2 Black Rain Ordnance SPEC15 Machinegun Autopsies (SEE DESCRIPTION) - Part 1/2

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School of the American Rifle

School of the American Rifle

8 ай бұрын

This video is 2 hours long, so we listed all of the problems below. Both guns are 100% Factory beyond the broken parts that were replaced by the Agency (Autosear Pin & Hammer Pin). A few hundred rounds have been fired through each gun. No one has modified, disassembled, or changed anything beyond the broken pins. mentioned above.
We apologize the the background noise. We had numerous issues with our camera equipment and microphone. We hope to eliminate these issues before our next video.
We did NOT make all of the repairs I wanted to perform because the repairs were not approved at the time of the video. We are working to have the proper fixes approved. If the proper fixes are approved, we will make a Part 2 and include 4 more identical rifles.
BRO SPEC15 Gun #1 & Suppressor
• Won’t Run Over gassed (Ejection Pattern)
• Erratic Ejection Carrier Bolt Tail Run Oversize (Insufficient Gas System)
• Bolt Catch Stiff (Cause - Rough Bolt Catch & Sprinco Orange Buffer Spring)
• 1 Carrier Key Screw Loose (Gas Leakage - Carrier Key & Screws should be replaced)
• Rail System Loose Gas Tube Loose in Gas Block (Insufficient Gas System) Gas Block Shot Loose (Lack of Thread locker & Torque - Reinstalled with Rocksett)
• Bolt Cam Pin Hole accepted No Go Gauge (Short Life Expectancy)
• .085 Gas Port (.015 Oversize about 40% Over gassed)
• No Grease/Torque or Thread lockers on Rail System Screws (Rail System Loose)
• Cheap Roll Pins (Replaced Ejector Pin with 420 Stainless Spirol)
• Adjustable Gas Block (Untrustworthy for a Defensive Gun)
• Orange Spring (Approx. 2x Power of a standard Carbine Spring & Damaging Autosear/Sear Pin)
• Insufficient Gas Key to Lower Receiver Gap
• Castle Nut Under torqued & NOT Staked (Wrong Thread locker used in place of Staking - Reinstalled with VC-3)
• Bad Extractor Spring (Replaced with Sprinco 5 Coil)
• Weak Ejector Spring (Replaced with Sprinco)
• Bolt not High Pressure Tested Gas Tubes Roll Pin Damaged Hammer Spring worn
BRO SPEC15 Gun #2 & Suppressor
• Runs but Over gassed (Ejection Pattern)
• Short Headspace
• 2 Carrier Key Screws Loose (Gas Leakage- Carrier Key & Screws should be replaced)
• Cratered/Pitted Firing Pin Tip & Magnetized (Replaced Firing Pin)
• No Grease/Torque or Thread lockers on Rail System Screws
• Bolt Cam Pin Hole is not Swaged/Peened Rough Ejector Tunnel in Bolt (Deburred)
• .084 Gas Port (.014 Oversize about 40% Over gassed)
• Cheap Roll Pins (Replaced Ejector Pin with 420 Stainless Spirol)
• Adjustable Gas Block (Untrustworthy for a Defensive Gun)
• Orange Spring (Approx. 2x Power of a standard Carbine Spring & Damaging Autosear/Sear Pin)
• Insufficient Gas Key to Lower Receiver Gap
• Castle Nut Under torqued & NOT Staked (Wrong Thread locker used in place of Staking- Reinstalled with VC-3)
• Bad Extractor Spring (Replaced with Sprinco 5 Coil)
• Weak Ejector Spring (Replaced with Sprinco)
• Bolt not High Pressure Tested Gas Tubes Roll Pin Damaged Hammer Spring worn

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@CombatCulture11B
@CombatCulture11B 5 ай бұрын
I wish I would have seen this video sooner. I am a former builder for black rain ordnance. I worked for them as an armorer/builder for their production guns as well as customer warranty issues. First and foremost. Black Rain sources their barrels and bolt carrier groups from Anderson and Bear Creek Arsenal. While working for Black Rain, upon every barrel shipment I as a builder was instructed to line the barrels up on a table, squirt oil in to them, and take a brass brush on a drill to the chambers. I was also instructed to drill out the gas ports with a drill bit. Now I, as somebody who takes pride in their work, took care to make sure the drill bit did not come in contact with the inside and opposite side of the rifling inside the barrel when drilling out these gas ports as to not affect accuracy or durability. The president of the company, Justin Harvell. Examined me taking time on said barrels when walking through the manufacturing side. Justin proceeded to tell me that I was taking too long and that he didn’t care if the rifling got a “scuff or two” and demanded that I press through without care or attention to detail. With bolt carrier groups and barrels now being subject to the price of these rifles. I will now move on to the rails/barrel nuts. When installing barrel nuts I was given no instruction as to torque spec. “Force the gas tube to line up with the barrel nut” was the general guidelines given. As an experienced armorer this is obviously not the correct route for assembly. Furthermore, the screws that lock the rail up with the barrel nut are “torqued” with dewalt drills. Yes. Drills. There is absolutely no torque spec for the screws. And there is zero loctite applied to ensure said screws do not come loose. In addition, further in to my employment with Black Rain, I was asked to work an event out of state that I wish not to disclose at this time in fear that I may be sued or pressed with litigations if Black Rain were to find out my identity. (Yes I am commenting under an alias) Before working this event I was instructed by CEO Justin Harvell to tell any inquiring customers at the Black Rain booth that ALL parts are made in house in Neosho Missouri as well as stringent QC measures enacted that absolutely never took place. Black Rain made ZERO parts in house and outsourced everything from the absolute cheapest manufacturers that they could attain. Bear creek arsenal BCG’s and barrels came in and were laser engraved with their logo as a facade to mark their parts/guns up at a premium price. Further more. Before working this event, the sales manager called me in to his office, among every other employee that was scheduled to work the out of state event, and advised us that Black Rain was unwilling to pay us our hourly wage for hours worked at this event. We were instructed to come up with a “dollar amount” that made us feel okay with working the event in order to prevent paying overtime hours while away from home. As an armorer making $11 an hour I was instructed that the “hourly wage” needed to fall below current pay standards in order to keep overtime down. My own personal transgressions aside regarding this. I would like to inform the AR community that when purchasing a Black Rain rifle, you are purchasing, at best, a sub par, budget rifle, that’s marketed with a cool name and brand logo, horrible QC, and bad business practice not only to the consumer but to employees as well. The cerekote options they offer are about the only thing they can get right. I have long since left the company and would advise anybody who values the money they work for to be spent with any other AR company that produces legit rifles. Although this comment was long. I hope any and all who have considered Black Rain as a potential purchase will steer clear. Feel free to message me regarding any other mal practice regarding Black Rain.
