2 New AI vs 6 Old AI

The new Extreme AI is pretty good, but can 2 of them take on 6 of the old CD version AI?
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Game: Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, with Forgotten Empires, African Kingdoms, Rise the Rajas, and Last Khans expansions

[@MeGustaR00sta]

Blue: “Sir, they have us outnumbered three to one!” Red: “Then it is an even fight.”

[@stylesrj]

To be fair, the Elites were operating the Covenant M1 Abrams compared to the T-34's equivalents the Brutes were using... so to the Shipmaster it would be an even fight.

[@johnpepper8603]

I just have to say first answer that came into my mind : Stupid rebellion then.

[@JonatasAdoM]

Also don't forget about my wood.

[@espi371]

All Barracks spam Gothic Champions, swarm their mongrel hives.

[@espi371]

*ALL UNITS*

[@v.h4001]

can't wait for the "2 spirit of the law versus 6AI" video

[@KleberDKurosaki]

I've seen that type of meme in other RTS game related channel =^)

[@MALEMization]

Spirit+TheViper+DauT+Fatslob vs 8 AI! (I forgot if a map can hold 12 players or not)

[@Kortexual]

I would guarantee the human players would wipe the floor against 8 ai. Spirit of the Law could probably take on 4 by himself lol.

[@MALEMization]

@@Kortexual Even the Elite ones?!

[@skumomcbee1255]

(slight reverb) Hey guys, I just cloned myself so I could test out the Definitive Edition AI, You can tell which one is the real Spirit because he's better, or..wait...

[@Skaitania]

1 and 2: How I wish I could play. 4 and 5: How I think I can play. 3, 6, 7 and 8: How I actually play.

[@chrisgray8713]

@@topaz173 same :(

[@avwmedia3951]

Topaz even that Franks could destroy me easily by itself 🙂

[@eccentrichorse11]

Frank Old Ai: Goes full on beries Spirit: Oh it is using the faster collection bonus Me: I dont think that was intentional

[@Kevin-wx7wu]

Yeah it's just a coincidence it happened to be franks, it always does that

[@m4st3rm1nd9]

@@Kevin-wx7wu True. It's just the default go to when you don't have sheep.

[@xarin42]

pretty sure spirit was aware of it too XD

[@Kevin-wx7wu]

@@xarin42 yes he should, he made a point of it in the old ai vs hd ai(huns mirror match) video

[@bruno-vs2cm]

Caloricsleet94 aoe2 definitive. Call me

[@ShadowChozo]

It took 20 years, but the AI finally learned to not throw whole armies into castles like the Somme was running out of fashion. Progress!

[@rainbowevil]

It now just prefers a light tickling from the castles, before running away again!

[@Toopa88]

@AlexNOSAM What's the meaning of that "computer science major"-term at the end of your comment? In case you used it to strengthen your "point": you didn't say anything technical.

13:06 If you look at the minimap, you can see that poor red sheep finally fulfilled her duty and was called back home. "And now her watch is ended." F

[@HeliosExeunt]

Good catch. I wanted to ask but saw this. Looks like the sheep actually made it all the way back too.

[@eclipsez0r]

It's an he

[@HECKproductions]

her?? no girls in the watch dude

[@kishi8774]

good one! i forgot about the sheep lmao

[@voxkine9385]

“It’s quite vocal about getting resources....” Yea, and the AI can go chop its’ own wood! Gave the AI 4K wood and it asked for more 2 min later...

[@Irondragon1945]

You dense madman thats not the kind of wood it had in mind.

[@cmbeadle2228]

@@Irondragon1945 dear penthouse, I didn't know it would ever happen to me but I wad astonished when the AI of Age of Empires made flirtatious advances towards me....

[@derpidius6306]

@@Irondragon1945 When they said intelligent AI was dangerous, this wasn't what I had in mind

[@caseblue2232]

There are never enough woods

[@nightmare4eVerr1]

These comments are what i love most

[@josueromerotorrico4453]

Cuauhtemoc did his best trying to carry all this noobs.

[@Im_pieta]

you could say he was doing his berry best.

[@ricardobautista-garcia8492]

yup.

