1992 Pharmor U.S. Championships - Women - Full Broadcast

[@sarahmcclure4060]

Michelle Campi was one of my favorite gymnasts. So beautiful and graceful, every jump extended perfectly.

[@joyfuljaj]

i loved her floor routine in this. I don't necessarily remember her from back in the day, or rather I could not have told you anything about her.

[@kikib8812]

She looked super skinny! It looked like that she had an eating disorder!

[@seer1623]

I think she was the best in the US at the time, even better artistry than Miller’s. What a shame she never reached her potential.

[@willbuzz8813]

Her lines and grace are gorgeous.

[@caitlinchip1015]

It’s really awful how Karolyi criticised Okino, saying she only had minor injuries. She had multiple fractures :(

[@Cmc995]

Dominique Moceanu in ‘96 too! She was forced to train in a stress fracture for a while. That’s why karolyis loved Larry Nassar, he’d give the ok for injured gymnasts to compete

[@jazmintruesdale584]

my god practically the whole magnificent seven are here! I love watching these old videos because you see such a maturity in the mag 7s performances...96 was truly the best gymnastics they ever did...they were ON IT!

[@aslan9334]

Yeah i remember Amanda didn't made it to the 92 but by the 96 she said she felt more prepared!

[@DorothyZdzieborski]

Qaa😮à

[@brianpatterson1827]

And yeah they should've really showed more of the competition. There ain't only 6 girls here.

[@NotTheThngsUSaid]

For sure. I always have a problem with that! And nowadays it’s even worse. Especially at the Olympics. They barely show any other country! And they never do those sweet stories on the girls anymore. :(

[@brianpatterson1827]

Michelle Campi is definitely one of the best ever with choreography that's beautiful and balletic like the soviets were.

[@thesovgc]

She was a treasure! Such a shame about all the injuries 😢

[@unknown-lf6zx]

What happened to her? She was so cute

[@brianpatterson1827]

The amazing names introduced in this competition that who will go on to be some of the very best crop of US gymnasts we'd ever seen up to this time period in gymnastics history. Awesomeness. Also it was also a great time because u could really see the coach-gymnast relationship with these girls! Miss this time.

[@zutropolazutropola4449]

Not really. Dawes and Miller did alright for themselves but the rest not so much.

[@lvega5606]

​@@zutropolazutropola4449Kerry Strug? Famous. Zmeskal? World Champion.

[@mst3kanita]

It always cracks me up to see john tesh at these things. Also, Phar-Mor. They had enough money back in the day to sponsor this, but by the end of the 90s they were out of business. Those green and black leotards are on point.

[@jonathancandella1927]

Did anyone else notice how Kim twisted so much quicker in the air on the second vault then in the first but stuck both of them? I wish sticks were as common now as they were back in the day

[@dawnbaswell1853]

Those vaults back then are much easier than the ones of today

[@unknown-lf6zx]

And today has better safer apparatuses than back then. Safer vault and floor equipment with springs.

[@venithomas201]

I much rather watch the routines of the 80's and 90's. The cumpolsaries had the gymnast fulfill flexibility and dance elements with acro series. It is artisti gymnastics after all. They are awesome to watch.

[@jamesr2164]

Wow, watching this coverage you would think there were only about 4 or 5 women competing at this meet. smh

[@wicklandtube]

Mary Lee is so amazing with Amanda! I love love love the connection! And the HAIR on Mary Lee is just as amazing ;)

[@SweetLew]

i definitely agree

[@kikib8812]

Agree because mary is soo positive! She's never peed off, she never gets anxious. She's is so lovely!

[@lvega5606]

@@kikib8812 and yet, so many former gymnasts have bitched about how abusive she was. And I think Dominique cut off her relationship with Kelli Hill. Ungrateful women.

[@alicemcfarlane9717]

I truly believe that if MLT had trained Vanessa Atler, the 2000 US Olympic Team would've been a very different proposition.

[@williamt594]

Hilary was such a talented gymnast and seemed like such a nice girl. May you rest in peace.

[@saragrant9749]

??? What happened?

[@MissLilRedRooster]

​​​​@@saragrant9749She was killed in a car accident when she was 19 or so.

