1990 DMC USA finals. Steve Dee and DJ Baby G, misjudged?

[@Jazzemoto]

I'd agree it was misjudged and from watching i can see HOW.... Baby G did body tricks and THAT seemed to APPEAR to be more than what Steve was doing....but ON THE CONTRARY it just SHOWS at that time in the DJ culture ...to the fans it was more VISUAL than creative......which only means when Steve unleashed THE FUNK.... it was SOOO over ppl's heads they COULDNT understand what he was doing at the time..but i'm just shocked that ppl didnt get it after HEARING how he rocked that JUST BUGGING cut.....THAT WAS NOT NO KIND OF NORMAL ON NO ASPECT OF DJING

[@logicalblackman8228]

Then you can’t say it was misjudged based on how things were at the time. It’s easy to go back and judge it years later with additional insight.

[@yingko1933]

Steve Dee definitely won,Steve Dee was innovator and till this day remains one of the most underrated “turntablist” of all time.

[@williamjoyner3759]

Son, keep yer feet off the table.

[@DTAEXPERIENCE]

I Begged Them 2 Re Consider and Give The Title To Steve cuz I knew Baby G wouldn't make if far in London....and I was right!

[@newyorker19810]

Bruh this routine was trash i know its 90 but fuck steve dee killed it. Greatest robbery ever. Baby should never say he was a champ because steve dee was the man on this night.

[@gdupkwin9676]

I don't think there's been a bigger travesty in the history of DJing

[@gdupkwin9676]

His set was TERRIBLE SHAME SHAME ON THESE JUDGES,AND THEY ABSOLUTELY SHOULD KNOW BETTER ,MAYBE THERE WAS SOME BIASED OR PREJUDICE

[@dextrusdalabassistan]

I remember seeing on video and being amazed at what Steve was doing with the funny drummer juggle alone! He was doing on turntables what guys weren't even doing on samplers at the time! I thought he didn't give what they expected, tricks and blends, but he was basically give them beats!

[@uspdjs216]

Dude you should of smacked them judges. Smdh

[@kingdjshAde]

Baby-G's set comes off as sloppy, unorganized and unmusical. The only cool aspect of his set was the intro, flipping some of the reggae records. Steve Dee murdered his 6 minutes. Period. There's many head nodding moments in Steve's set, whereas Baby-G's is literally painful to listen to. People talk about skipping, but Baby G's set was full of skips.

[@_thevaporz]

Steve Dee period. I seen a guy play guitar with his toes it's dope af but Steve Dee busted the best jams and set overall. This guy's been playing in Balboa Park since the 90's kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnnag4Wpm6lmjaM

[@jovegairy8409]

Woah. I agree 100%

[@kingdjshAde]

@@jovegairy8409 I don’t mean any disrespect to Baby G, but yeah, I think Steve’s set had way more going for it.

[@aristhera]

Today it's unbelievable. But who won in 1990? David Fascher who also scratched with his feet and had a set full of silly gimmicks

[@jovegairy8409]

My goodness it should be the other way around. DJ Baby G did his thing, it was going pretty good and he over did it. Then DJ Steve dee put on a show and kill it! You can tell that this guy practiced his skills to make sure its on point. So the judges should of put Steve Dee to won the dj competition. Straight up!

[@kingdjshAde]

Steve’s upfader transforms at the end too?? Signature X-Men sound. Raida used to incorporate that and the incredible Mista Sinista still does as well!! RESPECT⚔️

[@ka0566]

Somebody said Cash Money was beat juggling since 86/87. Meh, while technically true there was nothing really technical about Cash Money's beat juggling style if you compared it to Steve D. Steve D didn't just transition back and forth between 2 records. He completely re-worked the beat into something brand new. Show me the Cash Money videos in 86/87 where he was doing shit like at the 7:30 and 10:00 minute marks. That doesn't mean Cash Money was a bad turntablist. To the contrary. He was definitely good, no doubt... but Steve D invented The Funk. He is the father of beat juggling. He is.

[@logicalblackman8228]

At least you don’t think DJ Cash Money is wack. That’s something, I guess😊 i’m not here to debate who invented be juggling; but I wanted to point out something. It’s not fair to belittle Cash’s or anyone else’s style, simply because it’s not as advanced as Steve Dee’s. You need to keep in mind that every advancement builds on whatever comes before it. Beat juggling could not have existed without many predecessors laying down basic patterns.