@markpaul2833
@markpaul2833 5 ай бұрын
Great info. Thanks for the comment. Bought one for 900. I do like the look of these rifles. With a couple upgrades, might be able to make it a top quality rifle without paying the 2k. I plan on building a top quality rifle first. But glad these videos were out there and good to come across this info.
@ayitsyaboi
@ayitsyaboi 5 ай бұрын
@@markpaul2833 at $900 you're throwing money away trying to polish a turd.
@markpaul2833
@markpaul2833 5 ай бұрын
@@ayitsyaboi what's done is done.
@markpaul2833
@markpaul2833 5 ай бұрын
@ayitsyaboi maybe with a little research, I could have saved myself $900. But I'm buying a new rifle or gonna assemble another one. But it's only $900. Will just work a few more days and get it back. If it still shoots then it does exactly what it's intended to. I can worry about the other stuff with my next build. But I plan to get a 7.62 next. DD6 or DD5. But I've seen some BCCM I like too. So will have to weigh the odds and try to get something the looks and feels good to me.
@ayitsyaboi
@ayitsyaboi 5 ай бұрын
@@markpaul2833 nah I wasn't trying to be judgey or anything, it just seems like there are better options for starters that would cost less than trying to fix that one. You're essentially starting from scratch, anyway but if yours is a good example there's no harm. Upgrade what/when you can and eventually you'll have the build you want in the end.
@ansoniaproductions
@ansoniaproductions 7 ай бұрын
Respectfully sir, please stop apologizing for giving us exactly what we want, 2 hours of high yield, professional commentary from an expert. To those who may complain: If you can't watch it in one sitting, imagine SOTAR dropped six separate 20 minute videos at once. A truly glorious day. But do not bite the hand that feeds you. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. SOTAR.
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 7 ай бұрын
Well said.
@peady64
@peady64 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree.
@IanYager
@IanYager 5 ай бұрын
Perfect comment.
@HowardGambergrotowerkz
@HowardGambergrotowerkz 5 ай бұрын
@HowardGambergrotowerkz
@HowardGambergrotowerkz 5 ай бұрын
​@IanYager
@MyCCW
@MyCCW 7 ай бұрын
A 2-hour banger..phone is on silent and the office door is closed.
@blueeyeddevil1
@blueeyeddevil1 7 ай бұрын
Shout out to Black Rain Ordnance's QC Department for giving us this phenomenal learning opportunity 👍😉
@jgrenwod
@jgrenwod 7 ай бұрын
Well said!
@Manco65
@Manco65 7 ай бұрын
Yeah 2 days ago I happened to drive right past that place. Felt a little cringe in the force driving past it.
@montevallomustang
@montevallomustang 6 ай бұрын
So those mp marked bolts are the same one radical uses in their $400 budget rifles. I bought one of the radical rifles to put a binary trigger in for a range toy and it chewed the bolt up rapidly. I can't believe black rain uses the same bolt in a duty machine gun 😂
@Alexanderofthe9th
@Alexanderofthe9th 6 ай бұрын
​@@montevallomustangmy rf15 was what taught me not all ars are just as good just because they line up on a spec sheet. Didn't even bother sending it back for repairs, just sold it and moved on with the valuable life lesson.
@chrish.6934
@chrish.6934 5 ай бұрын
😂 well put sir, very well put
@frogchaser
@frogchaser 7 ай бұрын
I'm trying to imagine why any person or agency would pick one of these out of all the quality rifles on the market
@ZPOLLAK
@ZPOLLAK 7 ай бұрын
Marketing, probably. Lots of people don't do research.
@robertfrost8531
@robertfrost8531 7 ай бұрын
Lowest bid. The purchase was approved by the bean counters, not by the people whose lives depend on them. It's the exact same reason 9mm is chosen when departments purchase the guns and ammo vs. .40 or .45 when the officers purchase the guns and ammo.
