1985 Mustang GT vs. Camaro Iroc-Z vs. Trans Am | Retro Review

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[@anthonylaudano9751]

It's crazy to think lol the 3 were fast.

[@markprice2225]

This was Great! 👍 I was born in 78 and this reminds me of my Dad(Ford guy)and my uncle John(chevy nut). Dad's had about 5 different f150s, uncle John just got new Z71. I drive a 91 mustang GT hatchback and it's Fuel injection Thank God!

[@wlittle8908]

" This is the '80's , haven't you heard of fuel injection?" Wow talk about a throwback to my teen years.I love it.Good job

[@usquanigo]

Messed up thing is, Fuel Injection was used in the late 1930s, in the Daimler DB60x series of engines installed (inverted) in the Bf-109.

[@MrBioniclefan1]

@@usquanigo yep and there were some car in the 1950's that used fuel injection but that was rather rare.

[@leeannbowser7036]

86 first year for mustang fuel injection 87 had better heads

[@agrojester1156]

1986 was first year for most brands from govt shit and soon after OBDII

[@derkommissar4986]

@@usquanigo but old fuel injection was just a glorified carburetor

[@michaelstevens5588]

R.I.P Pontiac. I miss you so bad. Think of you every day.

[@79tazman]

I'm a Mopar guy but my favorite GM division is Pontiac they had some of the best engines in it's day in the 60's and 70's after 81 Pontiac used nothing but Chevy engines

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Yep

[@markfrost9942]

79tazman Not true. 1989 had the option for a turbo charged 3.8L Buick motor.

[@GK-ud8dv]

Americans turned their back on their own and let our legends die.

[@MrJames-uy9wf]

@@GK-ud8dv American "Executives" did that.

[@revelare_xvii6269]

*There’s something about 80’s muscle cars that just does it for me.* *Not too much power + that sweet V8 soundtrack just captures my interest.*

[@chrlst0pherw.splawn831]

Came here to say this

[@JRC99]

You can beat on them all day long and as long as you aren't completely braindead they're easy to keep straight

[@robertlucas1435]

Good sound and controllable fun.

[@kanob6440]

this war will always go on. rip Pontiac, you are missed

[@pwilki8631]

chevrolet will be next to joint the automotive graveyard. Chrysler is already there for all intents and purposes. FIAT...LMFAO!!

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Chevy will be the last gasoline-powered-autos company standing...

[@michaelws6247]

kano b truly missed yet, out of its misery. GM would of kept fucking with it and driving it's name further in the ground. The last true Pontiac muscle was the 2002 trans am. The gto and G8 came from Aussie Re-badged. Fun cars but not Pontiac designed. Hell even the G6 was a clone from Opel or some euro brand GM owned at the time. Douche bags had the world by the balls in the 2000-2004 era. But they pissed it all away with dumbshit investments and caused the death of Pontiac Oldsmobile, hummer and Saturn. They could of made billions with these brands if they would of restructured when sales started falling. Instead they kept pumping out cars that didn't sell.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Michael, the last true Pontiac engine was made in 1981... exPres. EvilBushJr. totally collapsed/bankrupted the USA and most of the world economies and companies by Sept. 2008 after 8 years in office and caused the GM and Chrysler quickie bankruptcies... Ford would have gone under also, but it had just sold Aston Martin or some other Division and had some working cash available (if they could get it out of a bank!)... www.wsj.com/articles/SB122169431617549947 .

[@cobracharmer6178]

BuzzLoLoL, how is it Bush's fault for GM building crap? Delorean keeping GM afloat through the drug trade. And Chrysler has always needed bail outs starting with Jimmy Carter. Then Mercedes and now with Fiat.Clinton deregulated mortgage and the banking industries in the 90's leading to corruption like Bernie Madoff bilking Americans $billion's. Ford going under? Never a chance. Ford invested $billions in Volvo, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Mazda etc. and saved these companies from collapse. (which is my only pet peeve with Ford.79-93 Mustang, 89-99? T-Bird.Unchanged designs.Then the 2 seater T-Bird? What were they thinking?) If Ford made a retro Cougar, Mercury would probably be around? And as for Bush Jr? I saved up my tax rebates he sent out to millions of Americans during his term and with my savings, I bought a 09 Shelby GT500 in 11-08. Still own it today.

[@alphamaledriveshard]

"Carburetors! Merely carburetors!". Love that line. That needs to be on a t-shirt.

[@diver362]

I’d buy that for a dollar!

[@wingmanalive]

Owned and loved a 1988 IROC-Z28. 5.7L TPI. Fully loaded with T-tops and premium Bose sound. Fastest? Nope. Did I care? Nope. Fun? OH HELL YEAH!

[@genegeneish]

Doesnt matter if you win or lose, its how good you look doing it. The IROC ROCKED.

[@wingmanalive]

@@genegeneish Yes it did. When I met my wife back in the late 90's I had to drive to the DMV to get it inspected. Two guys came up and one said "Yo that's a fat ride!". Yeah, she was impressed lol. Married her and she made me get ride of the car. She said it wasn't practical. She's gone now and all I want is my car back!

[@JustMe-ws2pe]

My fav

[@JustMe-ws2pe]

@@wingmanalive i was keeping my car..she was just insecure that you would pull another chick in it.

[@wingmanalive]

@@JustMe-ws2pe Yeah well she said it wasn't practical, like how's it going to look with car seats? Yet, she drove it every chance she got. That's what women do however. They want your full attention and adoration. They don't want competition from a car.

[@viking4194]

I grew a mullet while watching this.

[@phillipsmarlin3030]

lmao

[@ssimon64]

viking419 Fucking best comment ever haha!!!

[@kre814]

1969L78Nova shut the shit up with your schematics

[@Flabulo]

I went in with a mullet but I came out with hairspray in it.

[@justinhughes8202]

TPI IROC ('85 350)was the glory of my mid 90's teen driving. I had a H.O 305 in my last IROC as well..R.I.P my dear IROC's may we meet again.

[@gitarzzan1]

WOW! 200 horsepower? How do they keep it on the road?

[@louphi34]

🤣

[@happycudgel2193]

It was a bad, bad time.

