1997 Finland Grand Prix Revisited - Savolainen Got Screwed!

[@5dollarshake263]

I'm only 2 minutes in and I'm already blown away at how insane these guys look. The 90's were ridiculous.

[@CC-be3ko]

Not really, they look great because his conditioning was mediocre. Nasser lacks back and glutes, Levrone is better but it's not elite and Dillet never knew how to pose. Cormier also had soft glutes. Nostalgia always makes people think everything in the past was better.

[@TheGodOfAllChads]

@@CC-be3ko I mean you’re wrong but ok

[@CC-be3ko]

@@TheGodOfAllChads They surely look better by aesthetic standard, but nowadays by the actual bodybuilding evaluation system they are not that good.

[@CC-be3ko]

@Nicholas Holland The shapes and aesthetic were way better back then, but now they wouldn't place very high.

[@d34dthumbalinax35]

i mean, i still rather look like someone from the 90’s rather then today imo🤷🏻😏

[@Chodestick]

I totally see how he placed 7th, the judges must’ve been so distracted by his hair in the back shots that they forgot to judge them and afterwards judged it by memory. That’s the most plausible explaination I can imagine

[@zntei2374]

That has to be it

[@GameOver321]

Lol, then kai should be dead last when he competes lol

[@rexquandoo]

@@zntei2374 hahahah he was in great shape but i think you nailed that shit hahahaaha

[@adriankonig2168]

Levrone's shape in this contest was god tier. His most well-rounded and refined presentation, in my opinion.

[@niepamietam2142]

This shape and posing at olympia 97 would win with Dorian imo

[@kezo2137]

@@niepamietam2142 100%

[@AzizBaskomiser]

No legs, calves, enough shredded glutes but his upper body is amazing. Marko looked impressive and deserved 3rd.

[@kanethesevenfootmonster868]

@@AzizBaskomiser No Legs?? Just Shut The Fuck Up, You Are Coping Right Now.......

[@kanethesevenfootmonster868]

🔱🔱🔱🥇🥇🏆🏆

[@dalekinney8726]

You will truly be missed Tomn8er. Your legend will live on!!! Hope the next stage of life brings you love, happiness, and success.

[@mrdy4225]

what happend

[@bychen5011]

@@steelearmstrong9616He retired from YT

[@enricosace]

Tom, it’s so funny that you say that you aren’t the best natural speaker. Your great speaking, light sarcasm, and phrasing is one of the main reasons I subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work! This lineup was insane! Nasser and Cormier look amazing!

[@ELegenDEAZ]

Just upload when you feel like doing it, we enjoy the videos anyways in the end

[@simon8377]

true!

[@ukkomannermaa]

You're killing it, man. Probably the best bodybuilding commentator on youtube.

[@pricerowland]

By this point you can really tell Ronnie was going places

[@jeffrey2999]

Well, the thing is, nobody could tell that he had two more stages (99 en 2003) to go through! Kevin Levrone, Paul Dillett etc were all "maxed out" at this point (thats why i believe Coleman was probably natural in early 90's)

[@hardfugoo1]

Honestly, I woulda never guessed it. I always hated his physique. Least appealing one I’ve ever seen at this level.

[@patrickmurphy5842]

@@hardfugoo1 still the worst Mr Olympia as i am concerned

[@NoRest4TheWicked1]

@@patrickmurphy5842 the goat is the worst mr Olympia? Lool ok

[@patrickmurphy5842]

@@NoRest4TheWicked1 just cos you win the most doesnt make you the GOAT. Gunter Schlierkamp beat Ronnie so did Jay. GOAT for most is Arnold because of what he achieved and when he achieved it , same goes for Dorian, bearing in mind he took 2nd place in the first 2 IFBB Pro shows he competed in and prett much forced the dominating Lee Haney into retirement. Injury is what retired Dorian.

[@liukeiner]

5:15 I love how Dillett looks like he has 4 arms and he is doing a back double bicep and a rear relaxed hahaha

[@Tomn8er]

Haha did not catch that but he's looking like Goro from Mortal Kombat 🤣

[@cia7832]

and Cormier & ronnie @8:14

[@liukeiner]

@@Tomn8er hahahahahaha true

[@lordcrawford6525]

Dillet was the most gifted bodybuilder stood relaxed but was uncomfortable to watch when he posed. I think his carrer could have been better if he knew how to present that big bad ass godzilla physique.

