1988 Greg Louganis Team USA and Xiong Ni - Battle it out - Platform Diving Olympic Games

[@aks7153]

Never forget Louganis and Xiong. This show I watched for the first time since my dad bought TV in 1988

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Glad you liked the video! It is so fun to watch things we haven't watched in years! Great memories!

[@wip1664]

What country were you in 1988? My first color TV was back in the mid '70's, USA. A Mitsubishi... don't think they are making video related stuff now.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

@@wip1664 It is so interesting to read these posts from people all over the world! It makes us realize how different the world was and is from country to country! I was living in Argentina at that time and we didn't get a color TV until Mid 70s either. Apparently they were already available in 1956 lol.

[@huskymrsp8151]

My eyes! What did I just see? Judges’ eyes must hurt more.

[@shamc8325]

DISGUSTING JUDGES DENYING THIS AMAZING CHINESE ATHLETE WHO PERFECTED ALL HIS DIVES GIVING HIM LOW SCORES OF 7 AND 7.5 WHEN HE DESERVED A 10! This video proves that GREG LOUGANIS SHOULDN’T HAVE WON. This is so heartbreaking and nauseating! Especially with the Judge from Sweden and Zimbabwe… THEY DENIED THIS BOY HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE IN HISTORY.

[@plumeria66]

I agree. The Swedish judge gave him a 7.5 for a perfect dive with zero splash. Ridiculous.

[@johnhazel3551]

lol you no nothing about diving. Greg won this and should have won by a bigger gap. Put on glasses

[@lazz3036]

@@johnhazel3551shut the fk up. Usa always cheating

[@rlai2201]

@@johnhazel3551perhaps you should pay for some better lenses. Unless you are blinded… by your ignorance, you shouldn’t even be watching any competition

[@lithograhp]

I agree with u!

[@watermagic_fun]

I'm for Greg but the judging was too dirty. Almost the same marks for 207C makes a lot of questions. I believe that's why Xiong was given a gold on 3 meters in Sidney instead of Fernando Platas... Thanks for uploading!

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Great point

[@u982245]

xiong was robbed for the gold, exact the same way greg was robbed for the gold in the 76 Olympics by dibiasi

[@ilovesuisse1]

It’s Sydney, not Sidney.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

yikes!@@ilovesuisse1

[@chihhungtseng10]

Xong Ni is youngest gold medalist on platform diving, period. This will be remembered forever. His gold medal was stolen.

[@danlan3433]

In 1988 Olympics diving the judges were not able to be objective and gave the gold medal to the wrong country. Biased beyond belief. Thank you Xiong of China you will always be the champion in 1988!

[@tracychoi6143]

Thank you for uploading this video. That’s why ppl said the judges has bias.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

that's for sure! Now judges are paid judges, trained and certified, and all from different countries so it should be better!

[@nachcam]

The Chinese guy DOESN'T SPLASH!!!!! Amazing

[@praksis77]

judges robbed xiong's gold medal. What a shame!

[@rassbombo8136]

Totally.

[@Elfan97-ec1uk]

Absolutely shameful!

[@giantusa]

This video is a bit misleading. Xiong did not do as well in the first five dives. Louganis deserved the win, although Xiong certainly outdive him in the final 5 dives.

[@sadmanahmed9568]

@@giantusa Louganis was outscoring him. That's the reason the people above believe it was biased.

[@lookism23]

Xiong Ni's execution is crystal clear...for his age he did superb performance 🪙🪙🪙

[@zenthumb]

First time to see this event of Xiong Ni in 1988. I was amazed that even at his young age he already had the maturity and calmness in his dives. So focused and consistent. =)

[@FlipnripDIVING]

You are right! He was so focused.. The judges were just more used to seeing Greg around...

[@nicolasmachiavelo3981]

@@FlipnripDIVINGnon Greg a perdu de loin malheureusement l’autre etait chinois,triste réalité !

[@FlipnripDIVING]

tu as raison!@@nicolasmachiavelo3981

[@optimusmech5313]

Oh man! I have been searching for this all over the net for decades!!!! Most epic performance by xiong ni. The English commentary on this video was absolutely epic. I still feel xiong won this and louganis was favoured. If you have the English version, please upload!!

