The hackers Oz and Yug were actually quite polite and funny. They could've been very rude and offensive.
@wisteela9 ай бұрын
Yes, huge respect to them.
@harriehausenman86239 ай бұрын
Very good point. The poem *is* actually clever, and the hackers make this segement so much more educational, without doing any harm.
@oninbridders8 ай бұрын
The days when it was just a bit of fun
@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq8 ай бұрын
For most people hacking (and indeed trolling) is still just fun.
@richardsherman22868 ай бұрын
Wow, you are so insightful!
@khaitomretro8 ай бұрын
I remember watching this live. It's the result of using a 2 character password. So quick to btute force even on old slow networks.
@hiburn88 ай бұрын
Actually just one character. The second stroke is the return key.
@khaitomretro8 ай бұрын
@@hiburn8 Listening on headphones I'm fairly sure I heard two keystrokes fairly close together then a slight pause before the third. That matches up with his two-finger typing style and a two characters plus 'return' sequence. It's possible that by sampling the sounds made by other key presses while he was typing known characters we could work out exactly which keys were pressed.
@hiburn88 ай бұрын
@@khaitomretro ah yes, totally possible
@dunebasher19712 ай бұрын
The password was actually "BBC", as John Coll admitted years later. If you listen carefully, you can hear four keystrokes as he says "the password is THAT" - BBC under "password is" and the return key under "THAT". Legend has it that no actual cleverness was involved in this hack; supposedly a friend of Oz and Yug was one of the audience members, and they heard the password mentioned during rehearsal. There was a phone that allowed dialling out in the green room, so they called Oz and Yug, and the rest is history.
@AnthonyChara9 ай бұрын
Remember this well at the time. John Coll ended up being my next door neighbour in the early 90s - a lovely guy!
@wisteela8 ай бұрын
And I see he wrote the terminal software.
@ZacabebOTG9 ай бұрын
The picture quality here is really nice aside from a few dropouts. The PAL Transform Decoding does a really nice job with the old 2" and 1" recordings (those that were not wiped, that is.)
@MadBiker-vj5qj9 ай бұрын
Originally invented by Doctor Who fans to restore recordings of old Dr Who IIRC.
@Mechness8 ай бұрын
@@MadBiker-vj5qjCreated by BBC R&D, but it probably was used for that too.
@PaulTaylor18 ай бұрын
@@MadBiker-vj5qjyou're thinking of VidFire, which was created to restore interlaced video from old telecine recordings - and was actually invented by a paedophile lol.
@623-x7b9 ай бұрын
Back when hacking was for fun instead of scamming people
@willyfeumba8 ай бұрын
Old fart ^^
@wisteela9 ай бұрын
I love everything about this. Great to see an extended version.
@analogueman1234567879 ай бұрын
BT Gold... oh my word! I used that in the very early '90s to access the fledgling internet at the time. It was largely aimed at businesses rather than domestic users, as it was VERY expensive.
@harriehausenman86239 ай бұрын
NTLGOLD is the most precious one 😄
@dronespace8 ай бұрын
Do you recall how much it cost ?
@analogueman1234567878 ай бұрын
@@dronespace - Oh dear, I had a feeling someone might ask me that! LOL! I had it for about a year, before dedicated ISPs started to pop up in the UK (Demon, Compuserve, AOL etc), and I migrated over to Delphi (a US company) located in Camden Lock, London. After more than thirty years, I can't be accurate, but I *think* it was somewhere between a hundred to two hundred quid a month, which was eye-watering at the time. As I said, it was mainly aimed at businesses and educational establishments rather than domestic users, and ran as a rolling contract I seem to recall. I can certainly remember being (financially) relieved when I moved away from it as the recession of the time really started to bite. Hope that helps. 🙂
@dronespace8 ай бұрын
@@analogueman123456787 blimey that was expensive!
@analogueman1234567878 ай бұрын
@@dronespace - LOL!! Yeah, looking back, it was. But I was young... and stupid! 😄
@WhatALoadOfTosca9 ай бұрын
Back when you could broadcast your number, username and password live on tv and hope no one noticed ;)
@Mrjacharles9 ай бұрын
80s was just a different world ... wish I had been alive to see it.
@analogueman1234567879 ай бұрын
It was... I remember it well. A decade of change (both good and bad) that helped mould the world we now live in.
@analogueman1234567879 ай бұрын
@@azrael6285 - In some ways.
@TheStevenWhiting9 ай бұрын
@@azrael6285East Germany would disagree with you on that.
@wisteela9 ай бұрын
I did, and it was awesome.
@TheSpecialCostumeShop9 ай бұрын
I remember the 80s it was the future
@roahnosh3 ай бұрын
I love how he's just pressing keys normally unlike in movies where hackers spam their keyboard
@201081hero9 ай бұрын
How deliciously retro - I love it!
@dronespace8 ай бұрын
❤
@harrisonmorrow71729 ай бұрын
1980s Britain is such a beautiful aesthetic. Interesting to see RGB and remembering the 1988 BBC logo. CRT was such an incredible technology. I would kill for a little TV they have now. Does anyone know what this would have been filmed on to permit the great quality now?
