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@Motorweek3 жыл бұрын
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@619_mitch83 жыл бұрын
Grandma won’t be late to bingo in this car!
@amylee8493 жыл бұрын
gRanDmA WonT Be laTe TO binGO iN thIs caR!!! That's how you sound... beautiful!
@Bartonovich523 жыл бұрын
@ Amy Lee. This is writing, not speech. Also, unless you were describing the sound [sic] as beautiful with a dramatic pause... don’t use an ellipsis in place of a comma.
@mikeatv3 жыл бұрын
she probably blew some dude in the back seat too... lol
@amylee8493 жыл бұрын
@@Bartonovich52 I didn't understand a word you just said.
@amylee8493 жыл бұрын
@@mikeatv yup, your dad.
@ChapmanFilms3 жыл бұрын
I would drive that now
@chadharmon57163 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely
@MustObeyTheRules3 жыл бұрын
I do drive it now. I love it
@jtb19904193 жыл бұрын
Me too! Had a ‘94 Ultra that I miss badly. Would take a clean one again in a heartbeat!
@bradlemmond3 жыл бұрын
Is this Tyler Hoover's alt account?
@vermontvermont92922 жыл бұрын
Get one!
@boss123 жыл бұрын
A supercharged couch‼️ Buicks are so comfortable
@msbae3 жыл бұрын
Nearly 30 years later and I am still seeing a good amount of these cars on the road in my area... :)
@cavalierliberty68383 жыл бұрын
GM cars stay on the road.
@cavalierliberty68383 жыл бұрын
@Roger Dodger how many almost 30 yesr old cars on the road are japanese? I used to see old hondas a lot, but hell, i barely see any older foreign metal still on the road. Still see old GM cars though.
@thewaragainstcars3 жыл бұрын
Roger Dodger I concur. You see a lot more older Hondas and Toyotas than GM cars. My Corolla is ten years old and runs like a champ.
@cavalierliberty68383 жыл бұрын
@@thewaragainstcars i own an 03 honda. Still, here in buttraunch, NC, i see far more old GM metal going around than hondas or toyotas. I'm talking anything older than a 99.
@cavalierliberty68383 жыл бұрын
@MOZZYTHE1ST not bullshit. The hondas around here got mostly ragged out by ricers. The gm cars, on the other hand, tended to be kept by grandmas and grandpas. 3800 is no joke, dude.
@TheCarCrazyGuy3 жыл бұрын
Bring back the American land yacht. We want them over SUV's!
@sannissansanjuan50743 жыл бұрын
Just a Buy a Rolls Royce
@nathanmcdonald6103 жыл бұрын
Nobody want's land yacht's anymore, just a small niche' group of people, everything's trending towards SUV's now, that's why all the big car companies are moving toward them, they're in the business to make money above all else, so they'll engineer and sell what their bean counters tell them is moving.
@Lion-dr7uv3 жыл бұрын
Nathan McDonald So a niche group of people is no one? Ops right we want land yachts and I think SUVs are gonna start trending down soon
@nathanmcdonald6103 жыл бұрын
@@Lion-dr7uv A niche group is small enough that Ford basically did away with Sedans completely in favor of trucks and SUV's, a decision I don't even fully agree with as an F-150 owner, but that's just how it is, people want cars that can corner as good as they can sprint, for everything else, they want an SUV, that's just a fact as it stands right now.
@user-tb7rn1il3q3 жыл бұрын
Lion1 Technically SUVs are trending down. Sedans and SUVs are being replaced with CUVs. Pickups are doing well right now, but will also trend down as fuel prices go up and parking becomes tighter.
@mattmayo35393 жыл бұрын
Grammy had one of these is the champagne color. What a sleeper. You could hear Grammys led foot from around the corner and that supercharger whine.
@alexnolasco13393 жыл бұрын
Imagining someone's granny giving it the beans is a hilarious sight
@juliogonzo27183 жыл бұрын
My grandmother had a lead foot even in her 80s. Remember riding with my mother after meeting for dinner with her and my grandmother. We were doing 120kmh in a 100 zone. Granny blew by us at 130-140
@luxurreview3 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best American cars of the 90s.
@jtb19904193 жыл бұрын
I loved my ‘94 Ultra that was my first car! Reliable, quick, and very comfortable.
@MercOne3 жыл бұрын
I guess that partly explains why Buick is out of the actual car business. This car was abysmal.
@victorjones3563 жыл бұрын
Ml
@VideoAmericanStyle3 жыл бұрын
This was a hideous POS. The sort of car you’d dread to even rent.
@ElectoneGuy3 жыл бұрын
If this was one of the best American cars, the Japanese really had nothing to be worried about.
