1999 World Table Tennis Club Championship, JO Waldner vs Ma Lin Set 3
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@supermarc Жыл бұрын
They picked up their own ball, didn't stall at every serve, and didn't take a 30 second towel break every 6 points of the match. Even the camera angle is much better than what you see nowadays. Man, table tennis really used to be much more fun to watch.
@zang19832 жыл бұрын
I can strongly recommend watching this with subtitles turned on.
@steveshaw36402 жыл бұрын
Laughed so hard. Thanks for the tips 😁
@normanstewartah-shung42192 жыл бұрын
I can imagine the commentator watching with a cigarette and a glass of whiskey
@ohayominna71492 жыл бұрын
But couldn't still make full sense right?
@lodis5811 Жыл бұрын
Bro you made my evening!!!
@adhiirani9967 Жыл бұрын
Lol.. 😂😂😂😂😂..
@chrisrichardson64823 жыл бұрын
You could tell the mental pressure got to the young Waldner. He overcame that problem in the years that followed.
@krzysztoflaskowski6110 Жыл бұрын
Mental pressure?
@pmophy17421 Жыл бұрын
This is 1999. Waldner was 33 years old, an Olympic champion and two time World champion. This was towards the end of his active career at elite level.
@sanulkh659 Жыл бұрын
Masa?
@keliekhp4 жыл бұрын
Love pingpong ... From Pekalongan Batik City Indonesia ...
@eyezbaby14 жыл бұрын
These are two technical players of the game.. no easy shot given for long loops
@vildek785 жыл бұрын
"Как молоды мы были...как молоды мы были.."
@ОлегБлизнюк-ш5и5 жыл бұрын
Ой не ной
@StreetPerforming12 жыл бұрын
watching this . . . the tabletennis changed completely ! looking forward to tabletennis in 2030 :)
@rainydayinapril4 жыл бұрын
I have beaten them then, I beat them now and I will beat them 2030. Maybe you can beat me 2040? Regards
@Saidakine4 жыл бұрын
This is why 21 points is better. But with a climate controlled gym.
@paramountelite228211 жыл бұрын
They still gotten beaten by Ma Lin both of them, but if Waldner was young again, he'd beat everyone quite often, and win all the major tournaments. He'd be twice as great of a Legend as he is now.
@paulystp5 жыл бұрын
You could tell that Waldner kept getting sweat balls from ma Lin , I have known players to do this on purpose, the rules state “If the conditions of play effects the outcome of the rally than it is a let” I simply show my racket to the umpire if I have a round wet spot on my racket
@24ghosh245 жыл бұрын
Nah, today's tt is spectacular with longer rallies
@nicklasandersson56064 жыл бұрын
Haha you drunk? Longer rallies today? Bullshit
@totalmenteforadopadrao3 жыл бұрын
Because the ball is bigger slower. That time is for real players. Waldner would kill today legends
@24ghosh243 жыл бұрын
@@nicklasandersson5606 watch more u ll understand who's drunk... Show me the longest rally from past n I ll show u the longest rallies of this era
@MrTinykin3 жыл бұрын
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@24ghosh243 жыл бұрын
@@MrTinykin I have seen everything.. A chopper myself.. And today's rallies are longer due to bigger n slower ball.
@sadeqmurar27943 жыл бұрын
The worst match I have ever seen to Waldner. Mostly the heat and humidity made him sweat and wet all the time
@spaceinvader3845 жыл бұрын
Waldner's serve legal? May be OK back those days but with his left hand deliberately blocking the service is surely unfair.
@onkelphil9245 жыл бұрын
It was legal back than... But now it is illegal to hide the contact while serving...
@logosnaki6 жыл бұрын
Waldner'ı hiç bu kadar bozguna uğramış görmedim
@antoncigur3727 Жыл бұрын
0:35 "Ayaaa" quote from Uncle Roger😅
@adiemus55 жыл бұрын
Change the rule of service did influence lots of player!