@luaking849 ай бұрын
I believe it was called Potato.
@dfpguitar8 ай бұрын
I'm not an expert but Sony Betacam came out in 1982 so it was probably that as the BBC have always been early adopters. Before that they probably used celluloid.
@thedave77608 ай бұрын
Massive studio cameras the size of refrigerators using tubes to make the pictures, worth as much as a posh sports car and 2 inch video recorders the size of a cortina but worth as much as a house.
@SkeletonSyskey8 ай бұрын
As it was BBC in 1983, I would guess ampex quadruplex videotape.
@lukedavis4368 ай бұрын
I happen to have a 1980s television it's an old Amstrad unit
@justinklenk9 ай бұрын
I was half expecting him to get Rick Rolled.
@anonUK9 ай бұрын
This was 4 years before the song was released.
@justinklenk9 ай бұрын
Damn you both, and your _facts..._
@entarctica9 ай бұрын
In a sense, he was! The “hacker’s song” would have been clearly recognized in ’83 as kzbin.info/www/bejne/fom8qINshbOMiKM - another earworm that was “of the past” then in a way that produced a similar effect.
@justinklenk9 ай бұрын
@@entarctica Ah, but of course...
@thebadgamer19679 ай бұрын
More 99 luftballons
@thomasdalton15088 ай бұрын
I love that the computer expert types by pecking at the keyboard with two fingers. That's even more of a culture shock than polite and humorous trolls!
@Bozebo20 күн бұрын
Not as much a shock as knowing that the same folk who were "experts" then are now the technical directors in almost every company and govt department because they "have the experience"...
@thomasdalton150820 күн бұрын
@@Bozebo That was more than 40 years ago. They'll have retired long ago. The days of someone being appointed Head of Technology because they used to use the computer at their old job are long behind us. I think you may be showing your own age!
@AndyKing19638 ай бұрын
RIP John Coll & Ian McNaught-Davis
@harriehausenman86239 ай бұрын
This is *pure* [NTL]GOLD !! 😆
@cbwavy6 ай бұрын
0:20 That acoustic coupler with the micro text message device was incredibly futuristic for this time. Does anyone know the make and model?
@Urko20058 ай бұрын
I was a member of Micronet 800, fun times.
@Greenpoloboy38 ай бұрын
I have to admit, I do love those old corded phones.
@olliedann9 ай бұрын
Is this the first ever 'steam snipe'?
@billywashburn16488 ай бұрын
That telephone number on the back wall - gives me flashbacks to Saturday mornings and "Swap Shop".
@MrDastardly9 ай бұрын
Super retro hackers!! 👏👏👏
@haralamc8 ай бұрын
Dialing in using packet switching, bro got the og surfshark
@richardrussell70828 ай бұрын
The telephone number on the back wall was later used by Swap Shop.
@dunebasher19712 ай бұрын
Swap Shop ended over a year before this went out :) And the phone number was the same for all BBC television programmes, and had been since the mid-70s.
@TheKievKen7 ай бұрын
Imagine plugging your nice brand-new super-expensive shiny and clean acoustic coupler into a rancid early 1980s New York phone booth phone! I Probably reeked of piss for months afterwards.
@olivere54979 ай бұрын
Have the culprits ever come forward?
@SamHodkin239 ай бұрын
Wikipedia says that a couple of computer guests were in the green room during the programme and heard the password over a live microphone. They phoned up a friendly hacker, who did the hacking itself.
@bexhillbob9 ай бұрын
No, not officially.
@thesmithersy8 ай бұрын
Some chaps called Oz and Yug I think
@twocvbloke8 ай бұрын
Back when "hackers" (to use the modernised definition, versus the original, which was quite different) were just doing things that were actually hilarious, unlike today where they're just utterly malicious with nothing but nasty intent...
@Sierra-Whisky8 ай бұрын
I refuse to call those nasty badguys hackers. They should be called crackers. To me, hackers are the ones who know how to manipulate things (not necessarily computer related) so that it can be used in a way it wasn't originally designed for. This isn't necessarily done by exploiting weaknesses but it's mostly a display of curiosity, knowledge, playfulness and skills. (in random order 😉) These hackers use their skills for the good, so the world can be a better place for us all. Unfortunately the term hackers became contaminated over the years :(
@cattysplat8 ай бұрын
When there is money to be made, suddenly criminals and hustlers are everywhere.
@autoredox2 ай бұрын
*casually invents live chat*
@Raketenclub9 ай бұрын
nice one :)
@markorollo.8 ай бұрын
other than those scenes from the film Wargames where he hacks into a military computer i had no idea we had a kind of internety thing in those days.
@krashd8 ай бұрын
The internet goes as far back as the late 60's but like GPS it wasn't available to the public until much later, around 1979, and even then it would still be cumbersome and niche until 1991 when the launch of the World Wide Web made it easy to use by just about anyone.
