it on Kodak 7250 stock in one afternoon. Good old reversal film, very forgiving, but I had to recolour it after transfer to make it look more real. It's a bit too faded and yellow in the version here. The voiceover I did is not meant to insult punks, but is meant to reflect the attitude of the English establishment at that time. A piss-take of the critics, but not of the punks, but many people cant see that. Howard Gipps 2016

[@Penguinator-rj4jm]

Nostalgia doesn't even come close... Unbelievable to see these guys on film and hear their voices again. I knew most of them (that's Scott, by the way, not Cyril, and I think he's really acting up for the camera!) and they were some of the nicest, most accepting and easy-going people I've ever met. And FUN! So good to hear some of them are doing OK. I was just a 'weekender' but loved these people. 1985 sounds right because I didn't think Alex was around in 1984. Great to see Animal again, what a lovely, lovely bloke. Miss them like crazy. X

[@deafanddestructiononthepis3149]

I picked up on it. love the vid cheers

[@jordangregory8514]

Hey Howard, would love to get in touch about the doc, please send me a message back and we can talk over email!!! Thanks

[@bomitalia3588]

The old days

[@alien1066]

Its wasnt 1985 more like 1983 i was there and i wasnt in london 1985 im alien in it a few times cool film

[@jjscallywag1]

1:14 SHOOT THE MESSENGER, STRING 'EM UP

[@howardgippsfromsydne]

A few of the stars of this film have contacted me since to tell me of their lives since it was shot. Most are extremely nostalgic about their time as punks, but not one is still living that lifestyle. Howard Gipps, Sydney 2016

[@isaiahstephenson9775]

@@LunaRose1312 chill

[@philpatton5652]

I lived there iv grown up now

[@philpatton5652]

I lived in that squat but was out the day u shot it gutted would luv 2 hear from sum of my old mates

[@philpatton5652]

I lived in that house at that time but was out who got in contact . Anne maria used 2 b ny girlfriend . We moved 2 Brixton after that squat great times

[@philpatton5652]

Great film I lived there but was out that day ( gutted ), great film with good friends but who told u alex was the leader alex he was a bellend bully not my leader anyway

[@customtoggle7938]

Punks are rough around the edges but also the most friendly and chill people you could ever meet

[@izzy818]

without a doubt; my parents we punks and are the most accepting and chill people. gave me loads of freedom when i was younger so i didn’t have to rebel and get myself into trouble

[@Grimster732]

Some of them are yeah, I was a punk in Jersey but when my friends went to NYC the crusty punks were the worst. They were assholes if you didn't have money for beer or drugs. They used to call people with jobs housies

[@bathory3434]

so fucking true

[@youthfulcurmudgeon3627]

Until you hold different political and social beliefs than they do.

[@domtekos7761]

@@youthfulcurmudgeon3627 actual punks who value the state of personal autonomy and equality/fairness in society will be tolerant of other political leanings and views or beliefs so long as it does NOT prevent personal autonomy and isn't unjust and harmful to others.

[@katcorridon3258]

I am in this Visio and it brings back a lot of memories ( some good some bad!). I was very young (15) and was completely lost in life. Thank god for punk and the squats though as without them I would have had no outlet for my anger and no safe place to go. :-)

[@muslim5617]

REALLY??! TELL ME ON WHAT SEC. ARE YOU IN THIS VID? DESCRIBE YOURSELF

[@dianalee84]

Do you know my husband Sean? He was in Eat Shit

[@Penguinator-rj4jm]

I was 16 in '85 and a regular on King's Road - maybe we knew each other X

[@JohnSmith-eq2tf]

That's ausome. Is it more strict in the uk now as far as squatting goes? I think skin heads dont tolerate fashion swazticas now right?

[@lorihuntsinger9712]

@Eric Sirias i do these things and im 29 hahaha but idk what people think

[@IF013]

anyone here from Mura Masa (Doorman)?

