The classic battle between Elena Shushunova and Daniela Silivas from the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, Korea. Svetlana Boginskaya won bronze, and Brandy Johnson was the top American in 10th.
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@coltonhoward66113 жыл бұрын
A great battle between silivas and shushunova
@amirsanchez81933 жыл бұрын
The most intense duel in the history of women's gymnastic. The floor routine from Daniela was a 10+. Besides the final scores, both represented a duel of artistry & grace versus technicality & precision. Both were winners!
@denig2000ableАй бұрын
The best final ever 100%. I was glued to the tv. Routing for Daniela.
@oldskoolmedia22642 жыл бұрын
RIP Elena Shushunova
@JennaLeigh2 жыл бұрын
Daniela Silivas was so ahead of her time then! We're STILL seeing ladies compete her eponymous "Silivas" FX skill- the incredible double twisting double salto tucked!
@patpat4465 ай бұрын
Done first by Alevtina Prakhina at the Europeans in 1987.
@lucianjpf16373 жыл бұрын
I liked Shushunova and Silivas. They were so great 😃
11:52. I was so impressed when I saw this at the time. Shushunova was a great champion. RIP 🙏
@user-vy8dl1iz2q3 жыл бұрын
Советская школа гимнастики лучшая в мире!
@dennandrian98542 жыл бұрын
Benar
@saragrant97492 ай бұрын
The best at horrible abuse, influencing scores in their favor, making a mockery of the sport and its integrity in terms of equal treatment of athletes? Absolutely.
@OneWhoLivesThere3 жыл бұрын
Any time I see a gymnast start running I get all excited because I know that my jaw is about to drop. I'm not much for watching most "sports," but gymnastics never get old!
@joannayeo95453 жыл бұрын
So graceful and so beautiful, I wouldn't want to choose one over the other. Thank you for the upload x
@dougraddi9083 жыл бұрын
Great competition between Silivas and Shushunova
@lucianjpf16373 жыл бұрын
I am sad to know that the best Russian gymnast of the 1988 Olympics died at the age of 49 because of acute pneumonia. she was a star : Yelena Shushunova
@daisyw20852 жыл бұрын
She is my favorite of all times besides Nadia .. so sad she left us that young, will never be forgotten, a true gymnastic Queen 👸!
@JustJason1977 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD! I didn't know that! Jeez... Rest peacefully my dear :(
@saragrant97495 ай бұрын
Damn, it just proves you never know when you’re going to go.
@alicemcfarlane97172 ай бұрын
Apparently, her life was very sad & empty after the Olympics. After dedicating her entire life to gymnastics, there was nowhere left to go.
@relutmaxim5425Ай бұрын
....și la noi in Romania.... copilul unei mari,,Gimnaste,,...a decedat...... LAVINIA MILOȘOVICI 🙏🙏🙏......
@jadeyukifulАй бұрын
El mejor duelo de la historia de la gimnasia artística, nunca habra alfo similar
@patriziapace41693 жыл бұрын
These routines were about difficulty and agility, now they are about difficulty and power. No grace left.
@davewilson3584 Жыл бұрын
just watched my original VHS tape incredibule depth below the two on top RIP Elena Shushunova
@jennysheets3 жыл бұрын
RIP Elana S.
@nathancoleman7235 Жыл бұрын
It was great great having Mary Lou's commentary here(the 'wonder woman' of 1984).I miss the 1980s!
@cherrylove91422 жыл бұрын
Daniela Silivas so amazing and powerful ahead of her time , 2022 and gymnasts still use her moves
@johneescobar86523 жыл бұрын
gracias x subir el mejor duelo de la historia de la gimnasia
@evanwilliams64063 жыл бұрын
I liked this style because they let the pictures tell the story.
@kreul87363 жыл бұрын
thank you for uploading ! Is Oksana Omelianchik @11.02?
@kentiemacgymnastics98853 жыл бұрын
It sure is! She was the alternate for the team. In some other parts of the meet, you can see her interacting with the team on the floor.
@juanantoniomoreno3409 Жыл бұрын
"She is very attractive 15 yo".... My Gawd, that was horrible to listen .
@chicklit86043 ай бұрын
Bonginskaya she is so pretty.
@relutmaxim5425Ай бұрын
.....ce sacrificii sau făcut.... datorită acestor sportivi sau ce sacrificii au făcut acesti sportivi sa ne iubim in ciuda tuturor problemelor : cotidiene,politice,etc.....🥇🥇🥇🙋💐💐💐💐💐
@WendieMorgan2 жыл бұрын
Mary Lou Retton’s contribution to commentary gets a 0.
@lacypierce64873 ай бұрын
She didn’t even contribute that much, either.