@keithjackson2863 жыл бұрын
This was a good car. Buick did a good job bringing the Essence show car to production. And these were pretty reliable. You still see quite a few of these on the road
@Ithinkiwill663 жыл бұрын
When the cars were still "classic," like the hood ornament still for the GM cars...Buick, Chevy Caprice, Oldsmobile, and Cadillac....the last of the classic years 😥😥
@chrisSVT3 жыл бұрын
Leather racing gloves are a must for moving the shifter lever through its paces while parked.
@ggj19873 жыл бұрын
2:36 That was the first and only time someone has ever worn a helmet in a Buick Park Avenue
@t.b.g.5043 жыл бұрын
Probably for safety and liability reasons.
@tlawler883 жыл бұрын
I owned a 94 Park Ave Ultra - I still regret selling that car...smooth as skil, as luxurious as a Cadillac deVille but minus the headaches of the Northstar
@SouthsideKidd5503 жыл бұрын
Basically the Buick Park Ave was essentially Buick's version of the Deville because they were built on the same platform. I agree with u about the Northstar headache though. The 3800 was a damn good motor and GM needs to bring it back. If they do, they need to make a Series 4 without direct injection. Also love the way the 3800 sounds. Sounds truly like a Grandma car but I love Grandma cars though. I do like the early 90s Deville with the 4.9
@SouthsideKidd5503 жыл бұрын
@hitek9wittafulclip facts! However, the earlier Devilles came with the 4.9 V8. The 4.9 is a very good durable motor but it was just slower and heavier than the 4.6 Northstar. GM fucked up by wanting to compete so badly with the European makes. GM needs to stick to what they build best and that is pushrod V8s. Thats why the 4.9 was a better built engine. DOHC V8 are just too sophisticated and quick to break. At the end of the day, when it comes down to a 6 cylinder, GM's 3800 was the best of the best. The GM 3800 V6 was just as durable and reliable as Toyota's 1MZ V6 engines for the Camry.
@jtb19904193 жыл бұрын
I had an all black fully loaded ‘94 Ultra with the Gran Touring Suspension pack as my first car and regret selling it. Tried to get a car that could replace it and test drove a ‘97 STS with the Northstar at a dealer. Loved its power, but on the way back home after taking it for a day to get checked out the engine overheated and warped the cylinder head. I settled for a ‘99 Mercedes ML320 SUV, which served me well for the time I had it, but I missed that ‘94 Ultra badly. Had a ‘95 Ultra and ‘95 Riviera, both supercharged and with the Gran Touring Pack, but they didn’t quite hold a candle to that ‘94 Ultra. It didn’t help that the Riviera tried to kill me by losing almost all brake pressure and the ‘95 Ultra was a rust bucket lol! I’d love to find a clean ‘96 Ultra due to it having the Series 2 L67 3800 supercharged engine, as they have a lot more aftermarket options.
@SouthsideKidd5503 жыл бұрын
@@jtb1990419 Indeed they do. I owned a 2000 Buick Regal GS Joseph Abboud Edition. It was Supercharged. I fixed it up back to stock and sold it to my aunt with 140k miles because she needed a new daily driver (she owns a 2018 BMW X5 but its not a daily driver. Her old Altima was and it put her down). It was clean and immaculate in great mechanic shape. She still drives it and that was 2 years ago. I miss it alot but I still have the pleasure of detailing it when she wants both of her cars done.
@jaxandmore4403 жыл бұрын
@@SouthsideKidd550 The 3800 was a great motor initially, but of course GM had to tinker with it and find ways to "improve" it, making it a junk motor. They switch to a plastic intake manifold, resulting in oil and coolant mixing when the walls between the oil and coolant channels melted. I knew a guy with a '97 Park Ave who bought it new and had to have the engine rebuilt at 40k miles because of this issue. Then later on in the 3800's life, GM must have monkey'd around with it more because they became massive oil burners right off the showroom floor.
@7891ph3 жыл бұрын
Wow... Compared to what the luxury brands are selling today, this is amazing. Real gages, real space, comfortable without all of the hyper expensive crap that fails just after the warranty expires, and at a price the someone might be able to afford....
@GKMess423 жыл бұрын
Agree with you on everything but the pricing. $30,000 in 1990 is roughly equivalent to $61,000 today, so about the same as the average upscale SUV.
@7891ph3 жыл бұрын
@@GKMess42 What I was thinking was that the price listed from back then would be a great price for it brand new today, especially since you can't get anything in that class as stripped down as this one is. It's still got more equipment than I need, which shows just how bloated with garbage the current offerings are.....
@trevagraham16053 жыл бұрын
@@7891ph I agree with this! I don't need all of the fancy gadgets that even base model cars have today. I'm all about gadgets, just not in my car.
@GKMess423 жыл бұрын
I agree there! I wasn't sure if that was what you were getting at. Too many cars these days have extra junk that isn't really needed. Just give me vinyl floors, a good running motor and tranny, and a Bluetooth radio. Not all this "lane detection" and camera crap that's going to break down after 5-10 years.
