2.4 Ecotec 2013 Equinox Intake Pcv system drill out,and gas in oil,part 1

[@bobpalmer4740]

i drilled mine out all the way thru the manifold and then plugged the outside hole with a 4-40 screw. then if i test the port on the valve cover and it does not suck i can pull that screw and clean ut the pvc. one more thing i'm thinking of doing is just installing a pvc valve.

[@jimmykulik3438]

That's a great idea! But I would go with the catch can on the cover PVC system because at low vacuum high speed and under load the blowby is much more than just idling. But mount it below the radiator hose so any oil and water flows directly into the catch can no elevation or the line will fill and not flow. I put a oil filler cap that has the gm one way valve this protects you from blowing the rear main seal. 2.4 are actually good engines but mobile one synthetic oil with the dextos additive and mobile one synthetic oil filter and never let the level drop not even a little bit! If you have a 2.4 that uses oil you take carbon remover remove the plugs pour 4 ounces in each cylinder let it sit for 24 hours and rotate no plugs blow it out and install plugs. This will remove the carbon from the rings. Gm uses low tension rings to get high mileage and efficiency, but didn't plan on carbon buildup causing rings to stick. Did 4 equinox oil burners and after the treatment no oil consumption! You can use sea foam instead of carbon remover or even penetrating fluid like blaster 50

[@sbond1963]

That diesel noise is actually the follower for the high-pressure fuel pump. It was visible in your video inside the hole. It’s a $40 part replace that and all that noise goes away.

[@uofm49426]

If you get snow and cold add a oil catch to the pcv

[@donaldhollums3278]

So, Mr. Tim...this is three years after the video you made...I made a huge mistake of buying a 2012 Equinox with the 2.4L as well. I saw another video of a mechanic doing the same thing of making that small passage way a little larger for the pcv system to breathe better. Is that a better long term fix than drilling a hole in the plastic intake as so many others have done and inserting a small screw? I'm trying to avoid doing that. I'm subscribed now.

[@timzauto]

Either way is fine,I was just showing one way you can and to emphasize the importance on this particular Engine to modify/create a way for the Engine to be ventilated.

[@donaldhollums3278]

@@timzauto thanks for the info, Sir. I should get the Delco FC219 vented cap in the mail tomorrow. I'm trying to do all I can to preserve this junk as long as possible for the time being. The Equinox has 166,000 miles on it. That 2.4L makes as much racket as the old "Iron Duke".

[@MrSteve19791]

So does it push the oil past the rear main and ruin the seal or only leaking past it because of the pressure?

[@timzauto]

Oil pressure the blow by,the pcv system also removes crankcase gasses generated by the combustion process that will sludge up and destroy the engine.

[@integrity262]

I having the same problem with my 2013 Chevy Malibu eco.Oil in the throttle body

[@daytonprice2141]

You ever figure this out and did your Malibu have a slight unsteady idle?

[@Texan1]

Will this fix a p0300 code We already replaced 02 sensors,injectors,high pressure pump,maf,map,plugs,coils vvt,exhaust solenoid, compression is 210,190,210,210 left to right

[@timzauto]

How many miles on it?

[@Texan1]

150k

[@timzauto]

Plz tell me you've done the timing chain?

[@Texan1]

Yup and water pump

[@timzauto]

@@Texan1 that pcv system I show how to may fix your problem. A malfunctioning PCV valve can disrupt the air to fuel mixture causing a misfire code,only a few other things will also,including a leaking head gasket,it will show random misfire because the coolant is getting on the plugs,happens every time.but you have good compression readings besides the second one down 20

[@t-metz2024]

With the intake in place, Could you drill a small hole from the exterior to access the pcv port to clean it out. Then tap and install a pipe plug to seal it?

[@timzauto]

No,that wouldn't work,you have to drill from the inside,the intake isn't that bad,and by making the hole bigger you will never have to do it again.

[@350Zquicksilver]

I just had the same thought yesterday, LOL. That hole leads to others. You should spray into that orifice during cleaning. It clears out the other holes in the plenum. That's what I read on the interweb...

