2+ Hours of Ancient Cornucopia Gaining Life to Fall Asleep To | Against the Odds

How many Ancient Cornucopias do we need to make it so we can never die in Standard? Let's find out!
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0:00 Start
4:30 Games

[@nintandem2119]

30:00 it's a "may" so you can refuse to gain when you cast your 1 colour spell, and then cast a multicolour spell to gain more life that turn

[@lillyslife3981]

I find it so weird that he misses things like that sometimes. I thought this was so obvious!

[@Netro1992]

Are you sure about that? Because it reads like it triggers once regardless if you take the life or not.

[@KaceTM]

@@Netro1992I’m 100% certain it works like nintandem said, I’ve tested it myself and you can see Swayze use it this way in one of his videos.

[@nintandem2119]

@@Netro1992 Yes, this very situation came up in another Arena video I saw

[@Arcolyte13]

@@Netro1992 The trigger is casting a spell, the life gain is what can happen once per turn.

[@VRanger100]

I thought the video title was cute until I realized he was serious about the gameplay being 2 hours plus XD

[@keilanl1784]

40:03 It hurt me so much to see Seth crack that clue empty-handed when during that match he even pointed out he could copy clues with Worldwalker's Helm to draw more cards.

[@xtensioncordtv1969]

He also could've started copying his incubator token earlier in that game and beat down his opponent.

[@DieinnereStimme]

​@@xtensioncordtv1969 Are Incubator Tokens without +1/+1 counters on them really that good..? 😉😅

[@Cheerwine091]

@@xtensioncordtv1969The incubator copies would be 0/0’s

[@derekengel5267]

​@@xtensioncordtv1969 Wouldn't the incubate token be a 0/0 with no counters on it?

[@derrickthewhite1]

Came here to say this.

[@Arcolyte13]

4 minutes in, salivating at the length of the video but obscenely disappointed in a severe lack of Doppelgang. You were the chosen one!

[@networkzanimex]

I was just going to comment this. Where is the Doppelgang!?

[@MTGGoldfish]

I can't play Doppelgang in *every* deck (or can I?)

[@Lucat27]

2+ Hours of Ancient Cornucopia Gaining Life to Fall Asleep To (Now With More Doppelgängers)

[@Arcolyte13]

@@MTGGoldfish certainly not every deck, but maybe more? Especially when the deck has a copying theme revolving around mana rocks and creature lands. You've shown me this truth.

[@ooyoututchmytralala]

@@MTGGoldfishglad you didn’t, not everything needs to be super Meta!

[@younghahwang9748]

Cornucopia is optional because you might be planning on playing a card with extra colors not as your first card, so you can maximize corning.

[@jms4979]

Note the wording is "do this only once each turn" rather than "this ability triggers only once per turn". That's necessary to make this work mechanically, and that's the hint for why it's a may

[@natebrown1917]

As somebody who *always* turns on Against the Odds or Much Abrew to fall asleep, this is a dream come true

[@CSDragon]

literally :V

[@wookieesden3133]

Same! Yesterday a video came up on the TV and my wife said “oh is it bedtime already?”

[@rylanchampion5972]

"I'll be back a bit for the wrap up" is the longest "bit" ever

[@Goldy01]

"I'll be back in 3-5 business days for the wrap up" 🤣

[@Wiseclone5555]

At 1:05:18 you could have saved Jin with No More Lies. Your opponent had 4 mana left after using Flashback, and Jin would copy your No More Lies. 3+3 > 4

[@mistriousfrog]

He definitely constantly forgot that jin copies his spells since he seemed surprised every single time it happened.

[@prowessbjj3764]

That hurt to watch.