@TheMrBennito Жыл бұрын
Ma Lin maestro of sweat.
@stevechen84679 жыл бұрын
a great game to watch
@adityanehra1823 жыл бұрын
Ma Lin was so young back then.
@blizzbee2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@olaniyi57011 жыл бұрын
The conditions there were sweaty as hell and MaLins serve on match point was highly suspect.
@giorgione964 жыл бұрын
It was not suspect just was semi short close to the edge on drop so would stop waldner to have a clear chance to attack on return.Very smart and well executed serve ,too.
@morfeus20335 жыл бұрын
В каком году это было ?
@accord0313 жыл бұрын
@ansonyeung825 Never mind, its actually orange. LOL
@歩介浜崎5 жыл бұрын
馬琳、若い、スリム‼️
@judgedby1264 Жыл бұрын
Nobody stares at a bat like JO
@benthekeeshond5455 жыл бұрын
Were they using the fake 40mm TT ball?
@prashantray942 Жыл бұрын
I think Waldner couldn't find an answer to his opponent's penhold grip..
@rodrigomiranda96985 жыл бұрын
Very bad match! More better Ma Long vs Wang Liqin in Qatar
@accord0313 жыл бұрын
@ansonyeung825 White.
@a57147375 жыл бұрын
胸前的統一,是台灣公司?
@GtheRushSP12 жыл бұрын
worse for europeans maybe. zhang jike and ma long have easily surpassed everyone in the past. table tennis was never this good.
@olaniyi57012 жыл бұрын
Yep, table tennis has changed for the worse
@nedjeljkogadzo23083 жыл бұрын
Not much to see hear.
@湯翌昇5 жыл бұрын
what's wrong with Jo's blade?
@azhwanmuhamad36035 жыл бұрын
Nothing
@fraer1115 жыл бұрын
High humidity, I think
@nandi53385 жыл бұрын
I think it is just frustration. Couldn't return the ball because of high spin and blamed it on the bat
@adrianruelas18125 жыл бұрын
They were both sweaty as fuck. The ball might have been wet when receiving. he seems to try to dry it a lot of times.
@alexandermoreno131 Жыл бұрын
Mala decisión del àrbitro
@zhouxinghan69865 жыл бұрын
解说系粤语,字幕系英语?
@Rinzlertu3 жыл бұрын
統一居然有贊助過瓦神😆
@RB-ez8vx4 жыл бұрын
Most terrible performances by both players, more by Waldner.
@Left678905 жыл бұрын
老瓦传得怎么厉害什么的 还是在中国训练 跟马琳打 就算得算不赢马琳 看看吧这比赛还是
@trisnasaputra32585 жыл бұрын
Ngomong opo.sih
@andyheru3723 жыл бұрын
Ngomong rak ceto
@chicotaco885 жыл бұрын
Terrible commentator.
@jonathanmellqvist24 жыл бұрын
Chico Fernandes you mean wrong language for ya?
@neroma5 жыл бұрын
Really bad conditions to play table tennis
@jrk16664 жыл бұрын
rally is so short because of serve effectiveness of both players, also the high heat and humidity ruins any game
@totalmenteforadopadrao3 жыл бұрын
He loose because wet table wet ball and wet racket
@jacobkarras18354 жыл бұрын
Boo. Conditions were too humid to play, sports arenas must be climate controlled
@123456jfl5 жыл бұрын
Waldner got sweat balls every time!!
@olaniyi5709 жыл бұрын
Although i still prefer this over current table tennis ma-long, jike etc. The conditions during this particular match were horrible. A lot of sweat and humidity.
@user-lq2nu6cn7y4 жыл бұрын
@، I agree with him. Fuck the 40+ ABS balls. I am not old enough to have played mostly with 38(Ive tried them tho. Man are they spinny) but I think 40mm post speed glue ban (many differing styles unlike today, and rallies were still much longer than 38 and speed glue) was the best period. Perhaps ITTF should experiment with either 38 or 40mm ABS balls.
