Black Rain Ordnance SPEC15 Machinegun Rebuild - Part 2/2

[@coltonowens2742]

Don't know if I've ever properly thanked you for all the info you put out for free, but thank you, know its greatly appreciated by me, and many others I'm sure. You're the man chad!

[@jasonmpd2946]

The fact BRO has the nerve to sell this stuff to be used in situations where life is in the balance says everything ill ever need to know about BRO.

[@Manco65]

Yep I've driven right past their shop several times without any hankering to drop in.

[@jake1021]

Local gun shop pushes their shit, is it just me or does something about them scream cheap and not in a good way. Might be the Skittles colors and "battle field" finish I think they offer that finish so if the paint job sucks they can claim it's a feature

[@christurner8255]

Sucky rifles bruh. You can tell. Straight crap. Should have BCM Colt DD Geissle or at least Smith and Wesson seems way better than those ugly turds

[@R.Stone281]

I used to follow them on social media. I stopped following when I found out their employees are min. wage workers and their product is subpar. Theyre ALWAYS hiring bc noone wants to work for next to nothing. I wouldnt buy their rifles, knowing its just flashy-looking, overpriced junk and they dont take care of their staff. Doubt the company will stand the test of time. I hope they see these comments and get their sht together.

[@DesertRat.45]

Ive had the same thoughts about PSA and well, nearly all the brand names. Seems " good customer service " means quality product? People have also equated price tags with quality. In the 90's, yes I'm old, I never heard of the AR problems on the market today.

[@otetechie]

It’s neat seeing some modern production machine guns we aren’t allowed to access. All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Just one hole different than the normie ar's. You know you can buy a stamp, and be "allowed access".

[@muddyhotdog4103]

Firearmism

[@yc9419]

​@@nobodynoone2500 Not for new production Machine guns. The stamp only works for "Transferrable" pre 1986 machine guns.

[@Greaner762]

@@yc9419yes however realistically a pre86 lower would have little to no difference compared to this, the majority of modern features are all in the upper with the exception of maybe the grip and stock

[@Moetown1986]

My local shop sells Black Rain and they're on the rack next to BCMs and DDs for around the same price. It blows my mind that people buy these.

[@Mikolt1911]

I was a Colt certified LE armorer back in the day. Your analysis of these rifles is off the charts. Anyone listening to your videos needs to follow what you say. You should teach the armorer class for the factory. FN, Colt or anyone else who manufactures M-16, M4 and AR pattern rifles.

[@rcdogmanduh4440]

New Ar owner that needs to understand everything I do in life! Excellent education for me. Retired Machinist as well, blast to my past watching test gauge usage and thread size explanation. Great work!

[@southernexposure6855]

Weller’s, Blanton’s and Sriracha. Everything you need to do quality gun smithing. Well done

[@element7us]

Amen 😂😂😂

[@thatroykid]

Words really cannot describe how grateful I am for your knowledge. Especially the amount that post up here on youtube for free. It's really amazing how in depth you go, and its greatly appreciated.

[@blackyzfr1]

Once again you have taken a problematic rifle and changed it into a reliable tool. Thank you for taking us along! Exceptional learning experience,I took notes.

[@oakwestplayer]

Appreciate the transparency while troubleshooting. most KZbinrs would’ve just worked all the kinks out, and uploaded the finished product.

[@danclas5983]

LGS in my area are carrying BRO and for the price they are you should be getting a lot better rifle. I steer clear of companies that push every color under the rainbow and then some rifles as a main selling feature. Thank you for these video Chad, they have sparked my interest in the AR platform and how everything works together so much. Still can't believe any agency was issuing these, but good on the Sheriff for making it right.

[@ericmckinley7985]

Did not expect a part 2- appreciate a part 2. Was just checking up on you last week after mentioning you to a friend and here you are.

[@SolFireYT]

I’ve seen a few black rain rifles new in a store with loose hand guards. It’s insane these rifles are like $1300-$2000 and they can’t even secure the handguard

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

I know you don't usually advocate for any particular brand, but SOLGW is usually a solid choice.

[@Isaac_5.56x45]

Repeal the NFA, GCA, Hughes ammendment, 4473, etc!!! Abolish the ATF!

[@ericmckinley7985]

Sounds nice. Won't happen. First person to rat you out for violating the NFA is a fellow range member.

[@Isaac_5.56x45]

@@BasedPatriot-USA exactly.