@frozennorth3426
@frozennorth3426 7 ай бұрын
@@robertfrost8531Why do you imagine units with budgets for KACs and 40K nightvision and all the hand-chosen gear and training they could want have also switched from 45s to 9s?
@richardbarber4380
@richardbarber4380 7 ай бұрын
Local agency within same county as manufacturer.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 7 ай бұрын
It's not their money, why care?
@ScottLilja
@ScottLilja 7 ай бұрын
Wow… as a certified AR15 armorer myself, I THOUGHT I knew these rifles as well as I ever could- until I saw this video. This is true mastery.
@NotALot-xm6gz
@NotALot-xm6gz 7 ай бұрын
Watching an expert explain complex and inter-dependant systems in such detail in a manner than people that have never ever touched an AR-15 platform can understand is extremely impressive.
@peady64
@peady64 6 ай бұрын
Heck, I have a lot of experience with the AR platform, and I still learn something new on every one of SOTAR's videos. A true artisan of the craft.
@rgr3427
@rgr3427 7 ай бұрын
These longer formats with in-depth inspections are GREAT ! Thank you sir.
@mikebrown4433
@mikebrown4433 7 ай бұрын
We don’t want to fast forward, we are all rewinding and making sure we get every detail. This is free class from a pro! Thank you
@longrangevoodoo4480
@longrangevoodoo4480 7 ай бұрын
Agencies being able to own full auto while civilians can't really pisses me off. (I know we "can". But no, we actually can't)
@tyvernoverlord5363
@tyvernoverlord5363 7 ай бұрын
Suppressed AND full auto at that! 💩
@1badombre82
@1badombre82 2 ай бұрын
And there vehicles don't need to meet emissions restrictions, exhaust sound restrictions, tint restrictions, or speed limits 😏. Made even worse by the fact that they don't need to be marked
@jp71889
@jp71889 7 ай бұрын
Man, watching you dissect these guns is so therapeutic. Thanks for sharing the entire, unedited process
@privatezim3637
@privatezim3637 7 ай бұрын
I think i might be a horrible person cuz I like watching how bad BRO guns are more than anything else on this channel.
@flawless1up
@flawless1up 7 ай бұрын
maybe it has something to do with people not listening to you when you say their bad azz American flag looking rifle is 3k doll hair trash. 😅
@HaroldTheSloth
@HaroldTheSloth 7 ай бұрын
You are not alone. It's entertaining just how bad these have been on the channel
@brian_b_music
@brian_b_music 7 ай бұрын
I was lookin at one of these back in 2010, I’m glad I never bought it. I’ve literally never heard anything good about Black Rain.
@snoork007
@snoork007 7 ай бұрын
​@brian_b_music I have one and it runs good but I know I'll have to pull it apart and fix it one day
@MonsterChuck
@MonsterChuck 7 ай бұрын
I have actually stopped into their store in southern MO and they are complete assholes. Don't feel bad when their shitty rifles do so poorly on this channel :)
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 7 ай бұрын
This is what happens when the wrong people make horrible choices for Patrol Issued Carbines . Or just not consulting the right people before the decision is made . Plenty of other Manufacturers out there who are significantly cheaper that actually work as advertised. I honestly do mot know why Agencies are not using SOLGW because of their Warranty. SOLGW , Centurion or Colt would be my main choices . Colt , and Centurion will always be my 2 go too rigs . Colt has not let me down in 17 years and Centurion has not let me down over the past 12 years . Ive gotten a lot of crap over the years for saying Colt is the gold standard . .. Absolutely phenomenal video bro .thanks
@ShepherdOfTheSilkies
@ShepherdOfTheSilkies 7 ай бұрын
Seen new LE colts with background castle nuts. The Colt name being synonymous with quality is definitely date dependent. New colts seem okay but for a minute there you had a good chance of getting a nonfunctional gun new when they’re supposed to be test fired.
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 7 ай бұрын
@@ShepherdOfTheSilkies I'm talking about TDP Colts . Have 0 experience with any Colt made after 2016.. Most of my Colts are from 1980s - 2012 time period .
@privatezim3637
@privatezim3637 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, Sons cannot make guns fast enough to meet demand. And while they apparently prioritize LE contracts I'd be plenty of agencies don't buy from them purely due to lead time.
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 7 ай бұрын
@@privatezim3637 there is only a handful of companies who can mass produce while maintaining that known quality . Colt in their prime GWOT days was cranking out around 300 M4 / M4A1 Carbines per shift and there was 3 shifts . FNMI can also mass produce . To my knowledge Colt / Colt Canada , FNMI , and LMT are the only ones who can mass produce 500K order . Sig might be able too but still unknown how well their quality will be . TDP Colts and FNMI are pretty polished when it comes to mass production . LMT can also mass produce but if they do they will not be able to maintain Commercial market and just have to focus on Mil sales . I seriously doubt HK , Geissele or DD could even do 25k order for complete Carbines . HK did 19k order for the M27 but they had 3 years to do it . Whereas Colt or FNMI had under 5 years to do 400K order . No way would BCM be able to do anywhere close to those numbers . I've heard Hodge Defense has been getting quite a few US DOD contracts but have 0 clue what that amount of Carbines is .. I have a buddy who in LE . They switched from Colt to DD about 5 years ago . They have little over 50 officers for the whole department. They went with DDM4A1s and SWAT Officers got issued an extra DD MK18 Upper . They are Semi Auto Carbines . I'll have to ask him how long it took them to fill that order . For all I know they might of been waiting a year lol.. I'd be curious to know what's the most used Carbine in LE across the USA . I bet theres metric crap ton still using Colt . Some might still be using Colt Canada lol. I do know the FBI mainly uses Geisseles and HRT might still be using 416s . I guess Federal LE is a whole other ball game when it comes to issued Rigs..
