2-Gun With New US Army Weapons: SIG Spear and M17

[@draconus56]

Ian needs to be a unlockble character in a game that explains every gun you pick up.

[@AshleyPomeroy]

The game would have the most bizarre line-up of weapons - the shotgun would be a single-shot model with an Alofs adapter and the SMG would be a French folding model.

[@FishFind3000]

Luty…

[@lgbtqisahategroup9781]

Hell no. I don’t wanna have to hear “MoRe mOdErn aR15” everytime i pick up an AK.

[@bombomos]

And says random French facts

[@Chaosrain112]

@@AshleyPomeroy WHERE are all of the new games with wacky weird shit like this. I would LOVE a game with an Alofs-modded shotgun or a Hotchkiss Portative.

[@shaunn7778]

All moustache, no sleeves.

[@MosoKaiser]

All business, all the time.

[@hamigakisan7094]

You think if he shaves he’ll have mustache tan lines?

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

It's Arizona! Nice dry heat, for now. Soon our monsoon kicks in and it'll put that 90/90 to shame. 115°f (46c) temperature with a 65° (19c) dew point and 50%+ humidity. Ian lives in southern Arizona so it's a bit cooler than around me. We can top out 120f or 49c, so he'd be a few degrees lower than here. Plus, Ian is a ham on camera. He's a riot to watch at times!

[@Bauzymedia]

High speed low drag

[@jacktehgamer1]

Very French Longue indeed

[@JackManiaky]

I just love how Ian's "Modern" US Army loadout is just Desert Storm kit.

[@richardlooch2109]

@@bahshas cool.

[@insertnamehere4341]

@@bahshas very cool

[@camerondepalma3233]

@@bahshas o Po

[@pliskenx51mm83]

Desert Storm Kit with modern firearms

[@LudditePower]

He did it all for the cookie.

[@sloth7ds]

I see Ian brought tickets for the GUN SHOW 💪💪

[@vylvylvyl8532]

Out there doing a 2-gun with four guns.

[@El-Burrito]

@@Stevie-J suns out tums out

[@Shootsmith]

Sort of.

[@KenworthW900HG]

*bought

[@notNajimi]

he doesn’t need tickets, he’s the whole expo

[@MurryRothbeard]

“It would have been better if I was a better pistol shot”. We have all been there. LOL The rest of us just don’t have to show it on their super huge YT channel. LOL Good on you Ian. You always keep it real.

[@kevmoful]

My 12 year old daughter is a better pistol shooter than me 25 yards and beyond . True story , I pretend not to be embarrassed by it .

[@richardelliott9511]

@@kevmoful that embarrassment is easily glossed over by Daddy's pride in his awesome daughter! Been there!

[@HalfWarrior]

@@kevmoful Well, you’re not alone; my son is a better shot than me; I think it paid off to begin his shooting at 4 years old; he’s now 32 though.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

wow the sig p320/m17 is garbage with those malfunctions. army should have chosen the m&p 2.0

[@jgjgjg739]

@@cagneybillingsley2165 he said it was a new gun so maybe it just needed to be broken in(could also be the ammo).

[@tacticalultimatum]

“What do you normally wear to the range?” “A flak vest” “And??” “……and….?”

[@RustyDroid]

"And these SICK PYTHONS"

[@videoarchiveseries4365]

UHMHM ITZ ""FLAK""

[@tacticalultimatum]

@@videoarchiveseries4365 LOLLL dudes wearing a vest made from a grain apparently. Didn’t even notice until now

[@nobodynoone2500]

Fresh white Reeboks, kickin your ass! yeah google image that, i dare you

[@Payne427]

Like I've said before, Ian puts a new meaning to "I love my job". Love the channel. Keep doing what you're doing!

[@rollastudent]

“Best job I ever had”

[@Trumplican]

who wouldnt love that job lol

[@TechandTools1]

For real, he's genuine and super knowledgeable. plus gives great information and tons of history, he's definitely "the gun guy"

[@Payne427]

@@TechandTools1 that's why we call him "Gun Jesus"

[@deedeemenzo]

@@Trumplican che non possa

[@fredrikhultman557]

Ian "sun's out, guns out" McCollum.

[@windwalker5765]

No lie that being the Spear that's been on many YT channels makes it desirable to a certain kind of collector...