[@kristenmiller3644]

Good lord the Karolyi / Pozar floor music and choreography was so hokey!!!!

[@i.am.heather]

Every Karolyi gymnast’s routine is like that 😂 AND Kim Z followed in his footsteps by embarrassing Ragan Smith with the same ridiculous hokey routines. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@mrparts]

It’s shocking how ridiculous these bela-poszar routines are.

[@Mandalaaxo]

OMG, I would have died of embrassment if I had to perform those dances to this music when I was a teenager.

[@lauragatehouse7935]

Quite interesting to watch knowing what we know about the way the karoylis coached. Using old equipment and hard landings no doubt contributed to unnecessary injuries. Also ruling through fear - not good.

[@familyof1052]

@jennifer wilson finally someone else that agrees with me! Even kerri went back and never complained. They produced winners and all the older ones have never said one negative word. I get not every coaching style works for everyone but they always could have went to a different gym

[@mmsd1108]

@jennifer wilson All of your comments are laughable. It's clear you're a brainwashed political cult member who can't think outside of the rhetoric you swallow with no thought whatsoever.

[@MissLilRedRooster]

@jennifer wilson People who don't complain about trauma and abuse are just "harder workers" than those that point it out? That's quite the flex there.

[@chuckie102883]

@jennifer wilson ​ funny that you are minimizing a system of abuse because the older generation were fine with it. 🤦🏻‍♂️… one of Bella’s former co partner stated in Romania Marta would smack gymnasts and physically abuse them, Moceanu explained she’d be called a fat pig and threatened with physical abuse, she was also ignored when she had a serious fracture right before the Olympics and if you notice nearly all of Karoly’s gymnasts right before the Olympics had major injuries that were ignored or downplayed. This isn’t about a younger generation being too weak it’s about NOT normalizing ABUSE anymore! Wake up lady!

[@seer1623]

@Katherine Keirns It burns me that he steals the credit for the gymnasts' success when he had little if anything to do with it. Moceanu in her book says she learned all her hard skills from Alexander Alexandrov until Karolyi canned him just before the '96 games to claim the credit for Dominique's success. Supposedly, according to that idiot John Tesh, Kerri Strug "began gymnastics with him and look at her now." Total bunk. She was 13 when she switched to Karolyis', 14 in her first olympics. He had nothing to do with her success, and a lot to do with how miserable she looked at her first olympics.

[@anovemberstar]

i really really miss the BALANCE parts of the balance beam routines nowdways.

[@hyacinthlynch843]

I really miss the gracefulness and artistry of old school gymnastics. Today's gymnasts are more like circus performers.

[@toridavis8999]

I want back to back tumbling back!!

[@SweetLew]

just found out that Hilary Grivich died 5 years later. anyone else know that...so sad :(

[@searanch32]

Yep. She flipped her car in May of '97, just before her birthday. Kim still pays tribute to her quite often in public speaking appearances and other forums.

[@marieked]

Yeah, it was early morning and her car crashed, no one knows why.

[@searanch32]

Marieke D Her tire blew out in her Nissan Altima, causing her to hit a concrete barrier and then the car flipped. She was pronounced dead at the scene. She was on the way to have breakfast with her mother.

[@SweetLew]

tide32athlete that is so sad :(

[@KateTheSleepyTeacher]

Olivia Lewis a lot of these girls were born the same year as me so I've always felt somewhat invested in their lives. I had not heard that she died ... that Is so sad :(

[@emmaclaire6795]

Oh my goodness Kim's TWO PERFECT TENS!!!

[@beambreaker]

Michelle Campi was the highlight of this whole competition.. seriously underrated and should have places higher even with the minor mistakes

[@timothyhh]

She did a split leap on beam with actual amplitude and 180 split, I almost fell over. Judges didn't seem to care about beam leaps in this era so no one bothered to do good ones. The only gymnast I can think of competing at the same time who actually tried to make the leaps something special would be Yang Bo.

[@seer1623]

@@timothyhh Both were so exquisite and unforgiveably underrated and underscored.