@markb71632 ай бұрын
Agreed...can't stand listening to her! Like nails on a chalkboard!
@adrianj.k.40323 жыл бұрын
Bogi was so excellent here. I wish she was competing at 1984 or 1992 level instead, she'd have an easier go for gold. Here unless Silivas or Shushunova fell flat on their face (which was insanely unlikely), she'd always be third.
@christineharrelson48313 жыл бұрын
Bogi was 11 in 1984 and not even a senior yet.
@adrianj.k.40323 жыл бұрын
@@christineharrelson4831 I said 1984 or 1992 level, not literally in 1984. Had the level of competition not as high as 1988 she would’ve had a better shot at gold.
@volodymyrdolia65442 жыл бұрын
At 1984 level for sure, but even in her prime Bogi didn't have the difficulty to compete with both Miller and Gutsu. Gymnasts were throwing double layouts on Floor and full-in on Beam. And Gutsu's beam was a decade ahead of her time. So not a single chance for Boginskaya, except big falls from several competitors.
@parafan223 жыл бұрын
All around final featuring two gymnast 😂
@Cmc995Ай бұрын
Right, i wonder if there is any other broadcast that shows more of the gymnasts 😅🤦🏻♂️
@masonlovesroblox2 жыл бұрын
shushunova queen
@quickthinker75822 жыл бұрын
Why there was Romanian judge and no Russian judge???? But still good karma struck to Elena she won the all round champ.
@alicemcfarlane97172 ай бұрын
God, I miss the 80s... 😢
@hazelabdrabbo93933 жыл бұрын
So beautiful 👏🏻both deserve the gold medal 🥇 it was so close battle between both girls
@buckbeak7220 сағат бұрын
Rest in peace Elena Shushunova ♥️🤸🏼♀️
@jadeyukifulАй бұрын
Muy merecido 🎉🎉🎉te amo Yelena
@karlomorosin78803 жыл бұрын
It was the time of pleiad of excellent gymnasts: Shoushounova, Boginskaya, Silivas, Dobre, Szabo, Henrietta Onodi, Dörte Thümmler, Potorac, Dagmar Kersten; in male events: Artemov, Bilozerchev, Liukin (father of Nastia Liukin), Andreas Wecker, Yuko Iketani, Marius Gherman, Yuri Cecchi... Today we have no big name, except Simone Biles, Nile Wilson, Igor Radivilov and Sam Mikulak.
@saragrant9749 Жыл бұрын
It was the time of grossly biased judging. 10’s being thrown for completely undeserving routines, others being ridiculously underscored to keep them out of a medal. Good riddance to that time.
@kameliehagen6 ай бұрын
Et Mustafina ?????? Elle a fait ce que Biles ne fera jamais : être première des qualifications por le AA et les 4 finales
@saragrant97492 ай бұрын
@@kameliehagenand how many GOLD medals did she win? Right, ONE. Simone won THREE in one Olympics on her own! Simone doesn’t have to qualify first in every event, she makes sure it counts at the RIGHT time.
@laetitiarault43523 ай бұрын
So sad! I remember when she was young! But never forget Daniela ❤
@saragrant97492 ай бұрын
Right? 49 is too damn young, but it just shows you never know when your time will come.
@alicemcfarlane97172 ай бұрын
@saragrant9749 Yelena died young because she lacked an exit strategy. It was a familiar tale for many elite Soviet gymnasts... indeed, for many elite athletes full stop. Beyond coaching & commentating, there really werent that many options for a happy, fulfilling life after gymnastics. It was (& still is) the cost of complete dedication.
@user-vy8dl1iz2q3 жыл бұрын
Шушунова лучшая!Однозначно!
@user-ch6le5cj6p2 жыл бұрын
У Шушуновой вольные сложнее, элемент даже назван ее именем, который она тогда показала
@rosine85282 жыл бұрын
Nope
@paulagiliberto73862 жыл бұрын
I don't think so
@gorrillagardening36927 ай бұрын
Did Shushunova ever speak of her gymnastic career? Did her teammates speak of training/competing with her? I've never heard anything.
@alicemcfarlane97172 ай бұрын
Elena had a very sad, unhappy existence after gymnastics. The Soviet system kept her alcoholic decline very hushed up. However, her early demise should speak for itself. There simply wasn't anything left for her after gymnastics. It's a common plight for elite athletes: life AFTER.
@jirikyeo3 жыл бұрын
Silivas was completely underscored by Nellie on vault. A 9.8? Lol
@chitownlokito3 жыл бұрын
Did you see that too? Lol. Sha was hating and knew Sikivas was going to win so shendid what it has been done a lot by the Russian federation
@amandine22392 жыл бұрын
@@chitownlokito To obtain the final mark the highest and lowest scores are droped. So Kim’s score didnt count.