[@Bassin_withaustin]

My silverado could kick aas

[@Alex68dash]

@@Bassin_withaustin this was 85 and that Silverado would be a C10 Silverado trim

[@KrisThatsit]

@@Bassin_withaustin I rented a new Silverado from U-haul and that thing felt like a muscle car when you floored it, it surprised me with how quick it felt for how heavy it is

[@hyangwookan7845]

WOW DID YOU HEAR THOSE EXPENSIVE HIGH PRICES? 10K MUSTANG 11K IROC 12K TRANS AM FULLY LOADE

[@AnthraxBird]

31,243.06 in 2020 dollars, for those who wondered

[@garywarman4402]

10,000 back then is like 30,000 today. 10,000 was alit of money back then.

[@revest100]

Not to mention that fully loaded only meant AC, power windows , and AM/FM Cassette. Cloth seats. Nothing like a fully loaded vehicle today. No comparison.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

We'd just had bad inflation... the prices were a 1/3 of that 10 years earlier...

[@theinstitute1324]

@@AnthraxBird That's still cheap as dirt when you consider the modern fully loaded car prices

[@spange_babs9130]

"carburetors, merely carburetors" Such simpler times.

[@flight2k5]

Fuck carbs

[@kevgregrob2]

Much simpler, and cheaper to maintain and modify back then!

[@flight2k5]

Kevin Gaston no they’re not!

[@8000RPM.]

@@flight2k5 when was the last time you modified your fuel injection? Yes fuel injection is superior.....but carbs are easier to mod.

[@flight2k5]

8000RPM you don’t need to mod fuel injection 🤣😂 because something is easy to work on doesn’t make it more reliable or better.

[@anthonyaumell2504]

I've got a '88 Foxbody GT which would have been considered fast in the 80s. Now your average new minivan comes with more horsepower lol crazy how times have changed!

[@tomglorius5091]

Yeh 88 fox body owner however with a few performance goodies these cars fox bodies will haul ass. They are a favorite for racers cause there lightweight and look good and prices are cheap er...now however there going up so be happy u own one me and my son both have one enjoy it 😀😀😀

[@anthonyaumell2504]

I hear ya. Lots of mods u can do to a foxbody. However to find one completely stock is always worth more. Much like most classics. And yes, very happy I have one! Very far from stock tho. Few engine mods with a larger cam and heads and upper intake.

[@jrod264winmag]

You can thank government regulated emissions for that.

[@brawdz31]

I used to drive an ‘06 Malibu, and I just got my ‘84 300ZX... no matter how much I try to believe... the Malibu is waaayy faster

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

@@brawdz31 i still prefer the old 300, just enjoying something for what it is is the best way. now everything have 500 hp but also everything suck. take a 1965 mustang or a first gen RX7. many things are faster than that now but they are fun for what they are. take GM they will stop the camaro again because it dosent sell, but it have tons of power and what have you, if gm just made an exact copy of the 1969 made the engines pass the emission test with TBI and GM wouldnt have been able to build enough to fullfill the order. you go to a car show where there is ferrari and 1000hp veyron but people gather around that fully original duster with an inline 6 with 140 hp lol. that says something

[@courtneybrown6382]

The iroc-z still is and will always be my favorite automobile of all TIME!

[@danielmalone4446]

same here ive always wanted an iroc-z with t tops

[@larrydavis7097]

Agreed my favourite camaro of all and I’m buying another one

[@MisterMikeTexas]

But a manual should have been offered.

[@fernandorocha8459]

@@danielmalone4446 Camaro Iroc Z 85-88 is my muscle car favorite and Berlinetta 85 and 86

[@hakeemsd70m]

The '82 Camaro is my all time favorite of the nameplate!

[@gaguy1967]

almost looks like a 80s parody, but it isnt

[@slowstang88]

I'm glad that decade is gone..

[@will7its]

@@slowstang88 Yeah, things are so much better now......

[@slowstang88]

@@will7its HP wise yes

[@will7its]

@@slowstang88 I thought you were making a general comment about society. My bad....

[@Admiral_Bongo]

@@mileshayter7440 A lot of other things were cringy, please.

[@NoChaserNoChaser504]

imagine the looks one their faces if we went back in time and showed them the Hellcat, Shelby GT500 and ZL1

[@jakereal3604]

funny you said that! Or my 2006 Chrysler 300C would smoke these cars and leave them in the dust and that's a luxury sedan

[@NoChaserNoChaser504]

jake real I have a 06 RT charger that would whip these

[@jakereal3604]

my 97 Mark VIII LSC with 291,000 miles would too :)

[@NoChaserNoChaser504]

jake real lol that's cool, did you know the distance between the Earth and Moon is 238,900 miles

[@NoChaserNoChaser504]

***** lol

[@LakeHowellDigitalVideo]

7:20 The Mustang driver spins out of control -- apparently, the initiation of every Mustang driver.

[@mcwolf6636]

Did that on purpouse

[@starbattles1]

it's fun. You should try it

[@nickoD509]

@Thedoom turtle Have to have a car for all of the girls to drive of course.

[@wboquist]

Unfortunately, I did that once in my '85 Mustang GT on a public road on a descending corrkscrew turn. Fortunately, there was no one else on the road at the time. Lesson learned.

[@patrickjerzak2685]

Those Mustangs will get away from you if you have one in or have ever had some real seat time in one of that era still a ballsy car nuff said .

[@randywilliams6248]

I remember when I was growing up in the 80's and my dad had a mustache, shorts so short his balls almost hung out and his glasses were bigger than aviators but God damn..... men were men back then!!!!

[@Esdeath_0001]

Haven't we all seen our dads package?

[@maidenrulz73]

Randy Williams his balls were hanging out? Wtf

[@jean_mora]

How can we tag your dad 😂

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

Your Dad's Balls were hanging out ?????

[@Irondiesel]

Shit I came across an picture of myself back in 86 and couldn't believe how short my shorts were. I had to quick grab it so my kids didn't see it. WTF were we thinking. lol

[@sabbathoneseveneight8643]

The thing that really hurt the Mustang fox body was the small 225 tires and 3:08 gear ratio. They really came alive with 255 tires in the back and a 3:73 gear.

[@MethodMan..]

I love ALL MotorWeek retro shows, a real blast from the past. Thank you very much for publishing them.

[@chocodiledundee1]

To me as far as I am concerned that's my favourite looks ever ... The 80's were magical , the moustaches , the trucker hats , those tight fit jackets and Levis 501 , best cars , best music , best tv shows , best looking women , best looking trucks .... Man I miss the 80's so much !

