199 - Running, overcoming challenges, and finding success | Ryan Hall

[@MichaelLoweAttorney]

Ryan Hall is an American treasure.

[@PoetWithPace]

Agreed 👍🏼

[@lean2281]

Gay

[@mephisto212]

"Just handle what is in front of you" So profound, so perfect.

[@imdadcodes]

"“I had a resting heart rate of 27 at my fittest” What an absolute beast 👏

[@PoetWithPace]

Crazy low, eh?

[@keliibandmann3282]

Wow

[@mikevaldez7684]

Imdad Codes, Liar💯🙋🙏

[@mikevaldez7684]

That low is actually considered dangerous, even for a trained distance runner it increases your risk of stroke, etc

[@linusmaxe3145]

And I wouldnt say 195 maxHR is particularly low =D

[@frankgaudioso5749]

This was an awesome episode, possibly the best I have heard on The Drive. Thanks for the great content.

[@PoetWithPace]

I agree 👍🏼

[@zhannakerr5706]

my son is 12 and just ran 10km in 42 :00 ! Ryan is such an inspiration ! fantastic interview

[@RobertNaik]

Well done to him. That’s fast.

[@SSD92_x]

What

[@PoetWithPace]

Holy moly! That is one fast 12 year old!

[@mikevaldez7684]

@@gwilchek He's obviously a liar!😂💯🙋🙏

[@bendhiman4190]

Really appreciate your fandom and specialist knowledge with top athletes Peter. Thanks and keep it up.

[@ericchevalley]

Fascinating! Thank you both for the conversation.

[@thestancemethod977]

Nice Huberman mention. One day these titans will duel.

[@sergiogomes8035]

Ryan is a very nice guy, i like his personality. Thank you for this enjoyable 3h conversation!

[@wyndell300]

I competed in the Olympic games in track and field the sprints, and I have also coached athletes to make Olympic teams and others to set world records from adults to kids setting national records and breaking school records. The best thing in my opinion you can do with your child as I have seen this phenomena over the last 30 years is to allow them to mostly do short sprints early in life and then distance or aerobic capacity later, these are the most successful all around athletes. Olympian Wyndell Dickinson.

[@jasocaz]

Peter, with a straight face: have you ever tried Viagra to run faster? Ryan: no *moves on* Peter, seconds later: I once swam with a rectal probe Ryan: … We love you Peter!

[@mikevaldez7684]

🤣💯🙋🙏

[@mikevaldez7684]

Jason Cazes, The last part Peter deleted where Ryan, again moved on, & Peter asked if Ryan ever had a sexual experience w/ another man!🤣💯🙋🙏

[@xaii2270]

Cr2❤

[@xaii2270]

Cr2❤

[@xaii2270]

Cr2❤

[@GotDamBoi]

this has been a great interview so far, loving all the vids

[@MarcinFitness]

Awesome interview. Thank you both.

[@mathewmapram7108]

Great conversation. Informative and Inspiring . Thanks Peter.

[@dc2090]

Best interview of yours I've seen!

[@ianmcleod7046]

Great episode! Any resources on proper running form for people getting into marathons?

[@owenlane517]

I'm 5 mins in and very excited for this!!

[@neildobbs7278]

i noticed myself when i was out training in the Arctic waters.. I had just drank a red bull through my eyeball to give me that quick start that i usually lacked when competing against eels and dolphins. Anyway.. to make a long story short, i found the optimal resistance for progressive overload was half a viagra, a clothes peg attached to the left nipple to offset the accumulated instability ratio, 40lbs of seaweed wrapped around each leg, and a moderately strong tiger shark pulling on my Billabong trunks. Now you don't want the shark to be TOO strong. that's key. in fact if you look at a study done on mermaids done back in the 90's.. if you can't hold your breath under water for at least 2hours.. you might as well not get up in the morning. and those mermaids don't even oil their tails. before or after the migratory swim

[@Strizzle81]

Incredibly fastenating interview! Thank you for sharing!

[@brianmcewen3082]

Whoa! 5:18 mile on the treadmill? That's a solid time ... for an 8th grader.

[@joshrobinson2029]

Ryan is a very likeable guy

[@PoetWithPace]

True

[@mephisto212]

Peter to his 13 year old daughter: "you have a really narrow window in which your cardiovascular system is malleable." daughter: "Whatever, dad"

[@stevenodle2728]

Awesome podcast!

[@user-bt5xd4lo5n]

Why is this video always on autoplay? Every time I let a video finish playing, this one starts. It used to happen with Huberman and now this guy..