[@evy5322]

yes that me

[@potatochip7896]

Yh

[@jusescrust4285]

Bold

[@georgehiggins8538]

*Slowthai

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

oh fuck off all these fucking cunts have nothing to do with our cultures and are literally raiding everything fuck off

[@c.a.greene8395]

the late 70's early 80's was a good time to be young. as a runaway, i squatted at the bloor st theatre, the addiction research centre on queen st, ( we even took the plaque to our party room) best part was the place had tons of beds! in sault st marie you could cross the boarder without ID on any weds night by saying you were going to the backdoor bar in sault usa, in van we had an entire warehouse...canada was my home, north america my backyard, we knew real freedom, miss those days

[@uglehb0b]

punk is a mindset. it's how you view things and how you feel. every true punk knows that, and every true punk band represents that in their tracks. anyone who doesn't get told what to do, respects good people, and lives how they want to is punk. all in the mind. and because of that, punk can never die.

[@Catthepunk]

​@ch-yq5ynthat sounds more like living the "dream" of the avarage person, keeping up the status quo. Fuck that.

[@susanapavavalero4338]

​@ch-yq5yn feel you. Completly agree

[@OctoberDegradation]

No glue sniffing upstairs

[@Lock484]

They have principles! 😤 😇😂😂

[@supermolerrr2689]

I knew this fellow who would go into the subway station bathrooms, in a city I used to stomp around in many moons ago, who would sniff popper crap in the bathroom stalls downstairs. He was a weird airhead and liked to wear this grey DRI shirt every freakin' day of the week and cut his red curly hair into a mohawk regularly. He would squeegee cars on the roads nearby and would bump into everybody like a dingus on crack or something. Lol I heard a story once where he kept asking for this girl's number and she ran telling him he was a smelly hobo or something. 😂

[@doublehappiness9889]

I wonder why that was?

[@tendies9248]

You couldn't play an instrument I bet

[@Sameoldfitup]

“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams..

[@webelieveinfairies]

2:22 He's playing Alternative Ulster by The Stiff Little Fingers! Ah!!

[@theo1856]

I was trying to find the song he was playing, and i listen to that song all the time, i didn't even recognise it. Honestly he doesn't play it very well i think he's playing it on the wrong string. But anyway I can see the resemblance and it does sounds pretty good lol good on you for spotting it.

[@matthewkendall8592]

Who else is here from Slowthai?

[@lozza2727]

RicheyClear spent all my money you ain’t getting no more

[@sandburgmagnusson1065]

Anyone know where the soundbite from the end of Toaster came from?

[@atmo1839]

i listened to slowthai and remembered this video

[@gasparsalguero6242]

Who the fuck is Slowthai?

[@mrdrumandbass1]

@@gasparsalguero6242 educate yourself

[@asubjectiveopinion]

When he said "apprentice punk" I nearly pissed myself.

[@philpatton5652]

Alex was a bellend was 1 of those people that when he was on his own was cool with other people around a bully nee him well he s a rat

[@philpatton5652]

So did I dont no who that was alex was a bellend just tall I he didnt control me

[@zampieritto]

Sometimes the English are like that

[@amrfwws]

@@philpatton5652 yo wtf

[@philpatton5652]

@@amrfwws well hello is this who I think it is ?

[@humachine5226]

The squatter punks are the only ones that actually are pioneers in the scene. Most of them come from a broken home, are truly homeless, and don't care if they live or die. It's an adventure at the beginning, but most were destined for tragedy. Most of the ones I grew up with are no longer around, some are completely unrecognizable due to all the drug abuse.

