1998-2013 Street Glide® Front Speaker & Amp Install

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Rockford Fosgate

Rockford Fosgate

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@Rider_2013_
@Rider_2013_ Жыл бұрын
Just ordered my install kit!
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your order. This is our Gen-1 series, our newest Gen-3 installation videos are available here: m.youtube.com/@rockfordfosgate/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=6
@markjohnston1502
@markjohnston1502 5 жыл бұрын
I have an 07 Street Glide that needs this bad!
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
You can learn more about this system here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd9813sg-tkit/
@gzrgldr8288
@gzrgldr8288 5 жыл бұрын
It would be really nice if you went into more detail on the amp setup. I have had nothing but trouble trying to get the gains set using the CD. The instructions that come with the amp are weak and I can't get any of the lights to come on unless I do it by ear.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Gzr Gldr, we have a Amp Tuning Guide available for the configuration so there's no need to mess with the test tones: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355/
@SparkyLittle
@SparkyLittle 6 жыл бұрын
It been awhile sinse i see brad used to work with him in PA... Guess i will have to update my 08 street glide speakers Rockford
@politeforce
@politeforce 6 жыл бұрын
Great video on removal and installation. The setup CD as you explain help set up the amp but what if you have a replacement head unit for Harley that is not Harman Kardon without the CD?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 6 жыл бұрын
Great question! We've actually revised our 2014+ videos with the below advisory and need to update this 98-13 video to include a newer setup as shown here (you don't need to setup disc): kzbin.info/www/bejne/pV7FgYybZ8ykorM
@sallc2007
@sallc2007 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 Street glide and bought this with the installation kit. The issue I am having is I previously had speakers installed in the rear lids and they were wired with a HD wiring harness that has connectors up in the fairing. Rockford Fosgate make connectors I can run off the input/output of the amplifier to these connectors? It is a HD wiring harness 69200022. It would make things much easier then using the wires supplied to the speakers in the rear. If not, I would need to splice into these wires I assume, both going to radio and coming from speakers.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 6 жыл бұрын
The Deutsche style connectors supplied with the Rockford Fosgate HD9813SG-TKIT & HD9813RG-TKIT are for connection to the radio outputs only. Unfortunately, we don't build special wiring harnesses designed to interface with existing Boom! audio bag-lids. If we were doing this install in our bay, we'd just splice into the existing cables, solder the connections and cover them with heat shrink.
@joeygarcia6783
@joeygarcia6783 11 ай бұрын
Super cool ❤
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback!
@droppdon20s1
@droppdon20s1 4 жыл бұрын
Ok so great video but the only thing I have a question on is the audio signal. Where is the amp getting the audio signal to amplify. Usually you have an input on an amp and then the output to the speakers. Are the original speaker wires inserted in to an input signal port on the amp?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, This is our 1st Generation system that is no longer being produced. Our newer Gen-2 system is listed below. At 9:18 on that video you'll see we're pulling the high-level signal output from the radio's output and plugging them into the INPUT of the amplifier. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sF60aqqMqrGte9E
@65davem19
@65davem19 6 жыл бұрын
QUESTION: You connected the amp straight to the battery! Which means that it will always be powered and not off when the key is off, thus draining the battery. Why is there not an adapter to connect to the radio power?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 6 жыл бұрын
Hi 65davem19, the amplifier does not remain on because it has a "sensing" turn-on circuit. When the factory radio turns on, the amplifier's signal input circuit senses the "DC Offset" voltage present on the speaker outputs, which then turns-on the amplifier. Once the radio turns off, there is no more DC Offset to be recognized, and the amplifier shuts down. This is similar to starting up your motorcycle ... you turn the ignition on, the solenoid activates and starts cranking the engine, but one you release the ignition, the solenoid retracts and stops.
@joestreetglider
@joestreetglider 7 жыл бұрын
Great install video! i just bought the RF T400x4ad amp and have the same year Street Glide like in this video. Question about my amp that i bought... do i need to buy the installation kit? And to install my amp is it similar to this amp in the video? Sorry i know much about this sort of thing i want to do the install myself without taking the bike to the dealership
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 7 жыл бұрын
We highly recommend purchasing the RFKHD kit because we've included everything needed to install a T400X4ad amplifier. It includes all the properly sized B+ and GND cables, a remote turn-on cable, signal input cables, and bracket/heatsink designed for optimum amplifier mounting. All cables are also terminated with the proper OEM wiring plugs so you're not cutting factory wiring harnesses. This is great because you can remove the amplifier and reinstate the factory audio system if you decide to sell the bike in the future.