[@tyronetaylorsr.9431]

Steve Dee killed it and should've won he birthed one of the illest crews ever The X men long live the spirit of Roc Raida peace

[@almadixon-cider31]

3:16 A Foot Came Out, Went Away Then Came Back Sockless! 🤣🤣🤣

[@cloony1]

30 Seconds into the Steve's set he could have stopped and imo. deserved a victory 🙌 just mind blowing

[@Marc-yd4qj]

For me still just a few top dj's even in 2018... after seeing a lot of them on You Tube.... to me personally it's still Cash Money an Jazzy Jeff and despite his setback... Compton trigger Dj Alladin... when Alladin's on rampage came out in '89 I even thought for a while that he was better than Cash Money... but the years made me to make a change in my humble opinion... ow yeah DJ Miz as wel and Tat Money... I loved the Philly DJ's a lot in the mid to early 90's... Caah best DJ... but Alladin is the DJ still with my favorite record out there... since something like Low Profile was unheard of bank in 89... dope dj and dope mc on every release.... Although I like the 80's LL joints with Cutcreator a lot as wel... but that's another kind of story

[@copper-coloredmvskoke8899]

Peace...to my knowledge, what was regarded as Cut Creator was really The Original DJ Jazzy Jay (Soul Sonic Force) early on! That is what he has been documented as of stating as fact!

[@stylewars7039]

Well said brutha, CASH MONEY, STEVE DEE, JAZZY JEFF, DJ RUN, AND DJ ALADDIN , MIX MASTER MIKE ARE MY ALL TIME FAVS, GREW UP IN THE 80S AND JUS LUV THAT RAW TRUE HIP HOP SOUND🔥🔥🔥👌😎

[@donpresent]

@@copper-coloredmvskoke8899 Ironic. I just watched a Cut Creator interview and he said it was Jazzy Jay.

[@salzavenchura9043]

"He's The DJ I"m The Rapper" was my intro to hip hop. Love Cash and that early Philly style to this day...

[@mikelaw3862]

Actually most of the cuts from LL’s Bad album was from DJ Bobcat from Cali.

[@sneadw123]

Baby G scratching with his nuts. He was nice if it felt uncomfortable watching. But for sure Stevie did his thing.

[@j.g.6714]

I’ll be the first to admit that Steve should have won that battle. I agree totally w Erik William’s comments. This was 1990 (before internet) and what Steve Dee was doing was groundbreaking! Way above peoples heads that night. Even some of the judges. It was the outlandish tricks that got me over and I presume the crowd’s response (?). The majority of the crowd were random Hip Hop fans and not necessarily discerning DJs. I beg to differ w those that claim DMC had an “agenda” THAT night. What are you basing that theory on? One thing to keep in mind is that the term “beat juggling” hadn’t even been coined yet (nor flair scratches for that matter). Steve was ahead of his time. When I got the VHS tape and was able to rewind it over and over, it really showed how dope and technical he was. He killed it at the battle for World Supremacy that year...New Music Seminar 1990 (do ur self a favor and watch that battle if u can find it). So yes, it was misjudged. Hindsight is 20/20.

[@lustforlow-end6022]

Damn... are you Baby G for real?! I thought you had a great set here!

[@bryankelly335]

Baby relied so heavily on Stage Presence , his set was mediocre at best ... And yeah the boy had just as many "Skips" as Steve .. I personally think Steve was so ahead of the time that people didn't quite grasp he was doing .. Win or Lose , he became a Legend .. His Influence on the Era is undoubted .. Plus , his Techniques are still taught to DJs this day ..!

[@jan_777]

And Baby Gs set is not even rhythmical, try to count a beat, it's almost always off. Steve was much cleaner.

[@mr_diatribe2324]

Red Alert bopped his head at 3:59 ;0 Then his head dropped off when Steve Dee repped!!! Wow! Jazzy J look at him grinning !!! History !! ;) 11:35 Winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnner! Ps Mix Master Mike studied this..... ISP XMEN....PEACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@anttiskate]

Compared to a lot of the older beat juggling sets, this is just clinical and technically so sound it's a pleasure to listen to still in the year 2020. Amazing.