[@bradysolaem2467]

Aint fun to do that job the rear main would dump a quart every 10 min at idle! The pcv didnt even look clogged indicators of water however and ice when it's cold enough. Scaryy customer don't wanna do this fix PER TSB FROM CHEVROLET AFTER ALL THAT TIME AND WORK SMH

[@bradysolaem2467]

Drilling into the motor at any coolant or oil passage is a good way to create an obstruction/ blockage and or clogged oil pick up tube or coolant ports where most narrow between cylinder sleeves and the block

[@bradysolaem2467]

Halfhearted repairs lead to wholeheatedaches more money spent than doing it thru and thru the FIRST TIME

[@bradowens2269]

So I have a bunch of questions I'm about to change my oil I just had a new valve cover and timing chain and gears, oil pump and vvt solenoid and after less then 2500 miles later I do and oil change cause it starts making noises and now I think they have the wrong valve cover on it never seen anything like this before please help I'm also in Ga

[@timzauto]

What type of noise,when does it happen,some,or all the time,hot or cold?

[@bradowens2269]

@@timzauto more so when accelerating its soft when idle I'm going to change my transmission fluid then go from there but I believe it's the wrong valve cover

[@kennethhildebrand3670]

I performed this procedure including new gasket set and cleaning the throttle body, after reassembly idle is very high (1700rpm) if I slightly tap and release the accelerator, rpms climb to 3000 and slowly return to about 1700 . Any ideas?

[@timzauto]

Make sure u don't have a vacuum leak,if you unplugged the electric throttle body u will have to do a re-learn on it.

[@kennethhildebrand3670]

I tried idling and driving at freeway speeds for about 30 minutes, no difference. Would the relearn have to be performed with a diagnostic tool? No vacuum leak found. Thank you for your response, I am now subscribed!

[@timzauto]

@@kennethhildebrand3670 1) Start the engine and let it idle in park for 3 minutes. During that period the idle may be higher idle than normal. 2) After 3 minutes, turn the engine off and leave it off for 60- seconds. 3) Start the engine again and let it idle in park for 3 minutes one more time. During these run periods you may see a check engine light. Scan for codes and if you get throttle body related codes, clear them. 4) If the idle speed is still off, drive the vehicle at speeds above 44-mph and operate several acceleration and deceleration cycles. Then repeat step #3 one last time.

[@timzauto]

Or try this:Turn ignition switch “ON” and wait at least 2 seconds. Turn ignition switch “OFF” wait at least 10 seconds. Turn ignition switch “ON” and wait at least 2 seconds. Turn ignition switch “OFF” wait at least 10 seconds.

[@kennethhildebrand3670]

@@timzauto I really appreciate your time, I will try both of these. Thank you!!!

[@kampoeng2227]

i have problem with my captiva, which is got the white smoke from exhaust, is it problem with pcv like as this video ?, thank you

[@timzauto]

White smoke will be either,it's very old out,or the vehicle has a problem with the head gasket,if it's thick white smoke could be oil burning,is it the 2.4?

[@kampoeng2227]

@@timzauto yup

[@coachtechchs]

TMZ, 2013 2.4 ecotec was running after shutting off like shown. Also, fuel pump issue and I replaced the HP pump. Seemed to fix issue. But I had one other problem. The shroud had oil in it. Obviously coming from pcv. What’s the issue? Clogged pcv? It doesn’t leak oil anywhere but it was burning lots between changes. Hope you have some advice. Thanks for video

[@timzauto]

It's the pcv system,just follow my steps and make that hole larger.if you have any questions just ask.

[@Mobile1mechanic]

Install a oil catch can,helps the pcv system a lot

[@tssci6774]

Did you clean out the other 4 ports in the manifold. You ought a teach them how to test the PCV orifice, only takes 10 seconds and it will prevent a rear main seal blow-out. Also use a GM approved AC Delco FC219 vented oil cap for those in cold climates

[@timzauto]

Yeah your right,I will also be doing a video shortly on the old 3.8 Fords with the runner problems,I'll show how to clean and drill out those runners and replace them also.coming up..

[@94jimmy5]

You mean the other 8 ports? There are two in each runner.

[@tssci6774]

@@94jimmy5 I have only found one port in each intake runner. My local GM technician and Jasper Engines, a major rebuilder, also only indicates one per runner.

[@randikalicki5056]

I have a 2011 and have been having some issues. My oil cap is milky white. Went to replace the high pressure fuel pump, got a Delphi pump and it threw the whole car off. Put the old high pressure fuel pump back in, codes are gone. Could the pcv system be causing the milkyness in my oil?

