1st year with the Range Rover L322 overland build. How unreliable is it?

A year of ownership of the L322, is it reliable, what’s gone wrong, whats been fixed, what needs attention.?
Intro 00:00
How much has it been driven? 02:00
What’s the fuel consumption been like? 03:51
Servicing / oil and fluids 05:48
What’s gone wrong? 07:54
Up yours Toyotas owners 17:03
What’s next - trips in ‘23 18:43
#overlanding
#rangeroverl322
#overlandtravel

[@StuStafford83]

Your attitude to maintenance is absolutely spot on! These vehicles are absolutely fantastic when in the right hands. Would love to join you on an adventure with my own L322 one day.

[@eurotoura]

Another great explanation of the reality of LR/RR ownership. Preventative maintenance is the key to look after and keep any vehicle or machine running reliably. The reality with older RR’s is that once they become cheap enough to purchase some of these owners do not properly maintain and service them then wonder why they fail, giving the doubters an opportunity to put them down as not good to own.Hopefully some of those watching will change their opinions and be less vocal and critical of the brand. I intend to keep my 2021 L405 bought new for as long as I can by being more realistic with the maintenance schedule as the mileage increases. 👍👍

[@Overlanding4WD]

100% agree 👍🏻

[@waynehancock3603]

I have had many land rovers none have really let me down I love them

[@dougcoleburn1579]

Nothing rides like a Land Rover Range Rover. Great video

[@markmackenzieblack2052]

I own an 05 3l autobiography bought it 2009 174000 miles still strong, awesome machine.

[@scotty8482]

That was the most honest speech of all the old Range Rovers owners it's nice to know some people know how to look after a car looking forward to your next video 👍

[@Overlanding4WD]

Thank you!

[@UHollis]

I'm about to purchase an '09 L322. Been a RRC owner, daily driver for the last 10 years. Excited to jump into something slightly more recent. Love the videos mate.

[@jerrygreene7139]

Well done and I consider that all good news. My L322 has 72k miles and I’m getting the point that it is important to keep up with the maintenance. I have the 5.0 gas motor so I’m putting money aside now to deal with the timing chain issue that is sure to come. Thanks for the video.

[@Spartansrule118]

any issues sinice this comment? you still enjoying it?

[@dodegraham4746]

That was informative. I had bad corrosion with mine. It was 14 years old, so understandable. I nearly lost my fuel tank. Not expensive to replace. Apart from that, I had three years happy motoring in it. I fancy another one.

[@craigdouglasmartens7037]

Well done! . A very fair review indeed! I look forward to owning one soon. Safe travels!

[@gwilko6452]

I had my 2004 4.4 v8 petrol since November 21 as a weekend car. It cost me £4300.00. I have spent 2k on maintenance including full service to gearbox and engine. Suspension components and a new alternator. New brake pads and a caliper. Upgraded to some second hand 20s alloys and tyres then got the tracking sorted and it has ran sweet as a nut since. Looking forward to a family trip to Norfolk in it at the end of the month

[@philippangst]

Thank you for this excellent and honest video! My 07 3.6TDV8 just needed a new thermostat just shy before 300'000 km. Mechanic told me it was the original, not bad for my old lady. He recommended to replace as well the waterpump (was not bad, just as well the original) and the belts (precaution). Did everthing and she drives like new... Oils and filters as always every 10k. No problems, just don't cut corners. Cheers a swiss living in serbia (where an L322 gets a lot of unbeaten paths to discover)

[@milhouse147]

Have Your Turbos been changed? I want to buy a 3.6TV8 but I am so scared because of the crazy Turbo change, when they fail.

[@philippangst]

@@milhouse147 Hallo Milhouse, ich antworte dir auf deutsch (habe deine Uploads gesehen, geile Konzerte!): nein, meine Turbos wurden nicht ausgewechselt. Wie in zahlreichen Beiträgen oder auf Foren erwähnt: dieses Auto, wie auch andere Hersteller mit Dieselturbos, muss ausgefahren werden. Mal nur zur Tanke fahren ist nix für diesen Motor. Ich benütze ihn als Daily, und nach einer Woche nur Stadtverkehr ist es Pflicht, ihn mal richtig über die Bahn zu hetzen. Meiner macht zwei bis drei Mal im Monat Schweiz/Serbien, das sind 1500km/pro Weg ohne Probleme. Ich habe jetzt 160'000 km gefahren mit diesem, davor hatte ich den gleichen und fuhr auch ca. 180'000. Und davor den 2003 4.4 V8 (BMW, Legende). Und davor den P38 4.6, ich kenn mich ein wenig aus mit den Kisten.😎 Einfach immer schön ausfahren die Dinger! Oder wie Samy Deluxe sagen würde: Setz dich fünf Minuten rein danach willst du nix anderes!