[@HypnoticHollywood]

There were no beat juggling sets before this 1990 battle. It was the first year Steve Dee introduced beat juggling to the world.

[@boogiedownbronx73]

DICK RIDING THE CROSSFADER IS A BIG NO NO hahahaha I would disinfect that shit

[@bobbydazzlersmokez]

damn. that ugly people be quiet juggle was just crazy...

[@jooniec]

Steve murdered this. I see where Baby G was going. The previous year David used crazy tricks to win and it was more flash than cleanliness

[@newyorker19810]

Wrong

[@miker2591]

Steve's juggles were so far advanced plus his transforms at the end so clean and funky as hell. Clear winner.

[@jamesgips7347]

Transforming with the volume slider on that Gemini 2200 too. Major props.

[@taurus_1977]

I hope they wiped the mixer clean

[@timatityah.ysrayl]

NOWHERE WUZ IT MORE OBVIOUS that lame, NON-DJing Body tricks appealed 2 judges (& an ignorant audience) than the '91 Finalz where non-DJ David spun himself on the turntable (AFTER MADD MESS UPS in his set) & "won" over Q-Bert who ripped the recz 2 shreds & wuz doin' stuff that sent DJin in2 the stratosphere. Then after Q came back & won the next 2 titles DMC retired them sayin' they were 2 far advanced 4 any1 else 2 compete with! How unfair wuz THAT?!?

[@newyorker19810]

Such a tragedy . Steve dee is a beast and baby g has to know that when he looks at that trophy he knows he wasnt the best on this night

[@rayallen1686]

Knicks new yorker remember what slick rick said in young world a righteous man never looses a fight in gods sight dj david got to go home with the trophy that night but Stevie d has the respect of being the father of what you see today worldwide the truth still stands

[@chrisallistar8007]

Stevie did have a lot of needle skips and the judges frown on that.This was the battle he won he didn't lose.PS the winner of the 89 New music seminar was the inventor of the beat juggle that's DJ MIZ. Rob swift who's stevie's student uploaded the video.You can see where they got their inspiration from

[@MIXPRO68]

Here is the thing Chris-i was at the 1989 NEW MUSIC SEMINAR battle in New York held on that hot July Sunday in the Red Zone club and Steve was there ready to compete.Steve was going to be in the battle as an alternate to Dj Miz if Miz didnt make it on time.however because they allowed Miz extra time to be late because of the 2 hour trip from Philadelphia.so in turn Steve wasnt allowed to be in it.Some of the routines u saw at the DMC were going to be used in the 1989 seminar.Steve already had the beat juggling/funk thing ready to be put on display.Fun fact:Steve was so angry that he wasnt allowed to participate in the 1989 NMS battle that during the seminar,in the crowd, he shouted "FUCK THE SEMINAR"!! lolol. I was there and I heard it sitting in the front.He was wearing his Blue "superman"shirt with red sweat pants and hightop sneakers.

[@theodoreyoung4004]

Why wasn't Steve allowed to compete in the 89NMS?

[@MoralRichMedia]

Wow... I just saw this for the first time... Steve Dee would still be competitive today... much respect to him...

[@copper-coloredmvskoke8899]

baby g rocked a little...Steve D...GRANDMASTER status!

[@ernies.260]

Baby G’s set was cringing to watch, Stevie Dee’s transforming at the end of his set won it for me.

[@jonhouelectron]

Dj baby G ripped that 🔥🚒🔥

[@jaydublis]

Both them mfkz was cold. I got it to Steve D but Baby G was nice wit it

[@KILLABACKICK]