[@stevebellen298]

Lol women today look much better no pubes don't have 3 cans of hairspray holding their dumbass looking hair do's couldn't light a joint near them the bitch would catch on fire

[@Wangchung405]

And hairy vaginas!

[@1989pulsar]

For me, it was the 90's

[@ladyvee7110]

Member's Only jacket, aviatar shades...doesn't get more 80s than this.

[@supercooled]

+ladyvee7110 Don't forget the chester the molester 'stache aka Burt Reynolds look.

[@ladyvee7110]

+supercooled Magnum, P.I. certified. ;-)

[@Jigsjigz]

aviator

[@alteredstateskustom]

ladyvee7110 it must have been a knock off members only jacket Real ones had the black label above the pocket

[@lexitastad9824]

Magnum P.I. Is on Ssshhhh

[@sixfootfourmike]

2020 and I still love the IROC Z

[@daddybonsai6986]

me and my friend still drive around his 1992 z28 convertible camaro to this day

[@kierenalvarez]

It looks good but it is awful slow.

[@Iconhulk]

I'm sorry..?

[@Davidjon1946]

@@daddybonsai6986 you live in Buffalo New York by chance?

[@daddybonsai6986]

@@Davidjon1946 I’m in San Fran Cali, update i bought a third gen firebird

[@johnkempton5269]

I graduated high school in 1985. My first car ,I worked my ass off for, was a 1969 Camaro, this vid made me feel like I went back in time.

[@leenevin8451]

Guessing they weren’t desirable at the time because they were “old” but they were faster haha?

[@derkommissar4986]

@@leenevin8451 they were also not the best in gasoline and you know, new cars sell more than older ones

[@mikec4772]

I have owned all 3 and my favorite was the chevy

[@jcdenton4902]

mine was ford

[@Keplerb-od1lr]

200hp doesn’t sound like much these days but it was all relative. Since the average family car had anywhere from 75hp to 120hp, you were king of the street in one of these…. until some kid pulled up in his dad’s 60s era MOPAR. This was actually a really fun time to have a sports car. Every little aftermarket upgrade gave you a real advantage on the street. If you had the cash, a cam and head upgrade would put that Mustang into to the low 13s easy.

[@brandonhumphries3377]

it woulda been nice if Motor week had threw a GLHS Charger or Omni in this shootout

[@DerekLFoster]

Until you realize a 60’s mopar isn’t any faster than the 14.3 the mustang did if not slower.

[@DerekLFoster]

Motor trend rated the big bad 1970 426 hemi cuda at 14.1 in the 1/4

[@BrownBomber92181]

Also these card were much lighter. This 85 GT weighed 3,150 lbs! Today's GT is just a few pounds under 4k.

[@mustangstuff7213]

The HP numbers are so misleading. They all had loads of torque. Stop looking at HP ratings as if they actually mean anything. It's just silly.

[@maximilianoluera6679]

"Teenagers"

[@gojira931]

to be fair, he said "over the hill teenagers".

[@Bcroft39]

I’m a 80’s man and these were the cars to have in their day. As for HP, you have to remember that we weren’t far out of the 70’s. In the 70’s, the American auto corporations sucked all of the hp out of their engines. The 350 in the 1979 corvette only had 225 hp and the ones in the Comaro’s only had from 155-175 hp. That in itself should show you what they did to the engines in the 70’s. The early 70’s mustangs were to heavy and not enough hp. Then they made that little turd that they called a mustang for several years in the 70’s with 4 and 6 cylinder engines for better fuel mileage. It was only in the 80’s that Ford started trying to make the Mustang fast again. I had a 1985 Black GT Mustang Convertible and I loved that car. No it wasn’t nearly as fast as the Mustangs today, but i loved it. I can still remember the first time I saw the new GT Mustang tv commercial. At the end of it they said “The Boss is back.”

[@stephenslusser2895]

I bought a new '85 IROC-Z / Z28 that was, 34 years ago now, a giant leap ahead of anything that Detroit had built in more than a decade, not so much in power, but very much in handling and braking. The Tuned Port Injection was super advanced compared to carbs. and Throttle Body Injection, and I could just see it was right for a blower and after the novelty of owning it for a while, I installed a Paxton supercharger. It then made as much horsepower as the corvette would make later in '92, with the LT1. Later, after the wife had gone, and the 3 kids were grown, I bought a Vette. But for a while in the late 80's, I had a very fast family of five.

[@CarCommercialsofthePast]

Man, I love these car comparisons made by Motorweek.

[@fightnight47364]

Carb big enough to inhale Cleveland 🤣🤣

[@RJMay3]

600 cfm.

[@mcqueenfanman]

Ha ha!

[@NoName-jy8oc]

And here I sit in Garfield, Heights Cuyahoga County. Howdy everyone.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

What a great show. How could you not like this? It’s so cheesy and fun.

[@rustyshackelford4642]

I'll take the trans am any day , love me some pontiacs.

[@sales8026]

Avatarblackwolf it stands for Poor Old Nigga Things It's A Cadillac 🤔

[@jbatic8094]

completely different brand Pontiac=sporty Cadillac=luxury

[@johnrhodes101875]

I had a 86 and 93 ta wish I had my 86 back with my 93 engine and transmission in it that LT1 was nice of course if I'm wishing I might as well wish for the LS1

[@Starkid1236offical]

Christian Higgins trash

[@pontiacmaniac7772]

Robby D’s garage Cadillacs are garbage though

[@UnenthusedEnthusiast]

Just looking at these cars brings me back to a simpler, happier, better time. Miss those days.

[@doca8792]

I recorded this episode on its original air date. I still have the VHS tape. Hands down one of my favorites, especially now cause I just picked up today an ‘85 Mustang 5.0 in the same exact colors.

[@DarkStryker]

I wanna pay 11k for a new car!!!!

[@2005jgkay]

+Dark Stryker kia lol

[@Stressless2023]

+sleepybird09 Cheapest new car today is the Nissan Versa - $12k.

[@foolongtea]

+sleepybird09 Mirage is $9,999.

[@Stressless2023]

***** Mitsubishi lists the Mirage at just under $14k on its website for its cheapest trim level. Certain dealerships may advertise $10k for them, but that isn't the original list price.