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 7 ай бұрын
@@privatezim3637 I know a decent of agencies in MARYLAND use LWRCI because it's based out of Cambridge MARYLAND
@muddyhotdog4103
@muddyhotdog4103 7 ай бұрын
Camera person (wife?) does a great job filming.. No flinch/jump when test firing and zooms in/out perfect timing.. just an observation
@onna-day7047
@onna-day7047 7 ай бұрын
That's me! 😊Thank you!
@j4fcowboy
@j4fcowboy 6 ай бұрын
As someone who spent 29 years both in military and law enforcement running similar platforms I learned more in this video than ever. Outstanding! Your ability to teach is commendable. Of course your knowledge is exceptional but your ability to hold my interest and get your point across was the key element. Thank you sir and thanks to your wife in filming. I look forward to more content.
@OFFICIALUND
@OFFICIALUND 7 ай бұрын
WHO IN TF BOUGHT BLACK RAIN ORDNANCE GUNS FOR AN LE DEPARTMENT??!??! Yes, all caps were necessary. They should be fired and be forced to pay the taxpayers back for such a reckless disregard for wasting their money.
@coltonowens2742
@coltonowens2742 7 ай бұрын
The SOTAR movie is finally out!
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 7 ай бұрын
SOTAR The BRO strikes back!
@flawless1up
@flawless1up 7 ай бұрын
bro rifles should be ashamed of themselves for pricing their garbage so high.
@joquin4618
@joquin4618 7 ай бұрын
Just did a quick internet search and holy smokes they’re ranging from $700 for the cheapest one, up to $2300 for their “top tier” stuff 😳
@raifsevrence
@raifsevrence 7 ай бұрын
@@joquin4618 "top tier" BRO rifles should come with a singing halmark card featuring a sample of DJ Khaled saying "congratulations! You played yourself!"
@thomashanke6750
@thomashanke6750 7 ай бұрын
Any length video is great as long as the educational value is there. Yours never fail !!!!!!!!😊
@Pitbully23
@Pitbully23 7 ай бұрын
I love watching these videos to learn as much as I can about the AR15 platform. You seem to know every possible detail and spec of the platform. You’re the only one on KZbin thats sharing such extensive detailed information about the AR specs with close up and clear video so we know exactly what you are talking about. Your wife does a great job with the camera by the way! I’ve learned so much from your videos so thank u both. I just wish I had all those tools you have so I can check all the specs on my AR parts like you do. We all appreciate what your doing.
@fnfailure
@fnfailure 7 ай бұрын
The Biohazard Symbol does those rifles justice avoid at all costs you'd think a Full Auto gas block would be pinned
@jefforymerten9613
@jefforymerten9613 6 ай бұрын
That's the biggest thing I took away from this video... you built a full-auto weapon and didn't pin the gas block? Tell me you don't care about getting it right without saying you don't care about getting it right.
@brianbrian9627
@brianbrian9627 7 ай бұрын
THIS. While this video did a number of thing's for me...here's three of them. 1. Not to second guess your own instinct (there are exceptions to every rule and this one requires at minimum, prior commonsense knowledge preferably through experience) to gain that "instinct" 2. Increased confidence in my own thought process. 3. Finding out how wonderfully soothing these video's are to listen too while falling asleep at night. 👍👍👍
@TheOtherFagola
@TheOtherFagola 7 ай бұрын
I know the rate of fire is way too high and that port size is a major problem but every mag dump brought a smile to my face.
@Eddie-vf4vx
@Eddie-vf4vx 7 ай бұрын
When I was younger I always wanted to be a gunsmith but after losing partial use of my right arm I had to give up that dream. But God has blessed me by letting me live through being wounded in combat.
@johnrugotzke3207
@johnrugotzke3207 7 ай бұрын
There is something so enjoyable about watching these exam and autopsy videos. Plus the learning opportunities.
@mikes8948
@mikes8948 7 ай бұрын
Least relevant comment I can make to an excellent educational video: You said, "My youngest son took one of my bits." My Dad used to say, "Well I guess the Tool Fairy took it" when I pled innocent to knowledge of the crime. 🤣
@robertrichards4974
@robertrichards4974 7 ай бұрын
One of my reasons for loving weaponry is the mechanical engineering involved to make them work. You provide the most in-depth information and reasoning for the how's and why's guns either work or they don't. Your obvious knowledge, experience, and expertise shows in the quality of your work and detail. I have no idea how long you have been doing this but if you don't train other armorers, you definitely should. The shooting world needs more truly qualified folks putting their hands on weapons. The long videos are great and I learned more in the last 2 1:59:31 hours than I have in the last 2 years. Thanks for your time and effort.
@smpinkerman
@smpinkerman 7 ай бұрын
Such an opportunity to be brought into this process. I started watching BCG autopsies and now I can’t get enough. There’s no substitute to learning from competence. Videos are long, but everything he teaches is then in context. Juice is 100% worth the squeeze. Thanks SOTAR. Wish I could come to a course.