[@MenwithHill]

Needs its own silver play button stamp on the receiver.

[@mattfleming86]

I'd love that slutty gat. However i'm not willing to part with a kidney or pick up reloading a weird caliber. Still cool as heck.

[@MisterW0lfe]

@@MenwithHill I think that rifle's view count might have earned it a Gold one already

[@zabintasrik4488]

In a hundred years, if the rifle survives, it'll become a legendary item.

[@pliskenx51mm83]

It would go from about the current Sig Sauer Msrp of $7k to about $18k for just being all over KZbin!

[@peterprovenzano9039]

I’m loving the rifle and pistol from the 2020s and the holster and body armor from the 1990s

[@caseysmith544]

Actually, that Armor was used until 2003 so first 2 years of the Iraq and Afghanistan enduring freedom in act one.

[@randomboy8620]

Well 90s military gear is very good to look at.

[@michaelxdrift]

Fashion statement

[@JAB6322]

Ian rocking that chocolate chip camo vest and PASGT helmet. Outdated but epic

[@ryankozarich6968]

Military vintage as it were

[@nabilbudiman271]

it might be outdated, but to me it still aesthethic as hell especially with the Woodland or the Choco Chip camo

[@danscott3880]

I rocked this camo in Desert Storm. Hooahh

[@senkodan]

fashion is cyclic

[@leef8433]

@@danscott3880 I saw a vest cover of that color at a thrift store once, same day I found an original Vietnam era uniform.

[@Soravia]

Slide not going full battery is caused by the recoil rod spring not pretensioned at full extension. No matter how strong the spring is, if the tension is not there at full extension, it will not help seat into full battery, only relying on the momentum of the slide, which is not enough to overcome all the friction in the gun, and ammo against the ramp. Same issue was on Mossberg MC1sc, simply swapping to a better (same strength) pretensioned aftermarket slide spring solved it 100%.

[@du686]

bro is the gun governess

[@joemontgomery6658]

Is that a common issue with p320s?

[@will267]

I suspect it's common, had the same malfunctions with my issued M17 out of the box. They replaced the recoil spring, but I changed units before I could see if that fixed it.

[@Soravia]

@@joemontgomery6658 it can be with ANY gun? Many cheap Glock springs kits, Mossberg MC1sc initialproduction, etc. have that issue.

[@MBDieselFreak]

Interesting, I've not had a single malfunction through thousands of rounds on my SP2022. I'm unsure what significant changes sig made to the design to have this issue with the P320's. I'm wondering if too thick of a wire gauge size was used for the spring.

[@cvytnioy56dvfuj4g7]

Enjoy the honesty on your ability, no glossing over or edits. Great respect for your content Ian.

[@lol224455]

Praise worthy, for $70!The only issue was the round gasket ring seal between the CO2 and needle kzbin.infoUgkxnX9wE_Q8zvF75Y5iWzTU3Q4FlrtyGApQ . Withered away, and I'm having a tough time finding a replacement.Gun still works perfectly, but needs a new gasket. Can someone please say where to find the gasket replacement?

[@alasiadarthe001actual9]

I love the bare arms and way too big flak vest. It’s so tactical try hard it’s perfect.

[@the51project]

A gun so heavy, even shirts are removed to save weight.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

I mean, I'd still take the Spear over a FN FAL...

[@skm1091]

@@LazyLifeIFreak The Fal is actually 2 pounds lighter than this, fully loaded.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

@@skm1091 You blind? I said I'd still take the Spear over the Fal, I know its heavier and Id still take it.

[@the51project]

@@LazyLifeIFreak Eyeglasses removed to save weight.

[@RedXlV]

@@LazyLifeIFreak I'd take the FAL, personally.

[@lolatu4402]

Damn! Ian you gone need a special permit for those two guns! And I'm not talking about rifles.

[@jakerogers6562]

My p365xl was having the same malfunctions, about one or two per mag. About a hour of hand fitting and polishing later and it runs 100%. I also had to do the same thing to my friends as they are both in the same serial number range with the same issues. Jake

[@HughStLeger]

Love the narration over the 2gun really lends to your actually thoughts

[@melvinsuter984]

Wish there were matches like this around here. Looks hella fun

[@tobiasGR3Y]

Green ACH, Chocolate Chip, no sleeves, moustsche, hater-blockers and a well traveled rifle? #DesertStormWave Oh yeah, and cannot wait to get my hands one of those Spears.