@7891ph3 жыл бұрын
@@GKMess42 Well, my new friend, you and I are in (generally) total agreement. Your list of preferred options perfectly describes my ideal pickup, which is why I said generally. Don't get me wrong, I own a small, fairly stripped down car (Why, Oh Why couldn't the original owner be a member of the "Save The Manuals!!!" club????), which has been serving me well (2005 Ford Focus, 2.0L Z-Tech 4cyl. w/the ZX3 suspension package), but I prefer trucks. If they brought back actual compact trucks, with a price low enough that mere mortals could afford one, I'd be all over it. Especially if they brought back an actual long box model that could actually hold a 4'×8' sheet of plywood flat on the floor of the bed with the tailgate up. Like that's ever going to happen....
@grunkohlaktionar74743 жыл бұрын
Tyler Hoover has joined the chat.
@felipeiturreyes33853 жыл бұрын
😅👍
@christopherhamilton55573 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ayyblyat94503 жыл бұрын
I BOUGHT THE CHEAPEST, BUICK SLEEPER IN THE COUNTRY
@jordanz75163 жыл бұрын
I still think it was stupid of him to get rid of that 😂
@brentenjs5503 жыл бұрын
@@jordanz7516 He did!? 😭
@mattcox33733 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine back in high school had a black 94. It was nice and pretty quick
@jtb19904193 жыл бұрын
I had an all black ‘94 as my first car right after I graduated. Miss it terribly!
@chriscommodore87333 жыл бұрын
As an Aussie, I've always loved the early nineties Buicks, particularly the Park Avenue and Roadmasters. Incidentally, our Holden Commodore gained the option of supercharging in the mid to late nineties, delivering plenty of oomph on top of the range Calais, S models and long wheelbase Statesman/Caprice models. 👍
@hittingtax26702 жыл бұрын
Is this car sold in Australia?
@RockandrollNegro2 жыл бұрын
Your Second Gen Holden Commodore shared the same platform as the GM W-body cars here in the US. Underneath the body, there wasn't much difference between the Buick Regal and the Commodore VS. On the plus side, you guys actually got a manual Getrag 5-speed as an option, while we were stuck with the automatic as our only option. Bob Lutz of GM was adamant that no Buick Regal would ever leave the factory with a manual tranny.
@TonyM1322 жыл бұрын
As an American, the Park Avenue and Roadmaster are my favorite Buicks too, of all time! In my eyes, the 1991-96 Park Avenue is the best looking front wheel drive car ever made.
@xsct878 Жыл бұрын
@@RockandrollNegro Incorrect, the VS used the V platform which was more commonly used with GM's European brands Opel and Vauxhall, Holden actually used Opel's vehicles such as the Rekord, Senator, Opel Omega A, and lastly the Opel Omega B, as a basis for designing the commodore throughout the years, although the final product from Holden is very distant from it's german siblings. This is true up until the VE where Holden designed their own platform dubbed the "Zeta platform", which GM were intending for it to be used globally but the 2008 GFC and new emissions regulations killed that, so the only car outside of Holden to actually use this platform was the fifth gen Camaro which Holden actually had a big hand in designing, which as an Australian I find to be pretty neat.
@thetechlibrarian3 жыл бұрын
My favorite version of this car is the Oldsmobile LSS. I had a paper route when I was in middle school and I remember one of my customers had one
@alexpetree20383 жыл бұрын
The really annoying thing about the lss is that not all had the sc engine, so the SC ones are super rare. The only ones that ever get listed are the normal 3800 ones
@thetechlibrarian3 жыл бұрын
@@alexpetree2038 Right that is kind of disappointing when you see them for sale I like the tornado also, i but definitely the supercharged LSS there's one on KZbin with like 60,000 mi
@keithjackson2863 жыл бұрын
Yes it was! That's another hidden gem. Had bucket seats and a floor shifter too..
@brettcannon743 жыл бұрын
My mom had a Oldsmobile LSS. I think it was her favorite car ever
@ramoncarter65853 жыл бұрын
I grew up on Buicks this was the first car learned when was 2 years old used to have old Park Avenue brochure so many years ago. This car was beautiful the styling was ahead of its game. Those 3800 engines were bulletproof even Ultra edition was gorgeous.
@Lianpe983 жыл бұрын
It looks nice but definitely not ahead of it's time
@OggaDugga3 жыл бұрын
Julian Felipe Granados Flórez I think he might’ve meant engine reliability and maintenance. These things were awesome in terms of just the engine.