[@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251]

so your saying you thing anyone and everyone should be able to buy a full auto draco or a switched glock without any type of scrutiny? my god man, im about as pro 2A as they get, and i believe there are definitely smoothbrains out there that shou;d not have a fukn butter knife let alone a full auto pray and spray devise.

[@Isaac_5.56x45]

@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 Yes, all gun laws are infringements. If you support gun restrictions your not a 2A supporter, you would rather hand your freedom over to a corrupt government that hates you.

[@user-tn7hc4ww3j]

"Shall not be infringed". Several generations ago, my family was able to buy fully automatic firearms with cash and no paperwork from any Sears store in America. More guns = less crime.@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251

[@johngalt176]

Great follow up video but I'm really happy about your Weller. Good taste!

[@melissasdad]

Great video and information. We also thank Miss Donna Brasscatcher for her service. 🫣😊

[@onna-day7047]

You're welcome. I love getting to help Chad. 😊

[@scottp3287]

Full auto , Weller Antique 107 and Blantons . What's not to like 😊 Thanks for sharing

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

I'm too poor to afford the 107 and Blanton's. They were gifts from some very generous students. Good stuff.

[@ericmckinley7985]

"Hey man, got any Blanton's?" As every last liquor store worker considers suck-starting a shotgun.

[@johnpawly1849]

I reallly appreciate you putting out the procedures to make a gun reliable and safe I have learned so much from you sir. Especially about how to lube an AR thanks my guns run real smooth and quiet now

[@stevewhisperer6609]

It's great to see the latest video! After watching the previous video in this series, I did a basic once-over of the five BRO 5.56 ARs in my gun shop. One of the five has a non-functional forward assist. That's just a indication to me of more potential problems with their ARs down the road.

[@jonathanwick1265]

How's Black Rain Ordinance still in business? Using a power drill to tighten down hand guard bolts?

[@nobodynoone2500]

I've used clutched drills to install parts before after calibrating them, but it's not ideal for parts that need to be perfectly torqued, like on firearms, engines, or other precision machine.

[@PDYALL]

Greatly appreciate it and I ordered all new springco springs and spare gas rings and such for my ar.

[@davidmiller1938]

“A good bit of education” is the understatement of the year. You are the absolute best FA information provider on the net! What ammo were you using?

[@ekfinn]

My recent builds… A5 buffer from Forward Controls partnered with SOLGW, SOLGW bolt & carrier, BCM mk2 T2 buffer, Springco spring… feeling pretty good I chose wisely after watching this. Definitely think that Sheriff should go to a dead-air type suppressor.

[@JackedLobster]

Great follow-up video. I’ve been looking forward to some new content recently. I’m not sure if it was a different microphone than usual, but I must say the audio was rather funky. I’m not sure how to describe it but it sounded like the mic couldn’t decide what to pick up. I know mics get overwhelmed temporarily during and shortly after gunfire, but I’m talking about the rest of the time as well. Anyway, enjoyable content.

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

It's a new mic because people were complaining about the camera noise. I won't be using a mic anymore.

[@JackedLobster]

@@SchooloftheAmericanRifle Oh, dangit. I didn’t mean to be discouraging. Especially since the change was in an effort to improve quality. I’m sure that’s frustrating. Perhaps just changing the location of the new mic would help. In any event, all the crucial details of the video are great, so don’t weigh my peanut gallery comment too much! 😅

[@isaacward5162]

Off topic but how do I go about sending you a bolt carrier for you to autopsy? I have one of the blem Wilson combat bcg's that is practically unusable. You can keep it for whatever you want as I can't use it. Thanks for the awesome content!​@@SchooloftheAmericanRifle

[@davekreitzer4358]

Another great informative video , Thanks Chad ! 👌

[@malcolmpalm]

Awesome work, as always.

[@joelatkinson2080]

Thanks for all of your great videos!!!

[@LovesM855A1]

This was GREAT CONTENT so THANK YOU! I learned a lot about tuning some I knew a lot I didn’t…. You are very smart and Id bring you all my stuff if I was close to y’all.

[@Shackleford_Rusty]

Thanks for uploading part 2 good Tuesday night treat

[@AndyOamo]

Rain Man returns! Thank you for all of the information, it's saved me a lot of time and money over the years.

[@C_oprator89]

That feed ramp work is gigitty gigitty ggooood!!

[@dancarter7009]

Another great & informative video as always! Thank you & the camera lady once again! Also looking forward to the PSA exams when time permits 🙂

[@waynn_xap]

Really enjoy your videos. Great info and detail.