[@timzauto]

Yes it can,and u have to make sure to line up the high pressure fuel pump to the cam follower or it will not work,I do those fuel pumps every week and I see the oil caps like u describe,sometimes it's just moisture,if it doesn't over heat than u should be alright,go ahead and do the procedure I show and hopefully it will vent better.

[@randikalicki5056]

Thanks. I cleaned out the pvc system. Also did line up the pump with the cam but still didn’t work. Seems this time and in the past working on it, if the replacement part isn’t ACDelco it doesn’t work. Car is super finicky. Considering installing an oil catch can. Any thoughts on them??

[@timzauto]

@@randikalicki5056 I haven't seen the need for one on those engines,but if you want to it want hurt anything.I'm not a huge fan of those engines,but I do no that after I drill a bigger access for the pcv to breathe,change the oil every 2,000 miles,yes every 2,000 they seem to do alot better.

[@robertvanderbaan3722]

Oil cap milky white? Indicates water in the oil. Possible cool8ng system intrusion, such as the head gasket.

[@ferndog1461]

Thank you, Brother.

[@levijones8942]

I have a 15 lacrosse with the 2.4, do you know if it still has PCV issues? I’m not sure but i treat it as if it does. I already have a vented oil cap for it and I’ve replaced the intake, as mine was cracked. Do you have any other recommendations? I do live in a very cold climate and I know these engines don’t like that.

[@timzauto]

Yes it is the same engine,if the hole hasn't been made bigger like I show to do,it will clog up and blow a real main seal.

[@dosgos]

What vented oil cap did you get?

[@ace00007]

@@timzauto Do you recommend adding a catch can to keep it from happening again?

[@timzauto]

@@ace00007 On a stock non turbo Ecotec no.

[@ace00007]

@@timzauto then how do we keep it from happening again where the rear seal blows out? We are in Colorado and get some very cold weather at times.

[@jeancbosques]

I'm keep getting p0300 ,p089 and p229d after it warm up

[@timzauto]

Does it have turbo?

[@jimmykulik3438]

How large do you think you can get away with drilling the PVC hole?

[@timzauto]

I guess u could do 7/64 or maybe 1/8,but don't crack it or go to much larger.

[@jimmykulik3438]

@@timzauto yes l figure if you go to big it would act like a intake air leak. I see were one guy drilled right through the entire intake and plugged the outside hole so now he simply removed the threaded plug he tapped on the outside of the intake and now he can access the PVC hole with a long wire when ever he wants to make sure it's not plugged. Found this interesting Gm should be paying attention.

[@sjwalker5696]

How about plug that hole on the intake cover and and install a filter for the valve cover like the old school motors what do you think let me know good video.

[@timzauto]

Well,the problem with that is you will never know if you're getting sufficient ventilation from the engine,and if that happens The PCM cannot make up for that loss of airflow, so you’ll have a really bad rich condition.When carbon builds up on the backside of the valves, it works like an insulator not allowing the valve to cool down properly when it’s in contact with the seat.I'm not a fan of small engines with gdi or turbo,but that is the future.

[@sjwalker5696]

@@timzauto 1973 Chevy Camaro valve cover has a filter on one of the valve covers it never gets plugged up how about do the same to this equinox motor and plug the intake cover problem solved what do you think

[@timzauto]

@@sjwalker5696 I'm sure something could be created like that for it,all ecotec engines are like that,those engines are designed for the whole pcv system to be integrated in the valve cover.once one leaks you have to replace the entire valve cover.

[@rhurtadorh32]

All you gotta do is buy a new oil cap,drill a hole to it and install a pcv valve with groomet.on the pcv valve add a hose and re direct it to a oil catch can in port. Then grab a tee brass and install it in the vacuum hose from the intake and direct the hose to the out port of the can. Know you have a working pcv system. Its like 50$ with the oil catch can. Thank me later.

[@timenloe703]

It would be good to see a procedure on drilling an access hole...

[@timzauto]

Not that hard,just drill the hole in the intake as shown in the video a little larger.

[@101aigle]

@@timzauto I drilled the hole and the engine is whisling real bad.

[@hemenwayhaulingllc1783]

Where's part 2 of this video? Why was there oil in your fuel?

