2 Stroke vs 4 Stroke - 300 vs 300 - The Ride - Episode 240

[@DirtBikeChannel]

For all the haters out there, I AM revving the 4 stroke much higher than the 2 stroke. Trust me.

[@mustardproductions3531]

Wow, that new Sherco runs smooth! After years on a ktm 250F I may be crossing over to the 2T.. Our races are 1/2mx 1/2 tight woods. Ive grown lazy on the 4banger ...

[@dirtbikesicehockey4788]

Dirt Bike Channel can't please us all LOL 😋

[@rzski351]

Dirt Bike Channel C'mon Kyle, surely you will heed the advice of the KZbin pro riders. If only they were there to show you how a bike should be ridden..... Great video, awesome comparison between two obviously capable bikes. These nerds need to go catch up on some of your other riding vids, you and Sam are very talented riders and I respect and appreciate your opinions.

[@hamish2202]

Dirt Bike Channel I totally agrees with you the 4 stroke has to be up in the rpms it just won't lug they stall and if you floor it in low rpm they just stop

[@jackchegwyn4653]

Hamish Gibson not the motorcross 4 strokes I have a 250 four stroke motorcross bike and I can pull the throttle back in low revs and it doesn't bog down

[@katotoom356]

Cool dude. Comparing two bikes off the same cc but different motors is something that is finally a good comparison. Awesome work. .

[@edb3366]

I'm 230lbs and my, new to me, 2014 KTM 150sx smoker is a lot of bike. after riding smokers and strokers I feel there's something about the feel, sound and power delivery of a two stroke that invites you to step out of your comfort zone and push it even without you realizing the influence.

[@philwilliamson3370]

Agreed. The smokers just feel more alive underneath you.

[@MrFroggyMan]

Ed B yeah cause they vibrate a lot

[@larchpine9802]

I'm 47 and 230lbs and I bought a 2006 YZ144 last year because I wanted to have fun at my local motocross track. I was very worried about it having come from a 450f and 250 two-strokes... but man did I have a freaking blast on that bike last season. I felt like a freaking champ on it. So light and nimble and exciting to ride. It takes a lot more effort to go fast but gees it's exciting! So many people telling me I'd regret it because it's too small of a bike for my size... they have no clue what they're talking about. This bike hauls me around easily and if I push hard I can keep up to most anyone at the track until I tire out. Jumping it has been fantastic, too. Love it so much.

[@top10tokyodrifts79]

It seems more like hes riding the two stroke like a four i havent seen full throttle on the two stroke for more than an eighth of a second which he should be pinning it out of those turns into some of those strait sections

[@jameslabuschagne3542]

2 stroke for life😎😎😎

[@dean8067]

James Labuschagne You from South Africa perhaps?

[@abrienortje6400]

I am :D

[@jameslabuschagne3542]

i am from guateng

[@dean8067]

Abrie Nortje James Labuschagne​ Haha nice, I figured based on the surname. I'm from Pretoria

[@manbeastx69]

2 stroke till I die!!!!!!

[@waynekerr4141]

3 stroke

[@dean8067]

ktm 300 Rotary?

[@romteb]

I suspect the reason you're faster on the 2 smokes is that you ride the 4 strokes like a 2, engine breaking it much stronger on a 4 and the way you ride (giving a bleep of gas, freewheeling, bleep freewheeling, etc...) the 4 strokes will slow you down a lot unless you keep some gas going or clutch, i think you'd be much faster on the Sherco (than on the KT) if you didn't ride it like a 2 stroke.

[@dcfilms347]

romteb He should be faster if he rides it like a two stroke. Wide open!!!

[@Dero_milsurp]

Slow you down unless you clutch or stay on the gas? I suspect you don't have much experience riding a 4 stroke fast.

[@romteb]

I didn't say that the 4 stroke is better than the 2 stroke, i actually prefer 2 strokes calm down fanboys, but the geometry of the Sherco and the better traction of the rear wheel plus the smooth power should make it faster in this very specific twisty trail than the KTM whose superior power isn't of much use there and the understering front a nuisance, overall i would much rather have the 2 stroke if i needed to be fast on a diverse terrain enduro.