[@eyeamstrongest]

thats a pasgt bro, cant get more 90s than that

[@AndrewAMartin]

@@eyeamstrongest The only thing missing is the chocolate chip helmet cover. I think Sportsman's Guide has 3 packs for cheap...

[@soulless6030]

Love the color on the rifle. It reminds me of the PlayStation 2 "gold" controllers

[@16apec]

It seemed like Ian had a bit of tire melt onto his can on the first stage. I hope widespread supressed rifle adoption will help improve the supressor cover market. I haven't been a big fan of the ones I've tried

[@sir_vix]

I was wondering where that rubber burn on came from in the break down video. Nice spot.

[@filtonkingswood]

What a fun course of fire. Ive shot a few club shoots in the USA and each and every one was a real treat. Always a warm welcome for Brit shooters.

[@chrisgabbert658]

It’s fun to watch lan doing these matches it reminds me that I’m in trouble shape.

[@romgl4513]

Remember, guys, He sweated for our entertainment! And a measure of empirical testing. Amen. So nice to see, despite being the new undisputed encyclopedia of guns, Ian puts himself on the line and humbly admits to his shortcomings on the range. This only makes for more awesome. I envy the people that share the competitions with him, something to tell the grandson one day.

[@axtondragunov1784]

Ian not only shoots guns but has some guns he looks like a a mercenary in an old action movie

[@Aikibiker1]

Ian can do pretty well with a 115 year old pistol with sights that are vestigial at best. With a modern pistol with very good sights, not so much. And yes wearing armor in the desert really sucks, that is why I invested in plate carriers. Props for wearing your helmet, I never wore mine even when being shot at.

[@murphy7801]

Yeah but probably a 115 year old french pistol so that makes all the difference

[@kingofwishfulthinking2490]

Man, helmets are not that bad.

[@leesamuel100]

Surprising how many malfunctions that pistol was having. Did not inspire confidence.

[@macoppy6571]

The real indictment came when Ian described the M17 as "basically, new out-of-the-box."

[@kabloosh699]

I've found the 320 often needs a break in period. Once you run it through its paces its perfectly fine. I also recently bought some really crappy ammo. There is always crappy ammo out there.

[@stephen9564]

@@kabloosh699 military pistols should just be able to eat anything

[@elmerjfapp5730]

@@macoppy6571 I heard 3 or 4 years ago the m17 was going to be phased in as the marine corps standard sidearm but knowing how certain weapons are pushed for bias reasons and certain budget projections they may have cranked out the next in line failure. The M27IAR seems promising however despite the lack if 200 round boxes

[@yangcheng-jyun8542]

@@stephen9564 That's not true, military pistols should just be able to eat any "military grade ammo". Civilian cheap cartridge can really be worse than military cartridge.

[@adam-k]

It all comes down to the military issue ammunition. Whether it is really that much better than 7.62 NATO and whether US will ever go against near peer enemies.

[@Jakezillagfw]

"It's better to be the warrior in the garden, than a gardener in the war." It sounds like what the US is going for.

[@My-Name-Isnt-Important]

Well, from the war in Ukraine, Russia clearly isn't much of a concern. China hasn't really done much with body armor, they mainly focus on armoured vehicles, aircraft, and naval vessels. Their infantry are pretty basic, with the only really modern innovation is their rifle, which uses a 5.8x42mm cartridge. Other than those two, there really isn't an actual near peer nation that the US would ever face. Iran is nowhere close to the US in military strength or capability.

[@62jape]

I feel like an upgraded 7.62 nato and an improved ar-10 would accomplish everything they were looking for with this.

[@IchlasulAmmal]

@@62jape the 6.8x51 is basically an improved battle rifle round comparable to 7.62x51 , and the xm5/spear is basically an improved ar-10. So there you have it. at the end the army is doing right

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@My-Name-Isnt-Important China is currently acquiring a crap ton of Lv III ballistic armor. 5.56x45mm won't defeat it reliably without resorting to AP ammo, while 6.8x51mm can penetrate it without AP.

[@keenanmcbreen7073]

Super cool that this one rifle is getting the rounds with so many toobers.