@thefuzzypickle82773 жыл бұрын
@@OggaDugga nope, they straight up said 'the styling was ahead of its time'
@OggaDugga3 жыл бұрын
The Fuzzy Pickle tried to be optimistic until you came alone. Thanks a lot
@Ithinkiwill663 жыл бұрын
You should of seen what my grandfather had....a 1958 Oldsmobile Fiesta 4 door wagon, V8....power windows, steering, brakes, am radio antenna, and front bench seat.....what a beast that car was!
@spaghetts3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2012 I bought a 1992 Buick Park Avenue for $500, best car I've ever bought. After removing all the drugs from the car from the previous owner, it was a perfect daily driver. Was like driving a couch down the road
@keithjackson2863 жыл бұрын
Wow! lol
@jonathankleinow20733 жыл бұрын
Did you make your $500 back from the drugs you found? :D
@spaghetts3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathankleinow2073 haha no, vacuum ate them all
@gregorypappas7663 жыл бұрын
What kind of drugs? I'm curious...
@spaghetts3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorypappas766 what i believe to be roofies, but then again I'm not familiar with pills
@avoohanian3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why manufacturers insist on “sporty” suspension tuning. My first car was an 88 Mazda 929 18v v6 and it was a fantastic riding car (in Australia I could only dream of having a Fleetwood!). Even my 97 Citroen XM with properly maintained spheres had a low speed jiggle that my mechanic said was intentionally designed so the car could compete with BMW and Mercedes sport sedans...... Just looking at these Buick, Cadillac and Oldsmobile vids with the floating ride and gentle roll is quite soothing! Even a softish car with good weight distribution can be coaxed into dancing around a twisty coastal road (and its significantly more fun as my formative driving years in the Mazda taught me).......
@juliogonzo27183 жыл бұрын
Sometimes they were too floaty. I took a lt1 powered '96 roadmaster (same platform as fleetwood) for a drive that a guy had for sale. He had sent the ecm for power tuning and the thing was way too quick for how it handled. I passed on buying it cause it probably would have ended up wrapped around a tree sideways.
@rairadrai Жыл бұрын
I felt the same with a 2008 Toyota Avalon. Great powerful V6 but the suspension tuning didn’t match the engine. I tried the same engine in a V6 SE Camry and it felt more solid.
@avoohanian Жыл бұрын
@juliogonzo2718 🤣 but you don’t have to do a Jeremy Clarkson everywhere. The accelerator pedal can be anywhere between zero and full throttle, not exclusive. The fun was in making the car gracefully dance when it really did not want to......
@E34Benzin11 ай бұрын
Sporty suspension actually means uncomfortable and harsch. In this type of car you want the floaty feel. I had a Lexus LS 400 and it's the cushiest ride I have experienced. Love it. I have to try a Park Avenue Ultra to see how it compares, but I can imagine I would love it too.
@michaelsimko76943 жыл бұрын
Those 1990s Park Avenues and Lesabres were beautiful cars
@patrickstonetree13 жыл бұрын
The 3800 v6 was always an excellent motor. That guy's driving gloves, hasn't aged well.
@11094DEREK3 жыл бұрын
Neither has Johns shirt
@georgeschannel94113 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia, Holden used the supercharged 3800 into the early 2000s. However it was used in rear wheel drive configuration.
@HulkSmash863 жыл бұрын
George's Channel GM used a supercharged 3800 all the way to year 2004 or 2005 in various models here in the states. The last was a Series 3 3800 (L32) factory rated at 260 horsepower.
@gregrowe11683 жыл бұрын
I think the last car to have the supercharged 3800 was the Grand Prix, it was rated at 240 hp. The 3.6 L V6 that GM uses in the Colorado, Camaro, and Equinox etc makes more power without a supercharger now.
@rookietoprobuildz3 жыл бұрын
Love watching retro reviews, when the cars were in their prime.
@fernandorocha901 Жыл бұрын
I love Motor Week Reviews. Buick Park Avenue is beautifull and confortable car
@Nana-Opa3 жыл бұрын
We have one. It is the sweetest ride. My husband is from queens ny and loves going fast. I got the giggles when he turned into a Sunday driver going down the winding road, looking behind an there is a line of cars following him! Or when a young kid pulled up beside him at a stop light with a noisy jumped up engine. Lol it was funny to blow him away! Lol
@Rahul-op3ry3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful car she is. Such a sleeper she's.
@nathanmcdonald6103 жыл бұрын
Hardly with a 8.4 second 0-60 and 16.4 1/4 mile, It was a few ticks quicker than your average full-size sedan of the day, but these days a full-size pickup will do the same measure's in under 6 seconds and 13 seconds respectively.
@Rahul-op3ry3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmcdonald610 I agree. If we don't consider it's performance and just go by it's looks I believe it is still a good looking car. I wish I could own one of these today here in India because I love these big American cars.