[@formzino]

By the time mohawks and studded jackets came in, punks were dressing like normal people

[@borntoclimb7116]

Not a big different between the million persons who died because alcohol poisoning

[@yaelfeder9042]

A lot of them probably had personality disorders from their trauma. Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day squatted and described it as all these people with personality disorders coming together. As someone with borderline personality disorder, I love punk music because it helps me put words to my feelings❤

[@humachine5226]

@@yaelfeder9042 Dang I forgot about this.. Cool. Well, Billie Joe isn't really a triumphant example realistically, he had alot of resources at his disposal specially in his upbringings. Great musician though. My loved forgotten companions (another one just recently passed in Nov 2021) have had drug addiction issues, most of them were from broken one parent homes. I've been blessed in that area. Punk music was the intervention I solely stumbled across, I'll love it always!

[@yaelfeder9042]

@@humachine5226 Aw thank you for your kind words! I’m just 25 but I am fascinated by punk because I never had other people like me to connect to as a teenager. While I wish had that connection y’all had, I am still grateful for where I am now. I am sorry for your loss. I am studying public health now so that people like us with complex childhood trauma can get access to the right resources needed to live a long life. I am going to quote Billie Joe again “We’re a product of war and we’ve been victimized.”

[@denxylboart4403]

That's was very moving to watch and Alex what a guy the leader of his pack its plain to see they all looked up to him top bloke I hope he's still about and rocking if anyone who was in that video is reading you've shined a light and I hope you have been keeping it bright

[@LannyC]

When the narrator said "with names like Bumbox, scumbag and animal" i nearly choked on my cup of tea. 😂

[@hermanhawtrey8578]

No you didn’t.

[@TommyNoob1982]

Lmao

[@satoriblue1349]

@@hermanhawtrey8578 relax herman

[@taxamo]

ha ha ha this is stil one of the most legendary vids on youtube. I actually ended up in an identical squat this year, 27 years on. Nothing changes.

[@christopherherrera4983]

I wonder what happened to many of these individuals in this documentary?

[@Nantosuelta]

six feet under

[@jvttblvck103]

@@Nantosuelta It was only 1983 a lot of them are probably still alive although most of them should be in their 60s

[@philpatton5652]

Me 2 I spent many years with that lot I was out the day of the filming we all moved 2 brixton after that good times I was 17 then

[@philpatton5652]

I'm still alive 53 now I lived there but was out that day

[@philpatton5652]

I'm here

[@amberb617]

this is good it made me giggle because it captured what punk really was it's not just music, it's a lifestyle.

[@seanglennon4012]

Being straight edge never felt so appealing

[@Misikuta]

@65theDoors the song played by the punk on the bass guitar is Chaos UK - "victimised", at 0:29 the punk is singing "never understood" by the Mob, and the song that starts at 1:37 is Doug Murlay " I'm a punk" ,

[@vukasin369]

BRO I LOVE YOU FOR DISCOVERING 1:37

[@THEMEVENTS]

I love how sarcastic the narrator is

[@europainvicta3907]

i was around in those days. Most of Angel, Kings X, Islington was one big squat. It’s all unaffordable now. Which is a good thing as that part of London was rough. But great times for teenagers.

[@wmorris189]

bullshit mate. Are you Australian like the patronising ahole who made this?

[@Szaam]

TV presenters and narrators were incredibly smug and condescending in the 80s.

[@whitedwarf13]

hard not to be when you're around this bunch

[@mrdojob]

Of course they're smug. These squatters have a far lower worth to society than the journalists interviewing and filming them. The people making this video are just far better people in general in all respects of life.

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

@@mrdojob uh duh duh duh

[@mrdojob]

@a weed The path they follow in life is to exploit others. It''s a shit path and one of the home owners should have gone around and given them the beating their fathers forgot to give them as a child. Better late than never.

[@BLUEbalerbals]

Didn't see any punx in Islington last summer when I was there... even though it was the middle of the night. All the punx are in Camden.

[@Unheardandoutthere]

There's not been punks in camden for about 30 years. They're all plastic. Islington's full of champagne socialists.