[@delta_papa]

Always educational. Excellent choices in bourbon as well.

[@sikdarknight6510]

Another awesome video! I love the amount of knowledge you display and the education I get from watching these videos. I can't wait to watch the next one!

[@tedisabum]

Thank you so much for the great content. Always educational. It’s really nice to see you back.

[@bob_mosavo]

It's always wonderful to see a master at work 🤩 Thanks 👍

[@Theloss52]

I don't like the coiled roll pins. The ones I got at least were too tight, and would not compress well enough.

[@adamrodgers2377]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise on the AR/M4 Rifle with us..

[@johngaltman]

Thank you for showing that you actually have to go through multiple iterations of how to set up the firearm for it to work... So many people just want to show how everything works on their "first attempt"... Most of the things you figure out in life are ways not to do things before you figure out how to actually get them done correctly...

[@nobodynoone2500]

Yeah, i see the same with lots of stuff here on youtube. If you don't already know enough to know better, changing jets on a carb 6 times seems like no big deal until you actually do it and it takes all farkin day.

[@mealteam6.1]

Granted it is easy for those of us that know how to, but remember back before you learned and how daunting it was. 99.999999% of people do not understand how guns work. So when they soend 1500 to 2500 dollars in one, its had better work perfectly. If it doesnt then its a piece of shjt. Its really that simple. Could you and i make a vlack rain work similar to an LMT? sure, but it will never last as long or be as reliable. Imagine buying a new car and you gotta replace the head on the first day.

[@jesscobb2279]

It's been a fantastic learning experience. Thanks 4 taking the time to film and show us inexperienced guys some nice fixes and why. God Bless.

[@Sattyboy49905]

“Basic to improved” said no LaRue owner ever.

[@denbo74]

I’m surprised a department be messing with a newer small company like this? You would think for serious duty gun they would hit up the established and known commodities ….BCM, SOLGW, SIONICS, even COLT

[@musician445]

I'm all about redemption stories. Fixing the problem feels better to me than simply replacing entirely.

[@ts440s]

Great content thanks for all you do now move to Florida so I can come to class more than once.😊

[@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251]

ever since the first vid id been wondering why they went with B.R.O.? honestly iv never heard a single good thing about theyre rifles, the only one ive ever worked on was so out of spec it came from the dealer NIB with a wobble wedge. and for some reason a cmc drop in trigger i thought this was kinda odd and soon i found out why, i couldnt get a milspec fcg to cycle or even fit properly , the hammer barely let the bolt by, tried a spikes fcg, a bcm, and a rra 2 stage, tried swapping different bolts colt, lantac, bcm,, and in the end i still had to ''polish'' (and i use this term loosely) the surface of hammer that makes contact with the bolt on the CMC trigger so much just to get it to run right that i didnt feel comfortable giving my buddy his rifle back and ended up just giving him one of my old spikes lowers and taking the hit, contacted BRO and the pretty much told me it was my fault and blew me off.....id literally rather run a f-ing anderson (sorry for the rant but i needed to vent🤣🤬) and as always thanks for uploading, your vids are priceless, and the best on the platform.

[@ZSC001]

LE agencies will buy the damndest things. My last agency bought a pile of PSA’s to “replace” the 1033 program M16a1’s. Absolutely HOT GARBAGE rifles. Very short rifle courses were destroying those guns to the point I didn’t want to issue out any of them. And don’t get me started on the Veritas 9mm PCC’s to replace the MP5-40’s 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jake1021]

​@@ZSC001 gotta spend that money so next years budget doesn't go down!!!!

[@seanwhite304]

Awesome video bro . A lot of good info in here . Especially with Buffer and spring weight combo. Arfcom would of said its junk if it cannot work with A5H2 and Green Spring. That's why I do not do gun forums. Hope you had happy holidays and awesome video

[@ryandanion6346]

Would love to have seen a Geissele super 42 spring and buffer as an option. Granted they are on the pricey side and the customer/Leo is on a set budget but you get a lot of bang for your buck with the Geissele. The springco springs are great I have a few rifles set up with them but I still prefer the super 42 buffer and spring way more for reliability and quick and easy buffer weight adjustments without changing the buffer itself just adding or subtracting internal weights. I’m not going to pretend I know more than you or anyone here so I’m sure everything was chosen for specific reasons. Great video and great content this is by far one of my favorite channels on yt, thank you for all you do.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Agreed. I run one and like it. Was curious if Chad had an opinion on the design. A few guys I know don't like em, but they have a 'mil-spec or nothin' attitude.