[@samogburn2662]

Ngl I was rooting for your opponents each match

[@Mastumaty]

Huffing all of that cornucopium

[@Playsion126]

It's 4:15am in Germany rn. I'm trying to sleep. So I will watch this to fall asleep now. I'll update if it worked when I hopefully wake up

[@fibsh7453]

wat how are you alive

[@raser4329]

"Hopefully wake up" is crazy bro

[@Playsion126]

It's now 6:29am, I am indeed awake again. I woke up and Seth is still making tokens of the same card. Wth

[@deutscher1a]

@@fibsh7453 i was awake till 4am for over 4 years... I worked a special shift at 12:00 just for me("make the machines run longer") My friend has a changing shift every 2 days(early, late, night, and free) My father had to drive trucks at 3am My brother loaded trucks before that(same company) My uncle has to prep the load-outs for the trucks(back to earrly shift) TL;DR: Just caause you have a certain timeframe doesnt mean that others follow it too

[@dallinhilton3189]

Hahaha thanks for the update. Glad you woke up. Rumor has it Seth is still copying cornucopia with the helm to this day.

[@CSDragon]

Crud Seth is onto me. How does he know I use his videos to help fall asleep (Thanks to him reading out each card that gets played Radio-style, letting me visualize the boardstate without needing to my eyes. Seriously it's why you're my favorite MTG youtuber, Seth)

[@kurumitokisaki9546]

this tbh, i really like to fall asleep with Seth videos

[@1033515]

It's probably a May ability so that you can skip your 1-color life gain if you know you're going to be casting a multiple-color spell later in the turn Edit: You can also copy your Sunfall* tokens (Edit 2: I forgot how incubate works ignore this part)

[@theanalogkidmodular]

Came here to say this

[@AaronRotenberg]

This is essential to the new builds of Pioneer Niv to Light that use Cornucopia. They cast Bring to Light for Niv, declining the first Cornucopia trigger so that they gain 5 life off Niv instead of 2 life off Bring to Light.

[@Lreclusa]

I was wondering why he used it when he was going to cast a 2-color spell afterwards, then he started asking why it was a may ability and realized he didn't even see the line.

[@thedelightfulshadow3764]

sunfall tokens* but wouldnt the incubate token just be a 0/0 if copied?

[@kvgjr1890]

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[@KingCaboose]

Even I gained life.

[@jorritdriessen5728]

Gained life, but the opponent lost the will to live

[@zaksaturday1693]

38:19 Agonizing seeing you miss lethal, restless vinestalk would've been able to go over the board while field's down and you know they had no removal since they never got priority

[@hashock1239]

There was a field of ruin on the board.

[@zackestin1368]

@@hashock1239 with one other land, field of ruin needs 2 mana to activate

[@TheSeattle6]

I legit thought this was a stream replay thanks to the length but then it started with the deck tech

[@daniduc]

Cards I'm excited to rotate, as a Standard bo1 player: - Kumano facet kakkazan - Thalia - Wedding announcement - Yes, Wandering Emperor - The 1 life sac lands (oh man, the effects triggers!!) - Rafflne - Virtuoso (don't see much, but, omg is it annoying. Everyone who plays it takes for ever on each single conive decision, and everyone has a protection spell up holding priority all the time)

[@noobtube2799]

"Restless Vinestalker" Holy crap seth you just made my most played manland a whole lot scarier

[@TheWorldsStage]

Now this type of pure jank content is exactly why I'm subscribed

[@matthewschachter5147]

Hey seth: The reason cornucopia is a may is because it triggers only once each turn, and you might want to cast a mono color spell, then cast a multicolor spell and have the additional life gain from the multicolor spell

[@jaronsurf]

Cornucopia is an amazing card in lifegain turbofog decks. When I first saw it, I put it into my Angus Mackenzie deck and it fit PERFECTLY.

[@zurreal8087]

No lie, I always use Seth streams to fall asleep. They’re the perfect blend of engaging enough to hold your attention and low-agency enough to not excite you. If you sleep alone and you’ve never tried it, give it a shot!

[@davidhansen5067]

I've got a whole playlist of my favorite of his videos for exactly that purpose.

[@cokematic]

His voice is so soothing.

[@ozzyg6451]

The fact you may choose which spell will be the one you use during your turn to gain life makes it much better.

[@trevorferry4939]

I'm a little surprised that this deck doesn't run 2 or 3 Simulacrum Synthesizers, especially since Seth has liked it so much in other decks. I feel like Synthesizer would be a perfect finisher. Unless I'm mistaken, the token copies of Cornucopia and Worldwalker's Helm keep their mana cost, so every token copy made of them would also make a Karnstruct. If you make your tokens on the end of your opponent's turn, you can dodge any board wipes before you get a chance to attack. I might try to make this and swap the Jins for Synthesizers.

