2 homeowners sentenced in deadly Long Island fire

[@greedo2660]

The whole AirBnB business model is shysty as hell. There's a reason commercial businesses shouldn't be allowed in residential neighborhoods. I'd like to see the company held liable.

[@Nayr747]

Not gonna happen. Laws are for poor people not corporations.

[@styldsteel1]

Right!

[@Nahbruhsheesh]

Yeah and people wanting screaming deals and refusing to pay professionals get this.

[@Nayr747]

@@Nahbruhsheesh AirBNBs usually cost more than nice hotels. They're very overpriced when you factor in all the hidden fees.

[@christystewart4567]

@@Nahbruhsheeshthere was a case in Palm Springs that sort of illustrates this but without deaths or injuries. A woman bought a vacation home to be near her father when she had time off. Turned it into an AirBnB for when she was at work about 500 miles away. She ended up getting squatters. AirBnB wouldn’t help her evict them until her sister whose a newspaper reporter started writing stories about this. Thing is in Palm Springs there are property management companies that deal with renting out your properties. But they are more expensive than AirBnB and for good reason.

[@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm]

Man, I can't even imagine the grief...

[@Bringthewinter]

Can’t imagine. Only two family members left now out of five.

[@darvoid66]

I feel the same. I'm sitting here tearing up thinking about how awful this must have been for everyone in that house when it was too late to escape for those two precious daughters.

[@FucU4ever]

People lose their whole family all the time.

[@Bringthewinter]

@@FucU4ever and it’s tragic. I remember hearing a story about a squirrel that snuck into an attic, chewed through the wires, and set the house ablaze, killing the entire family while they were asleep. So, yes, there are all kinds of stories. Doesn’t make it easy getting used to.

[@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm]

All across the USA our laws on speeding resulting in crashes are very lax. Doesn't seem to matter if it's a Blue state or Red.

[@occamsrazorblades]

They wouldn't live in a house like that, but they sure as hell would rent it out to an unsuspecting family.

[@user-su7sw8su8s]

🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@FucU4ever]

What are you event alking about, they lived in the house AND rented it out

[@user-su7sw8su8s]

@@FucU4ever you know this how? Were you their neighbor? Oh you must be the person that would rent it for them🤨

[@annecaru9208]

So true , just unacceptable . Greeting selfish demons. Their time will come .

[@AK-vw8le]

There was nothing wrong with the house itself; the outlook cooking part was wrongly built

[@whaheydelee]

Communuty service? Many of us do that without committing crimes.

[@tvviewer4500]

Savage

[@user-zv1km3mb2z]

It's time to shutdown RB and B

[@krimsonedit3272]

well they were negligent but certainly not criminally intent on murdering anyone it's a tragedy all the way around.

[@Abercrombemonkey]

American Justice.

[@styldsteel1]

For real. Then I guess I do community service every day I come home from work.

[@robinshane4661]

So basically you’re telling us, there was no punishment.

[@SalimAbdallah-ek7jq]

So there shouldn't be !! I see two innocent people having been dragged through courts (luckily no jail time) over trying to save thousands of $$ from greedy construction / electrical contractors !!

[@MrYfrank14]

The house was in a Democrat occupied zone. Criminals can not be prosecuted. If the homeowners were Trump supporters they would have executed but Democrats will never allow Democrats to punished.

[@ytr3488]

You're out of your mind ​@@SalimAbdallah-ek7jq

[@derpdiggler7413]

hopefully a civil suit is pursued at the very least

[@santiagobenites]

@@SalimAbdallah-ek7jq That's a pathetic excuse. They could afford that large home, so they could afford to pay a proper contractor. You wouldn't be saying that if it were your family who perished.

[@maureenmckillop3622]

What a joke. What a waste of time going to court...probation...community service???

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Do you know what would happen if your government did that? Or a corporation? Nothing... The sentence is stern, and fitting for the alleged acts.

[@whammo11224]

Agree! There was loss of life!

[@bftvclips8925]

Proven at fault the family can now do a civil suit against them and bankrupt them

[@leemarie414]

No permits, no smoke detectors, no jail time. There should be some jail time at least. TWO people lost their lives and they were in agony. That is going to be one hell of a civil suit.

[@AK-vw8le]

I respectfully disagree. NO jail time should be served. A civil suit is MUCH more appropriate here. This was completely unintentional

[@robingalbraith323]

​@@AK-vw8lehow is doing work without permits and inspection unintentional? That is a known choice you make when you choose to do work on your home. You can either get a permit and get it inspected or you break the law and don't. Thay would be intentional. You think it's an accident they didn't get a permit or an inspection?