@joestreetglider
@joestreetglider 7 жыл бұрын
Rockford Fosgate thanks i appreciate the response and i did end up buying the RF amp installation kit off eBay at a great price.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 7 жыл бұрын
Joe SG, great to hear your follow-up and glad you ended up with the correct installation kit. For others reading this post, please note there are NO Authorized Rockford Fosgate Dealers on eBay, and any sort of warranty issues are the responsibility of the seller.
@joestreetglider
@joestreetglider 7 жыл бұрын
Rockford Fosgate I agree with your statement however with the US to CDN exchange i didn't want to spend over $200 for an installation kit when it was half the price on eBay and for your information its a Rocksford Fosgate original amp kit not a knockoff brand.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 7 жыл бұрын
We sincerely appreciate you purchasing the real-deal and for choosing Rockford Fosgate!
@ABM261-zi2gl
@ABM261-zi2gl 5 жыл бұрын
Can you help me out please? I purchased the rockford fosgate r1-hd2-9813 prime 140 watt 4-channel harley motorcycle speaker and amplifier system several years back. I have a 2006 road glide. I have four speakers in my fairing right now. I want to add two speakers in my saddle bags. My question is this...... Can I connect the amplifier I have now to two more speakers for my saddle bag? Or do I need to buy a separate amp for the two extra speakers before I put them in the bag? Jut to let you know I will be using Rockford Fosgate 6”x9” speakers for the bags.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Hi G More, with that amplifier, unfortunately no since it's a closed system designed for 4 speakers only (one per channel). Although we would typically recommend a second amplifier, you'll have a mismatch of power between your fairing speakers and the bag-lids. It may be worth calling our technical support to cover all your options because there are several. They can be reached at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri 8am - 5pm.
@ABM261-zi2gl
@ABM261-zi2gl 5 жыл бұрын
Rockford Fosgate Thank you
@stephenwaite5345
@stephenwaite5345 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it.. but how did you hook the amp up to the radio?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 2 жыл бұрын
This begins at 11:23 where the speaker outputs from the radio are connected to the harness that feeds the amplifier's inputs. Keep in mind, this is our 1st generation kit that was discontinued a few years ago. You can find our 2nd generation audio kits for 1998-2013 Harley-Davidson along with installation videos here: rockfordfosgate.com/motorcycle/
@walterhaybeck5112
@walterhaybeck5112 3 жыл бұрын
so i picked up a rockford fosgate punch and speakers but didnt come with any wiring, i found the wiring kit on amazon to hook to the battery but need wires to connect to the speakers and radio itself where would i find those
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Walter, we'll need to understand what you purchased. Do you have all the model numbers of the product you bought. Also what motorcycle year/model do you own?
@bearfan0996
@bearfan0996 Ай бұрын
So i want the clip lights to be on?!?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate Ай бұрын
Once you found the clipping point of the radio (on 1998-2013 models it's at the "E" on the VOLUME scale, you'll set the LEDs so they just start to flicker red. We actually have pre-configured Harley-Davidson Amp Tuning Guides done for you. You can them here: rockfordfosgate.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/23190950555547
@lightingrodtodd
@lightingrodtodd Жыл бұрын
So only the speaker wire runs through amp not stereo I never see where u hook stereo back up in this video am I missing it
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate Жыл бұрын
Hi Hate Tank, the amplifier turns-on using the DC Offset from the speaker outputs. This signal goes directly into the INPUT of the amplifier, then the OUTPUT goes to the speakers.
@lightingrodtodd
@lightingrodtodd Жыл бұрын
Sorry I was missing a piece from my amp kit. Now that I got the piece it came together very nice . On power to battery that goes to amp where does blue wire go?
@lightingrodtodd
@lightingrodtodd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply I haven't hooked power up yet just need to get the blue wire hooked up but speakers and such are all hooked up nice set up very clean looking qnd fairly easy as long as you have all the parts with ur kit . Not rockford foscates issue shop I bought it from sold me open box missing plug to stereo
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate Жыл бұрын
@@lightingrodtodd Great, glad you got the missing piece. The blue wire connects to the Accessory Turn-On. Our newer videos identify the location of the connections better. You can see where we attach the blue wire at 10:02 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5zJo5yfoctoZ6M
@rafaelsierra1238
@rafaelsierra1238 5 жыл бұрын
I will like to installn 6 speaker on my street glides so I need diferent amp?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Could you help me understand what type of speakers you plan on running on the amplifier? 2 tweeters, 2 midrange, 2 subwoofers?