[@BLUEbalerbals]

Next time I'll look harder.. :P

[@saborfrancias]

BLUEbalerbals London is dead honey. There's no punks in London. But yes, there is one venue in Camden, the only one in London, you have to look.

[@antonia-antmarie4243]

this is 83 babe.....times change image wise, but the Punk Spirit Lives On in Anarchy.

[@jonowev]

I have nothing against punk fashion or music, but you're wrong... punk is not really political. It merely adopted anarchy as an ideology. Anarchists are usually respectable, well-rounded and intelligent people who look after themselves - unlike these twits!

[@gabel13]

"who will contract an infectious disease, the rat or the punks"OOOOOOOOOOO BURRRRNNNNNN

[@henryortiz595]

I like how old the upload is

[@jsbret2729]

no glue sniffing...upstairs and nice Chaos UK at the beginning :D

[@fuadfaroqi8128]

What the title?

[@Thecramps1982]

Wonder if the girl interviewed at 1:58 became a bank manager?.

[@philpatton5652]

No she didn't

[@howardgippsfromsydne]

For a much better quality version of this clip look for : 1985 London Punk Entrepreneurs , which is remastered from the original library video tape, bearing in mind this was shot on film (Kodak 7240 / 7250 stock back in 1985).

[@MrTheTrueDalek]

2:15 Doorman sample

[@roxannebowling9719]

My dad's playing that bass 😂

[@michaelh1300]

Quarantine got me watching everything

[@lordsesshomaru8960]

I used to watch this all the time with my friends in High School. We were posers compared to this lot. I figured Punk died after graduation, but the more I learned about history the more I realized that Punk has always expressed itself in more ways than one, and that its integrated into the heart and soul of every free spirited individual. At that point it becomes way bigger than a genre of music, scene, or the way you look.

[@sturat127]

What was the bass line from? I wanna learn it

[@roxannebowling9719]

My dad was playing that in the video... He died so can't ask him

[@grifnifta]

Chaos UK - Victimized. I know its very late but I had listened through some of my old cassettes my dad had given me to find the song. Dad was a massive collector of early UK punk

[@gran.9169]

@@grifnifta its been 10 yrs since he ask

[@Boogieboy138]

This narrator is so cheeky I love it haha

[@fritzki1]

What does the swastika on his shoulder mean? Just curious

[@Garishi]

This is why Minor Threat was brilliant - all this stuff was getting too out of hand.

[@Ben-nx7yy]

2:20 on Doorman i always thought this was a booze pill ad lmao

[@774CISCO]

I remember seeing this doco as a kid, it still holds up !

[@anthonychappell9409]

I used to see Alex a lot at gigs in the early 80's. He was always at Chaos gigs. Not seen him for years; the last time being at Glastonbury festival in 1987

[@philpatton5652]

I haven't seen him since we lived in brixton shame cos he was ok on his own

[@ezequielsotelo9218]

​@@philpatton5652hi Phil emm which punk are you in the video(? Hello i really like Punk i'm 20 and i have curiosity i like punk moviment and music, can we have a conversation (?

[@tekfunk6299]

4 years later was the first Loveparade, what a time to be alive

[@Randomgirl25257]

The narration is award worthy.

[@OthO67]

GG Allin would walk right through...........

[@spicemelange92]

Flesh Robe gg fucking allin

[@Deeznutseighthundredthirty]

I really hate some punks. They will literally say "we're punks. We don't condone violence and rape, unless it's G.G. Allin, of course. That guy is a god." Fuck G.G. and anyone that actually looks up to him.

[@matthewjdouglas6471]

@@Deeznutseighthundredthirty i dont think gg really raped people. He was saying it all for shock reaction. He was violent though

[@lumpenproletarier9584]

@@matthewjdouglas6471 i mean that guy was a junkie and had the physique of a fat 60 year old, it wouldn't take a professional boxer to fight him off so im sure he was full of shit, literally.