[@Gmac_Greg_M]

That’s not how it works. They shouldn’t even of gotten community service. Code violations fall under ordinances not laws. Which means they are civil infractions. The punishment should come from civil litigation not criminal litigation. Sad situation all around.

[@Gmac_Greg_M]

@@robingalbraith323 that’s not how it works. 99% of homes have some kind of violation because of the mass amounts of ordinances in place. Code violations are civil Infractions. How they got sentenced to anything at all kind of blows my mind. This should only be handled in civil litigation. RIP to the innocent people killed. It’s unfortunate.

[@ThomasCraig-rg9bg]

That sentence is disgraceful

[@SalimAbdallah-ek7jq]

The sentence was harsh imo. I mean have you seen what kitchen construction & electrical contractors charge nowadays ?? They should NEVER have even been charged , not their fault !!

[@Sunny-cb3ou]

@@SalimAbdallah-ek7jqYou missed the whole lesson in this story.

[@Oreomilkcookie]

@@Sunny-cb3ou that the government should be able to control how you live inside your home?

[@Ghostface24315]

Should have never gone to court in the first place. It happens.

[@mannygonzalez4178]

@@SalimAbdallah-ek7jqshut up you troll.

[@pretendamnesia]

This is so heartbreaking for the mother & son 😢😢😢

[@RajiahJacobs]

Community service? 💔 those poor girls, to pass away scared and trapped and it was the homeowners fault and they only got community service? Now their dad is also gone, just mom and son left 😢🙏 my heart breaks for this family, may their loved ones rest in peace.

[@JohnDoe-fv7ue]

You said a lot of words without saying anything at all, just summarizing the “news” story. If you want to call this news.

[@awesometopics1988]

Rip this is so tragic and terrible all around ..so sad and so sorry for this loss..

[@annmarie1689]

When will they just BAN air bNb ? No more renting out your house. Stop with all these rental loop holes. No more short term rentals.

[@stevenwinterhill3623]

You couldn't pay me to sleep in people's houses 🤢 gross

[@SL-lz9jr]

Most hotels are gross too. ​@@stevenwinterhill3623

[@AK-vw8le]

BNB is absolutely critical for many people. We already have a housing crisis

[@jimtib8206]

I would never stay at "air bnb" The whole business model is shady as hell, I'd much rather stay at a hotel. It's safe and secure with cameras and security guards.

[@WooBino.]

Yep the family wanted to stay in a McMansion...the dad should of checked for smoke detectors himself to protect his family.

[@same5952]

@@WooBino. That was hardly a McMansion.

[@lettiegrant9447]

Exactly!👍👍

[@stevenwinterhill3623]

Same, I would feel more comfortable at the Marriott or a nice hotel that follows protocol with safety and cleanliness 👌

[@applepie9576]

Agree. I do take my sani-wipes and clean the room tho. Such a horrible thing to happen to this family.

[@elainethomson7146]

What kind of sentence is this? It's certainly not justice.

[@egyphon]

Not having smoke detectors is disgusting, I am a landlord, I want my tenants to be safe in my apartments. I don't understand how you can have so much disregard for someone else's life. When they move him, I have them test the fire alarm to prove that it works.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Liar.

[@JohnDoe-fv7ue]

Okay Mr. Landlord. -_-

[@namvet1968]

Bravo!

[@Doyamn]

They killed 2 people and they get community service? WTF!?

[@H3LLS4NG3L]

So... no punishment for criminal negligence leading to death?

[@AK-vw8le]

Respectfully, NO jail time should be served. Community service and a civil suit is MUCH more appropriate here. This was completely unintentional

[@drezarom3627]

Being killed from an air bnb is so sad

[@Johnny.Natural]

People don't understand the risk of air bnb

[@WooBino.]

Should of went to a hotel/motel like they should of...but wanted to stay in a McMansion.

[@Barbara-u5h]

Probation?? Community service? Homeowners too cheap to get smoke detectors. Cost$15. No permit to build outdoor kitchen. Too cheap! And they killed 2 beautiful women. Shame on them!! Very sad😢😢

[@Gmac_Greg_M]

I disagree. While it’s sad and the owners should be held liable in civil court. There were no laws broken here, just violations in city/ county ordinances

[@ShrandaM]

So sad and unfortunate. My deepest condolences go to all of the loved ones. 🤲🏽💔

[@elizabethod]

May they rest in peace ❤

[@SallyLanger-rd6ew]

What a light sentence for such a heinous crime of negligence

[@normanskillings9492]

That is so heartbreaking.. prayers for everyone involved

[@QuanPookie]

You people seriously act like prayers accomplish anything.