[@syrelian]

Run Dopplegang as well, since the gameplan involves excessive mana and copying, eventually you can X Dopplegang for like... I'd say probably like, 5, dump 25 Corn copies, and have your recovery explode

[@MTGGoldfish]

But if we have Synthesizer we might actually kill someone.

[@ezrabartsch1505]

Seth, your boldness to play the grindy decks is much appreciated.

[@chrisbonjour111]

The perfect deck for the player who wants to just play magic and spend their GP Saturday going 0-0-9

[@user-ld6yh1wt8q]

Hey saffron olive just wanted to say I loved the video and also I have a cool deck which I think you will like. If you remember your lae'zels acrobatics deck the deck I have here is very similar but uses a card called another round instead of lae;zels acrobatics and is also for pioneer. Tweak the deck to your liking but I would love to see how it would do against the decks currently meta have fun! 4 Charming Prince 4 Gilded Goose 3 Archaeomancer 4 Elvish Visionary 4 Breeding Pool 1 Godless Shrine 4 Essence Flux 1 Deputy of Detention 1 Hallowed Fountain 3 Overgrown Tomb 4 Temple Garden 2 Panharmonicon 4 Siege Rhino 2 Indatha Triome 1 Zagoth Triome 1 Branchloft Pathway 4 Skyclave Apparition 4 Tangled Florahedron 4 Glasspool Mimic 1 Barkchannel Pathway 1 Darkbore Pathway 1 Hengegate Pathway 2 Elite Spellbinder 4 Prosperous Innkeeper 4 Spara's Headquarters 1 Raffine's Tower 2 Titan of Industry 2 Abuelo, Ancestral Echo 3 Steamcore Scholar 4 Another Round Sideboard 1 Yorion, Sky Nomad 2 Pick Your Poison 3 Unlicensed Hearse 3 Mystical Dispute 2 Damping Sphere 3 Roiling Vortex 1 Grafdigger's Cage

[@Brodysseous]

Classic Seth talking about cloning Clues, getting a Clue to clone, then immediately saccing it to draw.

[@doppelganger5328]

i love seth bc he reminds me of when i play while high

[@hallorette5059]

Seems like a good list for Dopplegang.

[@anthonymentalewicz5143]

You said this is a back ground sound video... literally showered, made dinner, ate, then meal prepped a completely different meal for the weekend shifts.

[@Nicc11221]

Normal video: Seth screaming enthusiastically ✅ 2+ hours of *video* to fall asleep to: Seth screaming enthusiastically ✅

[@TheBlackKnightmare]

Forensic gadgeteer +this combo. Mana reduction means each turn you will effectively add as many helms as u have blue mana which in turn generates an equal number of cornucopia on the next turn allowing you to double your totals every other turn of yours (or every turn if you have the untap emblem)

[@joekendall8401]

I rewatched some of the old against the odds videos and realized that most of my favourites were +90 minutes. I'm not complaining because I know that it makes sense from a content perspective to make shorter videos, but I'm very grateful for this longer video. Thanks Seth.

[@midnalight6419]

Endless detour is really cool, because two copies of it makes it a win condition. The first can always target the other in the graveyard. And with enough life gain from the cornucopias, you can outlast most decks.

[@nicholashertel3249]

Hahhaha that title tho. Love you seth your a real one ❤️

[@muhammadrafi4723]

I love the thumbnail has Teferi with the expression that said "You didn't expect this to be really two hours long didn't you?"

[@goomshill]

My favorite control deck in standard is just 4x cornucopia, 4x three steps ahead, 4x intimidation campaign. Everything else removal/counters/hearse/etc. It doesn't go as 'infinite', but even just somewhere 1-8 total cornucopias is plenty when you gain a reliable 3+ life per cornucopia per turn. There's a point at which lifegain outpaces most every deck's ability to deal damage (especially through 20+ pieces of interaction), and you don't really gain anything beyond that but meme potential. When I end a game with 100 life I feel pretty good

[@nickdzzl]

i love decks like this. always use as many of your cards as possible.