@Lucille69caddy3 жыл бұрын
Nathan McDonald It was a sleeper for it’s time, millennial boy. Nothing comparable could touch it. Another thing: MW is notorious for getting the slowest performance times out of their testers. This car should have been an easy sub 8 sec 0-60/high 15 sec et. Still not blazing quick, but not bad for this big beast.
@Rahul-op3ry3 жыл бұрын
@@Lucille69caddy you saying to me?🙄
@Lucille69caddy3 жыл бұрын
RAHUL SINGH No, to Nathan McDonald.
@ic18153 жыл бұрын
Fabulous! Would love to see more Cadillac reviews from this era too.
@DaddyDan773 жыл бұрын
My dad was raised on American V8s of the pre-emissions era. His favorites were the small ones (Chevy 283, Ford 289...) One of his buddies bought a supercharged Park Ave when they came out and he got to drive his friends car. At one point he stopped the test drive and pulled over. His friend asked: "What's wrong?" My Dad said: "I'm popping the hood and I'm going to go searching for that V8 that you claim isn't there."
@joe6096 Жыл бұрын
The Gen I 3800 starting in 1988 even WITHOUT the supercharger was a pretty peppy motor.
@CaspersCave3 жыл бұрын
90's luxury! The driving gloves seen @2:10 were a nice touch 🧤👍
@yoranw46082 жыл бұрын
Is it only me, or *this car's elegance just doesn't fade?* WHAT A BEAUTY!
@parthadey24153 жыл бұрын
I love these MotorWeek retro reviews, I usually keep it on in the background because I find it really calming
@digitalfootballer90323 жыл бұрын
1992 Buick Park Avenue Supercharged. For when grandpa needs a little more get up and go!
@Doctor_Robert3 жыл бұрын
Bought a '92 Ultra because of Tyler Hoover... and then had to sell it a bit later. Worst auto-related mistake I've ever made... I miss that beast so much! (I need another one)
@smithraymond090292 жыл бұрын
I would gladly drive that car today. I love big 4 door sedans. This one was handsome and had adequate power.
@DanJacobsonDANJ163 жыл бұрын
Just bought one from a friend recently because my other car died. (It's a 1998 Park Avenue Ultra) They are surprisingly a lot of fun to drive. I'm planning on throwing in a few minor upgrades to spice it up a bit more.
@jdubskiwright23803 жыл бұрын
Put a smaller pulley on the blower and open up that intake..let her breath ya kno
@jrawlins52462 жыл бұрын
You must be REALLY hurting for mullah if in 2020 you purchased a 1998 whip.
@outthewaydre64502 жыл бұрын
@@jrawlins5246 nah not really
@Drchainsaw772 жыл бұрын
@@jrawlins5246 It ain't all about model years..
@jrawlins52462 жыл бұрын
@@outthewaydre6450 oh mos def!
@jonathankleinow20733 жыл бұрын
That thing bounced around after the brake test like a wave in the YMCA pool during Grandma's aquacize class.
@juliogonzo27183 жыл бұрын
Old gm abs really sucked ass
@raymondhaley6185 Жыл бұрын
Modern day front wheel drive V6 class and technology and luxury,1985-96 ,was Buick's pennacle for flagship luxurious sedans, something you will never see again in the industry.😢😢😮😢😮😮
@atomsmash1003 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of stunned at how well that barge took the slalom.
@eugeneforge3 жыл бұрын
I had one of these PA ultras and to this day it was one of my favorite cars I have ever owned. In its day, it was quicker off the line than many of its counterparts and could pretty easily break its tires loose which brought a smile to my face every time I decided to punch the throttle.
@Trance883 жыл бұрын
That car has some crazy soft suspension. I still see this generation of Park Avenue running around. Probably not 1992's but more like 95's and 6's.
@generaloranger61503 жыл бұрын
Look at the body moving under hard braking. Back when American luxury stood for soft suspension lol
@JDMHaze3 жыл бұрын
that old school nosedive lol
@danielbarnhart35793 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1996 model, with the more powerful 240 HP engine. I wish I still had it.
@joeychaseable3 жыл бұрын
@Tyler of HOOVIESGARAGE would enjoy this video more than most...
@ms3ben3 жыл бұрын
My grandparents had one. Was comfortable and pretty quick for the time.
@alexyoungberg52323 жыл бұрын
*OMG thank you guys!!! I've been waiting for the 90's GM gold!*
@slangofagespodcast3 жыл бұрын
I love watching these though it makes me realize I’m old. Thanks MW
@NotBen1013 жыл бұрын
That’s a car!
@20CMT08 Жыл бұрын
These cars were perfectly balanced in performance, usability, quality and value. I made the mistake of getting an LHS because I thought the Buick styling was outdated and the LHS looked sharp.