[@foolongtea]

SuchANiceGirl22 That's Canadian pricing, they're $9,999 in the US.

[@auxmike]

That IROC is gorgeous! No carbs for me, thanks! Especially in NY winters

[@HNKYTHECLOWN]

This is actually stupid my trans am has the l98 fuel injected motor

[@randylee2549]

Who drives these in winter

[@JNC1973]

Always Loved the Transam but in Black cause I was addicted to Knight Rider "K.I.T.T.".

[@robertclymer6948]

Jason, I think we all were in love with K.I.T.T.!!

[@JNC1973]

@@robertclymer6948 Yeah true. It's like the Transam looked cool on it's own and then KITT came along and just made it that much cooler. Every Transam lover probably fell in love with him lol.

[@Magnero]

The Firebird has held up best for looks.

[@_baller]

corvusala smoothest lines..

[@John-jr1si]

corvusala Hell nah, do a 454 engine swap with heavy duty suspension and a posi rear differential, that thing can easily compete or even smoke a brand new muscle car. And all those mods are thirty times cheaper than buying a brand new muscle car too. These third gens are great project cars. 😎😎😎

[@RedfishCarolina]

The Mustang looked like garbage they day it rolled off the lot

[@02autogt]

😂

[@02autogt]

@@RedfishCarolina must've had that ass skint up by several Mustang's over the years, LMAO!!!!

[@killervell98]

I can not tell you how much I love retro, the world needs more of this stuff.

[@MARedleg]

I miss the 80s, best decade to be alive! In 1985 I was 16 and too poor to afford either one of these.

[@jukeboxzero1]

Gotta love the mustang's 4-lug wheels and rear drum brakes!! And oh - that 3-box styling is to die for!

[@heavilyarmedgoy]

Those 85 to 90 iroc z`s were sexy!

[@jasonfields192]

They would guarantee you a peice of ass back then lol

[@fernandorocha6486]

@rich duley my favorite and dream car of 80s in Camaro Iroc Z 85, 86, 87 and 88

[@ChristBuilt901x]

@rich duley I just bought myself a 1989 Iroc-Z not to long ago. The previous owner swapped the 305 for the 350 and kept its 5-speed manual. Its like a dream lol

[@bobjohnson7972]

HeavilyArmedGoy love the iroc I had one and will always love those cars

[@yourtraining4255]

HeavilyArmedGoy married

[@bryanmchugh1307]

For the era these 3 cars were considered pretty quick. Never did I think I would see the day of 450+ HP Camaros and Mustangs STOCK. I had a gorgeous 1992 white Firebird Formula. It was slow as a boat with its TBI 305 but it was actually a really nice car. Had great brakes and surprisingly good handling. It may have gotten stomped by every Mustang GT in town but it was as reliable as a hammer. Never a single problem.

[@quintfl]

I just bought a 1986 Mustang GT yesterday. On the way home everyone that drove by wanted to race.

[@bg5561742]

Gary W-l-o-t I just bought a iroc this past Weekend it’s getting motor pulled and on to the body shop for a paint job

[@mofayer]

They where taunting you, that body mustang was the worst mustang for ever made.

[@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel]

I had an 85 Mustang GT in highschool.

[@Pookie2419]

@@mofayer i guess that's why it beat the other 2 cars in speed. 🤫

[@happycudgel2193]

Again. It was what it was. For the time, one of the fastest NEW cars on the road.

[@sp0228]

"I'd rather eat worms than ride in a Chevy!" - them be fightn' words y'all.

[@robbygiacona5164]

I agree 100% about Chevys ! Are overrated always have been always will be ! Mustangs will always be better than Chevy Camaros that's a known fact !👍

[@reido_dorito]

@Robby Giacona Ah, a man of culture, I see. Ford gang, Robby. Ford gang indeed.

[@robbygiacona5164]

@@reido_dorito yes I am a man of culture and badass Mustangs ! I've had three of them in 83 84 and 85 convertible all GTS ! I loved every one of them ! I am a true Ford gangster !👍

[@tikalthewhimsicott2736]

SP02 I wonder if that guy is related to Mahk from Zebra Corner

[@reido_dorito]

@Tiakl The Whimsicott *the men of culture just keep coming*

[@jitterbug2065]

I owned two 85 Mustang GTs as a teenager and damn those were some fun times!

[@zethloveless7238]

The 85 gt was no slouch 🫡

[@milwaukeewisconsin3366]

Gotta LOVE THE 80’s 🤘🏼

[@Underpantsniper]

A 14.3 second 1/4 ET isn't all that bad to be honest..

[@robertelmo7736]

+Underpantsniper You're right, that's a fast time for a hatchback carb car. That would be good time for a 87+ car with the better heads.... I also remember the 305 tuned ports being faster than the HO carbed motors....

[@scott9050]

+Robert Elmo Low option 87 cars with the 10 minute tuneup were well into the 13's at over 100, very respectable for 1987. I am sure no one back then could have imagined what the restart of the Pony wars would lead to.

[@scott9050]

+CareerFireman I saw a 13,000 mile 85 GT T-Top car for sale at Fords at Carlisle this past summer, I was absolutely in love with it.

[@robertelmo7736]

+scott9050 LOL these whippersnappers have no idea what a 10 minute tune up is...

[@whoohaaXL]

+Robert Elmo Removing the silencer in the intake, adjusting timing and a shorter bypass drive belt.

[@mattgonzalez4457]

All those BEAUTIFUL classics at the Dairy Queen 🤩...... well I guess the Stang Camaro and Firebird are all classic now too 😂

[@emeyer6963]

It was fun coming of age when these roamed the USA.I had a new 88 Mustang GT off the lot for $13700 with A/C power windows and locks and a stereo cassette.

[@joshriver75]

E Meyer pshhhh..that's nothing...the iroc had a cassette with Dolby NR that could be switched on and off ;p

[@jakereal3604]

I remember when Dolby was like a state of the art feature on ..... GRIN cassette decks LOL If you ask todays teens about Dolby they will probably say "Whos Dolby? a football player? LOL

[@81zed]

The 2 door Mustang sedan with a 5.0 was faster than a GT. And...about 4 grand cheaper. My brother's first new car. It came with a 5.0, 5 speed stick, AM radio....and that was it. And it wasn't even a hatchback. He use to kill Camaros and Trans Ams and a few Vettes back in the late 80's. Fun times.