[@nick0653]

The Eagle Warrior rush was one of the few times the new AIs had to fully break off their attacks to coordinate a proper counter for that.

[@r1pp3rr0]

27:55 treb going through a closed gate because yes.

[@MrGollum1996]

Alessandro P. Wow didnt even notice it first time i watched lol

[@NicholasEzclapz]

Advanced *T E C H N O L O G Y*

[@mr.epigone]

22:35 a magyan hussar passes a closed gate as well. blue probably is wallhacking

[@varunmanjunath9123]

It is secretly a T-1000... *Trebuchet-1000* O_o

[@smansab59]

The cavalry too, when blue attacks gray's gates.

[@tvremote9394]

we all have a green ai in our personal lives - that nonchalant person who's utterly disinterested in what's happening around them, just want to focus on their own life without a care of anything else while everyone else is running around and fighting each other for success in life

[@stefancristi2493]

No need to worry about my username, that’s me.

[@belland_dog8235]

I mean yeah, that's pretty much what I do

[@LuckyAJC]

Meeeeeee

[@jonsnow3919]

“Green, green, what’s your problem green?”

[@nofanfelani6924]

They just want a quite peaceful life, sadly the game didn't let them have it.

[@SneedEnjoyer]

22:35 "Yea they gonna get through that gate in not too long" *AI just walks through*

[@cfv7461]

pal, what an eyesight

[@AortexSP]

Did he phase in lmao

[@dominikmagnus]

just passing

[@Sesshomaru474]

@1234 Blue: You saw nothing!

[@Kasperskytron]

18:44 love that 40 minute imperial-age militia

[@johanbee8757]

Nice eye, took a while to notice it.

[@matheuswagner5198]

Took down a Onager by himself, true hero.

[@EdwardNavu]

Mungo the Mangonel meets its match... or is it?

[@dominikmagnus]

- Mom, can we have champions - We have champions at home Champions at home:

[@arjunnava]

12:18 "Those walls. Thats some weird AI there.. its only going to delay" Me: Walls in front of villagers makes them feel safe and be more productive. dont judge ......

[@thompsonvac2896]

SOTL has such a buttery voice and I love it

[@ryankaiser2702]

Makes you wonder what he’ll sound like when he’s eating a steak

[@20the20]

for real, i just found this guy and i wish he would narrate all the games i watch

[@torinjones3221]

He talks to slow. I have go watch on 2× speed

[@derlou88]

Torin Jones he is talking quite fast and clear

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@torinjones3221 At leas you can speed, I can't slow down fast talkers.

[@devangnivatkar2649]

I love it when the AIs ask for all resources simultaneously and it ends up sounding like 'fold please!' /s

[@niccolom]

Blue: There's six of them and two of us. Red: LET'S GO MUG'EM!

[@zjoee]

VLDL for life!

[@ottomanpapyrus9365]

Here is what really impressed me about the updated AI: -The AI strategies include various rushes -Sheep scouting -Lures deer with scout - Will walk through holes in your wall to raid your town -go around your castle -Kite archers in groups What really took me off-guard.. is that the AI will send a villager to repair mangonels. I had to double-check that I wasn't fighting a human opponent While the updated AI still got some of the original AI's flaws (like still never walling and spastic against trushes)I never in my wildest dreams would have predicted such a vastly improved AI.

[@FinetalPies]

Oh shit yeah the intro is back ;o; Worth the wait for that new DE footage. Can't wait to watch the intro build up over time all over again

[@dark_mage2]

My favourite strategy of the new AI is the strategic sheep patrol. And I loll'd so hard when the frank AI stone walled his own lumberjacks. Whatever AI lacks in finer logic, it more than surpasses with multi-tasking and macro-management.

[@donxnik]

He knows something we Don't

[@TheGreenMittenz]

I kind of want to see a 1v1 of AIs each with a human "ally" that can only use the commands to try and direct the AI to victory.

[@schmid1.079]

That could be really funny. :D

[@SlyAceZeta]

That would be really cool!