[@timzauto]

The high pressure fuel pump was leaking fuel back into the engine,replaced it and problem fixed,here is part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHKclWN9hciFb5Y

[@hemenwayhaulingllc1783]

@@timzauto Thank you very much

[@boilertech44]

Warning! Do not drill out the hole any larger on the intake manifold. This creates a larger vacuum on the engine and the intake manifold will have to be replaced! Warning! Do not drill any larger! I have customers who have done this and engine whistles with suction. Only fix it replace the intake manifold.

[@timzauto]

This engine will not whistle with the whole larger, I've done around a hundred, and not ONE did, the other Ecotec engine that I did a video on you will replace the valve cover not drill, but this engine will be fine. Only drill the whole slightly larger, if you drill to big of a whole of course it would make noise, thanks for watching.

[@bakedveal2624]

@@timzauto Whats slightly? The service bulletin says a 1/16. Can you go larger?

[@timzauto]

@@bakedveal2624 yes,but not too much,you just want it a little larger so it doesn't get stopped up as easy,you want that engine to breathe.

[@101aigle]

@@timzauto I drilled 3/16 and the engine whisles bad.

[@brianjamieclark6340]

I’m in Georgia. Can I get you to work in my equinox

[@timp7345]

Great video thanks.

[@timzauto]

Glad you liked it!

[@bradysolaem2467]

This would cause the vehicle to have no oil on the dipstick after only a couple thousand kilometers

[@coachtechchs]

That’s ours. When I replaced the high pressure pump I had lots of oil in shroud. Pressure in manifold obviously but no leaks anywhere. Yet. How do i fix that I wonder? Same way?

[@joogullae3456]

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[@JamminClemmons]

* *SHIT!* * I'm a 20 year retired military veteran. Two weeks ago, I bought a 2019 Equinox LT. It only had 18,400 miles on it and was a leased vehicle before I bought it (one owner). I hope I didn't screw-up by buying this. - NOTE: It has brand new tires on it (okay, they're the cheaper Walmart tires, the AWD Mastercraft Grand Touring all Season). But, like I said, they're brand new. - Perhaps I should trade it in in two years? Any thoughts from you car pro's? I'd appreciate it. - *"Fair winds and following seas" to all.* From a 20 year, aircraft carrier man. Boy, do I have stories.

[@timzauto]

I like the Equinox and the Ecotec engines,I work on them all the time,yes they have a few issues but they are still good vehicles and engines,and thank you for your service.

[@sdhute]

@@timzauto if you were only in FL my wife's car uses 2 quarts of oil every 1500 miles. I also dislike that shallow oil dipstick a pain to check.

[@nathanhuebner6430]

Why couldn’t you just tap a aftermarket breather into the oil fill cap, way quicker and easier

[@timzauto]

That still wouldn't alleviate the problem,that would only allow that portion to breath not were it is designed too,you would have to re route from the original not just make one up.

[@joogullae3456]

Nice Tbak gou

[@taylorhester658]

Awesome

[@adolfoescalante3008]

That engine sound's more like eco rattle than eco tec

[@Rick-ci5hj]

I'm going to show you how to take it off, skips to the part where 20 parts have been taken off ...I'm not going to show you how to do it i..t's easy... I drilled that out you saw me do that, actually no we didn't.. you showed all the parts laying on the ground and then you showed it back together...

[@timzauto]

Yeah that was my bad,that was the very first video and I was busy at that time so I was just trying to do a small tutorial towards the Ecotec's problems,but the intake I took off is very easy and once you get it off just drill where the hole already exists,you are just making it bigger,thanks for watching.

[@dav1d918]

Well shi*** I just found out thanks to you that my mechanic screw me over I pay 2200 for a job this easy. he said was more job done to it but I know is not true because I know that engine

[@timzauto]

That job should be around $300-400 tops with the parts.

[@dav1d918]

@@timzauto to late now I guess but thank you sr

[@ricksop9234]

need to keep the camera still for a bit ,,,,,,???????

[@bubbahubba5009]

My whole engine blew all the oil out the back GM paid for the whole thing at my Chevy dealer I could not believe it cus so many have been screwed by GM over this engine oil blowout

[@timzauto]

Yeah,if u catch it in time it want happen,they are still good little running engines.

[@danielmorgan4899]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD don’t buy one of these !

[@jamesseigler704]

Please do away with the annoying ass music

[@timzauto]

Yeah,this was the first one I did with a new video service,and used that music,check out my latest one it doesn't have as much music,lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5m7knWXaZWVn5o