ON THE REAL PHILLY WASN'T EVEN REALLY DOING TOO MUCH ON THE BEAT JUGGLE TIP THEN.....I WAS IN THE STREET DJING AND DOING PARTIES. I SAW THEM ALL.....IN MY TIME MIZ IS A FAMILY FRIEND FROM.SOUTH WEST PHILLY CAME UP WITH MY BROTHERS. MOST CATS IN PHILLY DJ SCENE WERE FAST, JUST STARTED TRANSFORMATION SCRATCH AND WORKING ON THAT BUT THAT BEAT JUGGLE THING CAME OUT N.Y. HERE IS A LIST OF THE CATS FROM MY ERA. DJ. TIZER,THORPE,COSMIC KEV, GRAND MASTER NELL,MASTER VIC.TAT MONEY, OF COURSE CASH MONEY HE LEAD THE CHARGE,JAZZY JEFF,MADD DOC,DISCO RAT,ANT MAN,NAZZ T MONEY(MYSELF) MASTER D THEN HE CHANGED IT TO SPINBAD, LIGHTNING RICH,GRAND WIZARD RASHEEN. WE ALL COULD ROCK PERIOD.

[@harryarmstrong658]

Steve Dee definitely won, no question.

[@claudinejimdar5650]

After all these years, this Turntable DJs still fascinates me! 😍😎

[@HypnoticHollywood]

You would enjoy dj Mysterio, he does magic on the turntables, you can find his clips on youtube.

[@paultaylor4941]

Steve Dee....all the way!

[@angrykermit3192]

DJ Baby G should have been disqualified for using his nutsack on the crossfader and DJiing with his bare feet. Most unhygienic DJ set ever.

[@TuneStunnaMusic]

I can see why Steve lost now. In The New Music Seminar in NYC, everyone was beat juggling after Steve brought it in 89. When Steve brought beat juggling into DMC, probably most of the judges hadnt seen it yet nor understood it, so of course they will vote for what isnt over their heads, and in 1990 that was body tricks. The same thing happens in many competitions where recent skilled champs arent judges.

[@pabloforero1454]

@@alphabetsoup342 I dont even think the tables they have would have allowed for beat juggling.

[@pabloforero1454]

@@alphabetsoup342 they were looping breakbeats with 2 records back in the day. Its not the same as beat juggling. Unless if this is some sort of insane south Bronx super secret, the 80s djs brought the beatjuggle

[@pabloforero1454]

@@alphabetsoup342 I mean looping a beat is just repeating the pattern. Besat juggling is basically live editing of a song. Changing the pattern of the song

[@pabloforero1454]

*beat

[@pabloforero1454]

@@alphabetsoup342 your not juggling. Repeating a pattern and chamging the pattern are different. KZbin it? Lol.

[@djekse]

Thanks because they repeatedly done the same thing to DJ Precision (X-Ecutioners) at the 2007, 2012 and 2015 DMC World Finals.

[@roBEARtoEHarwoodJr]

he was tryna do the cranium part wid his head... logical...

[@TheStuF]

Steve was so excited about his new techniques I think he put too many different ones in the set! Of course now when we watch it it is easy to say he "should" have won. If you were there at the time you would probably have agreed with the judges decision. I think competitions are always silly - however it is a great way to drive invention. Edit: I say if "you" were there meaning the commentors...if "you" were a DJ at that time and you knew how difficult it was to do what Steve did - I can see why you would be angry!

[@HypnoticHollywood]

What's silly about competitions?

[@TheStuF]

In my opinion they cause a lot of arguments and really who can say someone is "better" when you are talking about artistic expression. That said I do see the value in competitions because they are a great way to motivate and inspire people to improve and invent new techniques. I prefer jamming to battling would be the simplest way to explain my thinking:)

[@logicalblackman8228]

I like your post. The most important thing is that you recognized how people felt “at that time.“ Yes, we can look back now and say whatever. But in the moment I think most people were still excited about body tricks. I was at the 96 finals when dj swamp took first. I remember being super excited about his set. DIsk was there. I asked him who he thought won and he said sinista and then Babu. I remember being completely stunned by his response. Looking back, I can see why he felt that way. But at the time, I was more impressed by the stuff Swamp was doing.

[@JonathanLogan1982]

​@@logicalblackman8228 That's cool that you were at the 96 DMC finals. I used to own the tape at one point. When I watched the video I thought Mista Sinista should have won. I liked his musical selection more than DJ Swamp's.

[@logicalblackman8228]

@@JonathanLogan1982 I feel like Swamp told a story. He had a great intro, and then a number of different types of skills were on display during his set. He also had a great outro with smashing the records, which were totally consistent with his heavy metal look. Sinister basically just did a bunch of really-sick juggling routines.