[@jonnielaw7737]

81zed I very seriously doubt he killed any vettes get real dude stock vette had l98 tuned port aluminum heads header's and around 350 hp sorry your full of shit

[@81zed]

Actually it did spank a few Vettes back then but definitely not all of them. The ones he couldn't beat, he gave them a good run for their money. Buick T-Type and Grand Nationals were another story. A stock L98 never put out anything close to 350 hp back then and never had headers...only center dump sheep horn manifolds.

[@cubedmack]

I remember watching this show every Saturday morning when I was a teenager and remember seeing this episode.

[@chrismathes3647]

I'm a Fox body guy through-and-through but if you grow up in that era you love all 3

[@pacific7775]

Imagine if you could still buy a mustang v8 for 10g new ..

[@iAmCodeMonkey]

Except that people made less on average back then, so it will never be that cheap again in our lifetimes.

[@laz7354]

Even adjust for inflation, that's $25,000 today. A steal for an equivalent of any of those cars.

[@poolplexer]

you can. and you'll still only get 200HP out of it for that price LOL

[@willmills1370]

@Planet Purgatory Yup, just watch Street Outlaws on the Discovery Channel. Chuck S has that '89 White LX with a small block and rear 4 link suspension running sub 10's. Proof that those old Fox bodies are still worth it. No less you can still find them sitting in peoples yards with no plates and a broken window... my neighbor has a blue LX doing just that.

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

Pacific777 On Christmas Eve 1984 . I bought a brand new 1985 Mustang GT. And like the genius that I am I sold it .

[@edwardaustin740]

All these are sweet. I had an 89 GTA. You fall in and crawled out. Man, what Knight Rider did to me growing up, 8 T/A ...

[@jeffersongraves5295]

Edward Austin no that's the c4 corvette

[@TheDaddynate]

Mustangs were always cooler. They should've used the 351w when GM put the 350s back in Camaros and TAs. A sport tuned 351w would've destroyed the LTs

[@mfnbigdaddy73]

Wrong, ford couldn't produce heads that met emissions that could flow like the Chevy's heads. Chevy has always had better flowing heads, Chevy forced ford into DOHC 32 valve engines to try and compete with Chevy's pushrod 16 valve engines. And mustangs were never cooler than the IROC Camaro.

[@larryzeldin7561]

loved this. I don’t know motorweek stopped doing these “VS” battles and also their comparisons like luxury sedan battle.

[@ChooseLanes]

sway bars the size of sewer pipes hahahahaha!

[@STARSHIPTROOP]

+Kevin M I guess his toilet backed up alot...lols

[@BuzzLOLOL]

LOL !!! ... Yeah, 1 1/8" toilet drain not real practical !!!

[@HorsepowerGarageVideos]

I'd be fucked, I regularly clog my 4 inch pipe.

[@ssimon64]

Horsepower Garage Chuck Norris can clog the toilet with his piss

[@michaelsanders151]

Kevin M gotta have something to hold all that shit together 😉

[@kemtitanproductions8831]

"5.0" In a straight line beat these two up for a minute back in the day and was kicking ass until it had to turn. I like all three for what they were.

[@brianbuchert6382]

Kemtitan Productions I love these mustang gts but back in the day my 1969 olds cutlass with a 350 rocket ate all three of these cars for breakfast!!

[@231mac]

@@brianbuchert6382 Yeah... no it didn't, lol

[@brianbuchert6382]

231mac um yeah it sure did 12 bolt posi rear end from a 442 I ate mustangs all weekend long

[@ghuff31]

you should have quit pulling up to Ghias and 4bangers, bro.

[@backyardbuck6362]

Until the Firebird Formula showed back up in 87' with 350 TPI the true mustang slaying F body. Yea it didn't have the ground effects and all that but it was the lightest 350 tpi and the fastest and had the same handling as the Trans Am.

[@JustMe-ws2pe]

Had that mustang before but always loved the iroc.

[@SonOfTamriel]

I do think the Iroc-Z looks great now, even though I wasn't a huge fan back in the day. Whenever I find an 80s and 90s Camaro/Firebird (or even Corvette) for sale, 100% of the time they are automatics. Seems really rare to find a manual, especially the 350ci Camara/Firebird. On the other hand, Mustang manuals are much easier to find.

[@SonOfTamriel]

BZBEAST12 Interesting, I was pretty sure they had a manual option for the 350. Been a long time...

[@bzmaro]

Only thing that croses my mind would be the 1le but i dont know exactlt the drivetrain specks those had i just got an iroc as a first car not to long ago this year so ive been reading a lot about them and still have a lot to learn lol!

[@mcqueenfanman]

+SonOfTamriel Nobody made a 5spd that could last behind a 350, they were common to go out even behind v6s.The vette had a manual trans, but it was a 4spd with a od gear set add to the back. Google 4+3 transmission.

[@bzmaro]

Yup not very reliable in those applications really a shame it never was done

[@SonOfTamriel]

mcqueenfanman thanks man.

[@jdonns2221]

Looks like these guys should be reviewing white vans instead.

[@BikerJim74]

+Joseph Rogers LOL!

[@hughjass8507]

+68Barracuda11s You don't get the joke

[@DolleHengst]

+Joseph Rogers Why not black vans? You are racist! Now where's my fried chicken? xD

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Respect has to be earned, not colored in...

[@BooRadley452]

"respect" is misplaced 79.4% of the time according to surveys.

[@vineryoulks7774]

80s cars were so powerful... 210 horse power it's amazing they didnt flip over backwards off the line

[@tomglorius5091]

Yeh but put that in a fox body 5.0.that 210 horsepower add headers cold air in take upper lower performance intake and my friend u have a racecar that will eat most cars for lunch and its all cheap add ons. So for not a lot cash u can race with more expensive so called fast cars lol 😀😀😀

[@tomglorius5091]

Funny but take a 89 5.0 add headers performance intake. Cold air induction and a little lightfox body mustang and u will eat 90 percent of the old muscle cars for breakfast and that's no joke aaaahhhaaaaaa u like that blah blah 😀😀😀

[@DimitriosChannel]

Look at the late 1980's Chevy Corvette Lotus designed ( GM owned them & hand built them in America ) LT5 DOHC 5.7 all aluminum engine. Still holds well to this day. Power varied starting at 375HP-430HP I believe and revved up to 7,500 - 9,000 RPMS.