@markorollo.8 ай бұрын
@@krashd that's what I always get mixed up, the world wide web with the internet, makes more sense now 😁
@analogueman1234567878 ай бұрын
@@krashd - Indeed the WWW popped up in 1991 (Wiki will tell you that much), but in reality, it really wasn't that accessible until the mid-nineties, coinciding with the release of Windows 95 and usable browsers. Until then, internet access was a text-based thing with numerous little programs to get things done (whois, gophers etc) In a way, I kind-of miss those simpler days - zero regulation, few big corporations, and a global platform that the arse-holes of society had yet to discover.
@Squant8 ай бұрын
@@analogueman123456787 They've always been here. We merely switched from the obnoxious variety to the pathetically ignorant.
@analogueman1234567878 ай бұрын
@@Squant - Ignorance is universal, and no crime. Being a deliberate arse-hole from behind the anonymity of the smart-phone or computer is another matter altogether imho.
@theefishlippedone19 күн бұрын
Brilliant
@macronencer9 ай бұрын
I remember this happening. Haha!
@JonCianci128 ай бұрын
Is this the earliest recorded stream snipe?
@fortyfour16548 ай бұрын
Nice Owl Symbology Aunty! - wink -
@honesto46969 ай бұрын
My eye kept going to Sarah Jane Smith's stuffed toy, Oliver Owl!
@karsh0019 ай бұрын
Golden! 😂
@harriehausenman86239 ай бұрын
NTLGOLDen, that is 😄
@PoshLifeforME8 ай бұрын
I just want to play 'Shades' when I see this..
@cbwavy6 ай бұрын
BBC, please do a deep dive into what happened here!
@davidbisping50009 ай бұрын
I was told the hack was done by Jez San?
@rovingenglishman9 ай бұрын
What?! I worked for him at Argonaut hah
@JamieMurphy258 ай бұрын
This is long before Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS and Linux systems dominated the scene.
@jabezhane8 ай бұрын
I think I read somewhere that Bill Gates saw a bunch of networked BBC Bs installed somewhere in the UK and was quite surprised how well it all worked. Networking at the domestic home and school level that didnt cost a small fortune. Back in 1986 our were all networked at school. My friend and I managed to get hold of the manual as the teacher had left it out one lunchtime. We had a field day with all the commands. Much fun was had.
@hazy337 ай бұрын
@@jabezhaneEchonet iirc 🙂
@MadBiker-vj5qj9 ай бұрын
How to deal with numpty interviewers lesson one: Mike tried to sidetrack the conversation a couple of times, but the B.T. guy was having none of it, and just went straight on with giving the presentation that he was there to give. Superb.
@stephenhumphrey79358 ай бұрын
I found this video very offensive. How dare the hackers not use any swear words. And why did they not insult his mum?? Disgrace. 😡😡
@tonythetyger999 ай бұрын
Cyberpunk!
@grahamnichols14169 ай бұрын
Assoon as they mentioned BT we knew it was doomed to fail.
@cosmicwartoad25872 ай бұрын
it was planned in advance
@dunebasher19712 ай бұрын
No it wasn't.
@robertdewar17529 ай бұрын
TV gold. They don't make shoes like this anymore - shame.
@Keithbarber9 ай бұрын
Typo alert Shows not shoes
@bletheringfool9 ай бұрын
They never made shoes like that
@MadBiker-vj5qj9 ай бұрын
Yeah, much more comfortable.
@sharpvidtube9 ай бұрын
DM's were cheap back then, the price now is crazy.
@BarryVP128 ай бұрын
I must say that the shoes are not to my liking. I watched the clip and my feet feel no warmer.
@squarecircle55228 ай бұрын
Were they searching for porn.
@sarahjrandomnumbers8 ай бұрын
*HACK THE PLANET!*
@jean-lucpicard55108 ай бұрын
Think this could have been set up.
@dunebasher19712 ай бұрын
No it wasn't.
@sprint955st9 ай бұрын
I remember watching this the first time round, and thinking then it was faked, and even more so now I am 100% convinced this was faked. Its just so BBC ‘nice’. Why would he read out the digits he was using as the telephone number, the PIN, etc. what a load of nonsense
@DavidGloverAoki9 ай бұрын
It certainly was real, the participants - both the presenters, the audience, and even the hackers themselves, have been interviewed about it many times. It must be very sad being so cynical about absolutely everything.
@sprint955st9 ай бұрын
@@DavidGloverAoki Were you there? Doubt it so so you are only repeating what you read about it. Do you know me? No. What gives you the right to make such a sweeping statement about me and my views? Want me to make up my mind about you and post it freely? I have an opinion on one subject….you make personal comments. Says more about you than me.
@bexhillbob9 ай бұрын
@@sprint955st It wasn't faked.
@sprint955st9 ай бұрын
@@blapmass Absolutely. That’s the word I was looking for. ‘Ooh, hacking, that’s an exciting topic related to computers that people have started hearing about! We must have some hacking!’
@You-tw4zs8 ай бұрын
By the amount of characters he typed for the password (4) it was probably just an early brute force attack. If you were going to stage a hack you would have thought they'd do something more than print a song without a tune. It seems too off the cuff to be staged.
@kludgie9 ай бұрын
Earliest example of business casual dress code on BBC TV?
@dunebasher19712 ай бұрын
No, not by a long chalk. That look was common years before.