@rafaelsierra1238
@rafaelsierra1238 5 жыл бұрын
@@rockfordfosgate 6- 6.5 speakers two on the front faring, two on the lowers on crash bar and two on the saddle bag.
@ABM261-zi2gl
@ABM261-zi2gl 5 жыл бұрын
Rafael Sierra Can you help me out please? I purchased the rockford fosgate r1-hd2-9813 prime 140 watt 4-channel harley motorcycle speaker and amplifier system several years back. I have a 2006 road glide. I have four speakers in my fairing right now. I want to add two speakers in my saddle bags. My question is this...... Can I connect the amplifier I have now to two more speakers for my saddle bag? Or do I need to buy a separate amp for the two extra speakers before I put them in the bag? Jut to let you know I will be using Rockford Fosgate 6”x9” speakers for the bags.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Hi@@ABM261-zi2gl, I replied to the same question you posted here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5-4koh5pqeUn5I&lc=z235sb54wpnysnkgp04t1aokgdufagqejbq4me0itr0drk0h00410
@robertlee2005
@robertlee2005 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2007 Electra glide classic... not the ultra- I bought used. It has the factory stereo and speakers in it (no amp). I would like to upgrade the speakers at this time. (I don’t have the money right now for stereo & amp... damn corona virus!) Can you guys recommend a speaker upgrade, that I will get more volume and better sound quality from, without the addition of an amp? Thanks!
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, Hope you and your family are safe! If you simply want to upgrade the speakers now, look for high sensitivity speakers so you can convert watts output from the radio as efficiently as possible to create output from the speaker. The Rockford Fosgate TMS6SG models for your 2007 Electra Glide are equivalent to pro-audio type speakers since they have a 91 dB sensitivity, which is very high compared to a lot of speakers you'll see on the market that are in the 80's. At 1 watt input, the speaker will play 91 dB loud, and so forth. Ultimately, you'll want an amplifier like the TM400X4ad so you hear at higher speeds. You can find more info on the TMS6SG speakers here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/tms6sg/
@robertlee2005
@robertlee2005 4 жыл бұрын
Rockford Fosgate thank you for the info... and the rapid response!!! I’ll check into those speakers. Yes, I eventually would like to get an amp, so I would like to get speakers that would sound good now, but still be compatible with an amp at a future date.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertlee2005 You're welcome! Yes, those are definitely amplifier compatible due to the high wattage capacity. I just realized we are on the Gen-1 video ... here's the Gen-2 version of the kit for reference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4qaYaBsaM2IndE
@nickcence8845
@nickcence8845 5 жыл бұрын
Question: I want to install this system on my 2011 ElectraGlide Classic, with no tour-pak speakers. However I would like to add the Rockford Fosgate PP4-T 1-1/2" tweeters to this system. If I were to eliminate the ambient temperature gauge and the battery voltage gauge, do the "super tweeters" fit into the spaces for the front gauges? Also, would I need to switch the amplifier to 4-channel mode for this setup? Any help on tackling this project would be great.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
The throat of the PP4-NT tweeters is 1.79" in diameter as shown on page #4 of the manual, so you can use that dimension to see if it will fit inside the gauge hole: www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/library/2015/4_speakers/1230-59166-02_rf_punchprotweeters-man.pdf You will keep the amplifier input switch in 2-channel input, because we're only using a single left/right signal to feed all channels of the amplifier. The switch has no effect on configuring how many channels are used on the amp, only how many inputs are used to feed the amplifier. However, if you'll be using the rear speaker outputs dedicated to those PP4-NT tweeters (no bag-lids or tour-pak,) then you'll adjust the rear gain controls so you can balance the output of the tweeters to match the standard fairing speakers.
@thadondonedontit9909
@thadondonedontit9909 4 жыл бұрын
I have a single din pioneer tv radio and I want to install a bracket to hold amp onto radio WILL IT FIT AND IF SO WHERE CAN I BUY.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Don, you may want to contact Pioneer to see what they recommend for installation of their radio into a Harley-Davidson fairing. Unfortunately, we only have recommendations for the Rockford Fosgate PMX-HD9813 source unit.