[@milhouse147]

@@philippangst hahahaha geil! Bester Mann! Ich fahre in Berlin nur Stadtverkehr bzw stehe da mit Schrittgeschwindigkeit rum wie das hier so üblich ist. Und im Herbst ist der Plan wieder 2.500km nach Spanien zum Überwintern. Hab ich letztes Mal mit meinem Insignia GSi gemacht. War entspannt aber ich will so lange Strecken aufrechter sitzen. Glaube dafür ist der RR absolut perfekt.

[@philippangst]

@@milhouse147 Hehe! Absolut! Ein Hoch auf die Sitzposition und die Sitzqualität im Range. Ich bin 195cm und 120kg, mein Fahrersitz hat absolut nichts an Komfort eingebüsst! Noch eine Empfehlung: IMMER die Vogue-Ausstattung nehmen: Sitzbelüftung! Was für ein Traum in Spanien! Ich hab mit dem Vorgänger eine Tour über die Pyrenäen gemacht, mit dem aktuellen gings mit der Fähre nach Marokko! Die Defender Jungs haben mich müde belächelt, aber es gibt kein anderes Auto auf dieser Welt wo du am gleichen Tag durch den Wüstensand oder den gröbsten Schlamm in Rumänien fährst aber am Abend auf der Bahn die 200 abdrückst, in vollendetem Luxus! 😎 Ziehs durch, solange es uns noch gestattet ist (Habeck ist gleich um die Ecke😉)

[@milhouse147]

@@philippangst Die Legende besagt, immer wenn irgendwo ein V8 gestartet wird, bekommt in diesem Moment ein Grüner Durchfall.

[@puddingwh0le918]

just bought an 08 at 73,000 miles on it. this is going to be fun

[@caspernoble9468]

Just got my l322.. changing ball joints rotors brakes.. sensors.. tune up now..

[@pug2052]

3l Vogue SE here sitting on 204000 love your videos

[@paulniggel]

I am on my 2nd l322 had for 5 yrs now & apart from neutral switch & refirb on compressor touch wood never let me down ; the trick is good maintainence

[@Adventures-and-More]

Owned one for 8 years, only two major failures. The common and known fuel pump wiring issue and a failed alternator at 130k miles

[@vijoywinson9246]

now I would realy like to buy my fav vehicle..thanks for the video

[@tristanboler2782]

Spot on Mark! Totally agree. I have a 2012 115k miles, done approx 7000 miles in the 16months of ownership. Loads of preventative maintenance. Did all my fluids Inc coolant flush and steering fluid change. Oil service every 5000 miles, 2nd MOT in couple of months. Had AC compressor replaced, alternator, pulleys and belts were already done. Got 3 original air struts, one was done previously thinking of overhauling them next year. Great machine, Mrs is using it more than me at the moment 🤣. Love the videos, good work. Btw where is your rear camera for the Auto ox rear view screen mounted? Assume built in reverse camera still works? Cheers and have a good weekend 👍

[@fourbyforester]

Great video, great plans. 👍👍👍

[@Overlanding4WD]

Thanks 👍

[@AJ-yw5zy]

Great video again, it proves preventative maintenance works.

[@murraylynn1013]

Very informative, thank you.

[@morris3j]

Another awesome video! You have done a lot of preventative work over last 12ths. I have a 17yr old and has taken me 3yrs to replace front and rear upper lower suspension parts, wheel bearings, brakes (inc callipers), compete wet flush twice. The one part that caught me out was the ‘Starter’ motor. Didn’t think about this part. It was original and after 17yrs with no warning just stopped. All fixed now! Ps: oil and filter every 5k miles !

[@Overlanding4WD]

Only way to manage theses vehicles, look after them. I need to get my starter refurbished too, if it’s the original, it will need replacing soon.