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Glad you found us and the meet you were searching for! I do not have it in english right now but people send me videos all the time!! I will post it as soon as I receive it. All of the fans who have commented on this video seem to think the same thing you do! Xiong should have won it.

[@JM-zk9ou]

Love Louganis, but Xiong should have won this

[@scbluechuan3748]

It's obvious who is the real winner, shame on the judges.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

It seems like everyone who commented thinks exactly like you do!

[@jamesbo2796]

Remember watching this when I was a kid, opened my eyes that Olympic was actually rigged. Greg water splash can’t even make it to top 10 in today standard. Xiong and China was robbed of Gold medal, pure biasness, that’s why the scoring system was changed in today scoring standard Greg will not even crack top 10. Xiong was class if its own.

[@julesvern-u4e]

is it me or were Ni's dives better? Like every one of them. What am I missing here? his dives all looked 100% flawless.

[@drjowjow]

Most people also think the same. But china has since then dominated this sport and their national diving standards surpass that of the olympics. The muricans dont stand a chance today against chinese divers.

[@happyforest9948]

The judges should be named and shamed

[@TRUNGNGUYEN-bz9th]

Very excellent uploading this video.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Thank you!!

[@TRUNGNGUYEN-bz9th]

@@FlipnripDIVING You're welcome.

[@mjremy2605]

Xiong Ni is amazing. That 2.9 difficulty second dive is perfection itself. Whiplike snap to it. Very clean entry. Just wow! At such a young age too. Xiong was only 14 yrs old competing against a muscular and experienced athlete, Greg Louganis aged 28 yrs. So very impressive for this young kid. Greg of course was superb, poetry in motion. These dives are so dangerous with their heads and toes coming 6 inches from a concrete platform. One tiny mistake and you break your head with that force.

[@m.w4649]

Those judges should be all ashamed of themselves.

[@sushiking1965]

Excellent video

[@Apex-cd5vz]

Those judges were blinded by Douganis’ fame. Xiong Ni clearly deserves the gold.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

You are not the only one with that feeling!

[@ilovesuisse1]

Louganis.

[@timothymok8242]

@@Apex-cd5vzThat’s exactly what I was thinking! They were doing the same dive and Xiong Ni was obviously much better. He was bullied and denied.

[@rlai2201]

Xong Ni was a lot better!

[@andromedaperseus954]

7.5 any of these dives? You kidding me? These judges should be fired!

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Ha, everyone thinks like you. Now the judges are FINA judges, they are trained and held accountable! Live and learn.

[@Boymanjusri]

Are you kidding me? None of Louganis’ last three dives are on par with Xiong’s last three dives, they all have big to huge splashes, yet Louganis got 8.5 to 9.0 and Xiong mostly only get 7.5 to 8 foe his near perfection dives and entries. What the hell was going on? Xiong should have easily won the gold here were the judges not blind or biased.

[@shunhaolee2580]

Because only 'them' can be the winner, nobody in the world can be better than 'them'! 'They' are so arrogant and biased!

[@np502roosevelt5]

Nothing special, American special, sucker's from the west all over the places

[@jehu8822]

Because he is Chinese

[@lewismatthews4247]

Anti asian racism has existed for a long time

[@blanketstarry7725]

splashes are not the only part of diving. Along with all the other parts of diving that judges look at, one has to consider how body size/type affects the size of the splash. Xiong was very small and slender, making splashless dives much easier. If you look at Xiong dives in slow motion, many of them were under-rotated or over-rotated, yet still left no splash to speak of.

[@kumaranina1669]

Oh my,just now i see this video.And the chinese driver is amazing driver.

[@Elfan97-ec1uk]

His name is Xiong Ni! He should be remembered !