[@MrChrisStarr]

The idea of having one round for training, and another for combat still seems a little 'odd' for you infantry main small arm. I would hope some training would be done with the full fat round. Opportunities for a great whoopsies from QMs!

[@lchris2703]

Seems like this "training" round is pretty pointless. When I was still in the Army, the axiom was that you trained like you would fight in war. Unless the training round matches the ballistics and recoil, your riflemen won't be properly trained to handle the actual combat round. Even with training rounds on the Bradley. they may have not had the same punch, they ballistically would mirror actual combat rounds.

[@angelsfallfirst7348]

Yeah, they say that the use of training ammunition which was lower powered than their combat ammunition was a major contributing factor to the events which took place during the Newhall Incident.

[@spiritof7624]

@@lchris2703 they did this with the norma mmg as well it is a cost thing the bullet is weighted to give similar performance to the actual round but not cost as much. Idk if it is a sound idea but I can see the reasoning behind it.

[@thomasstevenhebert]

@@lchris2703 it’s a range issue. Outside of the major training installations the impact zone won’t be large enough. There are plenty of ranges that you can’t shoot 855a1 on, because the impact range isn’t large enough but 855 is perfectly fine.

[@jarink1]

So much for the whole "Train as you fight, fight as you train" thing.

[@enraikow6109]

Yo, ian mc-fucken-collum is absolutely JACKED

[@jeremiahcollins6777]

That's a lot of malfunctions with that Sig.

[@frajecz]

That's what I was thinking. I'd be curious to hear more about that.

[@brightpri6692]

Probobly a lemon

[@American-Templar]

Petition to make Ian an unlockable character in the upcoming Modern Warfare

[@narkosfera1421]

I always fought it's rather easy to shoot a more or less steady target. Then I went to a seminar and we had the luck to shoot with a hunting rifle on animals projected on a wall through a beamer with a laser system (somewhat like lasertag) freehanded and the distance was around 3-5 meters I think. Alot of fun, but damn it is hard to get a shot in the chest (in german you would call that a "blattschuss") on a boar or stag. Since then I have even more respect for hunters or people in the military. Together with the weight lifting and heat, this looks really exhausting.

[@bnizzle8500]

Ian looking like a yoked up desert storm vet!

[@bidenhasdementia8657]

I feel like the new sig battle rifle is a step backwards. The move has consistently been towards lighter more ergonomic rifles, which the sig is not.

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

The US military is lowering physical fitness requirements while simultaneously making its newest battle rifle heavier and with greater recoil - yep - sounds about right.

[@bidenhasdementia8657]

@@Christoph-sd3zi at least they support the LGBTQIAPVS+ community and understand racism is a bigger threat than Islam extremism

[@edc.7697]

Congratulations, the thumbnail won youtube today.

[@jonnytestnj2668]

The M17 generally requires a break in period. They come pretty tight out of the box and need to loosen up a little bit

[@collateral9159]

thats facts. I had the joy of being the first class in AIT to get them and we got to shoot 1000 rounds over a week period

[@jonnytestnj2668]

@@collateral9159 most P320 models require it. My M17 had a bit of a sluggish cycle during the first 2-250 rounds but I never had to force it into battery like this. Running it out of the box in a match is ill advised

[@dfdfdfdfdfdf838]

My M18 was fine right out the box 200 rounds plus that weird. Put some ballistol underneath slide and just ran it. I then shot like 500+ rounds before cleaning it

[@SoccerVJ2011]

M17 and M18 are among the best looking pistols in my opinion

[@tiortedrootsky]

I wish somebody would go through a match like this with the proper full power ammo. I bet the impression wouldnt be so positive.

[@IG10705]

That's exactly what I want I to see so I can judge for myself if it's any good and having the ammo to shoot ballistic gel blocks so we can see the damage it does while it passes through.

[@CountSpartula]

Perhaps a go with the proper ammo would be an experiment worth doing? See if the recoil and accuracy holds up still with that insane pressure cartridge.

[@Iwillfigureoutanamelater]

The military isn’t allowing that out into the wild. Only lower pressure hunting and training ammo.

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@Iwillfigureoutanamelater Give it to a reloader, and you could match the military performance pretty easily. And again, the hunting ammo is only marginally lower pressure than the military stuff.