[@kras118]

Considering Kerri had a lot of talent on floor, I wish her floor choreo gave her a better opportunity to shine

[@Cmc995]

It’s same with Kim! They performed the compulsory floor beautifully but had to have the Geza Pozsar baby girl floor choreography

[@seer1623]

@@Cmc995 I know, his choreography was an abomination, just hideous. All these talented gymnasts who could have achieved much better results internationally if they didn't have this lame arm waving and butt wiggling with no connection to the music whatsoever.

[@ChavaAyanna]

I was 19yrs old in 1992 and I LIVE here in Columbus Ohio. How could I have not known about this event? LOL

[@ChristyCutie83]

awww, Amanda borden was so tiny

[@torystrending7285]

I know! She was so cute💕😊

[@karenmarie9327]

I know...I was thinking that too! She looks adorable!

[@Myricle12]

Me three girls! So tiny, so cute!💕

[@vpoetic]

She was! I love the relationship that she had with her coach.

[@catriona5268]

I'm so glad gymnasts are no longer forced to be incredibly light. One nice thing that's come out of the focus on power more recently is that girls who are unhealthily thin (like most of these) can't stay in elite competition because they don't have enough strength. Most of these girls look gaunt. They're great gymnasts, but it's heartbreaking so see how thin they are!

[@cauthoncrazy]

Exactly.

[@easytoslip]

12:14 that vault tho ♥ Kim is awesome

[@nicksline]

Is there any chance of uploading the 1992 WAG Olympics trials? A video must be lying around somewhere!

[@lukeandsidpuppals362]

RIP HILLARY GRIVICH

[@briar6479]

It's amazing how you can tell who coached a gymnasts based on the gymnast's style of gymnastics. I didn't know Hilary Grinch but when I saw her run, I noticed that she ran just like Dominique Monceanu and guessed she was coached by Bela. I was right!

[@susandilaudo9534]

Dawes was underscored throughout her entire career.

[@stephaniesampson5281]

Agreed!

[@longbranch11207]

facts

[@hatatsuno]

Agreed! some of her floor routines I thought she should have gotten 10s on.

[@longbranch11207]

race

[@apriledmonds9738]

Dominique Dawes is one of my faves, but that floor exercise music was sooooo cheesy.

[@Montrosesister12]

Poor Hilary. I just about lost it when I heard she died in a car wreck

[@kaylajones4356]

Cowboyed legs are my #1 pet peeve

[@sprinklefriend]

Watching this, I can't believe I ever used to love vaulting! SOOOOOO much could go wrong with the old horse design! I mean yeah, a lot can still go wrong - whoever came up with this event was absolutely insane - but it used to be so much worse.

[@familyof1052]

I personally hated when they changed the vaults. The tongue ones where just starting to come in when I broke my back in gymnastics. I probably would have ended up liking them more for a yurchenko vault after a while but didnt get to use them much. I just remember being upset with the change lol. Definitely safer though.

[@letsdothis3332]

It's still my favorite event. Completely 💥 💥 Explosive 💥 💥

[@jenmarie649]

How unnecessary it was to share these gymnasts weights. So glad times have changed where weight is not a focal point.

[@ellajones9844]

I love elfie and Tim they make the competition even better..best commentators ever.

[@kras118]

Don't you hate when you find out your missed great gym events way after they happened in your home town?? I'm in Chicago, and there are so many close and reasonable to drive to comps I have missed. erg! But I am going to Classics this July in Chicago! yay =)

[@LeslieToronto1971]

If Bela could tell the one Man "To HELL with it.", use his height and voice to intimidate grown Men, it made me cringe then and now how truly terrified Kim Zmeskal, others, especially Kerri Strug were of Him and Marta. Add a Young Woman who is easily intimidated, who wouldn't be with that Brute knocking them around, swearing at them, yelling at them, etc. He had his perfect Victims. Because they wouldn't dare to speak back to him. They would nod and probably said "Yes Sir/Ma'am" to Him and Marta.

[@mmsd1108]

@jennifer wilson You're astoundingly ignorant of what these girls went through while training with the Karolyis. Spare us your "hard work" bullshit.

[@X_MissMary_X]

Wait- did Kerri's scrunchie come off during her full-in? Oh my gosh!

[@kras118]

Loved seeing Kim win her third title! and her hair looks very beautiful here :)

[@unknown-lf6zx]

What happened to whip backs? I miss them! Kim’s were the best!