@dancarter7009
@dancarter7009 7 ай бұрын
Love the long videos! Thank you & the camera lady for another awesome & informative video!
@onna-day7047
@onna-day7047 7 ай бұрын
You're welcome! 😊
@salvadormelendez9749
@salvadormelendez9749 7 ай бұрын
2 hours of my life well invested. Thank you for the quality content!
@DerWaidmann_
@DerWaidmann_ 7 ай бұрын
Idk why but there's a poetic irony in converting a Black Rain to full auto
@jamses23
@jamses23 7 ай бұрын
This is why I don’t trust LEO to save me or know anything about firearms.
@oldscratch3535
@oldscratch3535 7 ай бұрын
But they're trained! One thing I've learned over the years is just b/c someone works with guns doesn't mean they know a damn thing about them. I work for a well known AR-15 manufacturer. Most of the people I work with don't know jack shit. Even the engineers don't know the intricate details of firearm design. They're mechanical engineers, not firearm designers. And they often just work on one specific aspect of a design, whereas someone like J.M.B. was an actual inventor and firearm designer. I can tell just by looking at the tolerances on prints I get if the designer knows anything about guns and gun parts. Most of the time they spec way too tight of a tolerance on things that don't actually matter.
@GenX-Grampa
@GenX-Grampa 7 ай бұрын
What is BS is the fact that THEY are able to have select fire guns that we citizens can't! The country has gotten SO backwards!
@xciteful
@xciteful 7 ай бұрын
Watching you measure everything is somehow mesmerizing and rewarding.
@davisjames8484
@davisjames8484 7 ай бұрын
Only thing that slightly bothers me is that he doesn't have a checklist to go off of. He has missed gauges and dimensions before. He flip flops. He will be gauging one thing, suddenly remember to gauge another thing, leaving other parts laying.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
​​@@davisjames8484I do have a checklist and it's 328 points of inspection. I use the checklist when I'm working on guns without distraction (not teaching on video). I don't follow a script or checklist when I'm making video content because it slows down the content and throws me off my teaching role. When I make mistakes they stay in the video. If that bothers you, then don't watch.
@armenianesh818
@armenianesh818 7 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the two-hour video. It really flew by so fast, and it was really educational and enjoyable. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us.
@AndrewTa530
@AndrewTa530 7 ай бұрын
A lifetime of knowledge in these videos
@damongeisler265
@damongeisler265 7 ай бұрын
Watching your videos makes me want to buy a lot of tools and gauges.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 6 ай бұрын
Already bought better punches and some go no go gauges.
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963 7 ай бұрын
More long format vids please🙏🙏 I thoroughly enjoyed this Donnas camera work is top notch👌
@onna-day7047
@onna-day7047 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963 7 ай бұрын
@@onna-day7047 no thank you for the attention to detail in what's shown. You guys are making fantastic content and make a great team
@BestPlacetoBe996
@BestPlacetoBe996 6 ай бұрын
Chad and Donna, I have been watching your videos for a very long time now and this by far is the absolute BEST one that you guys have ever produced !!! C’mon Chad, Fast Forward ?? Are you kidding ?? I couldn’t even bring myself to pause this video for a minute in order to go and pee !!!! 🤣 Donna, your camera work is outstanding!! Keep up the GREAT work Mr. and Mrs. SOTAR !!!! We Love the long videos!! Chad , please don’t apologize to us for anything !! God Bless you both and Happy Holidays !
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind and encouraging words. I get a lot of complaints about my work and sometimes that creeps into what I create. May God bless you and your family my friend. Happy Thanksgiving as well.
@thelastlatchkeykid8466
@thelastlatchkeykid8466 5 ай бұрын
Another great video. Interesting and informative. After watching the majority of SOTAR’s content, it’s high time I appreciate whomever is behind the camera. It’s so good that the viewer doesn’t even think about it. So, to the pro videographer, thank you and well done!
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 5 ай бұрын
That's my wife. In my opinion, she is the star of the channel.
@thelastlatchkeykid8466
@thelastlatchkeykid8466 5 ай бұрын
@@SchooloftheAmericanRifle She’s excellent. Always knows where to go with the camera. Like it’s choreographed prior to shooting, but that seems unlikely with a 2 hr video. So she clearly knows your process and the platform. Again, she’s great!
@onna-day7047
@onna-day7047 5 ай бұрын
​@@thelastlatchkeykid8466 Thank you!!
@onna-day7047
@onna-day7047 5 ай бұрын
​@@SchooloftheAmericanRifleWe make a great team!
@knightmare2135
@knightmare2135 4 ай бұрын
This man is the best at what he does, not only does he do these very informative and in depth videos, he also teaches classes. Hes a great dude, like and subscribe!
@keres993
@keres993 7 ай бұрын
This video was exceptional. Thank you Instructor Chad & wife for producing this material. The list in the description is also insightful.
@Jeremy-io4hm
@Jeremy-io4hm 7 ай бұрын
I love these long format videos. I could watch them all day. Thanks so much! God bless you and your family.
@JG54206
@JG54206 7 ай бұрын
That bit about using a torque wrench on the handguard screws because one loosens as you tighten the opposite screw is absolutely true in terms of cars, motorcycles, small equipment like lawn mowers etc. I actually never even considered it when working on guns but I will now. Thanks for the awesome tip.
@bryansimms7499
@bryansimms7499 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks Chad and Donna for all the work you put into making it.