[@mrmedic2012]

Outstanding podcast

[@MRTatsaa]

Good stuff. Enjoyed this a lot and also learnes a thing or two

[@mikeemilybygrave3783]

Love to hear such 'detail oriented' health/fitness/science geeks share info n personal stories! Quick question concerning your 'heat dumping' segment. From a biohacking perspective....can consistent sauna regiments be the equivalent to 'live high and train low' for enhancing the natural temperature regulation systems? I find after several weeks of experiencing sauna temps ~ 225 - 250-ish Fahrenheit.....my physiology converts me over to become a 'super sweater'. (I literally transform into my grandfather.....a little old sweaty man 😂) I feel this likely aided me as a moderate intensity seeking CrossFitter who dabbled with ultra long rowing. Thoughts? And thanks to the both of you....for your transparency, sincerity and leadership! Question....do....teach.

[@brucehutch5419]

Peter Attia you're too young to remember or understand the beginning of the running craze in the public. I started running on Mission Bay San Diego 1977 when THE marathon in San Diego was The Mission Bay Marathon. I ran the Bay to Breakers among many 5 and 10 Ks and half marathons in San Diego. You are an Elite athlete swimmer, open ocean distance swimmer,and Sublet in boxing cycling, an expert in Fitness Fitness physiology. So now you're doing interview with Ryan Hall like America and the runners back into the late 60s in America have just discovered recreational distance running.

[@km_personaltrainer]

Ryan is such a beast!

[@dant.6364]

This is the coolest guest Dr. Attia has ever had on the podcast

[@nadernayo]

Thanks.. Great video as usual.. Ton of information..

[@FCox-cy2zq]

My very first time here, new to both of these fellows. Dr. Attia seems to take too much of the airspace. He seems determined to be 1st, on top, and a bit of aknowitall....no matter, appreciate the show and information. Thank you 💓 😊

[@PoetWithPace]

Fabulous interview. I have been fortunate to meet Ryan and he is a great guy. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼

[@bretzky9261]

I've never seen and interviewer talk so much about himself.

[@jettaphillips5023]

It's a conversation not an interview

[@JohnDoe-sw9zq]

My fav EP quote to date "I didn't know we were racing for the stage" . Dude always has an excuse ready.

[@mogarchy]

"This wasn't supposed to be a difficult swim, it was just 12 miles, about 6 hours." Right. Easy peasy.

[@DandRoeOnthego]

Great workout! ❤ Rose in Kansas!

[@isaarunarom7830]

I didn't know it was possible to be in Cali and still be 2 hours away from the beach, I'm 32 and the furthest I have ever been away from the ocean is an hour

[@bmp713]

There is no such thing as garbage training. All exercise is beneficial.

[@cameronrichardson1416]

As an endurance athlete I can say that Tylenol is performance enhancing

[@dc2090]

Would be curious to know his thoughts on once you develop the aerobic system? does that last forever? or maintained with minimal effort, etc..? Also, so can any sprinter become a great marathoner if all it takes is a 49sec 400m?

[@shangrila73eldorado]

I know the interviewer wants to control the talk but, go, he interrupts too much! The way to control this without interrupting is to talk to the guest beforehand and explain the structure.

[@ScottSummerill]

Did/does Ryan have a favorite running shoe? Looking for something different to try.

[@atashgallagher5139]

As a strong proponent of curing aging like the diesease it is. No, no it's not ok that it's fleeting. Thats a very very bad thing and a tradgedy of nature. We should be in the best physical shape of our lives and the best mental shape when we are 80, or 800. The fact that someone reaches the peak of their knowledge and wisdom and experience, then retires and shortly afterwards loses most of it then dies is not a good thing. Being fleeting doesn't make life beautiful, being beautiful makes life beautiful. No one says a person is beautiful because they'll look like the visage of death twenty years from now, they just look good. No one says a painting is beautiful because it will rot to nothing soon. Every second on average more than 2 people die. During the time you spent watching this video, 21,474 people died. Is that a good thing? Did that make your life more beautiful? Does that make it easier to appreciate a good day? I certainly don't think so. We can if we put in the effort undo aging, stop it in it's tracks, people would still die from disease, accidents, and violence, but not age. And every known cause of death is exponentially more likely as you age. But even more than that every aspect of quality of life gets worse as you age, athletically, freedom and independence, looks, mental acuity, memory, the abilty to be with your family. Watch the fable of the dragon tyrant. Great video. Death is not good, death is not your friend, death is not a good thing because it is natural, there are creatures in nature that don't age, it doesn't make life beautiful we just tell ourselves that because if it isn't needed then it just feels bad, which it should.

