2 men charged in fatal construction site trench collapse in Vernon

[@MikeRthe1]

FOR ALL YOU YOUNG BUCKS: If your boss ever says some shit like “we play the odds” fucking run.

[@babywah3290]

I thought that was a callous thing to say when it doesn’t include his personal life. I hope they use that against him in court.

[@WyattEmge]

And call every authority you can to investigate. No playing when it comes to people lives.

[@keithwhittaker5238]

Helped rescue guys extract a young guy trapped by his legs in a 2 foot deep trench ….the trench was only just above his knees and the concrete slab rolled into trench trapping him and was lucky to save his legs . . Point is the trench doesn’t need to be mega deep to kill / injure. Was a big wake up call to me .

[@SuperDarkrock]

As a safety, you have zero excuses not to have used a trench box, that's why I keep two logbooks, one for you, and one for the court.

[@SpidermansSymbiote]

But it would have cost too much money and cut into profits!

[@dennisdill9433]

I was a laborer and later on an equipment operator,and I can tell everyone that usually the mentality is (" we bid this job close so you guys need to hurry the hell up" ) management for the most part do not want to spend the time or money to do underground utilities safely ,which in turn means slowly. all they ask at the end of each day is "how much pipe did you get in today" .and let me tell you it's never enough.anytime you get in a big hurry underground you or someone else most likely will pay the price.i used to dig my ditches where I would feel safe going in.and if management didn't like my speed I would just tell them . "I want these guys to go home to their babies tonight " end of story

[@bunnyman6321]

Damn

[@BobbyStanaland]

I say, ''if you don't like this speed, you are not going to like my other speed."

[@777SI-gsw]

If the company is make or break on a single job needing a trench box, you should find another job. We got work booked solid for the next two and a half years minimum.

[@cyoung2345]

​@@BobbyStanaland Yup I can show you better than I can tell you, turtle mode real quick

[@wize1100]

No trench box ... They are despicable ppl .

[@freddieenriquez5355]

Too many business owners could care less about the safety of their employees, including corporations.

[@blackf350]

Remember your boss pays you not to be able to afford to live in his neighborhood so don't put your life in his hands when he short cuts safety on the job.

[@777SI-gsw]

If you have ever done any dirt work you know how heavy that dirt is. For the uninitiated a single cubic yard of dirt is a couple thousand pounds, damp dirt will be more. A trench collapse is usually going to be several yards of dirt falling. If the company won’t use a trench box, don’t get in the ditch.

[@BobbyStanaland]

Remember you young guys, you can STOP the job. If you see anything that's not safe, stop the job. If that don't work, call OSHA. A contractor does not want OSHA on the job site. OSHA will not go on the site unless they are called, but if they are called they can inspect the entire job site.

[@DamascusSteel-j1f]

Yet remember those who came before you who fought for the rights you have to be treated like a human being and not an animal. You owe us and your children to fight to keep the rights we win for you.

[@BobbyStanaland]

@@DamascusSteel-j1f My grandfather was killed in an embankment cave-in 1933. I never knew him. I am very sensitive to watching for trench work.

[@DamascusSteel-j1f]

@@BobbyStanaland glad to hear it. I’ve been fired many times for standing up for worker safety and I always sue the flip out of them for it

[@Yeakerr]

There are many workers reading this knowing they have done the same thing many times because the hard ass boss says get that blankety blank trench dug now quit screwing around or go home.

[@terryken12]

Yes I have done this many times but when I did nobody got in that hole but me.

[@JamesBunn-b3w]

Who ever was on site and in charge is 100% responsible for what happens on site , poor excuse for a forman . Worker safety should always, ALWAYS first priority

[@lorettahookano6139]

Negligent Homicide, I was almost buried in the same kind of situation, Sue um & lock um up !

[@shawnweir8426]

I do this kind of work and while the company is somewhat responsible for not complying with safety standards,you still have a responsibility to yourself and your family to protect yourself. He should not have went back in that trench.

[@Tempssavage]

You can sue them for safety violations

[@shawnweir8426]

Doesn't help dead people

[@nofilter.906]

Then the boss would tell him to find another job.....that's how this type of employers are....