[@silverbulletstackin1752]

The super 42 system is great IF you are refusing to deviate from the standard carbine buffer tube. I have one on an 11.5 that i wanted to keep shorter as a cqb gun. However A5 systems run inherently better because they are closer to the original design of the gun and allow a wider operational envelope but at the cost of adding about an inch overall to the firearm. So really as with most things it comes down to purpose and perspective

[@rcairnut]

great video again! thank you for these diag videos, I learn more every time

[@deebee3174]

I forgot about BRO a decade ago. Didn’t even know they were still in business.

[@HaroldTheSloth]

I find it funny that the fix for these BRO guns was to basically rebuild the guns. I can't believe they get away with selling this crap to LEO's who may have to depend on them.

[@Dmoore37]

Really awesome video!

[@richardreed8091]

Blanton's,107 and ar's ,3 of my favorite things in life .🎉 Another great video,I learn a ton from your videos,I'm about to buy my first ar and think im gonna buy the Zion.I hope thats gonna be a good choice .

[@snakeman48]

Good informative video Chad. Never was impressed by Black Rain guns. There's much better options on the market in their price range.

[@blueeyeddevil1]

Great stuff, once again. Thanks.

[@Alop777]

I've seen and read enough to know better than to trust Black Rain Ornaments (deliberate typo). Definitely would go with the Springco springs. Thanks for the very informative video.

[@GunRoastShorts]

This is beyond what I've seen from this brand.

[@BreezyBeary]

I bought a BRO AR from a guy for $500. Meh, sold it pretty quick. It was ok I guess, but ill stick with BCM, Geisselle, SOLGW, BCM from now on. Also any wedgelock handguard just rocks.

[@christinepearson5788]

Very interested in if the A5 system was customers choice or if we can get a video of pluses and minuses of the Vltor A5 system.

[@welderdude1]

They're amazing for shortys and cans.

[@Mr_Clean]

Go in the search bar and put in Brownells solgw vltor a5 system

[@tfwwhennofitlitgf3300]

AR-15 of Theseus

[@ericmckinley7985]

Theseus says you can change every part except the lower receiver and it's the same gun.

[@nobodynoone2500]

@@ericmckinley7985 No, thats just the AFTheseus.

[@williamtreadway9574]

Nice Weller and Blantons!

[@steveninaz9576]

Thank you Sir.

[@kylejohnson1308]

I was looking at an AR from this company at my local gun shop about 2 years ago. Thankfully I decided to pass on it. Lol

[@MichigunDad]

Thank you so much for this video! I know you had replied to my original comment on the first part of this series and hopefully you'll see this comment as well! My dad bought me and him both a BRO spec15 for our first ar15s and I haven't even put 1k rounds thru it and after seeing this I'm most likely going to have a professional like yourself look it over before shooting it anymore!

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

There are not many gunsmiths that will do a better job than BRO has already done. Many gunsmiths will make things worse if they don't have the right tools. You would be shocked to hear a conversation between me and most gunsmiths. Many gunsmiths will claim to know the AR well and happily take your money to do a terrible job. Be very careful on who you select.

[@oklahomahank2378]

I took the armorer’s course at Black Rain. It was an excellent course. We got a factory tour but signed a non disclosure agreement so I won’t say anything about that. I have not purchased a Black Rain. I do think a buyer of any AR, new or used, should break it down and inspect every part, especially the gas system, pins, and springs. An armorer’s course is a good idea for any AR owner. I am not mechanical and knew little about the functioning of ARs before the class.

[@MonsterChuck]

@@oklahomahank2378unfortunately BRO knows little about ARs too. The blind leading the blind. If you really want a good armorers course, take one with SOTAR or SOLGW.

[@charlesgillette2925]

Thank You for this.

[@MyCCW]

Awww man, those have the third pin fun switch.

[@s1urry381]

Can you imagine working for an "agency", and this is what they are using. What kind of budget are you working with?

[@heisman01]

Awesome videos, glad to see you posting again! Also who ever picked this system out for their agency needs to be fired and bullied online.

[@jaimeortega4940]

Good job!

[@welderdude1]

I run SpringCo springs in most of my rifles.

