2 0f 3 David Hockney, The Lost Secrets of the Old Masters: camera lucida obscura

[@oficioerico2005]

good discussion, ecretos remain stored in the history of each artist

[@Bob12345678910423]

Don't go throwing around names. Obviously more went into it than just filling in the lines, but do you totally deny the idea that maybe some of the Dutch and Flemish masters used a device (which was quite simple to construct, I've made several camera obscuras) for layout? Vermeers milk pitcher is a painting that many historians guessed may have been created with a camera obscura before his book came out. The draftsmanship just has such a photographic quality to it.

[@Renilou2]

A lot of speculation and looks like more trouble than what its worth. I know that according to history, Da Vinci invented the graph that he always had attached to his easel. He looked through it to his subject and drew from that. Even measuring from your pencil held out in front of you to subject is less of a hassle.

[@johnnyM025]

Yes, the interviewer knows nothing, Hockney spent his whole life investigatinf studying and working as an artist.

[@tobywrightfineart1970]

A man who is sinking in his own puzzlement about art.....

[@johnnyM025]

This is a man who is thinking, puzzling about art , what it is , how you do it etc. Ok assumptions GregorHo. we All make assumptions...........so WHAT !??

[@tobywrightfineart1970]

no names being thrown & no denying of the camera obscura at all. Vermeer and Ingres for sure used it, you can tell by their unwavering drawing lines that resemble tracing rather than drawing. but David is pretending to be revealing the holy grail to those who can't draw that well, such as himself. This contributes to the dumbing down of draftsmanship, and misinterpretation of technique vs. expression in art history.

[@sonsoftheedelweiss72]

Who cares still got to know color and a plethora of techniques then u got to paint it.

[@romanrails2]

Art-nazi. LOL. I think that hits the mark concerning the hate and vitriol directed at David Hockney. How far a stretch is it to assume that artists used these techniques earlier than we suspected? Jeez. Does it spoil your own imaginings of how these works were created. Get over art-nazis.