[@ralfburon6179]

Front top, back flop and the shoulders full of oil…

[@nixazizu]

Look at Big Ron Woow he looks crazy good here. Wow

[@EugeneTaracenko]

He looks great here, but Marko Savolainen is fancy!

[@fitsique7092]

Levrone is one of my favorite BBs, Those round shoulders and triceps with his structure is just final boss material

[@jonsmith7659]

Nasser is criminally underrated in bodybuilding history. The 90s were notably mass monsters. Show like this are deep as can be.

[@BatmanBoss]

Best biceps ever! Too bad he couldn’t compete more

[@DespicableBunny]

Why didnt he?

[@BatmanBoss]

@@DespicableBunny health reasons he only did a few pro shows

[@AAS-AS]

Better fuller thicker back than Ronnie .. Marko was not only at biceps pose better but also from the back.. he got problem with poses., but the back and back doubble biceps kill tjem all.. 7th is a robe

[@AAS-AS]

@@Danny-uz9zb :D .. that need no reaction .. looks at the shape and form.. when you are talking about Ruhl, even today he as the BB "grandpa" have enormous biceps.. same with Savolainen, its geneticly given, he had the best biceps peak ever ( without synthol ) Dont be stupid, learn more something about them then write something about synthol

[@Arzi66369]

@@Danny-uz9zb you clearly have 0 clue

[@brooklynmitrica577]

With that physique marko episode have won the 2018 and 2019 olympias

[@Kevin_Calzada]

Don't kid yourself. He would've give Brandon a run for his money but not Rhoden

[@CC-be3ko]

hahahahaha nope

[@CC-be3ko]

@@Kevin_Calzada Everybody says the 90's was the best era. Phil, Kai, Rhoden, Ramy, Dexter, Bonac, Mcmillan, Cutler, Wolf would crush almost any 90's legend just by size or conditioning.

[@Tomn8er]

@@CC-be3ko they would. I think it's partly because the guys back then also had better aesthetics. Yes, any one of the top modern guys you mentioned would've probably won this show in their prime, but how many of them could outdo Kevin Levrone in a side tri, or Chris Cormier in the ab shot? How many mass monsters had a midsection like Paul Dillet?

[@Kevin_Calzada]

@@Tomn8er in the 90s they had the best balance in terms of size, conditioning and proportions but the modern era are fuller and with good condition could beat a lot of the guys in the 90s. Is a lot closer than people think but I'll still give the edge to the 90s for the genetic freaks in that era.

[@jjmuti3979]

As a finn its great to hear you agree that marko got shafted only placing 7th. I mean apart from Cormier and Levrone he probably had less flaws than the entire line up. Shame he couldn't compete more he's the only finn that ever had the potential to be a Olympia contender. He had an amphetamine addiction on top of taking PEDs so his kidneys gave out... Crazy thing is he told in his book (only available in Finnish I think) that while prepping for this show he couldn't really sleep or eat for days because of the addiction but shockingly still looked like he did

[@JohnPeter1940]

Quality over quantity dont change that Tom!

[@fad2679]

I feel like once the pandemic is over and bodybuilding gets back to its normal state then you will have a lot more to talk about and produce on your channel. You're on 64k subs and if you keep pumping out more videos you will reach 100k in no time. Other bodybuilding commentators aren't what they used to be (NSP), so we need people like you who focus on actual bodybuilding, not gossip and sensationalism.

[@spacecraftcarrier4135]

Yea lately I have lost interest in NSP & Greg Doucette,,, too much focus on drama instead of analysis.

[@DaOlLuLe]

@@spacecraftcarrier4135 NSP was never really good at analyzing bodybuilding :/

[@miguelroman4294]

Well said F AD! Truth be told I never liked Greg's channel and NSP's channel was and even more so now is over rated by a mile! The Tomn8er is by far the best channel in all of KZbin!

[@ukewbing]

Ayyyy. I've wanted to see a recap of this show for a long time. Sure it'll be great!

[@sohansaha5836]

Savoleinin could have won the show imo

[@paulk9603]

Yep, he is the best

[@Discipleofthelordandjesus]

No.

[@ohmy9261]

Savolanein in the back double looks like if Dorian had arms lol

[@cropredator1027]

Lol thinking same

[@diabolical92]

You stole words from my mouth

[@paulk9603]

Savolainen must be Mr. Olympia

[@goatfitness]

Im glad you mentioned how recording is the hardest part for you making content. Same for me, I would be alot more comfortable making blog posts. But you are one of the best even with being introverted, thanks for the inspiration!