[@Sc00byg00ky]

@@Deeznutseighthundredthirty punks are antifa losers change my mind

[@irinayudina4309]

My boyfriend at the time taped this from Australian tv. It was definitely in 1985 not 1983. The tv show was called A Current Affair with mike willesee. A few years later a member of the band Chaos Uk, I think his name was Marvin, was writing to my then boyfriend and he sent a video copy of this clip to Marvin. Thank my ex boyfriend for this footage because if it wasn’t for him taping it, and sending it to Marvin in England, this footage would’ve been lost forever.

[@TheFairway8]

I knew two of the punks here Kev Deverill and George Willy they were from Barnet I would have said its more 83 than 85.

[@alien1066]

and I found it many years later was funny to see it the guy recording it was a prick but he paid us in merrydown cider so we didn't really care and most of the commentary was added later he wouldn't of mocked us like that to our faces

[@cbmccarthy]

Is that Brooksby Street, N1?? I lived on that street 1999-2002. Yuppie by 1999.

[@CDG997]

Anyone here from Slowthai’s Doorman?

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

yeah all you fucking raiders

[@orius1528]

@@aliadidondiaa8024 imagine gatekeeping an entire music scene that died almost 30 years

[@guitardrumskate]

dont live up to anyones expectations but your own

[@vr4junkie385]

What Happened to your other video’s awesome documentary

[@cocopops6201]

That Chaos U.K Victimised intro is so sick 🤘🤘

[@kevinfield3891]

i remember chelsea in the eighties and still love the music

[@andreyecheverri1979]

im a colombian, and i like punk so much but i dont know so much about, if somebody can tell me the name of the song that begins te documentary ill be so glad

[@ArseLoad0fMetal666]

i always loved punk because of awesome agressive music, the politics and some of the great intelligent lyrical and political content in the music that somehow never comes off as pretentious.......these guys are the exception to the rule of punk being inteligent and political

[@CoDaC35]

"Were they looking for a secret stock of glue... or evidence of an orgy " lmao

[@Ryuk789546]

what is the first song?? i love the bass line!

[@geebeetee1]

" Punks love pets" Classic!

[@tyroniousyrownshoolacez2347]

Always loved the British emphasis on dental hygiene. Quite empowering.

[@lauriemarie6902]

I'm home !!! I've subscribed. Love ya. Philadelphia USA

[@beefcakepantiehoes]

at 2:19 STEVE-O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@yourlastfoe]

God I miss being 14 years old, fucking punk chicks and getting drunk/fucked up every day. Everyone needs to grow up some day though.

[@spikeSpiegel114]

14? you barely hit puberty by then, most everyone in this video is in their 20's, the lead guy was 24 here. If you think punk is something you "outgrow" then you were just a poser all along, which is why you think punk is about drinking and sleeping around. Instead of creating a life outside the system, understand geopolitics...etc. So fuck you poser, put on your slacks, button up shirt and drive to your office job and fall in line like the good little sheep you are. And maybe sometimes you can reminisce about how you were "punk" at 14 because you drank and has meaningless sexual encounters with other adolescents.

[@yourlastfoe]

kdlt235 Obviously "reading comprehension" isn't a strongpoint of yours, so I'll elaborate. I was 12 when I got into "punk music" and 14 when I lost my virginity to a "punk chick". During the summers, we regularly drank and smoked [whenever it was available.] Regardless, I have never [to this day at the age of 30] disassociated myself from “punk culture” [which can be applied to ANY music or demographic]. ANYONE with a SHRED of common sense knows that in order to effectively combat ANY unjust “social norm”, one must attack that norm from within. To dumb-down things for you.. If obtaining my political science/sociology degrees and working A&R for record labels in order to better help the disfranchised aren’t “punk enough” for you...Go fuck yourself.

[@MsIthinkthereforeIam]

+SS Leibstandarte Agree with you. Intelligent comment.

[@xOldHerolDx]

what is that music at the beginning?