@darrenlang11113 жыл бұрын
U do have to consider this was 1999
@AhmadThabet-qw1kc3 жыл бұрын
A lesson from World Champion Waldner for all table tennis players in Persistance, Perseverence and Patience.
@paramountelite228211 жыл бұрын
Ma Lin beat Ma Long 2011 Volkswagen China Open and was the champion. Ma Lin has beaten Zhang Jike a couple of times in various other smaller competitions, but he is getting older still.
@oblarski24783 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you can’t compare, ma lin in his prime has never played ma long in his prime, if we go based of statistics alone, Ma long is the GOAT, although you could argue that waldner had a bigger impact on the game or that zhang wasn’t as good for a long time but in his prime was better then anyone and so on
@lorenzobarni10002 жыл бұрын
@@oblarski2478 bruh when waldner was playing the other players level was far closer than now. nowdays there is only 2 or 3 people that can challenge ma long or fan zendong is obvious that they always win
@oblarski24782 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzobarni1000 okay, but is that because the other people got worse compared to in Waldner’s period or just cause Ma and Fan are that much better then everyone.
@humorrrrrrrrrrrrrrr12 жыл бұрын
is it orange 38mm
@オセロット-w8w5 жыл бұрын
0:07 Chinese Mafia??
@kuchikibyakuya76973 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Michel14141004 жыл бұрын
Mai lin have not the talent of waldner, he just vkeep his time to doing more
@stepaushi Жыл бұрын
Why do they have to wear that annoying name sign on their backs?
@TheRovardotter3 жыл бұрын
Ma Lin's serve seems pretty good
@alexs96005 жыл бұрын
Валдер все равно - великий теннисист 🙂
@ЯнаКарманова-п1з2 жыл бұрын
Понравились оба игрока
@hede_uk68425 жыл бұрын
馬淋痩せてる頃ですね。オッサン体型になってもめちゃくちゃ強かったが
@pedantic_bonsai3 жыл бұрын
rallies were so short back these days... if you can call this a rally :D can understand why no one watched table tennis :D one set now is longer than a whole 2 set game in the past xD damn the skill lvl in this game is worse than 5. league today
@GhanaTableTennis3 жыл бұрын
when thw gods of serving the ball its a different story. Waldner waits to attack a long serve only to miss.
@AhmadRifai-ey4uo Жыл бұрын
young ma Lin
@TheNirvanafan199212 жыл бұрын
and xu xin and wang hao
@cebotarivladful2 жыл бұрын
noob game
@yusufonepiece12 жыл бұрын
No way, it's much better now :D
@ぶちのめせロマン砲2 жыл бұрын
カラカセビッチ若いしすごい痩せててびっくり
@joemarshall42265 жыл бұрын
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SUCH BAD PLAY? HARDLY A POINT WENT TO THREE SHOTS! Thank goodness they got rid of the practice of hiding the serve behind your non-paddle arm. they missed so many returns!
@mr.jeffrey28995 жыл бұрын
the ball size increased one year later from 38 to 40 mm diameter, too. so the exchanges became slower and longer.
@ramonbmovies Жыл бұрын
Interesting to watch differences between the game back then and now. @6:23 Ma Lin himself would've ripped it in his modern game.
@abdulhi2759 Жыл бұрын
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@vadimerofeev11484 жыл бұрын
Вареные они какие-то ...
@yamelistorres51684 жыл бұрын
Malin isi a goods
@상록-l6l3 жыл бұрын
I see young Ma Lin for the first time
@curiosity79173 жыл бұрын
So true
@mazahirhasanov824 жыл бұрын
Super
@dsharma63285 жыл бұрын
Higher quality of play from the two legends.Absence of long rally is indicative of quality serves, better serve return coupled with massive variation of pace, spin, placement and length of shot for every point. Very tough to think on your feet when you are at the table trying to micro-adjust for the opponent's stroke and doing something novel with your own play.