[@chocoluvluv]

You mean “diver”

[@shatin3595]

熊倪 不管怎样 你永运是这場比赛的皇者 美欧的不恥行為 並不能掩盖你的完美動作 雖然对你不公平 但你為我们的国家留下非常好的榜样 永运記著你

[@phomackenzie4058]

The dirty trick extends to 2024

[@rlai2201]

Yay… Americans cheaters never change 😊

[@HangLe-ym5hf]

The Swedish judge should be fired for giving such low scores to Xiong and vice versa to Louganis. The judges were definitely biased.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Diving is so subjective, even in age group diving.

[@capiztirzo2724]

The Swedish obviously had a crush on Greg Louganis. Who would’nt be, with that handsome sexy body.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

@@capiztirzo2724 Haha you think?

[@Marketoromagnolo]

@@capiztirzo2724 I hope for the judge he din't go to bed wih him,,,,

[@Apex-cd5vz]

Agreed

[@signslip4925]

3 1/2 inward tuck by Louganis was perfection 🥰

[@biucamel266]

His head hit the spring board and still won, how good could that be! Scoundrel judges

[@rlai2201]

Too much splash from Greg but Xong was spectacular!

[@rachelalexandra9818]

What a body...holy hell. An icon of my childhood. This man was huge back then. Xiong Ni was amazing, too.

[@calds6705]

👀

[@allowedme]

@rachelalexandra9818 yes Xiong Ni was amazing not Louganis.

[@NS-dt2bd]

Love Greg but Xiong is definitely the winner here.

[@善惡賞罰]

我認了，連運東都是黑暗的😳😳😳

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Right!

[@ilu516]

被明目张胆抢走的金牌！

[@madonnacicone4944]

The unforgettable competition. Both Ni and Louganis are best diver of all time. But in this match I think Ni is better.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Ni never got the recognition he should have. I am going to look to see if I have more videos of him. And yes! you are right, they are both so good!

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Thank you for the link! I watched the video.. That it was very interesting. I can post a link on the info of the video. I could try posting the video but I doubt they will let me.

[@lindaselander9602]

Na, your vision is blurred

[@lindaselander9602]

​@@FlipnripDIVINGI disagree 😞

[@streetsailor]

Awesome comparison! Glad I wasn't judging....

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Haha! Not kidding!

[@wileecoyote671]

The Chinese kid was much better. He jumps just as high, as good or better form, finishes his rotation sooner, opens up and stretches out earlier, and had clean, vertical ripped entries on every dive. Yikes.

[@wilsonwu5046]

It’s such a shame for the judges 🤬

[@hairulhr1014]

Loncatan terakhir atlet China begitu bagusnya tapi kok bisa ya judga dari Zimbabwe ngasi nilai cuma 70 terkesan dicurangi

[@jlbs2126]

Day light robbery ,,so sorry for Xiong Ni

[@FlipnripDIVING]

that is what everyone is saying!

[@vince_emeka]

For me, Xiong Ni was the real winner.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Yep! For 99.9% of or viewers!

[@fannyliang9617]

agree

[@alembess9129]

Was this the Olympics that judges were charged in court due to merely 7s for Xiong Ni? Xiong Ni was spectacular! He's way better than his opponent.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

I never heard of the judges being taken to court. That is very interesting.

[@lewismatthews4247]

Xiong Ni’s gold was stolen from him. Louganis likely got pity points because he hit his head from his previous dive. He made such a grave error and still won, the favoritism was absolutely ridiculous.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

all the fans who commented seem to think the same thing as you do. Glad judges are now officially trained by FINA to be objective!

[@ashleysilver5594]

Absolutely. The judges are nearly all European 5 out of 7 European judges and underscoring the Chinaman when he was clearly superior.

[@mstraction]

Chinaman....really?? Wow...just Wow..@@ashleysilver5594

[@Boymanjusri]

Xiong Ni was the real winner.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

That is sure what everyone thinks!

[@danomarquez]

I agree

[@nicolasmachiavelo3981]

Encore heureux la question ne ce pose pas !

[@earlmateo7422]

The last jump was for the Chinese... I repeated many times... how the fuck it happened?! Are they blind 😂

[@ilovesuisse1]

Greg Louganis is the GOAT of diving. The most elegant diver ever.