@mikebrown4433
@mikebrown4433 7 ай бұрын
My BRO carrier screws broke free as well. It was my first rifle.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you got it squared away.
@adamrodgers2377
@adamrodgers2377 7 ай бұрын
I really love watching you work on AR's , I have learned so much from your Videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. 🤙🏼
@trev1388
@trev1388 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing the long form progression of troubleshooting these for an agency. These being duty use make me scratch my head. You may have very well saved a life of someone in blue.
@Nottazippo
@Nottazippo 3 ай бұрын
I went to school tonight and I wish to thank you ! Outstanding informative video . I learned things I always wanted to know . One of the best learning videos I have seen .
@craigsmith450
@craigsmith450 7 ай бұрын
Brutal QC with this manufacturing.Haven’t watched such an informative video in ages. Thanks !!!!
@ericmckinley7985
@ericmckinley7985 7 ай бұрын
Damn, who would have ever foreseen that a rifle whose manufacturer uses a cartoonish biohazard symbol for a logo and whose name abbreviates literally to "bro" slopped together unprofessional parts for a sworn officer's rifle? Imagine that.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 7 ай бұрын
Prob all oath breakers
@mich5167
@mich5167 4 ай бұрын
If you think I’m going to sit here and watch a 2 hour sotar video, then you would be absolutely correct😂😂
@cpspot
@cpspot 6 ай бұрын
It's therapeutic to learn from a master. This guy just oozes competence. Thank you so much for doing this. Hats off to you and your wife.
@christo_reese
@christo_reese 7 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for the upload, Chad. 2 hours of techies and valuable knowledge
@ZeroTooL88
@ZeroTooL88 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, Chad! Your videos are always very informative. Your wife or son, whoever is the camera person is doing an amazing job! I wish you did have a fixed camera from above at your vice and your bullet trap.
@onna-day7047
@onna-day7047 7 ай бұрын
That's me running the camera. Thanks for the suggestion. 😊
@chamberddefense
@chamberddefense 7 ай бұрын
​@@onna-day7047you do a great job bith you and Chad..i want to get up there and take a class with Chad just for more knowledge.
@TheUnholyLordClownz
@TheUnholyLordClownz 7 ай бұрын
I love the longer more indepth stuff. I Especially love it when you gove guage values and exact reasons for why youre doing something, potential problematic reasons if it fails, ect. Beautiful work, Chad. Youre the reason i got so big into stidying the AR.
@sikdarknight6510
@sikdarknight6510 7 ай бұрын
I was going to watch this video passively while working on something else, but couldn't stop watching. Awesome channel, very educational! Keep up the great work and content.
@viniciusbergamo9230
@viniciusbergamo9230 7 ай бұрын
this kind of videos are amazing! i must confess that i watched in 1.5 speed but totaly worth it... always new things to learn!
@chrishesotian1654
@chrishesotian1654 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for everything chad! love the long form videos.
@cerebralfirearms
@cerebralfirearms 7 ай бұрын
This is my favorite channel ever. You make everything seem perfect and had me go back and do a lot to even my high end rifles. Now, my buddies give me their guns to fix all the time lmao. But mine have been FLAWLESS. thanks for all of this knowledge, now to get a bunch of gauges lol
@yogidumbear76
@yogidumbear76 7 ай бұрын
For a time, Black Rain Ordnance AR-15s were all that were available in my area. I am so glad I decided not to buy one just for a cool paint job, now that SAR has done two different videos where he found a number of manufacturing problems with them. Thank you for all of your hard work and the information you have provided.
@TheMakeReadyRanch
@TheMakeReadyRanch 7 ай бұрын
Hey Black Rain, maybe you could spend a little more time on QC and less time engraving BRO on every part.
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus 7 ай бұрын
No, please, don't tell them to stop engraving. I, for one, am relieved that there is a clear, bold, "KEEP AWAY" engraving on every one of their parts.
@ecleveland1
@ecleveland1 7 ай бұрын
But it’s Tactikooool and that’s the most important!
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus 7 ай бұрын
@@ecleveland1 I must disagree. Granted, taste is subjective, so I shall say *for me* something like a quad rail is "tacticool," even if the added bulk and weight probably lacks practical benefit; an MP5 is "tacticool," even though it is a very dated design compared to modern alternatives. These BRO rifles are not tacticool. They have a mall ninja vibe that just comes across as cheap and sophomoric.
@thegougler
@thegougler 7 ай бұрын
Really cool video. Do you think these rifles were purchased as MG's or do you think a local armorer preformed the modifications? I wish there was more MG content out there because it is always cool to see a breakdown of the firearm operation, maintenance, etc... (edit, I read the description. Ignore the question)
@EarthAltar
@EarthAltar 5 ай бұрын
Once again SOTAR proves why this channel is the best for this kind of info. That was amazing, Chad. Textbook, point by point breakdown of every part and it's potential for failure, and the remedy for each one. Thank you, sir. We are in your debt. Sorry it took so long to get to this one.
@IRishbuck58
@IRishbuck58 7 ай бұрын
Loved every minute of it. It just amazes me how you can remember to to check and gauge and be so thorough
@YoutubeLovesCowards
@YoutubeLovesCowards 7 ай бұрын
I would never give my LEO's B.R.O rifles. What were they thinking? There's so many better options that are in the same or similar price range. But I'd much rather them spend the extra 500 and get a quality rifle.