[@morris3j]

@@Overlanding4WD I would recommend that’s your next job. The Starter motor caught me out big time! But when you think about how many times it had been cycled over 17yrs it’s common sense. With a new one installed gives me piece of mind every time I turn the key 👍

[@Overlanding4WD]

Yep, and a refurbished alternator, once the front is all apart, it’s easy to get at, makes sense to renew everything at once, oil pump, water pump etc. it deserves it 😀👍🏻

[@phill-w]

Great informal video 😉

[@jackiechan8840]

Great car

[@FleetAdmiral215]

The L322 my favourite Range Rover , I own a 2015 Mercedes ML W166 4x4 & it's great but am going to buy a 2012 L322 at some Stage, It's Timeless still looks fantastic & its the ultimate 4x4 , Great Video

[@Overlanding4WD]

Thanks

[@mikelaurie3850]

Great luck!

[@Mike-yq6jg]

Great video many thanks

[@marktalbot4wd]

Thank you!

[@marcofonseca84]

At this time i wish o still live in the Uk... i am Portuguese, in Portugal, and a L322 td6 from 2003 start at arround 17000 euros!!! But i am still looking to find one that will be mine! Keep up! 💪

[@robholland6460]

There is an updated pulley on top left of engine. Make sure it’s done. Glenrands did mine when it was all replaced. Tick on start up is quite norma but not when hot.

[@Overlanding4WD]

I think that is whats going on with mine, left side, looking into the engine, stops when warm. Time to rip out the front end etc and replace everything. like you did. As you know, it’s rattling. 👍🏻

[@josephgittos3787]

Don't own one of these but what you have done is a good idea, these vehicles are big and heavy with lots of complicated things going on ie air suspension, with the weight brakes are going to be impacted and again the weight will still strain a large engine so makes sense to do oil and fluid changes, too many people buy these at a cheap price because they want the luxury and have come from a basic sized car that don't wear as much.

[@1chish]

I am more than happy that the naysayers poke fun at RRs and all the armchair engineers slag them off at the slightest fault. And why? Because hopefully next week I will be buying a rather scruffy but cleanable 2006 L322 3.6 Litre Vogue with an engine management light on. I have seen the DTC code and I am pretty sure I know how to fix it (ex HGV technician). And the car will cost me £1200, bought as seen, no warranty from a car dealer who took it in P/X. And its got 6 months MoT. But this video proves the point about maintenance be it scheduled or preventative. For example in the USA they buy a car and just run it forever until it breaks down and then complain. Not just RRs but most cars. Its surprising how few US car owners actually follow the maintenance schedules. And the USA is where most RR knockers live!

[@justinneill5003]

I can offer a balanced perspective as I own both a 2002 L322 (TD6) and a 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser LC3. Both now with around 200,000 miles on the clock. I’ve owned the Range Rover for 12 years and the Toyota for 15 years. The Range Rover is kept abroad as a holiday car and covers 3500-4000 miles a year. The Toyota is my everyday car and covers around 10,000 miles a year. In the time I’ve owned the Range Rover, I’ve had new gearbox, turbocharger, front air suspension, fuel pump, wiper motor, brake pipe, discs all round, calipers x 2, handbrake assembly, control arms, driver’s seat valance, and some minor bodywork. Total cost around £16,000. The Toyota has had a new clutch and more recently, new alternator. But this is misleading because when I bought the Toyota it had 26,000 miles on it, as opposed to the Range Rover which had 160,000 miles on it and had not been well looked after, so I was paying for the previous owners’ neglect to a large extent, hence most of the expensive jobs occurred within the first 4 years of ownership. all the parts I’ve replaced, I’m now reaching a “plateau” where the maintenance issues are more reflective of its annual mileage. Now it gets serviced every year by Land Rover (which means every 4000 miles) and gets full anti rust treatment also every year. So yes, all in all the Range Rover is a higher maintenance vehicle, partly because of all its additional features and partly, it has to be said, because of niggling intrinsic weaknesses like water ingress and rust vulnerability, and (with the TD6 at least) because the gearbox is not the best for this engine. But I think the issues are overblown, because of the number of disillusioned second hand buyers who went in with their eyes shut and we’re not prepared, and probably paid for the previous owners’ neglect. Preventative maintenance is the way to go. Personally I don’t replace anything if it’s still functioning properly but I do so at the first hint of an issue, and I will be flushing and replacing the gearbox oil at least every 40,000 miles (regardless of Land Rover’s “sealed for life” claim!) And full anti rust treatment each year. I paid 13,000 Euros for my L322 and if I’ve spent around 18,000 euros since then, that makes 31,000 euros (around £28,000), most of it staggered over 12 years. Most people would consider £28000 reasonable to drive a lovely vehicle like the L322. Just get full service history before purchase, comprehensive breakdown cover with recovery (makes sense whatever you drive) and have access to another vehicle or means of transport if needed.