[@HansLemurson]

it would be an RTS played with an RTS! o.O

[@ObviusRetard]

someone should make a map as a 4v4, with a player on each side in a big fortress but with no way to build units or get eco, and 3 AIs each which the players have to direct against each other

[@ObviusRetard]

@@DefineReality it doesn't seem like you have to tell the ais all that much, certainly much less than when actually playing the game

[@benstephens4488]

Love the new intro can’t wait till you finish it

[@evvec1490]

isn't that Karambit intro version... Was use like 1-2 month Ago?

[@jcpkill1175]

@@evvec1490 You need to look at it again, and keep watching it. Over and over until you finally see it.

[@evvec1490]

@@jcpkill1175 what am i looking at? It Same as 1 or 2 month ago.. Edited* nvm

[@doodlestories3367]

it is beautiful

[@PressA2Die]

I've been playing around with the new A.I. and old. I enjoyed making random challenges for it. Like 1V7 but every time one of the 7 takes out a completed castle I torpedo that player. Or try to sabotage it by ordering its units around in a 1v1.

[@Walterion]

New intro in DE graphics! HYPE

[@Jonay1990]

Yet again, I'm watching someone watching a computer play against another computer...

[@DefineReality]

And that's not even including the fact that reality is simulated to begin with.

[@estebalstigopopoluz]

Hey man, i Read your comment on another video, funny running into you again 🙂

[@nofanfelani6924]

Imagine trying to destroy a stone building with volley of arrows.

[@kcnq2245]

Imagine succeeding

[@smallpseudonym2844]

_"Not at the towers! Aim for the trolls!"_

[@AbhishekNag666]

Okay bloodseeker.

[@CrnaStrela]

*Obsidian arrows intensifies*

[@asjoowjcs9858]

Karambitcoin's value going down instead of up like the old intro lol

[@Sunlight91]

I tested 6 vs 2 extensively with the HD AI and they always beat the original CD AI on pure land maps. It's different with water though where they tend to lose sometimes. The HD AI does especially well with ranged units, because they just send units into the general direction of the enemy and the range helps attacking actual targets.

[@Acount1100]

Spirit, could you try out the new AI commands by doing a 2v2 where the human players are only allowed to feed and command?

[@roflswamp6]

That would be amazimg id place bets on that

[@aerismagia8058]

That’d actually be really cool.

[@CongaYT]

8:46 Blue's getting so cocky, it's helping the enemy AI with their bear

[@Lunion4saken]

27:57 just a trebuchet sliding through a closed gate.

[@UltimateTobi]

*Gate is open for a sec* Trebuchet: Don't mind if I do. Edit: Oh wow it wasn't open indeed.

[@9I_3A6AHEH]

Green is building a wall at the edge of the map...

[@Zelinkokitsune]

They like doing that

[@HayashiKaiji]

It's to defend against the alternate dimension force.

[@TheGeoCheese]

Never know when that other Mongol force is coming. Best to be prepared.

[@CrnaStrela]

There's Mongol base from his northwest, what makes you think there won't be Mongol sneak attack coming from his flank?

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

"Must cover the void beyond spacetime with walls. Must hide the abyss. It... It keeps staring back." ~Green AI. Probably.

[@VikingofZach]

dad got me on original aoe almost 15 years ago, havent touched it for almost 10 years. Watching one of your videos got me to get definitive. Great vids man.

[@someguy3987]

NOOOOOO shortened intro? I love your old intro and never skipped it ;_;

[@Wockes]

riot!

[@sgtvoro]

@@Wockes Must agree. We need the long one.

[@poioio96]

I'll go back to my 10 hours loop after the video Or before, as intro? 🤔

[@smkay6381]

maybe he is working on remaking the intro on DE

[@poioio96]

@@smkay6381 well, the Goth Gameplan has HD grass now, so sounds good :D

[@MakoWoman]

Awesome video! Cool to see an updated intro, and watching AI match-ups is really interesting!

[@Binarokaro]

This series is so good honestly, I can't wait to see more

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

1:25 The most important part of the video, in glorious modern graphics. Love it!

[@piotr7805]

The refreshed intro is neat, can't wait for more content ^^

[@iltruval]

The intro is back! And it's more beautiful than ever! Also, great video, thanks for everything Spirit.