[@TheManDownstairs13]

Hearing stories like this really burns me up 🔥

[@Josue166]

A slap on the wrist that's all they got. They must be connected in that county. Also, why isn't AirBnB being held liable for not inspecting the house?

[@whaheydelee]

Air BnB lobbysts

[@teresaromanski3925]

I know these people and you don't know the whole story, they lived next door to me when this happened. They are devastated by this and will never be the same, they are good, kind to a fault, and loving people. Have some empathy for them as well.

[@teresaromanski3925]

And by the way, they are not connected to anybody.

[@whaheydelee]

@@teresaromanski3925 I don't doubt what you say, I'm sure they are very good people who meant no harm. I honestly feel for them but can't go as far as to say I have empathy for them. They improved their property for financial gain without the proper permits, inspections, or required safeguards, obviously to save money. My wife, children, and I have performed community service multiple times the sentence they received and never committed a crime. And I'm sure there are many other families like us out there as well. Good as they may be, they got off easy.

[@Jade_902]

AirBnB is a service, a middle man. Why should they be held responsible?

[@Abercrombemonkey]

damn and the father dies from pancreatic cancer afterwards too? Family of five down to mom and son. That is terrible and give those 2 criminals COMMUNITY SERVICE???

[@namvet1968]

Insane!

[@Winkles69]

They will rebuild the family

[@robertfunk2796]

I don't think anyone thinks intent was deliberate here but on the other hand don't put others at risk -- look what can happen and unfortunately it did

[@anniehills3580]

Lord have MERCY!!😢 THAT ENTIRE FAMILY!😢😢❤❤! R I P BEAUTIFUL ONES❤❤

[@BillySBC]

Certainly these people had the money to have an electrician do the work correctly. This is why we have building and electrical codes.

[@JohnDoe-fv7ue]

They literally said in the story that they didn’t, obviously you didn’t. I can also tell you’re bad at sarcasm and really awkward.

[@namvet1968]

Spot on!

[@BillySBC]

@@JohnDoe-fv7ue Are you uh... waiting for the people on this thread to get the belt sir?

[@verawallace9055]

Shameful, you have to think of others not just the money, Smart beautiful and caring young people,Rip

[@KylaMedina]

No prison time for causing two deaths

[@davebruneau6068]

Bad workmanship combined with stupidity & cowardice. What could go wrong?

[@michellewalters4484]

People hate licensing and their attached fees, for them, but they're in place for a reason. This is one of those reasons. Please live responsibly so that others can live, and don't rent your home out when you know it's not built under code.

[@jayperez6142]

Ok. Yes they built an outdoor kitchen “themselves” usually means a contractor did it on the low with no permits. Not the homeowner. But what caused the actual fire to start? Like what sparked it? Because I’m sure it wasn’t built yesterday and the next day they rented it out 👀. So many questions to have. They probably took a plea deal because they didn’t have permits. But what was the main issue as to why it exploded and caused a fire

[@BrokebutCreative]

Logic says an electrical short that ignited something... my cousin rented a house and shoddy electrical in the garage caused a fire. She got burned. Fortunately, they had smoke detectors. Not everything is a conspiracy.

[@jayperez6142]

No one mentioned a conspiracy. Just questions we will never have answers to 🤷🏽‍♂️. Just because the 2 girls from that family passed… doesn’t mean there isn’t a possible way negligence on their end could have happened causing the fire 🤷🏽‍♂️. No way to know if the kitchen was actually built correctly either hence causing that electrical short. Once again. Questions we will never have answers to

[@leonardodalongisland]

PAY ATTENTION!! They did not have permits. we all know that-we have ears. LISTEN to the story!! zAnd faulty wiring "goes bad" any time it wants-it doesn't have t obe the day after it was installed. Please STFU!

[@HyenaEmpyema]

@@leonardodalongisland having a signed paper from the government doesn't suddenly prevent a fire from appearing. @jayperez6142 was asking the physical mechanism by which the fire began.

[@HyenaEmpyema]

probably a gas leak that found an ignition source. maybe they used connectors that weren't meant for gas, or they connected a neutral to ground to save a wire. Or didn't use outdoor-grade electrical conduit or boxes, and water got in and froze and damaged the wiring, then someone left the gas on low and an ignition source made a fire. Just guesses.

[@jennyjerome5669]

No permits, no smoke detectors, unprofessional installation of a stove?! So little needed to be done to protect the inhabitants. The defendants got off easy.

[@dylanhill1640]

The homeowners got off easy.