@cullerjones6 ай бұрын
Her vaulting is garbage. Honestly that is the score she deserved from all the judges. If an American or Bulgarian did that same vault they get a 9.7 at best. If the Soviet judge didn't stupidly give a higher score to the 2nd vault which was even worse, there wouldn't be anything to talk about. Lastly even if Nellie gave the same generous 9.9 two other judges also gave, the score of 9.95 is still the same. Nothing changes.
@MagicalMukhina5 ай бұрын
Agreed - Silivas was underscored - but then not really a surprise as Nellie was not a woman of integrity (in my view!)
@thesovgc2 ай бұрын
Nelli is such an icon for such an unabashed attempt at cheating 😍
@WittleHokie3 жыл бұрын
Who was the male athlete about to be interviewed at 46:11?
@belladingdong33963 жыл бұрын
Silivas was such a tumbling goddess. She is perfection. I think she deserved that 10 on floor.
@MissLilRedRooster2 жыл бұрын
"Let's not forget this very attractive 15 year-old.." 🤢
@ChloeVonTrapp Жыл бұрын
Came here for this comment. What a creep!
@nancyvargas83383 жыл бұрын
Yelena Shushunova ,Por siempre Grande!!! Admirable tu fuerza en cada una de tus rutinas,a casi 2 años de tu partida , dejaste huella imborrable !!! Bendiciones 🙏 para tí,dónde quiera te encuentres.✨👌 Gracias hermosa Yelena Shushunova ✨👍🌹👏👏👏👏🌹👏👏👏🌹👏👏❤️
@manogiu6 ай бұрын
Alguns jurados davam nota 10 mesmo com erros visíveis. A saída d trave da shushunova por exemplo
@catiaazevedo62053 жыл бұрын
With the current scoring code, shushunova would have won with a huge advantage.
@mikaroxana60623 жыл бұрын
Silivas the best!!!😍😍😍
@user-zi6zr9st5t2 жыл бұрын
Duo rivalries usr elena shushunova and svetlana boginskaya. And roumania daniela silivas with aurelia dobre.
@luiz4430Күн бұрын
Shushunova was the best!!!
@bryanfuerst32773 жыл бұрын
Wait sorry how did Yelena’s beam routine get 2 10s? Did I read that wrong?
@Momofoku3 жыл бұрын
Silivas should have won or results were tied. It was neli kim from USSR gave a 9.8 to silivas in the vault. Look at what happened in the individual apparatus finals, silivas got 3 golds... lol
@grumpyduck57123 жыл бұрын
Nelli was petty for giving Silivas a 9.8, but her score wasn't counted there. Out of the six judges, the highest and lowest scores were eliminated and the middle four was rounded up, which gave Silivas her score. Still, she should've won.
@cullerjones6 ай бұрын
@@grumpyduck5712 She didn't deserve to win. 9.95 is too high for her on vault. And she messed up beam, where she should have an advantage on Shushunova but blew it this day. Bela Karolyi who LOVES Silivas, and is her former coach, even said "she made 3 major wobbles on beam in front of the whole world and deserved a 9.8 max. Her 9.9 was a disgrace." Nuff said.
@patriciawilcox42904 ай бұрын
It was
@gaylebrantley814928 күн бұрын
Cannot understand how Biles cannot stick a vault landing and goes out of bounds on floor yet she scores higher than other gymnasts that stick their landings after performing very well on the apparatus. I respect Biles but I still am not much of a fan of the "powerhouse" gymnastics.
@patpat4465 ай бұрын
Damn, the Romanians were trying to freak out Shushunova during her vault. That was kinda cheap.
@Brancoveanu450Ай бұрын
That was one of her teammates. Listen to the commentary Plus you can see Elenas performances after. Couple of the podium, with major mistakes. Never done by an olympic champion
@davidnamaste31242 ай бұрын
Nelli Kim , I always admired your gymnastic and your commitment to gymnastic as a judge. I always loved 1988 olympic they made me fall in love with the sport. But honestly I never watch carefully... you gave a 9.8 to her first vault to make sure she would not have eaten then give a 9.9 to a less perfect one!!! shame on you. hope to this day you feel ashamed to crushed the dream ... I understand it was surely not easy probably pressed bu higher authority but honestly hope you can apology one day
@tracylatak29703 жыл бұрын
This is the wor see e coverage of any gymnastics event they barely showed any routines
@garrigproductions3 жыл бұрын
Silivas best ever!...
@ilovecake19803 жыл бұрын
I love Silivas, she is more artistic and remarkable! She just a slight lost, otherwise she could’ve won...