[@duck0fdeathc336]

I’m gonna be a prick here the victim was 56 . I’m guessing he was a crew boss working by himself that tells me he should be competent to judge if he needs a box or not. If he requested one n his boss refused I feel like this change is justified but if he was fine working without one I feel like he gambled with his life and sadly lost not really the owners fault

[@cisco95021]

Shady contractors just care about making money as quickly as possible. They will knowingly conduct illegal work until they get caught. And don't be surprised if they shut down the business and start another business under a relatives name and different company name. The contractors own words will be used against him to send him to prison.

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

Gotta cut every corner to compete with the illegals.

[@ScarCaskt]

Money has more value than people 🤷

[@willsmith2730]

😊😊

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

Always has, and always will.

[@Viking102938]

Max sentence, shouldve been tried as murderers

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

You're why our justice system is a joke.

[@mellotone713]

@@user-zu5do6ri6r You, and your failure to comprehend that one person’s opinion doesn’t sway the law are the joke.

[@micace9554]

@@user-zu5do6ri6rgrow tf! Karma will get you!

[@neckarsulme]

tragic as it is, why would someone work in a situation like that? I've told employers that no, I'm not going to perform a certain task if it is not safe....no job is worth your life

[@fatalberti]

old dudes should know this sht and never compromise safety. trench safety measures are not that tough.

[@siriosstar4789]

enter go back and check the quality of the houses these scum have built . if they cut corners in trench safety , they probably do it during the construction phase

[@WTW994]

All those cookie cutter neighborhoods the houses are complete junk.

[@theresehopkins1581]

They "played the odds" when it came to safety..... 😳🙏💔

[@VerissimusAurelius]

Where are the inspectors??? Condemning after the fact is one thing...don't you have some sort of oversight??

[@joesanchez2368]

"i guess we play the odds" = "i guess YOU play the odd"

[@traceychevreuil8516]

Just digging graves when you do it wrong!

[@MontyRoyal963]

Another one to look out for is under maintenanced equipment... Some cheap mfers out there.

[@EarlGrass]

Crooked like the companies in Lincoln Maine

[@PP-rq7ly]

I've heard from construction workers themselves that that's very common here in the USA. The uncommon thing is that the victims this time were NOT hispanic.

[@GnarGnarAdar]

I build tower cranes in Miami. My crews crane fell out the foundation in Delray. Different company had a tower section break off the crane durning a climb catapults 1 man 45 stories. Water balloon effect when he hit the concrete. Rumors had it they're trying to say it was a freak accident but lack of safety since he wasn't tied off is the thing

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Mexicans know how to haul A. And I've SEEN them do stuff like this! More than once! On their own. Nobody told them to do it or forced them. Roofers are the worst. I've seen them run up a peaked roof with no line on. I've seen them go from a 2.5 floor landing to top of 2 story peaked roof--NO safety! They think it makes them less manly, or something. I've known Poles to do stuff like that, too.

[@maestrovso]

The report says they didn't have any trench box but yet they show a photo with one. 8 feet deep trench without trench box borders on criminal. I dug a 3 feet utility trench and I didn't feel safe working in it.

[@CurtisEWipe]

56 year old man didn't know enough to not get in that hole? He's partly to blame. Sorry, not sorry.... especially after the trench already collapsed twice. What a shame.

[@jjmaguire8281]

What ive learned it's usually small business owners who cut corners to save money... Anywhere they can save a dollar they will, even if it means someone could get killed....

[@matthewf2425]

Another example of people putting money before the lives of others

[@russell-di8js]

If any1 says Health & Safety is the Nanny state, take a look at your gran & ask her how old she is? Dennis Slater RIP

[@mvr89rodriguez44]

It's not murder everyone working on that job site the way it was knew the danger

[@philm5147]

Wow he got 45 days in jail ! Pathetic!

[@daleolson3506]

Should not take a year

[@prooveditt4839]

Wonder if they would play the odds gambling with their life

[@mikedrones537]

Or their kids lives….