[@PatriciaColosimo]

What a shame! RIP condolences to family! ❤️🙏🙏🙏

[@geminisunleomoon]

AirBnB should have housing inspector's make sure those places are safe and up to code. Landlords do, this should be no different.

[@funwithFred]

I am glad they were prosecuted and think they should have received a stiffer sentence. I am SICK of what I've seen some owners get away with.......awful.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

You're pathetic.

[@lisakaplan9433]

Rest in peace angels🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🌹🌹🌹

[@daveb2778]

This IS WHY PEOPLE SHOULD HIRE A REAL ELECTRICIAN, instead of being cheap,

[@jogoldcoaster2847]

American Laws are so slack...! ......In Australia..it is the Law........all electrical work must be carried out by a registered Electrician ...

[@darvoid66]

What a sad, unfortunate story. I'm surprised that there was no severe penalties for causing the death of 2 people and injuries to others due to negligence. I hope that there are civil repercussions with major awards to the remaining victims. This never had to happen if not for the negligence and unauthorized property additions. I'm so sorry for this family and all of their friends and loved ones.

[@yudonna]

This is a downside to streaming things for convience and time. Traditionally you go to a villa or hotel, but now that you are renting from someone s house, there's a multitude of factors involved. Is the same with food delivery and uber rides. You will get a variance in service and product. Be aware of the downside as well. This is very unfortunate 😢.

[@macmiller1678]

Anything other than prison time is not justice.

[@KasperKali]

Tragic loss of life that could have been prevented. So sad 😢

[@vs52217]

I hope they sue the homeowners in civil court and get all their money.

[@paulgolanec9286]

For a few hundred dollars smoke detectors could’ve been easily installed and maybe these two young women would still be with us today 🙏🙏🙏

[@Fayw2023]

Were there not any?

[@paulgolanec9286]

@ no they were not as stated in news

[@clarkmacgowan5114]

You don't even have to install them. You go to the store and buy one, you put a nail on the wall and hang it. That's what I did in my last rental home. There were smoke detectors in the hallway at the end of the house but it was a long house. So I bought two smoke detectors on my own and put them in the far bedroom and the office. I tested them regularly, they most definitely would have worked in a fire. I really recommend that anyone going to an airbnb, and frankly even hotels these days, get a combo carbon monoxide detector and smoke alarm. They're only about $14 and you can fit them in your suitcase. It could save your life.

[@harrysgarage1440]

Always bring your own smoke detector when traveling.

[@Freezeivy]

Horrific, poor family and girls. God bless them 🙏

[@trudichoate1950]

Sad 😢

[@donaldreason5664]

Breason I'm so very sorry . May God help you in everyway you need now and in the future dear family... 😢😢😢

[@MrYfrank14]

Bet the owners charged them a cleaning fee to remove the bodies.

[@vccvcc9694]

WHAT A JOKE……COMMUNITY SERVICE????

[@atsavvy6.0]

Building Codes and Regulations are in place for a reason !

[@denisehulick47]

Wow...God be with the mom & son. 🙏💕

[@JerryArafatso-zy3gz]

Don't go to air BNB.

[@neoneherefrom5836]

oh ok cool tnx

[@IvanNarea-wm1yu]

Sad news 💔 😢💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏

[@110311DONTWANTCHANNE]

i hope at least the family was awarded every penny the owner had

[@Barbara-u5h]

Nothing!!! Community service. I would have sued their sorry cheap behind for millions. Sag harbor,where is home is located in multimillion dollar neighborhood. On the water,!!! Sue

[@cheldosarmiento2733]

No jail time... Disgusting

[@Erinski]

This just another reason why Air B&B shouldn't be a thing. Not only is it killing much needed inventory for people that need long-term housing, it's completely unregulated. You have greedy people buying everything up, spending just enough money to add marketable add-ons, while spending nothing on the basic necessities of making the whole thing safe for human occupation.

[@JJ-mn8md]

Gosh so much tragedy and sadness. May god allow to continue and strive after all this 😢

[@NihonKaikan]

Wieners got roasted? That's really sad.

[@stevepiazza2381]

Two beautiful girls died because of the carelessness of others. What a shame.

[@bugsysiegel3896]

Sad, just sad.

[@tod3msn]

Air B and B has nothing to do with homeowners not following code. It’s obviously tragic and yet one more ounce of proof that regulations toward repairs and fire alarms are there for public safety and not to annoy home owners.

[@hippychic7546]

in this day and age, how can u have a big house without smoke alarms?? i mean come on...i have one in every single room! i am fire paranoid jeez!

[@Iposttherforeiam]

Our Airbnb has smoke detectors, carbon monoxide meters, fire extinguishers and is inspected twice per year by the township for a certificate of occupancy. It is connected to our home. It is a safe place.