@bbatjargal1549 Жыл бұрын
The Big Red Machine - the Soviet Union Team's nick name!
@beambreaker2 жыл бұрын
God is there any other gymnasts that were at these Olympics? How unfair to the others who works so hard.
@chriscruciat24692 жыл бұрын
9.8 from the Soviet judge for Silivas on the vault. Enough said…😤
@TheMajesticice012 жыл бұрын
She was definitely a hater! Her second vault she gave her a higher score
@masonlovesroblox10 ай бұрын
it was on purpose. nellie kim wanted shushunova to win. it was obvious, that first vault was 9.9 MINIMUM.
@cullerjones6 ай бұрын
Her vaulting is garbage. Honestly that is the score she deserved from all the judges. If an American or Bulgarian did that same vault they get a 9.7 at best. If the Soviet judge didn't stupidly give a higher score to the 2nd vault which was even worse, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.
@cullerjones6 ай бұрын
@@masonlovesroblox If a Bulgarian or American did that vault they would get a 9.7 max. It was Silivas's very best, but she isn't a good vaulter. Her vault scores are only by her name, just like Shushunova's beam scores to some extent.
@davidnamaste31242 ай бұрын
@@TheMajesticice01 ridiculous
@paulouk833 жыл бұрын
Nelli kim couldn't really be more blatant could she 9.8 I think not
@davidnamaste31242 ай бұрын
ridiculous she should apologies
@chitownlokito3 жыл бұрын
Silivas should had won. RUSSIA back then had power over the scores but this was definitely Silivas Good medal. Just like Zsabo should had won over Mary Lou. They were both were over scored. Yeah Mary Lou, zsabo took one step and you took 20. The Romania’s were the true winners..🥇
Como en cualquier cosa....el político pasa por encima de todo.......10 significa perfección.....aqui se han dado notas de 10 ...pero de perfección NADA. MI OPINIÓN
@denisripeanu33253 жыл бұрын
En el ultimo aparato , no me pareció un 10 para shushunova .....
@batifay28303 жыл бұрын
y Silivas en asimetricas tampoco, que cae flexionada y los pies separados.
@denisripeanu33253 жыл бұрын
@@batifay2830 y que quierias ...que se cae con los pies rectos , o que...???....tu sabes de que estas hablando !!??
@batifay28303 жыл бұрын
@@denisripeanu3325 pues sí, sí sé de lo que hablo.
@denisripeanu33253 жыл бұрын
@@batifay2830 pues , yo diria que NO , tras leer tu comentario......mi opinión!!!
@beanovofilgueira15842 жыл бұрын
Sólo tienes que ver cómo Silvas baja la cabeza ,al ver el salto , sabía que tenía el 10 antes de dárselo
@paulagiliberto73862 жыл бұрын
Queen Silivas 👑 y luego el resto
@ajibumiserpongdamai15193 жыл бұрын
Shusunova such like robot
@juarezpessoa13983 жыл бұрын
Shoushouna is really an Diva e deserved the win.
@mateofesrivlaes7576 Жыл бұрын
i didn.t see any battle. silivas absolutely superior to shoushunova who had the support of the jugdes such as Nelly Kim kim ( she was under comnaneci)
@Brancoveanu450Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@SDonnini822 жыл бұрын
USSR and the power of dopping
@Cmc995Ай бұрын
Shushunova was beautiful and awesome but am I the only one who thinks Silivas should've have it? Nellie Kim being a judge and giving Silivas a 9.8 was a conflict of interest and we've seen how slithery nellie can be
@user-it7ro9uh1r2 жыл бұрын
Reyna silivas
@nipaipo361003 жыл бұрын
les juges donnaient trop de 10 à l epoque c etait n importe quoi
@Thebraids3 жыл бұрын
Effectivement, et les juges favorisaient certaines nations (l'URSS, la Roumanie et la RDA). Cela ne favorisait pas la crédibilité du sport.
@tayshaquay3 жыл бұрын
MLR is so annoying talking about herself constantly ughhhhhh
@christineharrelson48313 жыл бұрын
Hah yeah she's pretty into herself. Still is to this day.
@lacypierce64873 ай бұрын
She sounds like Minnie Mouse, too
@randomedits7325 Жыл бұрын
daniela was robbed
@unknown-lf6zx5 ай бұрын
She was amazing! They both were but she’ll always be my favorite gymnast! Gurl even rocked a perm and a robot move!
@chitownlokitoАй бұрын
Fu Kim, fu Elena and fu Mary Lou. All over scored. The Gold was for Silivas. The a Russian were corrupted still at that time.
@Ire3086 ай бұрын
No offense to Elena Shushnova's memory, but I think Daniela Silivas was robbed. I thought so when I watched this event live back in 1988 and still think so today.