[@peaharrison9071]

I miss humor and showmanship. 💕

[@mrparts]

The way this sport was run back in the 90s was so insane by 2020s standards 😂

[@strongbad635]

I can't believe they used to hold these competitions without a podium for each apparatus. Making world-class gymnasts compete on the concrete floor seems to unprofessional and second-rate. Boy our meets have come a long way in 25 years.

[@maseraticboychik]

Only in terms of apparatus and facilities. Otherwise, the sport is dead.

[@victorbeauregarde1502]

Did you just say that gymnastics is dead? Pretty sure that's not the case, my friend.

[@joyfuljaj]

When did they start putting things in podium? I only recently learned the difference. We're the international competitions back then on podium? This does look very amateur after watching things nowadays. It's weird because I know I watched gymnastics in the 80s and 90s and didn't see them as so rinky dink.

[@kras118]

@@joyfuljaj major internationals (worlds, Olympics, etc) were on a podium. Nationals in the USA weren’t on a podium until 1995!

[@Thebest-wj7qb]

The floor music….choices were made

[@angelmannj]

early to mid 90's, if the judges wanted somebody to win a competition...they will win.

[@kikib8812]

I think this was the first time that dominique dawes and amanda borden met. They got together so well so quickly! How cute!

[@JennaLeigh]

I've mocked it for years- I call it"Karolyi Khoreography". The most ham-fisted, cornball FX music.... And the choreo itself is really hokey. Compare the FX music and routines of Karolyi girls vs all others.

[@evoandy]

It’s incredible how much Kim Z upgraded her rumbling in the few weeks between this meet and trials.

[@caseystrapp281]

it was probably the double layout that led to her stress fracture. 😔 But the height on her first tumbling pass here was insane!

[@misstekhead]

Whoa, I just got hit with a sudden wave of nostalgia. 😅 As I was watched Hilary Grivich walk back down the vaulting runway (10:07) it reminded me that we used to manually flip the numbers (or coaches would do it) to signal which vault we were going to perform. The 1990s was the decade when I began competing in the optional levels and even remember USGF rebranding itself to USAG after some controversies. (Sadly, prior to the Nasser fiasco.)

[@evoandy]

It still burns me how horribly Kim Kelly was treated at Olympic trials right after this.

[@SweetLew]

wait...MARTA KAROLYI WAS A BLONDE?!?!?!

[@ernestoaragon7899]

Kim Kelly.... Ha ! The beginning of lots of drama

[@lvega5606]

So far, after watching her vault (major pike down) and bars (fall) I'm not impressed.

[@thesovgc]

@@lvega5606 But she did better than everybody else!

[@7u655]

How can one not like Amanda Borden! That smile was so cute!

[@thesovgc]

Kerri was like a diamond in the rough! So much potential aside from beam. The height on her vault was just great. And she landed her full-ins on floor so high--I bet she could have laid out that mount. Terrific!

[@dydydufjfjfuf4500]

Awesome Dawesome !!

[@thesovgc]

You can see why Michelle Campi made the 91 World Team despite finishing 14th at Nationals. She may be the most artistic American gymnast of all time.

[@seer1623]

Nunno was a wiley one back then. Pulling Miller leaves her as the victor and he wanted her to stay that way. He played politics better than Karolyi.

[@joyfuljaj]

Wow, compulsories were 60%? It was compulsories that tanked Kim's Olympics wasn't it?

[@thesovgc]

More like the injuries she had to compete with 😪

[@TaurusWitch29]

You can really see how scared these girls are of Bela

[@CaryKelly11]

Only in gymnastics are 13-15 year old girls called women.

[@beambreaker]

Bella is always such a DIVA! He practically flipped his hair at the judges after Carries bar score! 💅🏼

[@Girlsttal2]

I actually thought her bar score would have been a bit higher, but yes he didn't mind letting the judges know when he didn't agree with their scoring lol

[@saragrant9749]

Bella and Marta were MONSTERS. They abused and ignored abuse for so many years and ruined the lives of so many young women. They both should be serving life in jail.