@303nitzubishi43 жыл бұрын
One of the few GM success stories from the era. Beginnings of a legendary powertrain around this time, and the platform itself proved mostly reliable in the long term. You don't really see many Bonneville or 88/98 anymore, I guess Buick owners are less likely to run their cars into the ground
@johnny84163 жыл бұрын
man i love the car community gives me hope people can respect what others like and compliment everything because cars are beautiful like life
@whychry3 жыл бұрын
but the supercharged ultra was an extremely beautiful,comfortable car
@OLDS983 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this GM footage. It was good to see this test. It was a good car. I still prefer my Oldsmobile 98 over the Buick, but they share a lot and had so much in common. I guess it comes down to personal taste. I thank you for sharing the video as it was a nice comfortable reliable car. Sadly, there are no more Buicks like this anymore as Buick is now an all suv crossover brand.
@Ricardo_C3 жыл бұрын
Love sleepers
@pullformore3 жыл бұрын
Holden gave you that same engine but in a RWD. It was fabulous!
@jamesrobinson91763 жыл бұрын
Uhhhh , ever heard of the gnx?
@pullformore3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrobinson9176 the GNX had a Garrett Turborcharger, not the supercharger in this video. The Holden Commodore had essentially the same engine as in this video. The GNX was great; so too was 3.8 Supercharged Commodore, in its day!
@jamesrobinson91763 жыл бұрын
@@pullformore you're totally correct, I was more saying that the gnx is the grand daddy
@FrankOlsonTwins3 жыл бұрын
Possibly the finest looking example of the Park Avenue of that era! That paint looks DEEP! 🕶
@jessieharbinjr.65893 жыл бұрын
The 92-99 H-body and C-body cars with the 3800 were the best built cars of that era from GM. I miss my 97 Bonneville to this day. 281,100 miles before I loaned it to a friend who totaled it out
@jtb19904193 жыл бұрын
Had a ‘94 Ultra as my first car. It was all black and fully loaded. Miss it terribly!
@njb9733 жыл бұрын
Loved the white valve covers on the 3800, so much cooler than the sea of black plastic nowadays.
@exxusdrugstore3002 жыл бұрын
If this is the "firm" suspension option I'd love to see the standard car go around the test track lol
@42luke933 жыл бұрын
Hoovies Garage had one of these. They look cool! Although I really only see the Lesabre variant.
@jamesslick47903 жыл бұрын
Being less expensive, The LeSabre out sold the Park Ave by a wide margin. In fact the LeSabre was the top selling full size US car for years!
@Bartonovich523 жыл бұрын
They are almost the same car. I think the Park Avenues and 98s were just stretches of the Le Sabre and 88.
@jamesslick47903 жыл бұрын
@@Bartonovich52 I'm unsure of the length difference between the Park Are and LeSabre of this generation, But yes the 88,98 LeSabre and Park Ave were basically the same under the "skin". The main difference between a LeSabre and Park Ave is that the Park Ave, being higher priced, has a bit "fancier" interior and more standard equipment.
@BostonCelticsWWEEdge3 жыл бұрын
I miss these days. I’m only 31 so I was too young to drive one but these are incredible
@RaymondHaley-bi8lx Жыл бұрын
These cars are Buicks finest, they took Buicks traditional luxury and combined with technology, their 3800 was living proof of that.
@brentaudi93543 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video! This was an awesome engine. Would love to know what the MPG would be if today this engine was married to new computers and a 8 speed transmission.
@andrewmckenzie17152 жыл бұрын
My best friends granfather growing up had one. Such a classy ride
@taemitchell74193 жыл бұрын
That thing is everything but a European Luxury car
@Lion-dr7uv3 жыл бұрын
And that’s fine except they try to push it as such.
@TermBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Youre right. Its wildly more comfortable than that.
@Unirule3 жыл бұрын
@@TermBallistics It's too large and reliable to be european.
@Naturalhit3 жыл бұрын
Mercedes of the same year were tight in the cabin. This Buick was far more comfortable.
@Unirule3 жыл бұрын
@MOZZYTHE1ST They're everywhere here, anecdotally. The only people here with 190e's or whatever are absolute massochists who do all the work on them shade tree or sell their soul to specialists. We got the good mercedes though they are very rare to see outside shows, you don't see any buicks in europe because we never really exported them. That said, the buick 3.8 is one of the most reliable engines ever built, OM617 tier, in the United States. The same engine dragging around thousands of dingy commodores down under, unkillable. The reason europe doesn't get Buicks to drive because they never wanted them, too big for the windy horse paths euros drive on. They're made for the long straights you just don't have and the curves make them flounder like fish. They're made for north american and most won't ever leave there. That said, the buick 3.8 is one of the most reliable engines ever built, OM617 tier, in the United States. The same engine dragging around thousands of dingy commodores down under, unkillable. I'd absolutely take one over a merc of a similar vintage as a daily driver because the car would be just as comfortable but won't have something as insane complications to repair or any oversights as insane as a biodegradable wiring harness to deal with.