[@toddapplegate3988]

African runners are heroic during the run not after the run. They really admire the effort vs the performance (time).

[@Sophie-px4xu]

Phew, sweaty! Some new ones in there, thanks 👍❤

[@scottboy]

Anyone ever tell you, you sound just like the guy from softwhiteunderbelly?

[@riddlescom]

I wonder about peds . They were around in those days.

[@mikevaldez7684]

They all were juiced

[@MrConradd]

I wonder if Ryan can identify the best type of running coach....Daniels, Lydiard, etc

[@eteneshworku7983]

Grazie Grazie ❤

[@oktoberwolfe2726]

35 now and faster, than I was while in my 20's. Been able to , bring my mile time from 5:59 to 5:44 and I am sure i can bring my time down even more...again its just a mile. whole different ball game doing that for 13-26 miles. a lot of people, including myself wonder how to run fast . I remember a quote from, an elite Kenyan coach ..he just told his guys to " be stupid and just run fast" I always tried to apply that ..just turn off that voice saying slow down, and just break into a new threshold . Once, you start running and breaking into new speeds ..it makes the other runs so much easier, and the confidence of having other gears is great.

[@scotbenson8097]

Age 19, 2:53, Age 53, 3:02 Why do I feel like a failure?

[@oktoberwolfe2726]

for marathon or ?? still good times

[@PoetWithPace]

Running a mile fast is very different to fast endurance. I have ran a 5:29 mile in my late 50s and ran a 3:06 marathon a few months ago. Different muscles, energy sources involved 👍🏼

[@chrispark7010]

“If you can run like a sprinter, you’ll be a good distance runner”- Alberto Salazar

[@mikevaldez7684]

Chris Park, which means what?

[@chrispark7010]

@@mikevaldez7684 if you listened to the entire podcast, Ryan Hall said you need atleast 50sec or faster 400m speed to even consider being an elite runner. Salazar was famous for having a speed emphasis on his program.

[@travis8947]

Let me ask you a question but let me answer it first

[@zed5129]

So if I didn't do a lot of cardio young, I can't have good cardio ever? Wow... I wasn't aware of that, how demotivating...

[@lean2281]

Where did he say that

[@lean2281]

Did you spend your childhood playing computer games ?

[@lean2281]

Fuck yeah ryan

[@dionmancenido6035]

Great video, huge fan of Ryan. But wouldn’t recommend half squats. Need full range of motion.

[@sylvainbauge]

Who's gonna pop-up some Tylenol on their next tempo run? LOL

[@mikevaldez7684]

One disappointment: Ryan is definitely on steroids now & he doesn't even want to discuss their use in distance running...Lasse Viren used them in the 70s & he competed in the marathon, too.💯🙋🙏

[@lean2281]

Theyre all on it. Who cares

[@byron_hs4604]

Live fast die young, its a trade off.

[@lean2281]

Who's living fast and dying young?

[@squashduos1258]

Many elite runners like Meb who is not a forefoot striker uses his huge aerobic engine….is technically sub optimizing his running potential by landing the feet sub optimally….imo…best runner of all time imho on all distances is Kenenisa Bekele…muscular legs which is hardly seen by long distance runners…huge quads…here is his intervals training times 8x (400 in 52-54, rest, 200 in 24-25) w/ 90sec-2min rest b/w. The guy has 11 world cross country titles held the world records for roughly 15 years for both the 5&10K in no carbon insole track shoes(!!!) held the world record of the Marathon in Berlin only to be broken by a few seconds….this guy has the biomechanics we all want maximum force load bounding like a deer….he is the gold standard not the skin&bone guys who mostly uses their huge aerobic engines but with a suboptimal foot strike. Just saying. Bekele is the real deal on any distance! Poetry in motion.

[@mikevaldez7684]

SQUASH DUOS, You know nothing; bekele was on steroids Dodo

[@squashduos1258]

@@mikevaldez7684 haha good one!

[@msmyankees]

Ryan’s a nice guy but the lack of transparency about using testosterone after competition and claiming he has level of 1000 natural rolls off the tongue way too easy. I’m not saying he was doping but it doesn’t make you look better when you lie to people in retirement, like a habit thats hard to break.

[@mikevaldez7684]

Wasatchwatts, Yes, obviously he's a liar; he's on steroids now, & was enhanced then, too.😂💯🙋🙏

[@brandonbynum6356]

Was this a Skype podcast edited to look like in person? The lighting seems odd

[@kevindecoteau3186]

Yes, support your kid in doing whatever crazy thing they want to do. About tylenol, bad stuff, potentially dangerous.