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

form 1974 to the mid 90's 200 hp was like 500 today

[@TurboTurdBurglar]

They had 300 ft pounds of torque. Which made up for the low hp

[@NemeanLion-]

I had an 84 Trans Am, but mine was black on top, gold on the bottom and gold wheels. I didn’t think much of it at the time (because I was in high school 86-89), but it was pretty awesome in hindsight. I guess that’s a part of being young. You don’t always appreciate those times as much because you think your younger years will go on forever.

[@thegamerbrotherman2399]

I miss the 80s. I’m a slightly younger Generation X and remember always seeing these cars plus some cool Japanese Datsuns and RX7s.

[@NemeanLion-]

@@thegamerbrotherman2399 yeah, me too.

[@randylee2549]

Looking at an 86 ta 305 5 speed now. 43000 miles mint. Wish me luck,

[@NemeanLion-]

@@randylee2549 Good luck 👍

[@ClellBiggs]

Ford went for straight line speed, Chevy went for handling, and Pontiac went for balance. I would go for the Trans Am.

[@traxxasrcfun]

Isnt that what a muscle car is about? Straight line speed? You want a car that handles get a miata or some shit

[@Luke-lw9dg]

dakota croasdale These are pony cars, they aren’t JUST about straight line speed.

[@roberttaylor6030]

I had a 1985 Mercury Capri RS. I loved that car it was a better version of the Mustang GT in my opinion. Basically the same car but looked a little cooler with the dual hood intakes and the ground effects package.

[@slickwillyracing4020]

I absolutely LOVE the Capri!!! I own 2 of them. An 86 and an 82!

[@roberttaylor6030]

@@slickwillyracing4020 Sweet, I wish I still had mine.

[@kennydemartini2169]

Those quarter mile times are bogus! I bought an IROC in '85. The best it did was 14:95 with lots of tweaking. Trans Am's never beat me. They have no grill to let air in. Mustangs, especially the much lighter LX model, usually kicked my ass by a half second at the track. The Mustangs have a much better exhaust system and had better rear end gears.

[@MrJett1971]

Until ‘87, there was virtually no difference between a 5.0 LX and a GT, unless you’re talking about the hatch vs the sedan. IIRC, the sedan knocked off about 250 lbs or so.

[@ohioyodertoter6827]

these retro videos are awesome thank you for posting them !!!

[@GeraciBlues]

Spent many weekends at that DQ and going to 75-80 drag strip. DQ is still there in Odenton and 75-80 is just outside Frederick MD. Drag strip is there but no longer in operation. 1/8th mile track, Friday night Classic car night. This old video was a trip down memory lane!

[@blaketindle4703]

The nostalgia hits hard on this one!

[@xdavstratx]

"high output" 190hp lol

[@MidnightinSavannah]

That what happens when you put a chevy engine in a Pontiac.

[@afranca1825]

dgr_1996 30 years later and a standard Chevy SUV is ~430hp and the Camaro zl1 is 600hp lol

[@PlausableApple4]

dgr_1996 We're talking 1985 here.

[@TheTmaaan55]

I get that in 85 190hp was good, but everyone seems to forget that cars of the 60's were pushing well over 400hp. So for the year 190 was a lot, but nobody would have been impressed when comparing them to the 15 year old cars

[@331Grabber]

That 85 4BBL 302 in the Mustang would blow away the old 68 J code 4BBL 302 even with far less compression. There were some freaks in the 60s like the 427 side oilers and 426 HEMIs and chevy COPO 427s but most of those 60s 400 HP cars were closer to 300 HP by post 1973 standards. You see it in their trap speeds. Pretty sure by 1985 the Chevy and Ford small blocks were making a decent bit more power than they did in the 60s.

[@frmula1fan51]

"[The Mustang] may be all over the track, but it sure is fast." Amen brother! Truer words were never spoken.

[@FL50ssp]

And it still holds true today. Would have thought by now frod could have figured out how to design a better chassis to compete with GM.

[@johnnysullivan436]

When even fast cars were slow

[@jimmycline4778]

They felt very fast back then, they actually were quick, and the 87 grand national was a beast! Most of G.M. Cars and trucks were very sexy looking some of the best looking G.M. Cars came from the 80s

[@johnnysullivan436]

@Catholic Firefighter or cars with internal combustion engines for that matter

[@kalel33]

@Catholic Firefighter There will be a point where a car can be so quick because of the tires.

[@Len1977gt]

This was right after emissions laws became standard

[@kalel33]

@@Len1977gt The first emissions standards were imposed 1977 and then stricter in 1981. These came four years after the cars were supposed to be already following the standards.

[@Quietbut_Deadly]

Mustang guy : And disc brakes up front Trans Am guy : So don't mention 'em IM WEAK

[@bryantg7641]

My second car ever was a black, '84, 5 speed, Fox body, and I loved it to death (almost several times, literally) !!!

[@1VaDude]

I almost fell in love when I saw the 1985 Mustang GT. It was a beautiful car and - along with the IROC-Z - was proof that performance was coming back to Detroit.

[@jimmyparris9892]

I agree. '85 is when it all seems to have started taking shape. I had just started driving. I've read a lot of comments about how these speeds and 1/4 mile times aren't that fast, but this younger generation doesn't realize that this budding technology is what laid the groundwork for our newer cars. In the early 70's there were government restrictions on how much horsepower a car could have. It was due to the oil shortage or gas crises or some other govt. concocted crap. As a result, most cars of the mid 70's to early 80's were underpowered and slow as molasses. When the 85 Mustang GT came out, it was like a breath of fresh air. I've noticed a lot of folks talking about how fast the 5.7 liter (350 c.u. to us old timers) Chevy was but, evidently I lived in an alternate universe because, I had a stock '83 El Camino with the 5.0 (305 c.u.) and I could outrun 350's all day long. I couldn't come close to beating a GT though. The only GM car I know of that could even run with the Mustang GT was about '87 or '88 when Pontiac came out with the GTA. It was every bit as fast as the Mustangs GT's of those years. And back then, if you wanted a car that was quick off the line, you went with a manual transmission. There was a noticeable difference in a Mustang GT with a manual vs. automatic transmission. The GTA evidently didn't know that though. When I drove it is when I realized that an automatic transmission could be just as quick off the line as a manual. Good Times.