[@dawnbaswell1853]

No he was simply defending his gymnasts

[@dawnbaswell1853]

​@@saragrant9749They were not monsters

[@dawnbaswell1853]

​@@saragrant9749No, they shouldn't be in jail. If it weren't for these two we certainly wouldn't have the program we do today

[@evoandy]

I never realized how much Amanda Borden killed it at this meet. I watched it at the time but I was little and really was just watching for Kim Z. Kerri strug was way better than I remember too.

[@aslan9334]

The thumbnail makes me sad because that gymnast passed away :(

[@kateskate6960]

Bella is such as ass! He blamed Betty Akino for her injuries by saying she didn't work hard enough! Both he and Martha ruled with intimidation and bullying. So glad they're gone.

[@snopesshop1903]

Hillary RIP

[@bigbennie96]

Kerri & Kim never seemed that tight they both had beef with eachother

[@ekleamon1]

I don't think Kerri ever connected with anyone. She was always so dissatisfied with herself and threatened by the other girls including her teammates.

[@myassisdragon1558]

bigbennie96, I agree, I don’t think they were “close” but more like all each other had. Kerri was always in the shadow of her and the fact that they said Béla made her take out a big skill the year before that could’ve been high enough to beat Kim is outrageous. After 92 he retires and she goes to Steve Nunno where Shannon Miller was the star, bounces around for awhile and then finds out Béla is out of retirement and goes back to him only to be in Dom Moceanu’s shadow. I bet there was resentment there but it should’ve been aimed at the Károlyis...

[@Miathegr8]

Kerri has such an unfair road in gymnastics. She lived in the shadows forever. She often stated it was upsetting that she trained harder than Kim, but Kim performed better than her in competitions.

[@ChavaAyanna]

Who won the 1992 U.S. Gymnastics Champion that year?

[@Miathegr8]

I thought it was Kim.

[@thesovgc]

The last of Zmeskal's three-peat.

[@Montrosesister12]

Rip 🙏 Hillary

[@timothyhh]

Marie Lee Tracy actually being more cringe than Bela. She's working harder for the camera and mic than Borden is on the actual events. Of course if Miller was competing Nunno would be giving Bela and MLT a run for their money with his own performance. I'm guessing Kelli Hill did the right thing and declined to be mic'd up for this event.

[@abrahamlora329]

Bar scores here were so off..

[@thesovgc]

Kerri, in particular, wuz robbed

[@snopesshop1903]

I’m not sure why no one was referring to Shannon Miller as the “next Nadia” when she so obviously was

[@Cmc995]

Kim was the chosen one and almost perfect until getting to Olympics. It was Shannon’s turn to reign lol

[@Miathegr8]

She wasnt well liked.

[@potocatepetl]

She had great results before the Olimpics, so based on that, everyone had a lot of hopes for her (she got 2 gold medals at the Worls Champonships in '92 and was great here). Now I do not know if it is true or not, but aparantly she competed with a stress fracture in Barcelona, which would not be completely surprising for athelets at this level. They have one chance and they sometimes are willing to take the risk...

[@edwardkim2541]

And she was a karolyi girl, Shannon wasn’t

[@noreillekisina5812]

This was good 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@AerialBack]

1:06:51 - 1:07:08 BEAUTIFUL

[@ShelleeGraham]

1:01:56 Look at the shana punim (that’s a pretty face) on Amanda Borden. She looks about 8 years old here! 👍

[@jennyjackson2517]

omg these were BACKIN THE DAYS FYI IAM KERRI STRUG THE REAL NO JOKE

[@bigbennie96]

You really didn''t like Kim that much did you?

[@ShelleeGraham]

53:19 Love Dominique Dawes on balance beam! Great 👍 job by this young gymnast with her young coach Kelly Hill! 1:04:59

[@DMH_701]

Karolyi was so mad at the judges it was kind of funny

[@mrparts]

It was part of his performance for the cameras. He rehearsed and planned ahead his outbursts and antics. He checked where the cameras were and positioned himself for them

[@MissLilRedRooster]

Dem comb-overs..

[@AudreyBennett-et6li]

It bothers me that they say Kerri Strug, won Silver when Sandy Woolsey won Silver at the 1991 Nationals

[@7u655]

How did Hillary’s vaults equal the same marks as Dawes?