@oldscratch3535
@oldscratch3535 7 ай бұрын
Its probably a very small department with 2-3 officers. Which is even worse b/c its not that much money to equip 3 guys with good equipment. But in reality, they probably don't need rifles and damn sure don't need full auto ones.
@YoutubeLovesCowards
@YoutubeLovesCowards 7 ай бұрын
@@oldscratch3535 Agree 100%.
@wahttehfuk
@wahttehfuk 7 ай бұрын
You could spend 500 less and get a better rifle. These are way, way overpriced.
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus 7 ай бұрын
@@oldscratch3535 Put another way: Anyone who lacks the knowledge to avoid BRO as a "duty" rifle I don't trust to have sufficient training to carry a select-fire weapon into tense situations where innocent civilians may be present.
@tonyc223
@tonyc223 7 ай бұрын
@@doktorfaustus All I see with giving officers full auto is a empty mag and friendly,s being shot. No need for full auto. Good trigger, silencer and lots of range time.
@dennishines9996
@dennishines9996 7 ай бұрын
love your videos unlike anything else I've seen
@musician445
@musician445 6 ай бұрын
Just now finally getting time to watch this video. Great learning experience, thank you guys for taking the time to document it and share. Despite having been to a SOTAR class i'm always learning more from you guys.
@johnnym5564
@johnnym5564 7 ай бұрын
I watched the whole video and will save it for reference. Have been building for 3 years and this is great reference video. Also, your wife has is a great camera operator and have patience of a saint. Many thanks.
@BFVgnr
@BFVgnr 7 ай бұрын
I got a battle damage/rebuilt M4 from direct support in Iraq. They put the castle nut on backwards and didn't stake it. It jammed up at the clearing barrel coming back from a mission where we had no contact. They fixed it quickly and correctly, but I never did find who it was that screwed it up in the first place.
@themightiestofbooshes9443
@themightiestofbooshes9443 7 ай бұрын
Love these videos because it helps me diagnose problems with my first AR, which is a piston operated 6.5 Grendel. First problem I had was on the very second round. Failure to extract. Chamber had so many burrs and the extractor took a bite out of the rim! On STEEL CASE ammo! The RSO at the range oiled my rifle's chamber liberally for me and it started operating wonderfully.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 7 ай бұрын
You should never oil a chamber. It increases bolt thrust tremendously and the case doesn't have anything to purchase during obturation.
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus 7 ай бұрын
@@LRRPFco52 You are absolutely correct. Heavily oiled chamber is a big no-no. Just another example of a know-it-all at the gun range, admittedly trying to be helpful, but ultimately showing his ignorance.
@themightiestofbooshes9443
@themightiestofbooshes9443 7 ай бұрын
@@doktorfaustus Sorry, I'm a bit of a new shooter. How else could my failure to extract have been fixed? The burrs on the chamber took purchase on the steel cases and would have caused another failure to extract if I had continued. Thanks in advance.
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus 7 ай бұрын
@@themightiestofbooshes9443 a gunsmith could ream the chamber, with appropriate tools. I'm afraid there's not a safe & reliable "quick fix" for a chamber that bad.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
Chamber should be gauged thoroughly to see if it meets minimum standards, cast, cast measured (for oversize). If dimensions are safe then a flex hone and polish will usually fix the issues unless it's really bad.
@wbrennan2253
@wbrennan2253 7 ай бұрын
A long breakdown and autopsy? I believe the quote is " Don't threaten me with a good time."
@akmarksman
@akmarksman 7 ай бұрын
Thanks to your videos, I've been able to help my friends and family with their AR15s. My friend had a AR that would fire 1 round and failed to pick up the 2nd round. This was a newly built AR. We tried my BCG, it ran fine. We tried his BCG in my AR and it was causing the same issue. Contacted the manufacturer, got a RMA and sent it back. Got a replacement one, runs great. Wish I could afford to go to one of your classes, but I cant because of time and family. Learning about how you troubleshoot and you going over parts and how they work as a system helps a lot. Looking forward to more videos. 👍🏻
@TH-qf1en
@TH-qf1en 7 ай бұрын
Thank you big time for the quality content! I love the detail and thoroughness of your videos! Could you say who makes the gas block alignment tool you used? Thank you
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
I make and sell them on my website. I'll have more soon.
@billkampouris2286
@billkampouris2286 7 ай бұрын
Love these vids!
@SOLDTONORM
@SOLDTONORM 4 ай бұрын
40 years ago...that's when I wish I had seen this fantastic video!!!
@szyzzerz
@szyzzerz 5 ай бұрын
Wishing I had viewed this video before I attempted building my first AR. Now I am sitting here with it in pieces, checking every hole, spring, screw, washer, bolt, pins, etc. Thank you so much for the in depth workings of this platform...amazing stuff!
@kenabi
@kenabi 7 ай бұрын
if these are 'factory', BRO is.. eh. if the agency has an armorer and they handled these to put them (or allow them to wind up in) this condition, that armorer is lazy or meh.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
The Armorer is Black Rain Ordinance Trained.
@jstud999
@jstud999 7 ай бұрын
@@SchooloftheAmericanRiflewell that says it all than lol
@doktorfaustus
@doktorfaustus 7 ай бұрын
@@SchooloftheAmericanRifle Is that humor? Or are you serious?