[@thecrazycapn]

Seth just chuckling and looking at the absurd number of maps.

[@lava2istrue]

“Cornucopia! Stuff it in the cornucopia!”

[@issau9739]

love stimming to these videos, ill put them on in the background while im doing whatever, love this

[@doublee343]

This what people who don’t play control think playing control is like

[@carissamace]

Hi Seth! It's weird being the first one here. It feels like walking through an empty shopping mall with all the stores open and the lights on.

[@jaxsonbateman]

At first I was questioning the choice of Cornucopia to use with this synergy, of all things - but being a mana rock that gains life is huge, as the mana rock side of things makes the Helm activation cost pseudo-1, and the lifegain does give the mana rock a wincon within itself. Honestly, pretty solid choice all around.

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

This is a deck that gains you a cornu-copious amount of life.

[@ItzJames57]

Definitely gonna listen to this while I fall asleep tonight lol

[@connorkennedy1794]

I love this title. Keep playing cool decks, Seth.

[@noltingcr]

I did indeed fall asleep at one point watching this. This is such a silly deck, love it.

[@sandkatt]

I got many hearty chuckles watching this at 2x speed.

[@TheChowderhead]

About to fall asleep to this video, I'll give a review when I wake up. You better not disappoint, Seth.

[@TheChowderhead]

Slept like a log, thanks Seth! 🫡

[@modifiedb1327]

First deck I wasn't like; "Hey that looks fun to play."😊

[@momi1carlos]

This deck is actually amazing in Ranked, I made a few changes by adding Wondering Emperor, a couple more of removals, counter spells, I removed Jin and Teferi, and obviously... added Doppelgang! Good control deck

[@Varler_]

Literally did fall asleep to this. Woke up this morning to the video finished. Lol.

[@EffinChat]

Seth: if only we had a clue, then we could copy it with helm. Also seth, 3 turns later: crack this clue, i want to draw cards now

[@yannickweiler7033]

I think Doppelgang would be perfect in this deck

[@njmaloney25]

The funniest part is that your videos usually does play while I sleep

[@Dan_Dee]

The salty rage quit was too funny lol

[@isaacbenrubi9613]

Seth had so much life to spare that he invested all his money into creating a real Helix Pinnacle so he can win the universe.

[@WesTheGiant]

This deck DESPEREATELY needs a proper win condition. There's options but I like the idea of splashing red for Meria, Scholar of antiquity: You can turn all the map tokens into mana / impulse draw and dig for a copy of like, WorldSoul's Rage or some big X spell and just win the game already

[@kurumitokisaki9546]

this deck is actually pure Cornucopium

[@evanjohnson6884]

This is a great video to watch right after rhystic studies’ video on lantern control

[@andrewgolubiewski3463]

I glanced at this title and thought that + sign was a 4 and was shocked and impressed that goldfish would make a 24 hour life gain video.

[@JimPea]

I know this is a three colour deck, but I really think it would benefit from a copy or two of Fomori Vault. Once you start making copies and maps it basically tutors for cards.

[@Itsveryover]

Standard turbo fog essentially.

[@JayoticMTG]

I’ve never seen a game go to time on Arena, that first game was impressive haha

[@MACATK-ph9bu]

Seth, in pioneer Cornucopias may ability is very relevant in niv to light, since bring to light casts what you grab it triggers Cornucopia, you decline to gain 2 off of bring to light and gain 4, or 5 off of omnath or niv mizzet

[@nickbeauchamp1198]

I woke up with this video on my phone, freaky stuff Seth

[@superwill1238]

I’m calling this deck Cornicopium, and you can’t stop me

[@AtrociousNightmare]

You truly are the jank master. I adore you.

[@AesirOdinn]

The title is wild! I love it

[@DiogoVKersting]

I think it's not a problem that they made it a may ability. The problem is Arena not having a way to say "always yes" to a may ability. Changing the cards from may to must is the lazy solution.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, if Arena had the "always yes" option like MTGO it would solve the problem.

[@Goldy01]

Imho they should add an option to say "always yes" until end of turn, if the same effect triggers two or more times!