[@dg2cww341]

Shit was a war style vs creativity classic both winners

[@jpsgalia]

Steve Dee was robbed like Q-Bert in 1991 World Finals. Both djs were very ahead of their times. Luckily Q-Bert got revenge in 92/93-94 finals ...

[@newyorker19810]

Qbert fucked up in 91.he didnt practice before the finals. Too many mistakes on his finals routine just like aladdin in 89

[@kiko12000]

@@newyorker19810 Qbert and Aladdin were both apparently high as fuck during their sets.

[@FunkyChild718]

He was too ahead of his time. All the breakdowns, melodies and loops that sounded like real production went way over everyone’s heads, including the judges. For the first time, someone tried to make a real produced beat live at a DJ battle.

[@FonkedUpProductions]

Steve Dee killed it but DJ Scratch was beat juggling in 88 but Steve Dee should have won this

[@baadbwoy4381]

Hadn't seen this video before, but personally I think Steve tree's set stands above the other dudes I also think his beat juggling is better than many modern dj sets

[@icalltheshots454]

I never realize bag then how much better he was there Steve Dee I’m from Harlem NYC but I have to go with baby G on this one it took me like 30 years from the day I saw this on video music box back in 1991

[@URNOTADJ]

Salute. Ain’t nothing wrong with a difference of opinion. On the strength of your comment I’m going to rewatch this unobjectively. #respect

[@URNOTADJ]

This convo is so dope. “Turntabilism”, not just playing records, but actual DJ skills was born this day with Steve Dee’s routine. What Baby G was doing at the time was the height of gimmicky, cringe worthy, “DJing”. Every DMC “Battle” up to this point was about who was fastest, or what props (like soda cans) did you use, or turning turntables on different angles.This battle was the difference between “back-spinning” and beat-juggling. Damn near everyone in these comments can back-spin, but there are very few beat jugglers in these comments. Steve Dee’s creation (The Funk, as he called it) or beat juggling was him taking “playing breaks” to a whole new level. What RZA did with samples making a whole new groove/cadence/tempo is what Steve did live on turntables LOOOONG before RZA. So as Baby G was following the noisy, unrhythmic practice of going as fast as you can and putting your legs in the air, using your feet and crotch….Steve Dee took an audio we all knew, and created a new rhythm entirely. This is The DJ (again) giving birth to and evolving Hip Hop. Salute to you for your comment, and I apologize for the essay…but that’s the whole truth.

[@icalltheshots454]

@@URNOTADJ I have to say I was there meaning I lived in the Bronx early 80s and I’ve been to several park jams as a shorty and I could tell you with confidence they would’ve probably booed Steve Dee trust me . Check how Baby gee had damn intro like it was a mixtape !! Yo I never realized what he was doing and now understand why he won . Hell I see Jazzy Jay and Red Alert on the side watching him pull off old school moves they were very familiar with. Like grand wizard Theodore cutting up in Ps 123 in the Bronx. He had handcuffs on !!!!!!

[@URNOTADJ]

@@icalltheshots454 Handcuffs, Soda Cans, Turntables upside down and flipping the cartridges...gimmicks, not skills. You are absolutely right, THAT is what they were used to seeing, so that's how it was judged. However, when Steve Dee performed the last time at Crotona Park he was on the phone with me before and after his performance. They didn't even feed the Legend (no cap) but he was received well by everyone in the park that day, but in my opinion not adequately. Trust I am well aware of the biased toward him in NYC, but he is without doubt the architect of Turntabilism, no matter who tries to deny that.

[@Tuck_Frump]

between 39-41 seconds it's clear to see why baby g won. He flamed on for the judges. It doesn't matter. Qbert went on to change the battle scene and qbert was robbed from DJ david. ISP for life ese

[@blankowvsingt]

david killed qbert to be honest

[@logicalblackman8228]

@@blankowvsingt that’s very hard to believe.

[@SpindleMedia]

He won this shit a few bars in, Steve Dee too dope.

[@thevirtualmixtape]

Steve’s set was over the judges heads when during that time, it seemed to be focused on body tricks and gimmicks. The same happened later on to Craze when he first competed in the ITF battles. He lost because he was too advanced according to the judges and I think this was the case with Steve Dee.