[@stupedigo]

Greg is Chinese diving team’s founding father

[@vaar2742]

Both men were brilliant, the best in the world and I love Greg Louganis for so many reasons other than diving but in all honesty Xiong was the winner here..his dives were smooth as silk, flawless compared to Greg's splash. Both great but the gold should have gone to Xiong.

[@ccdivelive]

Diving judging is very subjective. I don’t know since when they started using fina judges at international competitions. Judges look at take off hight, distance, forms, movements in the air, come out and entry to determine a score. Xongni had everything. I compared 1984 and 1988 platform judging. 1984 judging was much looser and divers got a lot of 9s with much worse dives. I am glad that now the system is better. US was dominating the sport until the 80s. Louganis is a legend. He has power and grace. My children are divers and met him twice. Xongni was superb in 1988 Olympics. He is the winner of that game in my heart!

[@chocobunch2007]

camera wont lie....this was plain robbery from the judges...the gold should be given to the deserving athlete.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

If I could get a "like" for all of the statements that say the same thing you said... my video would go viral lol. Thank you so much for commenting!

[@uhu597]

10:43, So that’s a 7-point-worth dive, according to the Zim judge???!!! How could there not have been any uproar from the majority of the people, especially fellow judges?!

[@vielyn1064]

Huge splash with 86 scores. U must be joking

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Subjective sport!

[@shunhaolee2580]

Because only 'them' can be the winner, nobody in the world can be better than 'them'! 'They' are so arrogant and biased!

[@FlipnripDIVING]

@@shunhaolee2580 not sure it works that way. Judges are people from all over the world

[@lunatune3714]

Well when you way 100 pounds you generally won't create much of a splash. Only a spectator would judge on splash alone.

[@lewismatthews4247]

@@lunatune3714 there are tinier women divers who create big splashes, weight has no bearing on technique

[@cindychen991]

I wasn’t one of those judges. But I know Xoing Ni was played much better than that US guy😮Not just the level of the skill and the manner too.

[@sabrinaymt]

xiong almost no splash but only 7.5? judges must be blind.

[@user-uuii]

當年我看台視轉播時真的被熊倪這一跳給震撼到，不過更震撼的是金牌竟然是給這個死玻璃？！

[@樂123]

Xiong Ni is the obvious winner after the last 3 flawless jump, something is very wrong here..........

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Everyone seems to think the same way!

[@lindaselander9602]

You need 🤓

[@xiaodai-p1t]

Wat???! How come there is a 7.0 for xiong ning in last jump??? Booooo

[@FlipnripDIVING]

haha that's what the entire world said

[@Ducati368]

The judges were either brided heavily by USA or simply amazed by Greg handsome face until they could made this kind of wrong judgement!

[@李惟楚]

熊倪是我们湖南人的骄傲，现在也已经是湖南省体委领导

[@faithalone2171]

Greg Louganis should not have won. Some judges cheated.

[@andrewbrand200]

Now, in 2024, days after the Paris Olympics on which China diving team swept all the eight gold medals, Chinese diving team responded to the "favor" of the judges in 1988 with a smile.

[@drjowjow]

I think the chinese made their national competiton standards so high that many consider the chinese national diving competition to be even more difficult than the olympics. Many of the international divers who made it to the olympics this year dont even stand a chance of getting selected in the chinese national team. They are just at a totally different level when it comes to this sport.

[@andrewbrand200]

@@drjowjow Indeed, just like Chinese table tennis. Many top players didn't even make the national team to represent China (because on the top 3 in the team can go) on Olympics, so they go abroad to represent other countries to play in Olympics.

[@raamyeiyash6922]

R u kiding me.....wth....the men from usa not even close to the chinesee men....chinese men a lot2 better than him....what a shame

[@happyforest9948]

Dirty trick as usual by the you-know-who. Great job that Ni finally won his Olympics Gold eight years later

[@raymondwong6826]

Those were the days, Western hypocrisies and shameless people are running the scoreboards.

[@lindee2606]

high old was Xiong Ni here he's like a kid.. like kid vs adult..

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Yes but that is how it is in diving. If you can do the dives you can dive with the older more experienced divers!