@PINOYBOY74
@PINOYBOY74 5 жыл бұрын
Will the amp setup be ok with my 2013 Street Glide from the amp setup advisory video you did for the 2014 + I currently set up my amp as instructed from that video. I set up the front/rear input levels at the 12 O’clock position, the EQs at min, the freqs at 80 Hz, set at 2 CH, and both HP.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich, The advisory we released for the 2014 and newer Harleys is not the same for 2013 models. Here is the 1998-2013 setup sheet: rockfordfosgate.app.box.com/file/336667382522
@gzrgldr8288
@gzrgldr8288 5 жыл бұрын
@@rockfordfosgate Really? You want to charge someone for instructions on how to set up your amp? That's ridiculous. Bought this amp for my '13 Ultra and it sounds like crap.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
@@gzrgldr8288 We don't charge for setup instructions. We have a FREE Amp Tuning Guide available you can download at no charge direct from our website: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355/
@qbanopro2225
@qbanopro2225 5 жыл бұрын
How do I connect amplifier to speaker wire? Do you have the adaptor conector for it?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, this particular 1998-2013 kit comes with an "all inclusive" wiring harness that connect the radio to the amplifier's inputs, and the outputs to the speakers.
@jeepito26flores76
@jeepito26flores76 5 жыл бұрын
Can we use same speaker kit and amp for your saddle bag 6x9 modification ?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, this HD9813SG-TKIT kit is actually recommended for our plug-n-play TMS69BL9813 saddlebag kit: Harley-Davidson® Street Glide® Front Audio Kit (1998-2013) www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd9813sg-tkit/ Power Harley-Davidson® Rear Audio Saddlebag Kit (1998-2013) www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/tms69bl9813/
@buckman2011
@buckman2011 4 жыл бұрын
Does the amp bracket work with AV aquatic radios or only factory radios?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
We designed the amp bracket for use with factory Harley-Davidson and Rockford Fosgate PMX-HD9813 radios. Not sure if the Aquatic AV has provisions in the same location.
@buckman2011
@buckman2011 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for getting back to me! I’m just going to order the PMX-9813 since it’s 100 dollars cheaper and has the exact same features as the Aquatic AV radio I was looking at! Thanks a bunch!
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
​@@buckman2011 You're welcome! It's still on sale through the weekend. You'll see at 2:15 in the below video, I replaced an Aquatic AV with a PMX-HD9813. It's really easy to replace. Lolli (owner of this bike) commented that he likes the PMX-HD9813 because it has more features over his Aquatic. - HD9813RG-STAGE2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nae6f4uvltabfqM
@BeingJermaine
@BeingJermaine 6 жыл бұрын
How well do these speakers hold up in the elements
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jermaine, ALL our Harley-Davidson® speakers and speaker kits are "Element Ready", meaning they are protected against Dust, UV, Temperature, Water, Corrosion & Vibration. These are NOT car audio speakers repurposed to fit a motorcycle, and are specifically designed from scratch to handle a motorcycle environment.
@streetgliderznorthwestindi869
@streetgliderznorthwestindi869 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 13 street glide do I not need to hook up the remote wire? Using stock stereo
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Street Gliderz, great question! Since your '13 model doesn't have the H-D EQ setting and doesn't need to be flashed, you should be O.K. to install the system without connecting the REMote turn-on wire. The TM400X4ad amplifier has "signal sense" so it detects the DC Offset from the speaker outputs on that radio version. The REMote turn-on wire is used after flashing a '14 or newer motorcycle. When the radio is flashed on those models, it disables the DC Offset on the speaker outputs, so the signal sense can no longer turn on the amplifier automatically.
@streetgliderznorthwestindi869
@streetgliderznorthwestindi869 6 жыл бұрын
Rockford Fosgate thanks
@streetgliderznorthwestindi869
@streetgliderznorthwestindi869 6 жыл бұрын
My new ? Is the amp isn't turning on is there a fuse on the amp itself. The fuse in the power wire as broke I replaced it with the same amp fuse and no power please help
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 6 жыл бұрын
No, there are no internal fuses inside the amplifier. If the amplifier is not turning on, use a small jumper wire between the B+ and the REM terminal on the amp. If it turns-on, then the amp is not properly seeing the DC Offset from the radio speaker outputs. You'll want to connect the REMote turn-on wire from the amplifier to the Blue wire from the radio harness. To verify you have the correct wire from the bike harness, measure the voltage with your DVM by turning the ignition on (to turn the radio power on). It should be +12V when "on" and 0V when "off". If the amplifier is not turning on and you verified the fuse is O.K., then the amplifier will need to be replaced. You can contact Rockford Fosgate technical support at 1-800-669-9899 to verify the amplifier is dead and get a replacement started right away.