[@Overlanding4WD]

Too many people buy these vehicles and can’t afford to run them, or fix them, so cut corners, sell them on, and the cycle begins again, they are not cheap to run or maintain, but as you point out, preventative maintenance is key, once sorted, and the bodges repaired, they are reliable. I saw a FB post recently where a guy put a new / rebuilt engine in his L322, yet put all the worm out, high milage ancillaries back on having run out of money, 3 months later the turbos blew and he now has a dead vehicle and trying to sell it to “get his money back” 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jameslovering9158]

Maybe also only for enthusiasts who enjoy working on vehicles, I guess thats kinda assumed though ?

[@MRFUCKOFF202]

I think what I'm seeing here is a bit of rose-tinted glasses. If you replace several parts as "preventative maintenance" and change 17 different oils every year for £000s then I don't think that's my idea of a reliable vehicle, but rather one that you know is unreliable so giving extra effort to protect yourself. There's no denying these had several issues over the life, timing chains, turbos, brake pipe rust, body and chassis rust, suspension, intakes, gearboxes and valve stem seals to name a few. For comparison we've had a top spec IS250 for 8 years/14k miles, I think it's had engine oil/filter changes 3/4 times, none of that other stuff and had one sensor and exhaust flexi pipe in that time, still drives like a brand new car and no rust (ungaraged). Not to say of course that the usual reliability hate these get isn't overstated. There's no doubt the reliability is definitely influenced by the dick heads that often buy them and people that spend their entire paycheck on finance to get one. In contrast Jaguar XJs are known to be pretty reliable in the UK and that's down to the complete opposite type of owner buying them. Think if you buy the right one of these new or from the right previous owner it can be generally reliable.

[@Overlanding4WD]

Thanks for watching.

[@charliechetwood2358]

Great video! What's your remap situation? EGR, DPF? I get so many contrasting opinions on what to do and the legality on MOTs etc etc

[@Overlanding4WD]

EGR disabled, things runs fine. MOT passed, next one this week.

[@charliechetwood2358]

@@Overlanding4WD Ok sounds good, and DPF still in place and not gutted or coded out?

[@Overlanding4WD]

In place

[@johnmann2088]

Very interesting video. Would you mind sharing the costs for the various bits of PM you did? In particular how much changing the different fluids cost as I shall start there.

[@Overlanding4WD]

Every 5K miles, oil and filter change, every 20k miles, gearbox filter and change, plus the f / r diffs. Costs, £250 for oil and filter, £500 for gearbox and diffs. If you do the work yourself, take the service charges off that.

[@willwobs7030]

hi where did you get them window stickers on your back window from

[@Overlanding4WD]

I designed them and had them printed

[@willwobs7030]

@@Overlanding4WD aa I carnt fiend eny on the Internet

[@marktalbot4wd]

@@willwobs7030 you won’t, as I said, I designed them and had a local company print and install them.

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

Those

[@HORNET6]

Could I buy your car please as my first L322?

[@Overlanding4WD]

“Not for Sale” 😬

[@charliechetwood2358]

Also Toyota's are basic, cheap and dull. They have nothing on them to go wrong. Any luxury car with air suspension, heated and cooled seats, electronic everything will need more care than a simple back to basics Toyota. A Range Rover is a complicated luxury car, the same levels of reliability as any big Audi, Merc or BMW, it's to be expected

[@Overlanding4WD]

Totally agree! Boring, out of date boxes. Soulless. 👍🏻

[@davidoetting1551]

These are complicated but extremely well made. I have six L322s in different places for different reasons. I love maintaining them, and only one of six is in the shop at any given time. All are I excess of 120k miles.

[@lionelanderson2368]

Love these cars. Can we see more of the car and less of you? Nothing personal. Also, Toyota owners...if they put as much effort into looking after their landcruisers, they simply would not die...ever. But nice video nevertheless.

[@timothydobrynski9028]

Cheers mate I own one in the USA I am a trolly driver but enjoy driving mine as much as I can enjoyed the video

[@rosendodominguez-dw4rt]

JAST GAT RED OF THE WORLAS JAN K AND GO GAT A TOYOTA. YOU WII TANK ME WAY LAYTOR .🐼🐰🐝👽👽👽

[@Overlanding4WD]

What? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

Is there a translator in the house?

[@rjdavey68]

modern Toyotas just about the most over-rated vehicles you can buy. Living off past (reliability) glories.