[@331Grabber]

Jimmy Parris 1985 GT was great if you went with the 5-Speed. The autos didn't get the roller cam, headers or 4 BBL intake. they had essentially the same 2 barrel intake from 79 with central fuel injection. Only made 165 HP. I think later in that year they added the tube headers off the stick shift car and up the horsepower rating to 180. My 210 HP manual GT felt like a rocket compared to the auto.

[@1VaDude]

The automatic Mustang GT was a lot slower because most of them had a "detuned" version of the 5.0L (actually......technically a 4.9 and not a 5.0; but I digress) or 302 V8. The 5-speed GT had the "5.0L H.O." with the 4bbl carb, while the automatic GT coupes came with the "5.0 EFI" used in the F-150 pickup truck and the Crown Victoria. If I recall correctly, the difference in 1985 was about 15 horsepower. For 1986, the Mustang GT also got fuel injection and went from 210 hp up to 215. In 1987 things got even better - as Ford improved the "5.0L H.O." and horsepower went up to 225. My first new car was a 1988 Mustang GT with a 5-speed. I could eat Camaro and Trans Am coupes for lunch - except for the IROC-Z and Trans Am GTA - which both were offered with the larger "5.7 TPI" (350) V8. Chrysler even put forth some pretty vicious front-drive performance cars too - but they were not the same. Even so, a 4cyl turbocharged Chrysler Lazer or Dodge Daytona could hold its own. They just were not as durable or fun as a rear-drive V8 car.

[@1VaDude]

Yep; huge difference between the 5.0 EFI and the 5.0 H.O. engine!

[@beardedman8884]

Fox body mustangs are easily one of the worst designed bodies of any car.

[@negativeindustrial]

When I first started racing in HS, these were the cars to beat.

[@BigAlWillis]

til the grand national came out. turbo 6 cyl

[@FlowmasterStang]

Jason Voorhees Yea but weren’t those expensive at the time?

[@hotrodpawns]

i have owned all 3 of those vehicles at the same time in 1991-1999. A 1986 Ford Mustang hatchback 5.0L, 1986 Pontiac Firebird ws6 (the ws6 was added in 1987), and 1991 Chevrolet Camaro 5.7L. Out of the 3, i still have one, and it is the Firebird. Better ride, better handling faster than the other two. Over the years, the Firebird has received many upgrades, a new corvette engine, transmission, rear end and new engine management computer took the place of the old outdated 5.0L factory Chevrolet power train, as well as a new forward facing ram air induction hood. On the inside, new (at the time) top of the line heated 2002 Firebird leather seats, in dash dvd/gps/Bluetooth entertainment center, with remote start/alarm system. It's been updated to today's technology with everything you can want, and none of the crap you don't want. The Midnight Glossy Black paint job with the red scanner light on the front is pure icing on the cake. 😉

[@LukeMcGrew]

Need to get me some gatorbacks!

[@05gtdriver]

+Luke McGrew I believe they are being reproduced in the Mustang 15" size , but they're like $300 each!

[@Daehawk]

+05gtdriver Ya Had to buy a set for my Trans-Am back then..damn expensive at the time.

[@gracien2008]

My 90 Supra came equipt with them fromthe factory, replaced them with expensive Eagle GSC's and havent invested in Goodyear tires since. Hankooks on it to this day :)

[@tscooter22]

And they roared like a SOB. Man, those tires were loud -- especially on the F bodies and Vettes of the day.

[@scdevon]

Nice dig by the Mustang (by 1985 standards) in the low end. It seems like the 5.0 came on with so much more torque in the low RPM ranges especially the 4V engine. That Holley 4 barrel worked like magic on that 5.0 Ford.

[@dodgeguyz]

Great video. everything came out as expected. the Mustang is a runner, and the GM`s are for corners. Had a 86 Mustang GT factory stripper car, only a radio. ran 14.0 with a set of street slicks. Love the old comparisons. BTW, anyone else notice the inflation from then to now? $11k for a new 5.0 mustang, now were talking $40k!!!!! Holy crap!

[@melrose9252]

dodgeguyz You could get an LX slow back 5.0 that was lighter and faster than the GT. This was also used as the Mustang patrol units.

[@Kjraider2009]

The LX was faster, which is crazy, but thats how it worked. On inflation, that is what will happen when your government and the fed print $15 trillion dollars out of thin air in a span of about 10 years.

[@440magwolf]

They're faster than the gm cars, but it seems like it's pretty much an economy car with a big motor. Higher center of gravity, short wheelbase, not real sleek. A lot of the cars In the drag racing videos that crash are foxbodies, that's probably why.

[@kevinbarry7475]

$11,000 from 1985 in today's money is $31,250

[@ckelley63]

What a blast from the past, I was able to ride and and run around in new examples of both the IROC an 89 and my buddies brand new 85 Mustang GT they were both hoots to drive good times for shure!!

[@nickdulak1837]

Sold GT's new 84-87. The carburated 85's were the fastest.

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

Agreed, 85 Were Probably the Fastest of the Fox Body,s too bad the 8.8 Didn't come out to 86

[@XHikotheproX]

Thanks for sharing that knowledge

[@michaelcowin6442]

87 could not dust an 85, but an 88 was close to being even. That mass air flow added did almost bring back the torque where it was with the 85, plus the weight reduction helped.

[@metallicafan416]

@@michaelcowin6442 yes remove the air silencer and bump up the timing and an 87 laughed at an 85

[@seansullivan4709]

My '88 LX kicked ass back then. A friend and I both had ours up to 130 mph. He had the 160 mph speedo in his.

[@Jerrypintoswe]

Best Motorweek video ever.

[@relaxitsme_alex9104]

2:27 did he just say automatic like we were going to be wowed.

[@GoldenGrenadier]

No he said it that way to contrast against the other two manuals.

[@TxMx214]

That’s how camaro auto trans boys always say it-with pride they’re car is an auto like it’s a big deal. Real men drive manual trans.

[@aiphomati3370]

@@TxMx214 Iroc Z wasn't offered with Manual trans unfortunately

[@Esdeath_0001]

The 350's torque for a manual transmission of the 80s was high and would grenade itself if you did a hard take off.