[@JG54206]

How do they use a power tool to tighten that barrel nut? Do they have an Uber deep socket? I’m also curious about replacing the bolts in barrels that already have some wear on them. Is headspacing not required?

[@adamdyment9732]

In general, do you prefer to adjust spring, or buffer weight first?

[@everythingphil9376]

Will you ever do a physical on a JP Enterprises BCG and bolt? When I shop around for a new barrel, many manufacturers list them as the bolt they use to headspace.

[@jake1021]

JP is an og used to be they built all kinds of shit for name brands, dunno if that's still the case or not.

[@BreezyBeary]

Curious if you use SOLGW for most of your builds @SchooloftheAmericanRifle. I absolutely love their muzzle brakes, I use them on every single build I own. They modified flash hider/brake they have in my opinion beats the surefire and the QD portion is just great for my suppressors. Havent used any other parts yet from them but thinking heavily of using them in future builds.

[@angelmoreno5963]

Do you recommend that pivotlock..? How the suction on it..? Or just get a small bench vise.?

[@mylesrickbeil1493]

When tuning a rifle like this, is there a style of magazine that you found is a good test? If it runs this it'll run anything? USGI, Magpul, Lancer, 10rd, 20rd, 30rd, ect?

[@BearMeat4Dinner]

How did you guys end up fixing the loose screws? Lock tight? Thanks!

[@n3qdz]

Great video series. My question is this when you get the other rifles, do to keep the gas tubes the same and enlarge the barrel port? Or, will you change the opening on the gas tube. My way of thinking, and I believe I can be super wrong, but making all the gas ports the same will aid in consistency between each example. I could be and can be totally wrong in my thinking. What are your thoughts? Again wonderful content and, you have spent my money on gauges and tools and have taken my builds and knowledge far beyond thank you sir!

[@ericmckinley7985]

Enlarging the port size requires drilling as opposed to just swapping components. Same result but with far less PITA.

[@paulcartmel1373]

I’d love to take one of your classes and get the gauge setup you have.

[@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963]

Im running a sprinco green with vltor a5h3 on an 11.5 with a ballistic advantage government barrel. I wanna say ejection is 4oclock and reliable bolt lock etc. I debated an a5h4 but wasnt sure if thats dumb

[@markmanning2921]

My only problem with this is that a sheriffs department is NOT a MILITARY organization, they have ZERO business owning weapons of this nature, specially not when the natuiona average hit rate for intended targets for police across this nation is between SIX and EIGHTEEN percent. I.E. they hit an unintended target 99.99999999999999% of the time.

[@alnov91]

❤❤great video! Your hands are getting rough! Use Hand cream daily and for goodness sake wear gloves more often brother.

[@onna-day7047]

His hands are fine. 😉

[@alnov91]

@@onna-day7047 said no female ever!

[@mylesrickbeil1493]

Another question, When testing buffer and spring combos does a lighter spring/heavier buffer perform differently than stronger spring/ lighter buffer? Or if it cycles it cycles?

[@cassidybronson6891]

Would you advise that before a department makes a choice, to consult with you beforehand?

[@yonotmyname]

On the M89 hand guard. If your upper does not have a hole for the anti-rotation pin do you think it's worth it to have an armor drill your upper for it.

[@m4tol]

Incredible wealth of information. Thank you.

[@gunhappyie]

Im looking to get on of those Snail traps too :)

[@krtm530]

noice noice!

[@marshalllapenta7656]

Question? What about a dual spring? Or even a spring made out of a heavier material?

[@scdave100]

Good video!! Thanks

[@nobodynoone2500]

Any opinion on the twisted G springs? (say that 5 times fast)

[@mikes8948]

Was it just my old eyes, or was the rear of the follower tilted downward at the rear when it failed to cycle? If it was, did that contribute to the failure , or was it just the buffer weight/spring combination? Sorry, I'm easily confused...

[@frank03s]

What's the hot sauce used for? Is brand important?

[@stephenison350]

You’re a good teacher 0:37

[@jondavidmcnabb]

I knew it was a legit video when I saw the bottle of Blanton's in the background.

[@eckrph]

I am still trying to figure out what is that bottle of Sirachia and Bourbon doing on your bench....?

[@louismorin8753]

18:28 more like a Brass Rain for Donna 😆

[@TheLesporter]

Have you seen David Tubbs testing (videos) on buffer springs? They are very educational and factual with different comparisons. They are an ar-15 life changer. I have two of them. Your videos are wonderful and very educational, thanks.