[@tigersolaris]

Watched this live in 1988

[@amyexner]

Sorry, Greg Louganis dives had higher difficulties and he in my eyes is the winner; nobody is better than Greg Louganis.

[@drjowjow]

Higher DD means nothing if execution isnt equally done well. The judging bias was very clear even from an outsiders POV. The swedish judge was particularly blatantly giving low scores to the chinese diver.

[@francisheperi4180]

No need to tell me who is more deserving of the gold medal. It's plain to see.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

It seems as though everyone is thinking the same thing.Thanks for your comment! I really appreciate it! Love the sport!

[@wip1664]

Both are winners. Had both the scores come out to exactly ???.??, then it is possible that they both get 🥇🥇. But it is highly unlikely that both scores would be same.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Yes! If they would have scored the exact same scores and the dives would have the same DD (degree of difficulty) they would get 2 gold medals!!

[@user-qx2rk7gu1u]

Shame on the Judges! Disgusting!

[@Marketoromagnolo]

Louganis is THE KING OF OLYMPICS

[@FlipnripDIVING]

you really like your Greg don't you?😍

[@Marketoromagnolo]

@@FlipnripDIVING yes, i am reading his biography, i knew his story, but didn t know how dramatic life he had. It reminds me the same happened to 84 olympics champ marck shultz.

[@allowedme]

@Marketoromagnolo you must be gay.

[@imaginepeacerecords9791]

Everyone saying Greg lost but his last dive’s difficulty was rated 3.4 where as Xiong’s was rated 3.2. That is why he won. I’m not trying to take anything from Xiong, obviously he was great.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

you are right Greg's DD was higher for his last dive..But on some of the other dives Xiong didn't seem to get as much as he should have... but you know.. I went to diving meets in the 90s... even at junior level, and saw the same thing... when divers were known by the judges, they were given the benefit of the doubt and scored just a little more than a diver they had never seen before.... I think it is just human nature..

[@wip1664]

Scores are close 1 point difference. Both are winners. I wonder if body type/frame makes a difference in the entry into pool?? Chinese divers are mostly smaller/lighter in frame. As are women divers compared to men. Divers can alter techniques based on their build and weight, but gravity and the water are the same for all divers.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

@@wip1664 Yep! Totally right... And it is such a subjective sport!

[@zulaynavapinerua1997]

@@wip1664 I didn't need to write a comment. Totally agree with yours. We can see Louganis splash is most time vertical and not scattered, but always bigger due to his solid complexion. No doubt that both divers gave an unforgettable display of perfection.

[@allowedme]

@imaginepeacerecords9791 Regardless of the degree of the difficulty, Xiong had a 10 dive and they gave him a 7 and 7.5. you must be blind like those judges. the eye test tell me who had the better dive.

[@milani508]

Rip the all the judges...

[@faterrorism]

Apparently Xiong is doing better

[@許美妮-r4q]

不乾不淨的金牌

[@vivida7160]

Louganis's last dive didn't get much height, his tuck was quite loose and he was a little late into the water. His feet going into the water at the very end of the dive is the exact moment the water splashes, not the moment his torso hits the water nor the moment water surges upward after the body is completely underwater. His last dive was simply weak and under-rotated. He had AIDS and it was the tenth dive in his secomd competition. That is no reason to give the dive good scores (and just enough to give him the gold). Evidently rigged.

[@raed7421]

Xiong Ni obviously . No doubt . Judges u had 1 job , to be fair !!

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Ha! That is so true! That is definitely the role of the judges

[@chakadoll9216]

The chinese got rob. He is the clear winner here.

[@davidjin6416]

最憋屈的一届奥运会跳水比赛，熊倪和谭良德就是那届冠军，只是输给了名气大的洛加尼斯

[@ashleysilver5594]

Cheating at its worst. Underscoring the Chinese. Disgraceful. Unethical European judges

[@chiuchinpeng4969]

竟然在全世界觀眾的面前把本是Xiong Ni的金牌，偷給了Louganis，無恥！

[@FlipnripDIVING]

I don't think judges were trained like they are now. :(

[@raymondwong6826]

This same American diver was given an Olympic gold for hitting his head on the diving board by the judges, apparently for his sportsmanship and bravery because he continued to compete and complete the event despite of his injury. What travesty and nonsense. Give him gold for sportsmanship and bravery, he deserves it, but not that gold for diving, he flopped.