[@adamspitfire]

The T5 in the mustang was used on the 5.0 iroc but couldn't take the torque of the 350 and gm didn't want to take sales off the plastic fantastic power rat shit that was the corvette

[@epa316]

0:40 the Mustang GT was already at the Dairy Queen when the two GM cars finally showed up, because it smoked them.

[@GOBRADON502]

Because they gave him a head start 😂😂😂😂

[@mickeywilson938]

They brought it in on a row back.they didn't want to record that part.

[@asrr62]

lol nice eyes. i diddnt even notice that lol.

[@Honk1117]

5.7 350 make a mustang cry like the bitch it was

[@Honk1117]

@Joe Mamma seriously Joe, I bought a new iroc in 89 it out ran all mustang vettes 454 trucks they even hauled one Stang in with Slick's had to race him twice said he missed a gear

[@derjoh1986]

R.I.P. Pontiac . 😭

[@robmartin5382]

To all the idiots saying a new Accord would beat these etc. etc. etc. Nobody cares. Back then the Accord had a whopping 85hp or so and these are just stock comparisons. We all know with some money thrown at them, they’ll go as fast as you can afford and look better while doing it. Don’t forget the coolness of nostalgia that these new cars (appliances) won’t ever have. So basically, even though your new Hyundai might be quicker than these, you’re still a tool in today’s world! BTW… fastest street legal car in the world is a 5000+hp 1984 Hurst Olds. Look it up.

[@charliestuckey-outtamymind4279]

"I'd rather eat worms than ride in a Chevy." Those 5.0 Mustangs were pocket rockets (if you could hold the tires on the pavement!)

[@tonymaradetto887]

Since we all have to drive the "same speed limit" Pontiac wins on looks alone.

[@youngchevyboy605-5]

Looks of a Pontiac add about 15 mph

[@GrantsDad]

Tony Maradetto I honestly think it gets third place in looks between these cars

[@Lucas-yi4bm]

if you think a firebird looks better than a iroc, and both cars are the same generation, all i can feel is sorry for you

[@GrantsDad]

MasonIsMissing 64 imo mustang looks the best followed by the camaro but the firebird looks like the camaro with a cheap body kit so it’s last for me

[@lobsterwhisperer7932]

Cant you guys have the retro marathons on a constant loop, its such a great show.

[@jasonpegram2114]

superb acting here

[@davect01]

My how far we gotten. High School girlfriend had a black IROC with T Tops. What a great ride. ☺

[@jamesnoble8205]

The car or her? Ha ha, see what I did there?

[@jamesnoble8205]

@Retro Lover :-)

[@Jesusislord3334]

My 89 Iroc was a handling machine my Friend. Was not as quick as the GT but the Ford was no match as far has handling went. And that Red Iroc was one beautiful Car. Ahead of its time for sure. Great memories!

[@michaelcowin6442]

Mustangs sat too high for good handling, but lowered they drove like in rails.

[@coonscrib]

never thought i would hear iroc and sophisticated in the same sentance lol

[@900108Chale]

If mullets where a thing back then, anything could be sophisticated...

[@bloolouboyle]

IROC-------It Runs on Cologne !

[@900108Chale]

@@bloolouboyle LOL! Always "Smelly"

[@stephenslusser2895]

SerenityNow, I guess you're too young to have heard about what was at that time, a very sophisticated design in the IROC's TPI, but that was 34 years ago after all ! Hey, maybe I'm your Pop? Ask your Mama, maybe she'll remember me, if she wasn't too drunk !

[@chadbrattain7185]

@@bloolouboyle yeah to cover the shit smell of the peace of shit.

[@radioguy1620]

when Mustang ruled the earth. least a 1/4 mile of it . saved the aftermarket industry

[@350Zquicksilver]

Pre KZbin... I would watch this with my dad on PBS/channel 9 in the 80's-90's in the St.Louis area. Good memories!

[@Vercus100]

The Camaro was 3500 pounds? Holy crap those things were heavy. 400 pounds more than the Mustang.

[@ss_whole]

The IROC was best looking by a mile.

[@TurboTurdBurglar]

Super Kyle 🤢🤢

[@charlesrobinson5709]

I Absolutely Love all 3 of these cars, Growing up I owned A 1989 Mustang GT, It was such A fun car to drive and the sound was A head turner, 2 and half inch Aluminized pipe with Cherry Bombs turned Backwards, I was an 18 year old punk that I thought could outrun everyone. I was wrong, What fun days those were, Great Video,

[@scottb8175]

I remember how fast the fuel gauges would drop just driving any of those carburetor V-8's normally.....my 5L would go through 1/8 tank starting and warm up on freezing cold mornings - before I even backed out of the driveway.....and ran like dog poop until a few miles warmed it up fully....there's another 1/8 gone....meanwhile, my mom's 88 1.6L 116 hp 5-spd Corolla would go 400 miles on $9....less than what I spent on just one short drive to work....and it beat a Vega with a 327 swap once in a street race....

[@wreckful]

And yet they don't write songs about mommy's Corolla...

[@scottb8175]

@@wreckful Odd, seeing how Mommy's Corolla of today out-accelerates Magnum P.I.'s Ferrari of the 70's....

[@wreckful]

@@scottb8175... But today's Camaro accelerates faster then today's Corolla, so my point stands.

[@Flying_GC]

@@scottb8175 lol, no they don't out accelerate a 308 GT0 of the 70s even today. Corollas even in JDM spec which are the fastest of them are not remotely fast.

[@scottb8175]

@@Flying_GC I read a road test where the 2-valve 308 did a 17.1 sec 86 mph 1/4 mile...that's pretty pathetic for a 3L V-8 exotic. The Corolla XRS's 1.8L 2ZZ best 1/4 ET for the standard transmission is just under 16 seconds....

[@steiger256]

Can't believe them cars are 32 years old already, Man how time flys

[@erikhertzer8434]

steiger 256 ...those cars

[@JulioLopez-xz5kx]

Time flies

[@Irondiesel]

Ok stop!!! I'm gonna start crying.... I WANNA GO BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nephetula]

I can attest to the IROC-Z cornering like a slot car. I walked away from many BMW's and 'Stangs with mine, and it was funny to see them sliding off the road or doing 180's on the twisties trying to keep up. The 2.90 stock rear certainly did NOT help acceleration, though it would still do a 0-60 in 6.6 seconds..