[@kameronjones7139]

@@ostiariusalpha unless you got some of the same casing as the army does then that isn't going to end well for you

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@kameronjones7139 The hunting ammo is exactly the same case as the one the military ammo uses. No difference whatsoever.

[@kameronjones7139]

@@ostiariusalpha that statement alone show you haven't seen the military case by all means look it up and tell me they are the same I bet you didn't even watch the last video all the way through because he show the difference

[@VashGames]

The brotherhood of the travelling (SIG) Spear.

[@MythicMagus]

The most interesting thing to me is the noise difference between the pistol and rifle. That suppressor is really doing it's job well.

[@tisFrancesfault]

Always ignore sound in a video as it will never transfer the effect. Microphones, even the higher end ones fail to capture the sound. Sound suppression is really taking only felt first hand.

[@jps226]

I love you you're not shy about mentioning you're not the greatest pistol shooter. Way better than I could manage on any of this, but shows that it's all about getting out there and doing it, not having to be perfect.

[@michaelwhite9199]

I’ve never seen a three tier falling plate rack. Very interesting.

[@j.r.6271]

I think it is interesting that, for all the 'progress' of small arms cartridges, we are basically going to field a short barrel suped up version of the 7x57 Mauser. We changed it to .30, we scaled it down, we copied its ballistics with the 7mm-08 which we then ignored, we jumped to a small lightweight high velocity cartridge, chopped the balls off of it with short stubby barrels and carbine gas systems, and then came full circle to a .27 caliber bullet of medium weight moving at medium speeds, a not to far cry from the slightly longer 7x57 with easily copied ballistics if you throw a medium weight .28 caliber spitzer on top, although granted from a short barrel, and it only took 130 some odd years to circle back. Even if we start from .308 Win, did it really take 70 years to accept that necking the case down to .26-.28 caliber was a good idea? Talk about a slow moving machine.

[@joshshepherd5660]

It's interesting, the issue with the slide you are having looks similar to what I have found for myself with my glock 19x...i tend to get my grip juuuuuust a bit too high/support hand pushes in too much sometimes and it induces a failure...in my case I'm accidentally engaging the slide lock. Yours looks like your glove just contacts the slide and just slows it down a bit. Easy fixes for both, more practice!

[@Spoofff]

Speaking from experience, the need to whack the M17 went away after about 200-300 rounds for me.

[@thekidde5495]

Ian you should totally try out the Wilson combat grip module for the M17. Completely changed the ergonomics of the weapon for the better in my case.

[@peterslaby9782]

At some point Ian will manage to run a 2-gun within a G11 and it will be glorious.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Pretty decent run sir, sad to see the function issues with the Pistol. Gotta remember as you said, the ammo being used is the "training" ammo and not the full/ high-power cartridges for active duty/ combat use, so the recoil is going to be softer. I'd like to see how sustainable it can be with the combat ammo in conjunction to the weight and lessened carrying capacity. Still not sold on this system or the caliber.

[@hernandojimenez5102]

Very professional and interesting review 👏

[@abbleshawce]

ian i know its a lot of work to film what you love but please keep going. youve never changed. and the rest of this media is getting unbearable. luv u

[@tsogid]

I know, right? It's basically as bigger the channel gets the more "idiocratic" it gets. Except Forgotten Weapons.

[@wedgeantilles1498]

Awesome video. Big thanks to Ian and everyone involved! I've always been interested in 2 gun and 3 gun events, but even a cheap setup is a bit expensive so, unfortunately, I've never participated.

[@WC3fanatic997]

Glad you're keeping track of your Marksmanship as well as your piloting skills, Wedge.

[@davidchristensen2970]

That tire you were lugging around looked pretty nice.

[@crominion6045]

Love the 🍪 camo. One of my favorite patterns of all time. 👍

[@aserrano8318]

Anyone else surprised he hucked that kettle bell over the wall so effortlessly?

[@GallifreyanGunner]

With the sleeves cut off, wouldn't you be competing in a FOUR gun match? 🤣

[@bjorntrollgesicht1144]

Motivation! Ian's in shape, swinging those kettlebells like a champ! No bodybuilding nonsense, just good old endurance and performance.