[@jakethepitador2558]

We subscribers enjoy your channel, but you're correct, there's more to life than KZbin. Post a video when you're into it, and we subscribers will certainly enjoy it when it pops up! 👍😁

[@pepeknapp4956]

Heyo Tom, I just wanted to say that your commentary is appreciated at any rate you put it out. You always succinct and that comes at price of uploading frequently. Hopefully your gyms open up soon and I hope that it brings you joy for bodybuilding both as a hobby and as a KZbin venture. Your analysis is unsurpassed and frankly I hope you get to enjoy it. Love from germany

[@Chodestick]

Thank you for producing this quality content, your intro made me appretiate each of your uploads a bit more

[@arttu8052]

Finally! As a finn I really waited and wanted you To do this video! Keep up going!

[@bbukter5693]

Up front, Thank You Tomn8er for the Video 😇🙏 Greetings, from Finland 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮 + Perfect pronunciation of Marko's Last name. Many other KZbinrs get it wrong 🤓

[@Tomn8er]

Must be all that hockey I watch 🏒

[@soyjoseosarsiug]

Hyvää! Mahtava

[@AndreasHamberg]

Finland has been mentioned, let’s meet at the square!

[@ironwoodtactics8778]

Best breakdowns I’ve seen ! Along with vast knowledge of physiology and bodybuilding.

[@julianthomson7558]

hey dude thanks for even doing the few videos you do also thank you for being transparent about your situation. it is good for the fans to hear

[@c.j.8644]

5:20-5:25 Paul Dillet looking like Machamp over there with the other bodybuilder’s arms behind him 💀💀💀

[@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork]

dude lol

[@ЕвгенийАртюхов-щ2в]

He looks like a marshmallow man))) He can't hold a single posture. He obviously badly suffers from dehydration.

[@pizzabear123]

I love your style of video bro. You never miss

[@iambodybuildingyt221]

Yeah a surprise Tomn8er video 😀 Marko was pretty screwed though I would have had Marko no lower than 3rd place he was beating Ronnie who was 3rd and could have maybe even beaten Chris. They should have done another callout with Kevin, Marko, and Cormier so we could see how he compared he was definitely screwed

[@Tomn8er]

Yeah that would've been good to see. He's definitely beating Cormier from the back but not sure about the front and side shots.

[@iambodybuildingyt221]

@@Tomn8er that's too bad

[@patrickmurphy5842]

agreed on that callout maybe Marko, Cormier and Nasser as well

[@tan9640]

Great video! These old shows just hit hard how much the quality has dropped over the years Unless you can get Ramy, Kai, Phil, Rhoden, Curry, Winklaar, Hadi all on the stage together the quality just isn’t thefe

[@bigmack10]

Savolainen got absolutely robbed, dude was huge, full, and diced. That Christmas tree back is incredible! Wish we would have seen more of this dude.

[@HardbrasH1]

Your videos are rare, but I appreciate them more for some reason. Maybe its a sign of quality, who knows)

[@gruu]

OH man what a treat, I've only ever seen really bad quality photos and video from this show. Thanks for taking the energy to do this even though it's hard Tom, thanks for this vid however you managed to find the footage xD and take care!

[@alexworm1707]

To me kevin's physique here is the one i see as the perfect bodybuilder. So much simmetry, extremely well balanced, diced, full, huge and aesthetic af.

[@LuisHenrique-fc6mb]

He doesnt seems huge when the others guys appear. He looks a classic physic. He would be a perfect classsic physic

[@mick998r]

Yet again excellent analysis Tom. I'm always happy to hear your voice, views and comments. Cheers Mick.

[@jamalmaxwell2790]

Tom honestly your commentary is really good. I thoroughly enjoy it. Please keep making vids like this

[@miguelroman4294]

Hey Tomn8er! Of all breakdowns covering the Finland Grand Prix you totally crushed it. Superb analysis!

[@gobbel600]

Over 20 years ago and the quality, lighting, production is so much better

[@fitfogey]

You may not like speaking but you’re good at it. Your subscribers love your videos because of it.

[@utc-ampedfitness]

Hey Tomminator, your awesome. Thank you for your content and great body of work. It's totally cool to be you man. Tired, enthused, energized I'm saying thanks to all you've done and have been doing. Vent if need to this is why we call it life. Anyhow just shouting you out bro. Thanks

[@hungarianbeast]

I rather have less videos with better quality, than daily watered up content! Besides, I love rewatching your old videos.