[@logicalblackman8228]

I wouldn’t say he was robbed. I can obviously see why people would have voted for Steve Dee; but I can also see why people would have voted for Baby G. In terms of turntable skill and musicianship, it’s not even close: Steve Dee. But in terms of performance and showmanship, Baby G. Steve Dee had some sick patterns, but didn’t do them long enough for people to get into them (in my opinion, since we can’t gauge the crowd reaction). Speaking of which, crowd response is a very important component of a competition, since the artform is, at the end of the day, about rocking the crowd. Finally, people weren’t ready for juggling. They tend to go with what is familiar. Body tricks was the trend and Baby G executed them almost flawlessly. My verdict: Baby G first, with Steve Dee a close second.

[@FordF-ocus]

Baby G's performance is just like modern DJing in today's battles, except the feet were replaced...by buttons ;)

[@ricosmith4511]

😂

[@scipreme]

Baby G was quite sloppy with all his body tricks etc. I think MAYBE his set would have been better if he stood still to be honest. Steve D actually topped what Baby G was doing, also raised the bar for battling. So yes, this was GROSSLY misjudged. If I dare to acknowledge my own bias, I will always choose the inventive yet realistic over the fancy yet ineffective.

[@ducklabsgaming4676]

Man I can't stand that Baby J set never could lol get them feet outta here!!! Muted reception to Stevie's clean juggle there too he was clearly way tighter than the others in this

[@marcusgarvee]

I agree that the judging & format of some Dmc events were questionable & clearly unfair ..It's usually more obvious or evident at the qualifying or elimination stages. The earliest example is Chad Jackson in the 1987 world finals .The audience can be heard booing him on the audio recording which was released on vinyl .And it was reported that bottles were thrown at the stage at the announcement. Another miscalculation occurred when DMC allowed teams to compete against individuals in the same event between 1992 - 1996. Now a DJ team with mc's samplers & keyboards etc would have a better chance of passing the qualifying stage, eliminations & potentially reach the finals at the expense of the individual all across the globe. #Note that the top 3 world final positions were awarded to Dj teams in 1992 & 93. A obvious high profile example of the dj team versus individual casualties would be Rob Swift , Roc Raida , DJ Rectangle, DJ Ta-Shi. Eg.. Roc Raida & Rob Swift were competing as individuals against the Rocksteady Dj's in the 1992 Us finals. Dj Rectangle was competing against the Rocksteady Dj's / Dream team defending in the 1993 world finals . I would also include... Dj Reckless beating Dj Pogo in the 1990 Uk finals.....( Dj Reckless's set was full of skips & mismatched mixing errors & too reliant on the " copycat " routine ) which fooled the audience. Dj Reckless defending UK champ beating Dj Excel in the 1991 Uk finals. ( abusing the Copycat routine again ) " Copycat " routine abuser extraordinaire Dj David in 1990 & 1991 also deserves a mention.

[@lol69_52]

I completely agree with you, and aside from the whole solos not having a chance against teams, I think crazy fast definitely should've won in the world finals of 93/4. Q's and Mix Masters has some okay parts, kinda?? I enjoyed the routine but I definitely liked crazy fast much more in that final. They had a more musical flow, while Q's and mix masters was just kinda, loud and obnoxious.

[@MichaelShum]

agree about the unfairness of solo djs competing against teams -- also agree about reckless at the '90 uk final - trix, pogo, jay, biznizz, and sparra all had better sets that night

[@bobbydazzlersmokez]

They weren't ready for it

[@getthoseskills4451]

Overall Stevie won. To the trained eye and ear you can see this was not a fair result. Coming from an X DMC UK finalist and competitor.

[@McRizzle23]

Coming from someone with 20 years scratching experience who has owned technics for.. 20 years and used to practise his scratch 4-6 hours a day Who loves DMC as it is what got me into the whole damn thing even though I can't beat juggle for shit. Have somehow never seen this set before but I agree with you stevie was tight I really don't think the judges understood what they were hearing the same way I see people on Internet saying qberts scratching is "shit" as its too advanced. But if you scratch yourself you know it isnt...if that makes sense??