[@laurielynne2006]

Right!? They held up Karolyi girls and Dawes was underscored. I would have scored Dawes 1st vault a 9.9

[@i.am.heather]

2 words: Bela Karolyi. He would intimidate judges and almost always challenge scores he didn’t see his gymnast deserved. You can see it plain as day in the ‘92 Olympic trials.

[@thesovgc]

I don't like to speak ill of the dead, but Hilary was perhaps the beneficiary of Bela's influence more than anyone else.

[@tonyeusini3003]

It bothers me how misleading John Tesh, saying Kerri Strug won Silver, we all know it was Sandy Woolsey!

[@2134knees]

Dominique had only been there 6 months though.

[@deanmacabitas]

Anyone else notice how the Karolyi's grabbed Kerri's neck after the beam routine and SQUEEZED it like they wanted to snap it in half?

[@laurielynne2006]

Marta is famous for her neck squeeze, all the way up to 2016! I’m so happy she retired.

[@drperkins6668]

Dominique is so cute here!

[@ashemn96]

Hermoso

[@trytobenice7234]

Kim Z on bars @ 20:21, beam 37:37 25:22 BO @ 40:20

[@letsdothis3332]

RIP 🙏 Hillary

[@camillelanglois3541]

Dominique Dawes is my favourite of all, she is so cute and strong!

[@torystrending7285]

Same here😊

[@susandilaudo9534]

yup. ditto. loved awesome dawesome! every time I go back and watch these old comps, I can't help but feel awful for her. she would either get robbed with scoring or have bad luck. one of the GOATs IMO

[@maseraticboychik]

Well, she did win EVERY event at the 94 US Championships. I remember talking to Dwight Normile, editor of IG, on the phone and him saying 'she won everything' ...I said 'you mean EVERY EVENT?' and he said, 'YUP....'

[@Girlsttal2]

There is no way that Dominique Dawes vault was a 9.8. It should have at least been a 9.9. Kim Kelly got a 9.8 too?? Are you serious?!

[@longbranch11207]

poor Dawes got cheated most of her career

[@myassisdragon1558]

longbranch11207, I absolutely agree with you on that..I still feel that she never got the attention she deserved! She was wonderful.

[@Miathegr8]

Dominique was always scored unfairly!

[@thesovgc]

Uhhh, she was way off center.

[@amyaugustine1656]

Chris comlumbus !!!!! Uuuuugggghhhhh

[@etownshawn]

can only take so much Zmeskal this Zmeskal that. god why did I click on this

[@nmelgar74]

I was not very fond of her either.

[@chuckie102883]

Amanda was amazing! She should have made that team!

[@timothyhh]

Not without a Yurchenko vault.

[@potocatepetl]

Poor Amanda....

[@dahighbar]

The politics in this competition was nasty KIm was way over scored

[@maseraticboychik]

It is STRUG who was OVERSKORED to the point of felony. As usual.

[@thesovgc]

@@maseraticboychik only on beam

[@thesovgc]

Kelly? I agree.

[@susanaklassen130]

I still don't understand why children are at the Olympics. I'm unconvinced that at 18 or 20 they are worse athletes than when they were children.

[@thesovgc]

Puberty says otherwise.

[@nmelgar74]

I agree. Look at gymnasts now. They are in their early 20’s some of the and do well and sometimes better than the teens. And yes puberty affects it but I find gymnasts only get more powerful post puberty. Biles is perfect example

[@laurielynne2006]

The look that Bela wanted... so cringe. Also Tim calling a routine a disaster. He still does this. Scoring is so crazy here. I think hey held Kerri back to make sure Kim won. Kerri should have gotten 9.9 on bars.

[@cauthoncrazy]

Holy crap American commentators are the wooooorst.

[@dydydufjfjfuf4500]

Bella is a big cry baby 😭

[@lukeandsidpuppals362]

And kim.kelly...lol

[@rjpd8143]

Amanda’s hair ! 🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@seer1623]

These pep talks by the coaches with lapel mics comes across contrived and opportunistic. Not buying it.

[@SonOfAGun1814]

LOL I LOVE BELA'S OUTSPOKENNESS!

[@JennaLeigh]

So you don't know much about gymnastics or the Karolyis.