[@sharnie528]

❤

[@lauries608]

Why do you keep coming up? It's bizarre

[@thepatternforms859]

Unless your sprinting heel strikes are normal. It’s actually impossible to toe strike when going slower it is totally unnatural

[@msmyankees]

Take your high healed shoes off and it becomes natural

[@thepatternforms859]

@@msmyankees I have a pair of zero drop Altras that enjoy walking and hiking in but I absolutely HATE running in them. Feels like running in quick sand

[@PoetWithPace]

Agreed

[@askingwhy123]

The lack of rigorous blood work is baffling, but it has the advantage of preventing athletes from training too much to metrics instead of performance.

[@mikevaldez7684]

SomeAssembyRequired, You just contradicted yourself Dodo....😂💯🙋🙏

[@jfox11000]

Imagine if he had the alphaflys or vaporflys in 2011!!!! What would his Boston have been?

[@PoetWithPace]

I often hear this especially with sub 2:10 guys from the 80s

[@mikevaldez7684]

@@PoetWithPace what do you know Dodo ....😂💯🙋🙏

[@lean2281]

Been 2 or 3 mins faster

[@mishkathlay]

Was Bro reading a script?

[@nigerwood8674]

Dental veneers Ryan ?

[@lean2281]

Gnarly

[@fit4taskfit4task49]

If you don’t DOPE you won’t Cope…

[@JaredandTasha]

I ran 52 second for the 400m in high school, 49 will win you the league lol.

[@francissweeney5753]

I can't help but wonder how much better Ryan could have become had he been less impulsive, more mature, coached, counseled, patient and more measured. He can definitely hammer, I will give him that. But God is my coach? Really?

[@scotbenson8097]

It's all about context!

[@PoetWithPace]

There’s a great book called “good to go, how to eat, sleep and rest like a champion that has a chapter about Ryan and talks about how much better he could of been if he spent more time recovering and resting.

[@scotbenson8097]

Thanks for the recommendation. I met Ryan at a private gathering. He's the same personality you see in public, along with Sarah. I know Dick Beardsley, and have a lot in common. If a horse is bred to run, let it run, because it understands (beyond our comprehension) what it was put on this earth to do.

[@adriangabrielgramada1016]

Performance desperate freaks talking drugs and even toxic effects yet only seeing gains that are not even their own :))) What kind of a cheater mentality is that :) Nice view into what athletes are really like, trying anything not yet regulated and even then and seeing the body as a God-given for them to mess with :)))

[@Tritiuminducedfusion]

Ahhhhh, this explains a lot. I guess me being so active in my teens and 20's made it easy to get in marathon shape in 6 months in my 40's. Kinda figured as much but wasn't sure the mechanism behind it.

[@Julian.Mracky]

Heart rate of 27!?!? Bruh 😂😂

[@izzy7067]

They all have turtle stomachs and traps. Totally normal and not a coincidence and indicative of steroids 😂😂😂

[@TerryManitoba]

👑👑👑As soon as I thought the Algorithm would not show me any more of the King of the Humble Brag - It drags me back in & forces me to post another review❗❗❗ It's not surprising no one has ever asked what I mean that PA is a Humble Braggart. Or his content has so few views and the content is so unimportant that no one even bothers to read or actually comments.

[@nathancarter450]

Did Peter hurt your feelings?

[@TerryManitoba]

@@nathancarter450 sure

[@SeanJordanMusic]

I’m sad for you

[@TerryManitoba]

@@SeanJordanMusic ya- he urt me feelin' real bad like...

[@elvay6847]

Try a new drinking game. Take a shot every time Ryan gets interrupted. Take a double shot every time Peter talks about himself.

[@GordonA-Jr]

Maybe we could hear more from the guest rather than you trying to impress us with your “knowledge”

[@marksummers6903]

Maybe Dr Peter Attia knows things that Ryan Hall doesn’t…

[@GordonA-Jr]

@@marksummers6903 then don’t have in a guest and just do your own episode

[@brianonuanain7535]

​@@marksummers6903At the very end Ryan says " I loved it Peter. Awesome chatting with you man." That said it all.

[@FrankZen]

👀👀

[@LandonWalsh]

Rude

[@scotbenson8097]

To Ryan's strong religious to psychological relationship confirms what I heard on another podcast: "God is a hack, to keep us in line." -Eric Weinstein