[@franciscovieira6469]

You mentioned milling first a few times, but don't forget that looping 2 endless detours can make your library infinite

[@colecarmichael5724]

I love and support this type of content 😊

[@swag-mexico-gucci]

As someone who regularly falls asleep to these videos, I hope my phone doesn't die overnight!

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

The Card I want to see Rotate most? The Triomes, I love em and I like Mana being good in standard but it's a bit too good these days.

[@jeffbezos4352]

Genuinely gonna fall asleep to this thanks

[@MikeRotondo]

unbelievable that he does a “cornucopia…ing” bit in the first game without hitting on “cornucopying”

[@joegeomancer6978]

S tier video name. Great work as always.

[@1234DJG]

millennium calendar would go crazy in this deck

[@TheDylls]

"To Fall Asleep To" I see you sneaking in those search terms for extra views (and I love it 😅❤)

[@joshuajordan6632]

this would have been the perfect deck to win with the Millennium Calendar!!!

[@jjohansen86]

"What's the deck's win con?" "The clock."

[@hugmonger]

You could say Seth is gaining a Corni-Copious amount of life.

[@Deargo_Prime]

thanks seth

[@herbertwiley]

A couple of weeks ago, Seth was all in on the Dopplegang plan. With the mana this deck can generate, casting a Dopplegang for 3 or 4--even as much as 6--is easily possible. For a decent finishing move, how about White Sun's Twilight for x = a heck of a lot? Once all other creatures are gone, enough 1/1s with toxic 1 should remain to end the game the next turn. Incidentally, this is probably the deck that would get you banned from playing it at your LGS. edit a day later: no Void Rend? It's a 3-color, instant-speed, uncounterable, destroy target nonland permanent--seems like a great addition since this deck has so much mana in any color.

[@EffinChat]

You know its a good against the odds concept when the setup depends on resolving a 7 mana bomb in order to copy a dollar rare

[@FlawlessRythym]

@29:30 I love that it's a may ability because life gain is all fun and games until someone drops a Tainted Remedy on you. Lol.

[@paulturner9729]

My guess is that Cornucopia is a "may" because there are situations where you want to sequence a monocolor spell before a multicolor spell on the same turn, and it would feel kinda bad to miss out on the full lifegain. Maybe not worth the hassle though!

[@edgar9500]

been watching this video before i sleep. its been 3 days and still cant stay awake to finish the video 💀

[@BibboTheFirst]

I’ve got a commander deck that is all about copying all the fallout bobble heads. In a Simic twin casters deck. It’s trying to do the exact same thing as this deck and it is hilarious and fun.

[@gaminggeckos4388]

I feel like it might be worth throwing in a Worldsoul's Rage, Light up the Night, Shivan Devastator, and/or Goldvein Hydra.

[@user-yl6mk2ck5k]

Seth in the first game you had 1 more turn after the helm because you can use endless detour to get back sunfall from your graveyard.

[@Dsmky117]

Hoo boy it’s a long one

[@user-jm5lr8xc5z]

30:00 If I remember correctly, there's an old card called "Lich", that basically transforms taking damage into discarding cards and life gain into drawing cards. Maybe there's more effects like that?

[@HeyRyanLetsPlay]

The reason that it is a may is so that you can cast your 1 or 2 color spells in the turn without gaining life before casting the 4 color / 5 color spell that you do want to gain life on.

[@garethNP]

When i saw the 2 hour video i thought it was MTGGoldfish replay but it keeps flashing on my recommended and was surprised its Against the Odds haha

[@WhatTheHeckIsAGoodChannelName]

You might as well have added an aetherflux reservoir as a life payoff. There’s also a moon folk Druid who grows and scrys whenever you gain life

[@hugmonger]

25:00 I am enjoying Seth's Ancient Cornucopia Podcast

[@coreysierchio4650]

I see Seth was inspired by Sam's video about Lantern Control, lol. *Thanks for the Content!*

[@piralos1329]

Cornucopia is a may ability because you can only do it once each turn - so if you cast a 1c spell, and then follow up with a 3c spell, you can decline the first life gain to instead gain from the second spell!