[@Ahmed-kr2vx]

Aboslutely loved this! you need to do more of these

[@justrecentlyi5444]

Intro music! I'm so happy to hear it again :D

[@kgrgod]

Just what i was waiting for, ty

[@aligulluoglu5893]

i was waiting for intro for a long time !!!!!

[@tvremote9394]

the de intro!!! love it! but please don't shorten it, bring it back to the original length :(

[@evanrudibaugh8772]

The handling of walls by both old and new AI is weird. The old AI never linked their walls together - they'd leave all kinds of awkward no-man's lands between their allies. The new AI still gets super hung up about encountering walls. It sometimes seems to mass archers against a fortified wall... that they can just walk around.

[@ThomasJProd]

Love the new vs old videos. I've gotten back into playing AoE2 again and I'm glad I did.

[@Tonixman]

Nice job re-creating your intro! Was not expecting that!

[@S4SA93]

Super satisfying commentating aswell, you have a relaxing voice, do some more videos like this :P

[@Progeusz]

I loved how Franks went from no-militia-drush to stone-wall-off-your-own-lumber-camp to 50-minutes-imp and finally no-bracer-cav-archers

[@antoniojimenezpastor304]

As usual, great video! Always great to listen to you talking about AoE2 Btw: loving the new DE intro ;)

[@Dj3ndo]

Would love to see more of these with some different setups. I like it!

[@dejandavis4806]

These videos have been randomly suggested and now I’m addicted

[@lit3plumber12]

I think 1v4 would be a tense matchup. Hope you decide to do more of these, I'm thoroughly enjoying them.

[@Infarlock]

Would love to see New AI vs New AI vs 6 Old AI 3 teams

[@stephenh9483]

I love Spirit's new intro so much!!!! YES

[@ejga]

Finally the intro :D ... I hope that it'll become longer as more games are played and more highlights get clipped. I'm glad about the supremacy villager, the demo-ship, the goth gameplan and the lightsabers (which last too little though). I still need a couple insane onager headshots and some nice micro (and a horse-moonwalk if possible). I'd also love some broken-Steppelancers and respawning Konniks clips.

[@mambojambo4870]

You updated the Intro with DE graphics, love it!!!

[@xfi6658]

OMG THE NEW INTRO

[@zagzeg]

Liked because you put the intro song back in, even though it should be longer.

[@theisgood0]

I like this experiment :) its a game I grew up playing so its awesome to see someone be just as passionate. keep up the good work :D great videos.

[@Eon2641]

I feel like if the Franks had actually shown up the old AI may have stood a chance, those early eagles looked pretty dicey for a second but without any support they couldn't keep the pressure on

[@MrMaro1995]

Eagles were not Frankish. They were Aztec.

[@RikoZerame]

@@MrMaro1995 That's the point. The Frankish civ didn't throw any units out until well after everyone else was depleted. The old AI were all allied, so Tiger was saying that some support from the Franks would have let the Aztec Eagles Warriors keep up the pressure.

[@houndofculann1793]

Subbed for having the intro again!

[@BrownFoxWarrior]

12:03 Sounds like you said "evil warrior" But is it bad that I root more for the CD AI during these?

[@cfv7461]

bcs he tried to steal da sheep

[@ArbiterAK]

subtitles said that too

[@derekpaasch9167]

love your videos keep up the good work

[@blazedyoda8608]

It's really interesting to see you try and decipher some sort of meaning from the actions the AI do

[@Daxter250]

22:36 huh?! how the heck was the cavalry at the right gate being able to get through? O.o btw. the old a.i. rarely slings. in fact, when they die they just give all their ressources to the next teamplayer.

[@robertlister5192]

Love these videos we need you to play a game with you against a number of extreme new ai.

[@guilhermesartorato93]

8:05 There was a Scot having fun with her sister behind the tree, and she was awaiting her time. Now I understand the importance of walling the edge of the map. * _The things that come from the dark void_ *

[@deathpunch642]

Would love to see more all Ai battles!!

[@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860]

yay, definitive intro!