@NFSMAN503 жыл бұрын
Now i see why our parents and grandparents loved Buicks!! Comfortable to drive and reliable!!!
@rreno4963 жыл бұрын
Gotta give this one a thumbs up just for the awesome 80's hair band reference!
@jtckentucky34813 жыл бұрын
Another stunner of a wardrobe choice by John Davis! I want that polo!!!
@charlies.57773 жыл бұрын
I think Sting🐝 would like it!! :-)
@thetetons7443 жыл бұрын
These cars are amazing. So comfortable and last forever. So quiet too!
@coache1nine3 жыл бұрын
Had a buddy who's car was in the shop for some bodywork. Insurance company gave him one of these for a few weeks. By the time his car was ready, he didn't want it, he loved the Ultra. Very good car with a strong following thanks to the 3800SC engine
@davidsudd Жыл бұрын
Had one of these - bought it off my Dad when he was getting rid of it at 110k miles (thought it'd make a better driver at the time than my '69 Nova). It was a fun car - super plush roomy leather interior, with the supercharger had great 60-90mph passing power and got decent mpg at the time. Problem I had with it was all the stupid things that started to break and cost too much $$ to keep the car going. It had air adjustable shocks to adjust ride height when trunk was loaded with luggage - great until $700 to replace (well over $1k in todays cash). The blower started clicking at around 115K miles so I swapped out for a rebuilt one (at $1500 for the part - installed myself) .. the transmission return fitting decided to break one day on the freeway and had to coast to the shoulder and get a tow - thermal plastic part - my old chevy used brass - that $1 'savings' cost me a lot more in reliability. For the cost of maint, it just wasn't worth it - too bad. Picked up a very used Honda instead and that thing wouldn't die (and still have the chevy). Prob no worse than most luxury cars of the time but just unfortunate things aren't built to last beyond the warrantee. Not long ago picked up a cheap used chrysler - worked well enough until the engine spun a bearing at around 120K miles (engineering fault - sludge blocked oil lines on that engine - well documented). Will be happy to see poorly engineered ICE cars go the way of the dino - no reason a car should 'die' or be prohibitively costly to keep going after 100K miles with solid maintenance. (the 3800 Buick was a great engine though - was halve tempted to keep the Ultra til the car was dead and transplant the motor into something fun haha)
@ecbcbm3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, that outfit couldn't be more perfect for this car 🤣
@NVzla3 жыл бұрын
Replace intake gaskets, secure camshaft interruptor magnet in place, and proper oil changes and maintenance. These old buicks will run beyond 300,000 miles.
@palebeachbum3 жыл бұрын
I got to drive one of these for awhile back in the early 2000s. It was definitely old American luxury vibe with its sofa-like split bench seating, column shifter and abundance of suspension float. It was a very handsome traditional American luxury look. I really liked it. The build quality felt kind of flimsy though. It didn't have that rock solid feel of Fords at the time. The standard 3.8L V6 was adequate, if maybe a bit lethargic. It was enough though in a car like this and the powertrain was silky smooth. I miss this type of American car.
@haroldbeauchamp37703 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these for my parents back in 94. A beautiful green with gray leather. When they passed it had only 12k miles on it. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get my hands on it in the will, despite me purchasing it.
@EricFortuneJr.3 жыл бұрын
Buick peaked in the 90s. The last reliable model was the 08 Lacrosse with 3800 right before it was replaced. The 3.6 engines and 6 speed autos had a ton of issues and still do. Not saying every Buick currently being sold is a lemon but there’s a noticeable difference in the reliability. Really GM as a company has declined. It’s pretty sad because they really made solid cars in the early 2000s.
@universalexports61193 жыл бұрын
I had the same engine in a 98 Pontiac Grand Prix gtp. It had 240 HP and 260 tq. Such a nice comfortable fun and quick car. The engine was so smooth and quiet WITH good gas mileage.
@jtb19904193 жыл бұрын
My family had a purple ‘97 GTP four door as a family car back in the day. I loved how quick that car was and how nice it was to ride in. Sadly, we had to sell it. I’d buy a good one again in a heartbeat, though!
@jareknowak87123 жыл бұрын
Love the looks, love this V6 (i know it in N/A form from Boneville) but still it is a charged 3.8L and only 205hp. BMW in the early 90s had ~340hp out of the same displacement, naturally aspirated.
@Lianpe983 жыл бұрын
That's because it wasn't tuned for top end power but for low end torque and to be quiet.
@VARITHMS3 жыл бұрын
I'd be will to guess as a percentage of vehicles made, there are more Buicks still running
@Novusod3 жыл бұрын
340hp for 3 times the price. Not worth it.
@jareknowak87123 жыл бұрын
@@Lianpe98 ...surprisingly BMW had 400Nm of torque and Buick only 350Nm!