@alphawolf6458
@alphawolf6458 5 жыл бұрын
I purchased the speakers just looking for remaining part#'s for amp and connections harness
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
You purchased the TMS6SG speakers correct? You'll need the TM400X4ad amplifier and the RFKHD amp wiring kit. TM400X4ad = www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/tm400x4ad/ RFKHD = www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/rfkhd/
@dogboyendicott5211
@dogboyendicott5211 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t the street glide come out in 2006
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this video should be titled Batwing or Electra Glide / Street Glide .. alas its from our 1st generation kit that was discontinued years ago. You can find the current kit and installation video here: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd9813sg-stage1/
@dogboyendicott5211
@dogboyendicott5211 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockfordfosgate thanks
@michaellumbert3437
@michaellumbert3437 Жыл бұрын
Let's hear it
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate Жыл бұрын
Our videos get flagged for copyright when we play audio tracks. Besides, you want to experience the audio in person because a pair of $1.50 speakers in your laptop or mobile phone can't accurately reproduce lower frequencies as they are designed to reproduce vocals.
@DirtyBeefCurtains
@DirtyBeefCurtains 7 жыл бұрын
Does this amp installation work the same with an alpine head unit. Or only stock head unit.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 7 жыл бұрын
Installation is 98% similar with the following exceptions: 1) The amplifier inputs will be connected to the corresponding speaker outputs (not RCA) of the Alpine radio instead of the factory radio. We recommend this since most radio speaker outputs have better voltage over RCA outputs. 2) The amplifier input sensitivity will be adjusted according to the Alpine's output voltage (the amp is supplied with instructions on how to set the input and output settings). If you have questions during the installation, our technical support is available 8:00am - 5:00pm, Monday - Friday MST or through www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech
@DirtyBeefCurtains
@DirtyBeefCurtains 7 жыл бұрын
Rockford Fosgate wow thank you for the reply! I will be buying this set up. I have read up on it on hdforums. My main concern was if the amp mounted up the same way as it does to the stock head unit.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 7 жыл бұрын
Actually it's a good thing you brought this up ... the Alpine radio most likely has different chassis mounting screws. You may need to customize how the amplifier heatsink gets attached to the radio chassis by drilling different holes through the mounting bracket.
@thadondonedontit9909
@thadondonedontit9909 4 жыл бұрын
I have the amps need mounting bracket and etc
@perrymontuori708
@perrymontuori708 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have a CD player on my head unit how do I set up the amp with out a disk?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
No problem, we did all the hard work for you. Download our Amp Tuning Guide here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355/
@davidmartinez7385
@davidmartinez7385 5 жыл бұрын
where do you get the amp mounting bracket?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
Hi David, our HD9813SG-TKIT comes with the amplifier bracket: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd9813sg-tkit/ It's also sold separately as the RFKHD: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/rfkhd/
@jessecalifornia2844
@jessecalifornia2844 7 жыл бұрын
Why don't you let it play to here it??
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 7 жыл бұрын
It is difficult to sometimes demonstrate audio systems because you're trying to convey Sound Quality on a 0.50 cent microphone. Plus, most camera microphones cannot withstand the SPL generated and can easily distort. However, In-Phase in Omaha, NB recently did an upgrade to a Harley-Davidson® Street Glide® and filmed it being turned up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6Wxl5ejmtJ6qM0
@RanGer-498
@RanGer-498 5 жыл бұрын
And the ground wire for the amp?
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
At timecode 00:09:50, Brad talks about running the B+ and GND for the amplifier to the battery.
@RanGer-498
@RanGer-498 5 жыл бұрын
@@rockfordfosgate I just saw him do the + figured he did something different for the ground since you didnt actually show it.
@rockfordfosgate
@rockfordfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
@@RanGer-498 On a small systems like this, you'll have getter control over possible ground loops by actually connecting the GND directly to the battery.
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