[@matthayward7889]

Ian’s living in 2032

[@spaguettoltd.7933]

Ian flexing his right to bare arms

[@tuerney420]

Why do you think the M17 was having so many malfunctions?

[@jeffersondalton2023]

I thought that was strange too until he said it was new out of the box. My first several hundred rounds on my M18 had numerous malfunctions before gradually tapering off. in my opinion

[@tomahawk1911]

I’ve been practicing with a P320 carry tactical and a compact model for almost two years now, maybe 1000 rounds thru both. Flawless cycling, 100% reliability out of my pistols. Maybe slide rails/barrel hood too dry? And sand/dirt choked?

[@andystegall7407]

It sucks

[@tuerney420]

@@tomahawk1911 I have a P320 that I converted to an M17; had it since they came out. I've also had 0 malfunctions, ever.

[@murphywd1971]

Somehow we have GOT to get you some proper kit! A good JPC with lightweight plates, a FAST helmet, and a battle belt is what you need for that rifle/pistol combo.

[@FirstMetalHamster]

In my country we call it "NATO tan", where the arms are dark until where the sleeves of t-shirts usually begin.

[@DarthSouron]

Here is farmer's tan

[@Seth9809]

@@DarthSouron Farmer's tan in my country, is when only your hands are tanned.

[@benjaminchristman2712]

The m5 looks like its a fantastic rifle already

[@DANO-4899]

An all Sig load out. Good on you, Ian. Sig makes quality stuff.

[@ChrisEdling]

Sig stuff is garbage. The company should cease to exist m

[@johanvanzyl8479]

Respect Mr. The distances was brutal for the pistol.

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

He looks like a hybrid of ‘Nam and Desert Storm soldier 😁

[@ayushmaan9197]

Ship me to the south china sea right now

[@NikovK]

Chocolate Chip; the man's desert camo pattern. The olive drab webbing is a warrior's courtesy so they can see what to fear.

[@GruulFleury]

I liked the General Dynamics submission so much better. This thing just looks like it will be so cumbersome to handle.

[@austinhughes1924]

Ian looks really cool.With his sleeveless shirt and helmet.

[@ArmandoTheWanderer]

Sig sauer is just a consistent company especially lately love all my sig firearms. Great video!

[@haywoodwalker]

Ian's got some Illuminarms

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

Somewhat disappointed no actual spear was used knowing full well there wouldn't be one. The idea of bringing a knife to a gun fight by Ian would have been a great troll.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

Ian should've brought a pike or like one of those boar hunting spears.

[@roberta.6399]

Good Lord that's a real workout! 💪 I think you did really good.. 👍

[@comfortablynumb9342]

How are there already "surplus" new military pistols? And I want to see Ian shooting full pressure battle ammo.

[@rollastudent]

Sig sells the M17 on the open market. ETA after hearing Ian’s comment: Sig sold off the initial batch of M17s used in one of the trials, those would have been the surplus ones

[@snaker9er]

They are meeting their contract obligations and selling them on the market as well I guess

[@AbsolutionArmament]

You know what you right, But there still are difference between the M18 and p320-M18

[@bobbertbobberson6725]

@@AbsolutionArmament the military M17's are the same as the military M18's. No lightening cuts, different attachment of the rear plate, etc. The safety changes to the civilian P320 were based on what they did with the M17. And no, there's no plans I've heard of to switch the M17 for the M18.

[@Indylimburg]

@@bobbertbobberson6725 M17s are the standard issue across the board, M18s are issued to MPs and other MOSs that may need a compact pistol.

[@marcusrobinson1778]

I'm glad you show your struggles.

[@last_raven]

Not sure how much that M17 has been shot but something I have noticed with all of my 320s and various grips and slides is that in particular with the full length pistols and new frames the polymer is a bit tight on the dust cover and can give you issues going into battery until you dab a little oil on the side and work it out either with range time or just running the slide at your desk etc. I've been wanting to get a manual safety FCU for awhile just to have that bootleg M17 look on my full size

[@rexrodecolt]

9:50 Sounds like you're taking some fire there Ian! Lol

[@Struggle-Snuggle]

This is what peak performance looks like

[@risby1930]

Never met a soldier or marine who wanted a heavier rifle to carry. My dad went from the M-14 to the M-16 and never heard him complain about the M-16 being too light.