[@ToriNore]

RIP Angels 🕊️🕊️

[@anthonybick9264]

My God how many times do we need to say the name. Over and over. All started with a guy named Louis Wiener.

[@bhornannawindeedeigh5007]

3 years probation + 100 hours of community service? Not enough! Two lives were lost. Horrible! Condolences to the survivors.

[@evanr1784]

Something doesnt jive here. I know people who rent their house for the summer in that area and i know for a fact that in order for the house to be legally rented one must present proof that its up to code and be inspected by the town of Southhampton before the owner can legally rent it

[@arribaficationwineho32]

How were the 2 girls trapped? The report did not give details

[@Firstofanyone]

People can get trapped when the smoke inhalation gets too drastic before they could make it out. It’s a matter of seconds.

[@anthonypereira1793]

No punishment!?Wow that's crazy

[@beautyconsultant7228]

If they were renting out the house as an Airbnb, why didn’t they just hire someone to construct the kitchen properly and get the proper permits? It’s an investment. Any money spent during construction would have been recouped when they rented out the property. That’s greedy and being cheap! Now a family has lost 2 daughters. Very unfortunate!

[@lynnec6325]

Wait! WHAT? No emergency alarms? WOW.

[@GizmoMaltese]

It's sad that the father lived just long enough to see his children die in a fire. If only he were spared that experience.

[@JudgeDredd_]

They are defined by Airbnb Tragedy not just tragedy.

[@americanpancakelive]

This is ridiculous on so many levels. First of all the homeowners should get a minimum of 15 years each, secondly, if you rent an air bnb, check all smoke and carbon monoxide detectors or better yet, bring your own.

[@TheMartyrsMilitia]

That sentence is a joke

[@MBS1995]

Guys I live in Suffolk County and I can tell you people who do stuff like this usually get slap on the wrist sentences like this one especially if you're a wealthy person from the Hamptons with a good lawyer like they had. Doesn't surprise me at all.

[@bettybelongia7213]

Wow. No. Alarms so. Sad😢

[@jeffsemon1774]

We're the "island bois" involved?

[@Barbara-u5h]

What,??

[@lisabrightly]

What was the sentence? Did I miss something?

[@MartinisnOlives]

The parents lost both daughters? Awful. I can’t even imagine.

[@Gmac_Greg_M]

This was for sure negligence, I’m not sure how they were criminally prosecuted as code violations are normally not laws but city ordinances that cannot be punishable by jail time. This is something that should be handled in a civil case not a criminal case. I’m sorry for the loss of those two women. Couldn’t imagine being in that position.

[@ExcitedSnowMountain-jt4gq]

They got off easy 😢

[@suzanbeverlyhills2310]

So sad 😢

[@mi81tkne47]

I remember when Air b b started up, I thought to myself that I would never want to be involved on either end. If you're a renter then you have to worry about hidden cameras and who has a key to the place, if you 're the owner you never really know who is coming in and what they'll do. Who wants to spend months in court fighting over damages?

[@sandreawhite7534]

So sad.

[@MartinisnOlives]

Probation and community service? THAT IS WRONG. What was wrong with that judge?

[@triplepalletjack]

Prosecution FAILED. should be behind bars.

[@ernestbailey3270]

Was there a kitchen inside of the house as well? They don't say what actually caused the fire.

[@msalohakitty]

Wow only mother and son left 😢 so sad

[@DaCubanPrincess]

Wow wow wow...what a freak accident

[@Bando-fx4mf]

Sag harbor residents says it all. Law doesn’t apply to them. If you’re not from LongIsland you wouldn’t get it. The case Being tried in riverhead small court is another big sign of the corruption. 🤦‍♂️

[@FlyingLibrarian1111]

What??? Only community service for cutting corners that led to a family tragedy? The sentence is a crime and the judge should be thrown in prison

[@SiimplyAngie7088]

❤❤So sad 😢😢

[@NishyVasquez]

I totally read that wrong the first time. I thought it said 2 homeowners sentenced to death by fire. I was like, “Whoa! They’re taking it back to the old times”. Anyways this is horrible. I’m sorry that this happened.

[@JohnDoe-fv7ue]

GAHDAYUM YOU’RE A NITWIT!

[@HansumTrini]

Why did you make me snort-laugh at this 😩😅

[@MsArtistwannabe]

They’re going to have to sue to get some kind of justice.

[@Bando-fx4mf]

Sag harbor residents says it all. Law doesn’t apply to them. If you’re not from LongIsland you wouldn’t get it.