[@bezinskiii]

slowthai anyone?

[@mikolajpolatajko9411]

Yeeeeeeee

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

stop fucking raiding our cultures

[@Kaaos82]

Everyone calm down or ill remove comments!

[@snarkykryptonite4768]

piss off

[@claudiucipriang.c.c5483]

Sniff some glue and calm down

[@SpectreContact]

1:24 song starts

[@serioussamson]

Shoot the messenger, string 'em up

[@disordertaf]

they expressed themselves in actions like squatting a house to live in and meet in. Stop the city and fighting racism, so there so....

[@Chaosticks148]

Look at the y’all dudes shoulder closer

[@disordertaf]

@Fredrik Ängdahl I didn't scrutinize enough. Oh dear, but punls were generally rocking against racism.

[@disordertaf]

@Fredrik Ängdahl i am 60 years old and I can assure you that there was a big anti nazi movement within the punk scene. The media often focussed on the negative punks, maybe it's more entertaining. Or perhaps because we are a threat to society so the media try to defame us.

[@Noodles37UK]

That narrator's a git

[@xbeheritx8323]

i wonder if any of them are still living?

[@alien1066]

I'm still alive

[@demoviewer]

1:14

[@itsiwhatitsi]

Punk means no rules, chaos

[@lisbethv.d.berghe6834]

not chaos, anarchy, chaos is what gouvernment give us

[@kakstin]

"I believe... in anarchy!" ;-)

[@deafanddestructiononthepis3149]

Fuck what punk means most of us are posting selfies on facebook right now. If punk was like this when I joined I woulda went metal instead. Punk ain't about shit. Streetpunk used to mean 24/7 not 5 minutes before a fuckin show or only on the weekend. I know so many 'punks' that lie about their life online and tell people to do shit they were never about in the first place just because they wanna impress the Casualties or some stupid bullshit. Facebook punx can suck their shit off my dick. I still have a level of intensity and aggression new breeds can't even achieve with alcohol and their fuckin coke habits

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

@@deafanddestructiononthepis3149 lol it´s fucking weird that people call themselves punk anyhow now people all styled like how we grew up like they invented it is just fucking weird

[@Abuamina001]

Where are they now ?......

[@J.G.Wentworth69420]

Cocksparrer

[@vellotrol]

3:55 THE BEST COMMENT OF THE ENTIRE VIDEO LOL!!!!

[@thewhippetbeans]

most punks stopped being punks when they realised it turns your skin green :)

[@deafanddestructiononthepis3149]

thewhippetbeans eh mine isnt there yet but i think ive been every color after a few dyes for sure. Been doing it for decades but I think Im less radioactive than I was back then

[@ignatprokhoropchyuck4652]

@@deafanddestructiononthepis3149 Belsen was a gas

[@j.porlando5091]

Wonder what happened to these guys. Can anyone give any info please?

[@jvttblvck103]

"Requesting an apprentice punk to be more respectful" cfjhfegicefuoec

[@philpatton5652]

Was bullshit never happened

[@gavinreid5387]

Bullying

[@KEEGAN410]

*playboi carti anybody*

[@KelvinTJames]

K24 YESSSSS! Addicting, haha.

[@kristianmccallister759]

Lol same bro

[@cameronallen4071]

Rihht

[@cameronallen4071]

@@kristianmccallister759 right lol

[@glorybear]

YES

[@earlmcraw5606]

Just curious but where does the A on the black banner come from?

[@CardboardScone]

this video cracks me up so much! what the hell, they dont even know what theyre talking about! "for as much gray matter they lack between their ears, they make up for in color on the head" XDDDD

[@Angie_bae]

CardboardScone I have blue hair but I don’t do drugs and sleep in a boarded up abandoned building lol

[@Angie_bae]

Unlike them I actually wake up and go to work everyday lmao

[@philpatton5652]

Idiot I lived in that house an my life turned out well I'm 53 an still aving it

[@Denys_Fresh_Flesh]

respect guys, who are you to judge anyone, CardboardScone you speak like you have fecal matter between your ears, no body is perfect but at least this guys enjoyed some nice experiences in life that you and Angela-MarryCow are apparently jealous about.