[@risby1930]

@Dick Izzinya No argument with the M-14 having a more stopping power, but according to my old man, the draftees (Vietnam) had very little interest in marksmanship. One of his responsibilities was training new fresh recruits on the range. By the way, he usually carried an M2 and was an excellent shot with that little carbine.

[@GS-el8ll]

that getup is phenomenal

[@phil20_20]

Sleeveless is the New Armor!

[@theloser668]

What went wrong with the pistol? I always thought the 320 family was pretty reliable. Just shooting at the range, I've never had any malfunctions with mine in the roughly three to five thousand rounds I've put through it.

[@jubuttib]

Some other comments have said that it might be the initial break in period. A couple of comments here said they'd had the same issues when they were new, and a few extensive range sessions sorted it right out.

[@K-bob_45]

I’m curious if his gloves may be dragging on the slide too

[@alexv6324]

Yeah I was curious as well. I have a 320 X-Carry, basically similar to the M-18 with approximately a 1000 rounds of mostly 115 grain FMJ as well as some defenseive rounds through it and I don't think I've ever experienced a malfunction.

[@ShizawnSanders]

Didn't pay attention but limp wrist maybe?

[@infogunvault6920]

Mean Rounds Between Stoppages for M17 with the JHP ammo is 1,880. According to Beretta, their M9 has a MRBS of 17,500 with FMJ. I have a video about handgun reliability if you want to watch it.

[@ChrisOnPS4]

Oh yeah the M17.. Almost Forgot about that Weapon :p

[@goliaths_foe2666]

Two GUN match, and I see he brought two firearms as well

[@raijinmeister]

A must-have piece of equipment for the _twenty-one-first century_ battlefield. I mean, your battalions will look even more capable and menacing sporting that civil war era *mustache.*

[@stephenthumb2912]

Spear, well named. Suppose the m4 is a short sword.

[@markredblue]

Loving Ian and his sleeveless gear. More please

[@bumponalog7164]

I really want to see this go against a ar15 in a realistic short to medium range 2 gun match. I have a feeling the ar15 will dominate with it's ability to quickly move between targets and quick follow up shots.

[@andrewgee241]

My prediction is the Army ends up only using the M5 rifle with this all brass training ammo because of recoil. The 80k psi special cartridge will only be used in the M250 belt fed machine gun.

[@baneofbanes]

@@micahhumdinger7473 I mean they only used the M14 on semi auto so it wouldn’t be the first time.

[@Xechran]

I can't help but wonder how much better off this would have been as a bull pup. They could have gotten same velocity with a longer barrel and same over all length. Solves many of the odd case issues and brings center of mass back into shooter helping balance the can.

[@ALegitimateYoutuber]

ya, to me the bullpup always comes off as a better design. the pros just outweigh the cons.

[@aloadofbollocks988]

@@ALegitimateKZbinr The only important complaints against bullpups are ambidexterity and trigger-feel, both of which shouldn't be an issue in a new, modern rifle.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

bullpups are a silly relic of the 20th century best left in the past.

[@Xechran]

@@aloadofbollocks988 Even better. Ian answered one of my Q&A questions some time ago about using an electronic sear for bull pups. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ane2naJ5h9KMeqs Basically the only reason not to was, "The government is going to turn off my gun from space with a satellite"

[@aloadofbollocks988]

@@Xechran I don't understand why it's too mechanically complex for a bullpup to mimic a standard rifles trigger after how so many years of experience and modern technology.

[@thomasbecker9676]

Sun's out, gun's out.

[@lancesmith3585]

@forgottenweapons what advice do you have for someone interested in getting into 2 gun and eventually competing in a Brutality match?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

1. Start with basic, practical guns - save the old milsurp for later. 2. Zero your guns 3. Go do it.

[@rapstyle2006]

I'd say your first goal in the competition should be to know the rules and be safe at all times and not get disqualified.

[@user-fd7tl4xg6y]

Respect for getting out there and doing that, miss or no miss!

[@zacktodd9835]

I bet Ian is low key shredded under there

[@PureCountryof91]

Sun's out, Guns out. Loving the content

[@WestPat23]

Thank you for this interesting video. I’ve never done two gun before, but now I want to

[@Mike-gg7ip]

dude the 320 really loves to come just shy of going in to battery