@jareknowak87123 жыл бұрын
@@VARITHMS somehow in Europe BMW cars (of this period) hold themselfs better than cars form GM.
@AaronSmith-kr5yf3 жыл бұрын
There is a NICE early 90's Black/two tone gray/grey leather supercharged Ultra Park Ave sitting in a driveway on my delivery route in Spring Hill TN. Has the sunroof and bowling ball wheels. Been so damn tempted to put a note on their windshield to buy that car, it is absolutely mint, not a scratch or grandma dent on it, black paint is nice.
@landyachtfan793 жыл бұрын
This car is the EPITOME of '90's Broughamness, in my view!!!!!! I mean, really, who could EVER believe that people don't want a comfortable, elegant, luxurious, stylish, & spacious car to just take a nice relaxing drive with the cruise set at 65 & your favorite music wafting from the stereo?!!!!! Just because executives at the Big Three are so immature that they would not be caught dead driving these cars because they are "old geezer's cars", why should we traditional Brougham lovers suffer for it?!!!
@kevinkenny93553 жыл бұрын
I wish these were still made!
@elonmust74702 жыл бұрын
very solid cars. A friend was given one by his dad. We had fun.
@joelakers4103 жыл бұрын
love to see more of 92 lesabres
@adamtrombino1063 жыл бұрын
Great drivetrain! If the SC failed, you could disconnect the belt and re-route it, and it would run just fine w/o it. Unfortunately these cars, like most of the era, were plagued but shoddy electronics and interiors that would fall apart. ( not that leather though.. TOP NOTCH!) Every once in awhile, I still see an early to mid 90s Buick with a 3800 tooling along, rusty, rear end sagging, but still going.
@GrassManKey3 жыл бұрын
I got two of them ,,, Ultras rule!
@alexgarza80413 жыл бұрын
2021 i drive a park Ave 92 ,they run fast , the power is thier 💥💥
@bigrig97493 жыл бұрын
My first car in 2000, this car had pickup! It was my grandfathers who passed the year before
@michaelcharach3 жыл бұрын
Was that OJ working the shift lever at 2:20?
@DiaperSNiFFER3 ай бұрын
lol
@davidaubin39023 жыл бұрын
3:37 John: AND A YEAR LATER, WE STILL DON'T CARE FOR THE OVERWEIGHT TAIL LAMPS! LOL
@quicksilver4622 жыл бұрын
The only thing that didnt leak in my Series II L67 where the front and rear main seals, and head gaskets! Great engine and super reliable, and great gas mileage, 30 mpg on the highway!
@1940limited3 жыл бұрын
I have a 94 Park Avenue with 38,000 miles. It's not an Ultra but it does have the touring suspension package ad other features mentioned here. A trumpet horn and power pull down trunk lid give it a Cadillac flair. They're great cars. I love the full instrumentation. My Park Avenue is not driven in bad weather. We also have a 90 LeSabre, owned since new and a 2005 LeSabre with only 18,000 miles. It's in like new condition. All 3800s.
@TurboMan9423 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. Set the cruise at 77, sit back in those wide leather seats with that smooth ride and get some serious farting done.
@edr43743 жыл бұрын
Top 5 most comfortable cars on the road, it’s time to start collecting a car for old age and this is the one for me
@doctorzaius40843 жыл бұрын
These were surprisingly good cars!
@eggbag41822 жыл бұрын
Old Buicks are so underappreciated, namely the supercharged trims and the Roadmaster (especially the estate)
@jeffcolt91853 жыл бұрын
My buddy had one of these I got to drive it and it was pretty fast, it would only go to 100 but it would get there real quick, 205 hp not bad for a 92
@nick_nt75743 жыл бұрын
the 7th generation (2004 - 2008) pontiac grand prix has a 3800 (naturally aspirated) that makes 200 horsepower. 12 years can make a huge difference in performance!
@thedomitabletraveler71983 жыл бұрын
I have a 94 Park Avenue Ultra with around 74,000 orig miles. Green with Graphite interior. In 94, hp and tq were bumped up even higher to 225 / 275 which resulted in an even better 0-60 time. I wish had I had the gran touring suspension but oh well. To this day, I get plenty of stares in my car which tells me that people really miss these types of cars. The SUVs are a snorefest by comparison
@JerkVegas863 жыл бұрын
Those Old Buicks And Oldsmobile Have A Special Place In My ❤. And My Grandparents Pockets!
@aretnap36533 жыл бұрын
I Got to Ride in one of these, a Time or Two. (It was My Friends GrandParents "Ride" to Church on Sundays!)
@darnezzi3 жыл бұрын
Timeless good looks. These must've been GM's most reliable cars ever. I still see them riding around quite often .
@pauljackson16222 жыл бұрын
those 3800 v6's last forever. Literally one of the best engines GM ever produced