[@Sc00byg00ky]

@@Denys_Fresh_Flesh no ones jealous about these bums you sensitive lowlife

[@bucketcitypunxtv2608]

They are not as dumb as the narrator thinks they are.

[@thomasandersen6719]

At the start of this film they sing "leave me alone" as if they mean it....and then they whore themselves to tourists.....

[@lorihuntsinger9712]

@@thomasandersen6719 its like panhandling for booze and possibly drugs that is the point behind it

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

you need to step off our cultures dick

[@howardfromsydney]

@jsbret2729 That is the whole thing...it was a short story, shot on film, for the "Willesee" program, channel 9 Australia in 1985. A better re-coloured version of this is available on KZbin if you search using the correct year 1985, and key word: punk

[@kakstin]

"It's hard to know who stands a greater chance of contracting an infectious disease." I pretty much lost it at this point. Don't know how the narrator kept a straight face. Nothing against the music - I really like a lot of old British punk - but these guys clearly had no idea how unintentionally hilarious they were.

[@kakstin]

Oh, I'm well familiar with both. I've definitely met the present-day equivalent of these kids.

[@cer_eal]

Shout out to slowthai

[@xvbiffbangpow8579]

uh no

[@cer_eal]

@@xvbiffbangpow8579 not your comment, you don't get a say.

[@sturat127]

Does anyone know what that bass line was? I wanna learn it

[@flip117100]

>Be a punk >Has Nazi swastika Choose one.

[@jonowev]

flip117100 Police... police bastard!!!

[@jonowev]

+LSDestroy Swastikas for Christ

[@Crackedcopskulls]

+flip117100 this is 1983 not 2015.

[@TheGroveling]

+flip117100 Well during the first wave of punk Swastika was seen as a joke in the same way you'd prob see when bumping into a KKK suited guy in a public toilet because people were still living in kinda of a post WW 2 world, so it was more of outcasts with what we call around here as "public disdain" or "public disobedience with the common dresscode", lol, like "hey buddy lets cause some public despise I wanna see those granny faces go full twisted" There was no immigration crisis and no White pride skinheads no far left nor far right expect in looniehouses like in asylums. Since I'm from Finland I can actually remember those kind of times before Anti-Facism and Neo-Nazism, well okay white pride jerks came in the 90s so they were seen as loonies and junkies back then and more of "that's what you end up like when you do drugs", so they were more like religious wackos to whom everyone laughed at more than a real challenge. Nobody was political, not even the punks usually and if you asked somebody who they voted for they'd usually reply "what's it up to you? it's my personal info". Nowadays it's all that huge crowd yelling at each others faces and everyone is promoting that if you didn't do this and this in elections you're not my friend..

[@menneskeabe]

Well. maybe in Finland, but the punkculture was from the start very radical and anti-establishment. In England there was big fights between the left-wing antifascist and the right-wing national front, and in Denmark were i am from, there was a huge squatter-movement, where most of the punks were active, and that was based on left-radical politics, especially anarchism, and they were also in regular fights against the neo-nazis, which was called "the green-jackets". So i disagree, the punk-movement was indeed very political, if not left-wing and anarchist, then anti-establishment.

[@aucturussjagaard5169]

I was the most loved Nazi Skinhead that could play liberal likable. I made punk diverse n politically incorrect funny.

[@rubiomola6187]

You was just a little piece of shat.

[@wotsgonon1]

id love to see a doc about these guys nowadays

[@mjh5437]

Probably still just as boring but fat and bald now.

[@grantwilson1650]

Punks love Pets!! Hahahahahaha, I'm sooooo using that as a band name.