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
​​@@doktorfaustusI'm not joking. The Agencies Armorer did not want me to get my hands on these guns to inspect them. Said there is nothing wrong with them or the other 4 units they have. He is B.R.O. trained. B.R.O. teaches Armorer's Classes.
@SouthValleyKnifeCo
@SouthValleyKnifeCo 7 ай бұрын
I'm still blown away at how bad these guns are. And I also wonder if the "armorer" who added the sprinco orange springs to the guns was just being lazy
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
Springs came that way from the manufacturer.
@baileyparadis1815
@baileyparadis1815 7 ай бұрын
​@@SchooloftheAmericanRifleThat speaks volumes to the engineering and qc process (or lack thereof) that these weapons had...
@unbreakableca
@unbreakableca 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video for those of us trying to understand the guts of these rifles. Love the tools and jigs you have for making quick work of measurements. Quickest screwdriver operator I've ever seen when you were doing the pistol grip!
@whyismyusernametaken...
@whyismyusernametaken... 7 ай бұрын
I came for the thumbnail, stayed for the education. Didn't think I'd watch the full thing but it was fascinating.
@danwilliams1132
@danwilliams1132 7 ай бұрын
Kinda shocking and concerning a duty rifle has this many issues.
@chrish.6934
@chrish.6934 5 ай бұрын
This channel is absolutely amazing! This is real teaching, showing, explaining things, i mean you canr help but to move with his pace. It makes what youre hearing next that much more interesting
@madcapmagician6018
@madcapmagician6018 6 ай бұрын
Love the long format with detailed explanations and showing us exactly how to do things right.
@Keithrrr
@Keithrrr 7 ай бұрын
Didn’t know some police departments have full auto weapons.
@baileyparadis1815
@baileyparadis1815 7 ай бұрын
It's usually the swat guys or other high speed types that get them
@briansmith2125
@briansmith2125 7 ай бұрын
Did some local agency "armorer" make changes to these guns, or did they come directly from the factory this screwed up?
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
The answer is not only in the video but it's in the description.
@user-vb3lf4lf2p
@user-vb3lf4lf2p 7 ай бұрын
Black rain is very subpar my man especially for the price
@briansmith2125
@briansmith2125 7 ай бұрын
@@user-vb3lf4lf2p quite clearly it's garbage. These guns didn't even pass minimum basic functional requirements like torquing the handguard screws. There are ZERO valid reasons for this.
@user-vb3lf4lf2p
@user-vb3lf4lf2p 7 ай бұрын
@@briansmith2125 yeah ive seen several from factory with parts just flying off. Like on the shelf not tightened to any spec relaly bad
@nitroxscott
@nitroxscott 7 ай бұрын
A 2 hour video that took me 2.5 hours to watch with all the rewinding I did. Excellent video.
@eddiexoc8430
@eddiexoc8430 4 ай бұрын
Seriously, thank you very much for your detailed narration. Many nuggets of golden information to be obtained from this video.
@altairibnlaahad9348
@altairibnlaahad9348 7 ай бұрын
It must be the libertarian in me. When I hear NFA, or LE/MIL only, I hear tyranny!
@christiankrejci9233
@christiankrejci9233 7 ай бұрын
Babe be quiet SOTAR uploaded
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle 7 ай бұрын
LOL
@bosundave121
@bosundave121 6 ай бұрын
STOP apologizing. Nice to see someone else work instead of me. Its calming. You would love all the German Wiha drivers and Wiha bits I have. Nothing better IMO.
@vikingsoftpaw
@vikingsoftpaw 7 ай бұрын
This is the first video i seen involving full auto inspections. It is nice to see the working differences involving 3rd hole guns.
@Trve_Kvlt
@Trve_Kvlt 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving me yet another gun company to avoid.
@Big_Hex
@Big_Hex 6 ай бұрын
This has to be one of the best educational videos I’ve seen this year. You do fantastic work Brother.
@AM-nn9sv
@AM-nn9sv 6 ай бұрын
That was nearly 2 hours of master class AR education. Thank you. I enjoyed it.
@In-Midnight-Clad
@In-Midnight-Clad 7 ай бұрын
I love this long-format content. Always happy to see a long video.
@ColoDano78
@ColoDano78 7 ай бұрын
Great video, super helpful to see a deep dive into how everything is supposed to work properly. Made me double check a few things on my current rifle!
@generalkaosthedestroyer3452
@generalkaosthedestroyer3452 7 ай бұрын
Great content. I wish more people were interested in learning this aspect of firearms, instead of just watching people shoot guns that they will never own. Thank you!
@internetuser1324
@internetuser1324 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for these uploads. I’m struggling to learn from a 71 year old gunsmith right now and i’m not complaining about that, but your videos are so refreshing after being lectured for an hour about how semi-auto firearms are less accurate than any other action and that 5.56 was designed by the army corps of engineers to wound and not kill because that means it takes 2-3 guys out of the fight opposed to one. Every session is painful but i’ll take free knowledge anywhere i can get it. Videos like yours seriously help me sift through and dispell the fudlore nonsense. Thanks again
@Alexanderofthe9th
@Alexanderofthe9th 6 ай бұрын
I love how scientific this all is. No brand bias or bashing going in, just a good faith fair assessment of the guts as you would any premium rifle. Thanks for the hard work uploading all this valuable information for us mere mortals to consume.
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