[@SuperLou1261]

The Great Steve was definitely robbed

[@ezlrockwell]

I don't believe it was robbery but it was a close call. I would have to go with Baby G because of the body tricks but he also had a great set. Both were great and it's a shame both couldn't win. Much respect.

[@amerc870]

Not close at all.

[@djmarkcee6460]

What set you was watching 😮

[@fredicagoillanoise1309]

Is this the same Baby G who DJ'ed for Mad Flava?

[@boogiedownbronx73]

that gemini mx 2200 fader was toughhhh

[@darinsmith8170]

Steve D, baby!

[@mikelaw3862]

Steve D got robbed, period! As a side note, DJ Mizz and DJ Alladin were beat juggling a year before this. You can hear one of Mizz’s routines in Steve D’s set. Unless my timeline is off. Check out when they were on Yo MTV Raps. Steve D was a beast though!!!

[@mikelaw3862]

Yeah I just checked. It was 1989, a year before.

[@skratchdaddy2203]

That gemini mixer should be the one mixer everyone has to use in DMC. Just put a can of WD40 for the next guy😂

[@palomino13]

The male camel toe fader rub and the funky sock scratch was wack considering steve dee did some of the first head bobbing beat juggling.

[@kennethwatkins6126]

Steve D!!!!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👊🏿👊🏿

[@jerometurner3317]

Steve Cuts were tight along with his beat Juggling

[@iamjungle5703]

The funny thing Baby G is my homie. Irving Tx

[@taurus_1977]

One main concern was that everybody in the audience were quiet.

[@logicalblackman8228]

There was no audio fee from the audience, just the turntables and mixing board. You do know that, right lol.

OMG even his transitions of BASIC MIXING are shite. I didn't know this existed. holy fuck. I hate people that stack records on the platter like that. This totally reminds me of MY FIRST battle.. and I'm Baby G ..but I didn't win. LOL For good fucking reason. I had only had my 1200's for half a year but I could rock a clean mix in 1991. There are some basics DJ's should have. Oh well guess who people are still talking about :) STEVE DEE !!!!

[@akaiuwu]

apart from the loss of traction and damage to records is there any reason to do it??

[@jruins99]

this is so crazy he could have been the world dj champ if he had a fair chance.

[@trixierobson9202]

ABSOLUTELY steve d shud have won this battle !!! ...shame we will never get to find out if he'd of won the worlds

[@HypnoticHollywood]

trixie robson Good thing that Steve did go on to win the world title in the New Music Seminar that year.

[@trixierobson9202]

mysterymediacorp that he did , but dmc was THE title back then that everyone looked to :)

[@HypnoticHollywood]

trixie robson Oh I know, but just saying it was good for him (a true pioneer) to still go down in DJ history as a world champion. I have the original 1990 Seminar and Baby G actually took 3rd in that one, with Steve taking 1st... Also, even though Steve's set was even doper the following year in 1991, he told me himself that they didn't even place him in the top 3 at the USA finals!!! Smh

[@trixierobson9202]

mysterymediacorp true dat :)

[@giulioarti4852]

I remember this , and even thinking back then that he was a world apart from the rest even dj dave who won the world final was shit compared to this guy .

[@T-Cuts-Mined]

Wouldn’t be doing that fader move in the white shorts… skidders technique

[@tw.o.g]

Erbody wana discredit Baby G set but it was still dope

[@URNOTADJ]

Agreed. #salute

[@djpressure123]

Steve d smashed it. Dam shame. the judges are suposed to be clued up. The biz juggles alone won it for him

[@DanielMartinez-ir4pf]

Steve d killed it

[@PINHEIRO1119]

Certas Partes, Não Pulam!!! Ficam gravadas no Disco1!

[@brucerawlinsjr.9656]

Baby D bodied it. Pun intended.

[@BusyBodyB]

Did he have records stacked on records👀👀...nvr seen that

[@drummonbass]

Beat juggling was done way before 1990. Just saying

[@kiko12000]

Track at 8:32??