[@noahlee252]

Dirty judges.

[@88feji]

Even taking into account Xiong Ni's size and weight, the splash is still ridiculously minimal .... that itself should give him the win .....

[@danomarquez]

Judges were out of their minds.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Politics.. Judges these days are trained and paid FINA judges. They have rules and shouldn't be influenced by the fact that they know a diver more than they know a new one...

[@debbiereha1739]

Louganis is the best diver ever. It’s beautiful to watch him. Both are wonderful, but Greg is THE MAN!!

[@user-qx2rk7gu1u]

How blind

[@lazz3036]

The cheater yeah. Damn the usa been cheating since the 80s savage

[@zhuangmiao3415]

熊倪就是男版全红禅！

[@funshine817]

It seems like everyone commenting are diving experts. 😂🤣 Has anyone bothered to notice that Greg's difficulty was often, not always, HIGHER than Xiong Ni? Also, Greg's 7th dive did not get high marks which led him to drop to second. The entry is not the only thing judges look for, as well. Just sayin'.

[@chenpeter2434]

这个美国运动员都不像外界传闻那么神奇，水平一般而已！跟中国运动员真的没法比！

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Greg Louganis made all his dives look effortless but you are right, chinese divers now a days are the best of the best!

[@awig2562]

I remembered watching it when I was a kid. Numerous reply showed that this Chinese athlete clearly performed better and was robbed by the judges.

[@小曾-s4c]

汉城奥运会的主题曲是最好听的

[@FlipnripDIVING]

In the US they always show videos of the Olympics with the same theme song. Not sure from what year.. but always the same

[@dennytsang6687]

看過那麼多的奧運跳水比賽，最黑暗就是這場！熊倪以近乎完美完成最後一跳，給予10分也不為過，zim 這個垃圾裁判，為何只比得7分？

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Back in the days judging seemed biais. We are lucky that now FINA has great judges!

[@johnhippisley9106]

7.5 for Xiong’s first dive?!

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Ha.. Judges must have looked somewhere else! Even now a days it would get 9s

[@sanawledrod1592]

I’m American what I see The last dive a little boy Chinese he did bester than American. Some times the judges too old can’t seen.

[@solofoodie4298]

熊倪跳得更好！瞎子都看得出来！

[@jamesrobinson2175]

I like Greg!!

[@yrnehoihc7514]

U.s.a. should be in 2nd place

[@FlipnripDIVING]

We hear you! Apparently everyone thinks the same as you do! Thank you for commenting!

[@vicenterosales1727]

Cada uno ve lo que quiere ver. No es Louganis.. juzgan politicamente a EEUU.

[@fyyh8111]

Those wrong doing judges are definitely bias and favoritism to an adult homosexual men instead of a teenage little kid. But one thing for sure if China is a bit smart than that go with 3.3 (or even 3.4) China will not just behind this kind of stupid just 1.15 points only.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

The diving world and judges sure have changed since then! And China has proven to be the Country to beat! Thanks for commentng!

[@ER_._.]

What a shame. Shame on the judges

[@FlipnripDIVING]

That is what most of the comments are saying... Judging diving is never easy that's for sure!

[@weewahgan6922]

Bull Shit. Louganis was shocked that he got 86 for the last dive. Just look at his body language when he come out of the water. Unfair. Xiong Ni is definitely fantastic and stable in all rounds. His dive is artistic. And you see that is why China is dominating all this time from 1988 onwards.

[@kon4447]

這個冠軍拿著心不虛嗎？評審亂給分！👎🏿👎

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Many people think like you! Judging seemed to be partial to Louganis. Thanks for commenting! Welcome to the channel!

[@mikeking4188]

Both were insanely good..should of been a tie , and cut the gold medal in 1/2.

[@FlipnripDIVING]

Haha good idea

[@yunuhsu3018]

明眼都看得出來熊尼跳的比較好