[@icymiles]

Came here from playboi carti

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

stop attaching us to that shit

[@mcbielsnoom.l1295]

What is the music in the start of video?

[@jpgh]

doorman let me in the door

[@AKAThatKid]

spent all my money you ain't gettin no more, wages

[@aqfunderscore]

Sure sir, sir are you sure?

[@js5369]

In short , im not a mop you can drag cross the floor

[@POSTBROTHERHOOD]

@@js5369 inside shellshockeEd she is standing with the guy

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

what are all you fucking idiots styled like how we grew up

[@Ulrna]

the police drop by to check for evidence of an orgy? Haha, yeah that sounds about right :p

[@migorneirov798]

What is the name of the music at the very beginning of the film?

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

culture vulture idiots

[@dimethoxy2702]

Chaos uk - victimized

[@zerothehero187]

Hmmmm happy daze in Bristol living at the sunshine ward

[@giozapata]

Playboi carti

[@aliadidondiaa8024]

stop attaching our cultures to garbage

[@Whenicomaroundiscool]

what is the name of the song in the beggining??

[@l.amoeba9348]

i don't think this is punk. I think this is just a bunch of idiots dawdling without a purpose. Doing drugs all the time and asking people for handout is not fighting the system, it's being quiet and inactive just like it wants us to be.

[@chaneymotoxracer]

punk's are idiots, where did you think the name "punk" came from ?! xD

[@l.amoeba9348]

Why the fuck have you banned @Ravenous82's comment? Anyway, I wasn't talking about not working.

[@willmaclachlan8896]

+L. Amoeba Yeah and what have YOU done?

[@zero0948]

Will Maclachlan minor threat rules

[@MildredBonkers]

"Punks unconsciously reinforce the dominant culture rather than escape it because their turn to the sub-urban reaffirms the negative stereotypes used in the center to define this space and its population."

[@skuldnordfodd7472]

I don't know why everyone calls all punks these days posers, I live in a shit apartment which is fucked at the moment, I have punk friends and we usually go to concerts, or just hang around the streets getting wasted cuz' nothing else to do

[@georgevega5058]

Punk rock

[@skuldnordfodd7472]

George Vega ... Yes?..

[@punkrockal100]

as the topic name is the beginning of the video?

[@schwinnbike18]

straight edge had to happen And it did!

[@howardgipps7351]

This is a really old crappy degraded copy of my story. For a much better one see : 1985 London Punk Entrepreneurs Howard Gipps

[@garethoswald3392]

Does anybody know the guy who turns and looks into camera at 3.13 mins. Was he scottish

[@philpatton5652]

Yeah cyril

[@garethoswald3392]

Are you sure. Isnt cyril the guy singing at the start downstairs.

[@simoncoley338]

We used Swastikas as a Shock element.We were Not Nazi's!!! These are 4th+Generation Punks.Nothing to do with Real Punk Rock!!! Punk died in 1978/9!!!Si-Co London Punx'z 1976-20??

[@cesarcrash]

+zee +0LolaLola I don't think we get what he means. His image is Exploited - Fuck The Systems (2003).

[@cesarcrash]

+0LolaLola Well... Simon says that punk died in 78-79, but Simon uses an image (his icon, avatar, whatever) of a punk album from 2003. Also, The Exploited STARTED in 1979. I dunno about you, but I don't get him.

[@williambowman5197]

UK82 punks r more punk than u '76 art school poseurs. You are a tosser simple simon coley

[@deafanddestructiononthepis3149]

Fuck you I did time in the streets and cop cars for this way of life it died with you because you copped out and dropped out you puss

[@deafanddestructiononthepis3149]

William Bowman USA 90's punks were fucking insane. Lots of badass records from 89-99 in USA and we fuckin lived it hard until the internet changed the landscape. I love UK82. These power pop kids kill me and 76 sux