[@nekronbeast3981]

The amount of muscle Ronnie put on his legs even after training for several years is just incredible

[@colbrahh3965]

I was actually really interested in this show cause this imo was Kevin Levrones best and now I got a tomn8er vid to watch

[@liukeiner]

I really love your videos, your channel is one of my favourites of any content :)

[@juanaguirre6153]

This lineup is probably better than the olympia for god sake

[@joe-qx3sm]

Its ok tom we still wait for your uploads Great stuff bro 👏

[@Vplaytg]

Appreciate your honesty! Dw about the upload frequency, we enjoy what you are producing :)

[@FinalCurse]

Tom you're doing great in your videos man! don't talk yourself down!

[@eliomcastillo8285]

MARCO was very underrated also he never was consistent enough to overcome the politics I Think this was his best if I'm not mistaken. Just my opinion Awesome video!!!

[@simoneteritti1120]

Which politics?

[@1994mrmysteryman]

I came across the thumbnail without noticing that it was from 1997. I just stopped and stared and was like "when did bodybuilding get so good. Wow".

[@bestdocincanada6620]

7:56 I dont know Tom, Cormier imo has bigger and rounder biceps than Coleman add to his overall taper and silhouette, with monstrous separated legs that also looks better than Coleman. I give him this pose

[@Tomn8er]

Yeah I gave it to him too so we only disagree on the biceps then? But Chris's do have a great shape so it's a minor point.

[@wingedhussar1453]

His chest is tiny tho

[@joselusueca]

We want more videos from you. You're great! In Germany also gim closed since end of October, insane!

[@framarzhakimi2071]

97 Finland GP Kevin Levrone is the Best Physique of All Time! Shape, Symmetry, Full, Conditioned, Posing, Presentation

[@bbukter5693]

SUOMI PERKELE!!! TORILLE!!! MARKO MUKAAN!!! 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮💪🏆

[@imserious4113]

I don't know marko's biceps are real Or something injected but he looks weird combination of Arnold and Dorian yates that was really amazing

[@uvespatel3828]

Bro I just love to see your video. And you are the best speaker i had seen.

[@howtodothings5391]

Great video...Keep going man ✌️

[@khalidamajoud4114]

Best bodybuilder channel, by a distance. 👏👏👏

[@dimebrad2760]

Nice video Tom thanks for the upload really good job.

[@noahvandenbroek4574]

Youre the best in what you do!

[@zakariaott]

You don't have to explain yourself, brother! Just keep doing what you're doing.

[@JustArtsCreations]

Sorrry ya not feeling well, thank you for the content you do bring

[@lakhshyalakey8078]

Tom, we love you, you're amazing

[@michaelboskovich6948]

Man that Marco guy is Amazing - Those biceps are just mind boggling.

[@filiproh2625]

Thank you for quality content, love the channel, I’m a subscriber from Slovakia

[@Mobstersdaught]

Thank god for the 80s 90s bodybuilder it was incredible look at these guys you dont see this much talent in one show anymore

[@stephencurran2284]

That is one thing the 90s really had going for it, guys today typically do less shows

[@cebukid70]

I'm so used to seeing bubble guts during the "transitions" in modern day bodybuilding, that I was actually looking for it in this video...lol. I saw zero abdominal distension - even during the transitions. Abs were definitely of a high caliber in this era.

[@357armen]

A few notes for u guys - Euro Grand Prix tour was usually a favorite of the Americans because the promoters would pay the top Americans to appear and often they wouldn't worry about how dialed-in they were after the Olympia - Kevin Levrone does look good here but I'd have to say the English Grand Prix of either 97 or 98 might be one of his best in my opinion

[@_mrlift]

Great video ! I make some bodybuilding comparisons on my Chanel sometimes and it can definitely be difficult Your the best in the game at it .

[@alex9046]

video quality is crazy, especially these closeups early

[@anundbabajee9327]

Marko then was better than top 5 Olympians now (2023).

[@OkanOkul]

Your fate has been decided, sentenced to 84 years of extroverted public speaking/video recording from now on!

[@Tomn8er]

🤣

[@josephohrablo4866]

Holy shit Kevin was peeled ! Only time I’ve seen him harder was at the Olympia in 92

[@hotdog557]

Arnold classic he was best ever

[@tamasberente7740]

Somehow this show from 20 years ago has better lighting and video footage than any show nowadays.