@dickn.ormous10644 жыл бұрын
You sir,know the game well.It's the endless variation or spins,speed,trajectory and bounce length than makes TT a difficult sport.Once two wing attackers became mainstream the magic of TT was greatly diminished.
@benthekeeshond5452 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 That was the result of using a 40mm ball. Since then, TT is not genuine. It took away or minimize the speed and spin effects from TT.
@천근록5 жыл бұрын
발트너 멋짐
@maultasche6685 жыл бұрын
World class players - but boring. Very short ralleys, lots of unforced errors. I think the new ball (40mm) and 11-point sets made table tennis more attraktive for the audience.
@donluna200011 жыл бұрын
What is the head2head record of the two? as far as i know, ma lin won here, in the 1999 wttc, and the 2002 japan open (which was an amazing comeback). Waldner won at the 04 olympics. Did i miss any?
@dailyvine67105 жыл бұрын
Waldner came 2nd at 04 in athen i think u got something wrong
@Alnivol6665 жыл бұрын
@@dailyvine6710 I think you need to learn how to read. The guy was talking about head 2 head between Ma Lin and JO Waldner. Waldner beat Ma Lin at the Olympics in 2004. And he didn't even finish second. He finished 4th. Lost the bronze medal match against Wang Liqin.
@shanelawson50725 жыл бұрын
i read an online interview with Waldner & he said H2H vs Ma Lin he's definitely behind...!
@benthekeeshond5455 жыл бұрын
@@dailyvine6710 I think that was about the only time Waldner won against Ma. But Waldner is at least a generation ahead of Ma. The more comparable h/h competition between Waldner and Jiang Jia Liang would be more suitable. He did not fare too well against Jiang either. However, Waldner did have a winning record against Chinese national players before Ma Lin/Wang Li Qin/ Wang Hao era. Consider that Waldner and his Swede compatriot, Jorgen Pearson, were about the only 2 players that challenged and win against Chinese TT. Between these 2 great Swedes, they won 3 WTTC World Championships.
@matteedstrom5 жыл бұрын
@@dailyvine6710 He meant Waldner won over Ma Lin in -04 olympics
@stephenlau00075 жыл бұрын
呢个系我见过最唔专业的解说
@emirumishiokana5 жыл бұрын
Jialin Liu English please.
@GtheRushSP11 жыл бұрын
Which big tournament has ma lin won against ma long and Zhang jike ? It's not about winning few matches against the competition but beating everyone and winning tournaments, which ma lin hasn't done against new competition. Waldner was great for his time but bring prime waldner now and he will fade away in obscurity. Table tennis has evolved too much.
@giorgione964 жыл бұрын
It s all subjective.I would t call todays play evolved .It just changed mainly because the size of the ball!
@dickn.ormous10644 жыл бұрын
Ma Lin beat Wang Hao who certainly had more game than Ma Long.Zhang Zhike is OK but even he didn't face much opposition from his generation.The game hasn't evolve much,there's a certain lack of new talents.Even China struggles to produce new players.Ma Long stated he isn't going to retire after the Olympics.He has a broken body and a rather dated style,yet no Chinese can take his place.
@ck-wg2hm4 жыл бұрын
even when you look back you know what TT has lost today
@dongmingzhu6663 жыл бұрын
广东人也看乒乓球?
@katzentisch20475 жыл бұрын
so many unforced errors in that set. thats not a good example for top table tennis
@ktosomcosom195 жыл бұрын
Sad to see Waldner having a huge problem with his FH rubber due to moist conditions there
@traxanh0do5 жыл бұрын
Ma Lin looks like Stephen Chow :))
@theultimaterelaxationcolle48784 жыл бұрын
it annoys me that waldner always looks at his bat when he loses a point