[@nofilter.906]

So many people disregard safety, they put COST and TIME above safety of people.....once as a young man I jacked up the front of my car in my garage,,,I removed a tire,,( no jack stands because they were in the back yard storage and I was to lazy to go get them,). I jacked up the car,took the tire off,,,stood up to get my tools,,,in that instant, my jack failed,,car crashed to the ground landing on. The caliper....the old jack just ,,failed,,gave out,,,,I was just about to get on my back and get under the car....no one was home...I could have EASILY DIED........point is,,,SAFETY FIRST.....if your employer doesnt see things that way,that clearly means YOUR SAFETY IS SECOND TO HIS WANTS..,,,and to say it crudely, your employer doesnt give a fcuk if you get hurt ...

[@ToddBrooks-o5m]

Well where the hell were the town inspectors ?? Where the hell was OSHA ?? Who 6

[@stevenspace]

Osha doesn’t just show up typically. Someone needs to call

[@vancoy]

They were making sure people had 6 ‘ and masks on 🤦‍♀️ cheaper to pay the fines than be safe daily

[@ratfink5749]

City inspectors in small towns and counties typically only inspect what is done. Not HOW it is done.

[@psychebucc7544]

Osha can't even pick up the phone and their voicemail inbox is full

[@brianwarner308]

intent not intense Mr. Closed Captioning...

[@Mr.Beverly]

“Don’t have what you need? I don’t care, make it work!”

[@DwightStJohn-t7y]

CITY employees had NEW trench boxes standing not used. It's not like theyi were some illegal underground economy sub contractor. Construction as an industry has NO layalty or long term planning with people, so this is what you get.

[@dwilli3660]

I guess we play the odds turns it into first degree murder if you ask me

[@BaffinSailor]

Then they want to know why no one wants to work construction any more. A holes that the owners is why.

[@carrollbridges6427]

These old dogs wanted to keep doing things they told way like we did it in the 80s and early 90s but things have changed and u have to change with them times. I did it old school for many yrs and we never used a box

[@StraightToTheAve]

These men made millions off labor

[@lesliewiggins8710]

It didn’t have to happen

first degree charges is insane. THANKS.

[@GTAGta-vi5vc]

8x8 trench is pretty damn wide and can be kept safe

[@curtriedel5036]

You have no idea what you're talking about

[@Jason-bs2wc]

All it takes is a 4ft deep trench to collapse on you crush you your dead 8ft deep tell me you've never done dirt work with out telling me. 8ft deep needs to be benched 2 or three times so 16 to 24 ft bench to be safe depending on type of material being dug mr know it all

[@curtriedel5036]

The only ways it's kept safe is 1. Using a trench box, 2. Sloping, 3. Shoring, 4, digging a bell hole around it, etc

[@maestrovso]

From a man never pick up a shovel. 🤔

[@keijulkyl]

Replacements are lined up on our southern border.

[@frenchbulldogdad1003]

For 1/3 the cost.....but along with them are 10's of thousands of criminals waiting to steal everything. Biden/Harris open border 💩💩show!

[@EarlGrass]

Nooooo good

[@shari9721]

Im sorry but if he went back in the trench after if had already collapsed twice that say alone then it's his own fault . smdh

[@babywah3290]

Employers still liable for not only allowing this but forcing him to be in that trench.

[@kennethsouthard6042]

Let's follow your logic, guy number one walks off the job as the trench collapsed twice on him, then workers hires guy number three who it collapses on.

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

We all know worker number 3 had it coming.

[@bigbishop9081]

@@kennethsouthard6042worker number #1 calls OSHA and make a “life threatening hazard” complaint, jobsite is shut down & business owner is in DEEP SHIT. Problem solved. I hope that young man rests peacefully.

[@mikedrones537]

Losing your job is definitely scary until you see the trench collapse. Then you’re playing the odds.

[@KCBluesJams]

Get ready for no OSHA in trump’s America 🇺🇸👎so they can try and save a few dollars 💵

[@PaulEdwards-s6x]

Just stop. Trump is not getting rid of OSHA.

[@MLSPlatforms]

Another uninformed idiot!

[@b.ruthdeerfield9856]

Protect our Libraries and Bookstores before Trump ruins all our best LITERATURE. prevent Ray Brad Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 454.

[@richarddavis8863]

I love your 70's Bohemian look 💖

[@mikedrones537]

Well people like you with have to stay on the dark web to look at your ch*ld p+rn.

[@davidcarruthers5850]

on another note here, I , me.. would have refused to go in to that trench..