[@peterjohnson8935]

Your videos are much appreciated.

[@BountyRogueCinemax]

Not sure where you scooped up the footage but I appreciate being to see this

[@BROSQUEE1]

Just started following you in InstaGram! didnt realize you had one!

[@nightman8612]

I remember seeing in muscle & fitness an off season Marko and I was so impressed! Very competitive but also underlooked in this one. Cheers.

[@dalibordupor3979]

Savolainen and Ruhl had biggest biceps to this day.Crazy peaks like Arnold only even bigger.

[@edwinsilvacolon4689]

Nice 👍 footage...keep the good work...

[@zkljaja]

Wow you actually almost read Miloš Šarčev right! NICE! Such a pain for the ears hearing it wrong for years now

[@ironwoodtactics8778]

Nice job friend!

[@Cheifsergio]

Maybe you could do a video on bodybuilders with the biggest wasted potential. Lionel beyeke and Paul dillet are two that come to mind

[@Tomn8er]

Yeah it's been on the to-do list for a while

[@CC-be3ko]

Dillet must be at the top, he had the frame, the muscle bellies, he even showed good conditioning but he lacked discipline and commitment. Nobody in history looks better just standing.

[@Cheifsergio]

@@Tomn8er nice didn’t think I’d get a reply but can’t wait for that vid

[@BatmanBoss]

Marco is on there too

[@royalzak2670]

Marko's conditioning was awesome.

[@Larsonthebeach]

I think you're doing an awesome job as a speaker, even if you don't like it.

[@stilo2703]

Holy shit Cormier looked absolutely insane.

[@richardsorel201]

Wow I never even heard of Marco. The dude looked phenomenal.

[@0ptimal]

Man ur right that dude was ripped and grainy w huge bis, looked epic

[@andrew98115wl]

Jeez, when Marco pulls the rear double, his biceps literally look loike balloons being inflated as he flexes!

[@arghyapandey8103]

Naseer as usual going with his best

[@FloridaManMatty]

Straight up, Marko had the best biceps in the history of professional bodybuilding. The mass, split, and peak were untouchable. The only “issue” compared to other top tier guys was the inner head had a VERY slightly longer insertion than some like Levrone or Dillett. Still…BEST. BICEPS. EVER. God only knows how much Esiclene those bi’s saw in the 3-4 days leading into the show.

[@mampe8898]

His biceps were "natural" never use anything.

[@FloridaManMatty]

⁠@@mampe8898Riiiight. I’m guessing you aren’t familiar with Esiclene. It’s not a SEO like Synthol or other “site enhancement” products that have become so prevalent. Esiclene (Formebelone) IS a steroid, but not a very useful one. The one thing it did better than anything else available then or now was it’s ability to cause localized inflammation in the muscle without blurring or pulling water/fluid into the subcutaneous space. Levrone was a BIG user. Starting 5-6 days out, it goes into weak areas to bring them up a bit OR, into an already freakish body part (Marko’s biceps, Levrone’s Triceps and delts and outer biceps). Flex Wheeler used it EVERYWHERE. You can actually see the changes in the shape of certain muscles (Flex’s rear delts in particular) in the 3-4 days leading up to the show. The only real “problem” with Esiclene is that they don’t make it any more!!!

[@hurja4655]

Crazy to think Savolainen was only 24 at the time.

[@albertwayable]

Who is that marco. His complete name. I wanna search him. He is incredible

[@Ticonderous1]

I miss the IFBB string of Grand Prix's... they were some of the best shows and great line ups ....

[@eliomcastillo8285]

Do anyone appreciate how amazing Cormier looks??? Wow ... Full belly muscles perfect balance from head to toe and in the top of that that definition and separation of the muscles every where specially in the legs!!! I saw him for 2 seconds and I was like wow Of course after that I keep watching him Wow!!!

[@Tomn8er]

Yup. Only real flaw was soft glutes and hams.

[@dogs4homeprotection104]

Marko looked amazing !!!

[@fatboy5926]

And commenting again 😂 love getting this in my suggestions. Ronnie here for me - amazing still. That front double - Ronnie has the smallest midsection here. Even smaller than Kev & Cormier. It really shows his genetics. That waist was tiny (even if he never had the best abs - his waist here is tiny) combined with his ridiculous bi’s and it’s just a crazy look