[@URNOTADJ]

LL COOL J - Illegal Search

[@lol69_52]

I think a lot of the competitions were misjudged, I think crazy fast definitely should’ve won the 1992 dmc

[@kutupmusictv]

lol69_ no way. Rock Steady was way ahead of their time and introduced the concept of band djing

[@akaiuwu]

@@kutupmusictv it's unfair, three decent dis in a group will outperform and make a bigger show out of one dj themselves

[@newyorker19810]

Troll

[@TheMeeesterT]

Definitely robbed... best set I've seen from that time period and who knows... maybe all the childish body tricks would've stopped sooner than it did if he had gone through.

[@logicalblackman8228]

Why do you consider body traits to be childish? They are very popular aspect of performing. And it takes a lot of skills to execute them. Not necessarily musical skill, but body control and hand/eye coordination, etc.

[@TheMeeesterT]

@@logicalblackman8228 I'm sure they do take a lot of hand eye coordination but they've never done it for me because the rhythm and timing gets lost in the razzmatazz of the tricks. If you listened to body tricks through audio only, then it would sound awful. Some of the best sets I have seen could be listened to through audio only and still be good because the beat transitions and timing are still bang on.

[@logicalblackman8228]

@@TheMeeesterT obviously, body tricks don’t have the same effect if you don’t look at them. The whole point is that it is a visual form of entertainment.

[@TheMeeesterT]

@@logicalblackman8228 body tricks are a visual form of entertainment yes, but this is a competition for the best DJ. I don't mind a bit of a spin around or switching the fader under your leg but I've no interest in seeing you move a fader with your groin. I find DJ's more interesting when they make something different from the tracks they are spinning rather than endless loops which lose their timing because the DJ is trying to pull the record back with their foot. It had it's time but beat juggling changed the game.

[@logicalblackman8228]

@@TheMeeesterT Different strokes for different folks. As you can see from reactions, body tricks are still wildly popular. In any sort of a performance competition, the audience response has to be a factor.

[@Raiderntx]

Isnt that Dj David

[@michaels8597]

wow..you got the wrong 'inventor' of the juggle and it's documented that it's Steve Dee..on tape,etc,

[@roBEARtoEHarwoodJr]

to be fair... in the time, tricks was dope... tho stank feet an beer bellies ain't gonna make those tiricks nice now,,,

[@ezlrockwell]

1:03 music??????

[@JMJC1]

3rd base.

[@CarlosCutter]

3rd Bass - Wordz Of Wizdom

[@dj0bliss0]

XMen FTW

[@tonyb7275]

Like all the behind the back leg over leg ok cool, but to me its unnecessary, like when Chad Jackson blind folded himself, like ok Chad you don't need your eyes on the decks doing the set you rehearsed like 1000 times with advance notice, like I can close my eyes and take a piss once I line myself up to the toilet, see what im saying BFD, like again both mad skills mad respect, but just do your thing, either we feel it or not either you win or don't. Idk if they judges are trying to determine who can best play twister and scratch I doubt it

[@dreddthaseeker6761]

wow. Steve WAS robbed. no comparison in the skills shown here. Its ridiculous that something like that can ever happen.

[@DirtyCuttinScoundrel]

Context people lol this was turntablism back then. Body tricks and speed

[@jeffgriffiths5945]

Steve Dee's routine was way better.

[@DJWildstyle7997]

Steve look like Chris Brown daddy..

[@MONEYMIKE-lb5qn]

i think it was more misinterpereted than misjudged.

[@milcmaster]

that was dope

[@abrahamgalvan474]

I seems that there is a lot of racial hatred on this page for Texas Latino "DJ Baby G!" Yes if it was only a beat juggling competition, then Steve Dee would be the sole winner. This is not the case and DJ Red Alert and the other judges agree. Furthermore there has been more latino champions in the DMC and at the world at large.

[@URNOTADJ]

I literally did not read one single racist comment. There's no room for that in our culture, and that is not what this post was about. I didn't read one racist comment, where exactly did you read ANY racist comments?!?

[@gaffle-411]

Ban G’s routine didn’t age well...

[@Melly_Mac]

2:12 PAUSE!

[@seanmcevoy7195]

No its to all over the place,

[@taurus_1977]

The judges look mad bored

[@lol69_52]

rip

[@AlphaDangerDen]

10:23 what song?

[@URNOTADJ]

Big Daddy Kane - "Something Funky" #classic

[@AlphaDangerDen]

Thanks!