[@Eidenhoek]

6:03 ELEPHANT MONK NEW UNIT YESSSSS oh awwwwww New patch: Persian war elephants can convert other elephants to the cause!

[@mateomurseli4086]

hey man great vid, please make more vids like this with AI

[@M3atheadGaming]

Thanks for sharing, recently I`ve started playing aoe2 again and your videos are very useful !

[@psyjinx]

Haven't watched yet, but I'm so excited this got done.

[@xypezproductions5569]

Watched the 1v7 now this. I think it would be amazing with one where you did a 1v7 and 2v6 but where all the ai was the same exact nations/factions so that we can really see the difference in the ai. That way they have the same units stats and available buildings+ bonuses. What do you guys think? :)

[@Elbow78]

Living for the AI vs AI videos

[@irbz2252]

id like to see tons of these, 1 old and 1 new as a team, 2 new 1 old against 1 new all else old, and even just doing it again but picking the civilizations and making interesting comps, i really like these ai battles.

[@jcpkill1175]

22:35 "Pathfinding"

[@AgentNightfall]

I love watching your vids and I have never played any Age of Empires games Found your channel while looking for CoH stuff somehow

[@sherifhesham3733]

Oh my God he actually made the intro Thank you spirit ❤️

[@Thescott16]

Liking the HD intro remake!

[@Soldier842]

Spirit, can you do a video on how strong “All Tech” would be if it were a civilization?

[@adrianlim5144]

I was just finished watching the 1v7 video and you followed it up just now. I need a new cup of pop corn.

[@verinityvoid]

Came here cause AoE2 Definitive Edition videos were recommended to me, staying here for the diversity of content in relation to AoE2 (despite me only being familiar with AoE3). Also i would love to see more AI battles! These really fascinate me for some reason.

[@kuanittobonoparty3560]

DAMN! that new intro! sweet!

[@CustardCream515]

I don't know why youtube recommended a channel focussing on a game I've not played in 10 years but boy am I glad it did

[@Jovian999]

Loving the new intro, by the way.

[@napoleoncomplex2712]

I seem to remember having an easy time with the AI in my first campaign in HD against the Huns. Until I got to mission 4... the first mission where the AI gets to go imperial. At which point, the AI started churning out wave after wave of paladins and crossbows. The HD AIs and later seem to get particularly vicious once they hit Imperial Age.

[@nathanbarnes8535]

If it's the 4th mission on the Attila campaign, it's because the Franks in that mission use Chivalry, a tech which increases their stable output by 40%. Means they can churn out Paladins at will. Ridiculous.

[@TheGeoCheese]

Nathan Barnes challenge accepted I say. I’ll just throw spearman at them! Look at them quiver in fear!

[@chrisdelzell8467]

@@TheGeoCheese *watches their archers 'quiver' in fear*

[@someoneimportant6548]

The intro is back baby woooooooo

[@themitri8519]

12:51 the new AI is just like "I'm 15 moves ahead of you and everyone else"

[@ZenTeT]

i luv ai battles in rts games! means i can sit back with popcorn and watch :D

[@AnshumanFotedar]

The intro is baaaaaaaaaack! Yay!

[@jdkomododragon]

You did a video on the best civ pairings based on team bonuses. I'd love to see a similar one with optimal civ combinations for 4v4 games.

[@darylgraham4313]

Thank you for doing more Ai vs Ai, it's such easy watching. I have an appetite for more. Like do predicted civ wins actually happen in new Ai vs new Ai?

[@mjwarth]

22:37 anyone else see the hussar run straight through the gate?

[@benediktgeierhofer4146]

28:57 That poor trebuchet D:

[@ArchCone]

Really loved this love watching the AI red and blue kicked ass.

[@marcinheczko7521]

Beautiful new intro

[@GOTHICforLIFE1]

I mean i don't really play AoE, but for some reason i find it really fun when we see how computers solve issues :o Really interesting despite me not really knowing any tactics myself :D Keep it up! I'm subscribed!

[@princeimrahil6557]

He protecc He attacc But most importantly: THE INTRO IS BACC

[@Zawazuki]

This is exactly what we wanted to see.