[@dcfilms347]

Bogan Bob Lol I don't even own a four stroke and I have been riding 2 strokes for 13 years.

[@Natedoc808]

Excellent video comparison with side by side, same rider, same trail which is familiar to you for both bikes and you are running them the way you feel is the best way to run them: a true heads up comparison compared to tons of other vids out there comparing bikes. Good work, keep it up.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

:)

[@tanyamarr7545]

I'm not a hater, just a 4 stroke lover. And I love the Dirt Bike Channel!

[@michaelsteven1090]

Great video Kyle..so interesting your thoughts on how you were feeling during the rides..As you remember, I've had a problem with the 2t bias on this channel, not from you directly, but from all the 4t haters that have gathered here..(can't wait to here all the haters just on that statement!) My problem is now I'm thinking of selling my 350 XC-F and getting the Sherco!..Thanks for keeping things real. This video proves that both 2t and 4t riders can ride what they love and still have respect for one another.

[@frankcrivaro7857]

it's very difficult to have a cut and dry answer to this debate . Kyle is correct it's all personal preference and Riding style / type of terrain/ race or play / skill level plays a big part new riders tend to feel safer on a 4 stroke .At the end of the day just have fun on what ever you ride

[@bradl45]

we are lucky to see these comparisons!!! Thanks for sharing

[@pappajnm]

Great video. I think the one thing that you didn't comment on is effort. On the sherco portion of the video you keep, what sounds like, an easy conversational tone and speech pattern. On the KTM side of the video you are speaking in broken sentences to catch your breath. Did you feel a difference in the effort on riding both bikes? I can ride my Sherco for 50 miles and NOT feel completely blasted while on my 2 stroke I feel worn out. I don't know if it is a 4T versus 2T thing. Sure I like to be fast but I also like getting home from a ride and having enough energy left for honey do's around the house.

[@ClayGGOR]

Good point. One thing I hear a lot from racers is that are definitely faster at the end of the race on the Sherco because it doesn't tire them out as much.

[@thanksskeletor4812]

Clay Stuckey yes I can confirm that the shercos are super good at working for you instead of against you. I've owned ktm's shercos and betas and the sherco bikes have been so far the smoothest and therefore fastest bikes in the tight sections, but to each there own. all fantastic machines.

[@heinrichvonkekelnazi393]

Papa J NM 2 strokes always take a lot more work to ride, as you have to keep the engine high in the rpm to keep going, which means your constantly squeezing peak power out of it, which then means you need to put more effort into controlling the bike.

[@maershkinschrabs7597]

4t=more torque per cc=less effort???

[@MotoMarv-Micahboy]

I need to know, what enduro dirtbike would be best for both enduro and MX? I'm tired of having multiple bikes, just want one bike to worry about now....🤔

[@larchpine9802]

Another fantastic video. Thank you very much. I really enjoy your presentation skills as well.. smart, calm and well thought out.

[@jamacado2142]

Brilliant comparison Kyle. Great work as usual

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Awesome back to back!

[@javier90gonzalez87]

dude this is a very good video in the way it show the power and handling grate job man

[@willscruggs2380]

One editing tip I want to make for your future videos like this is try panning the audio to the speaker that matches the bike you are on. Even though you turned up the volume on the KTM side, it is still hard to focus more on it with the other audio going. By panning the audio to the far sides, with headphones on you can just take one or the other out and have clear audio for both bikes at the same time. For the comparison, the big difference I have noticed for making up time could be in the motors. The four strokes have a much stronger engine break than the two strokes when letting off the throttle which can slow you down without really realizing it. The two stroke glides more into corners and the best way to replicate that on four strokes is to have the clutch pulled in. That could be what's making the difference in this side-by-side. It is hard to tell though.

[@johnathanyinger]

It seems like the Sherco has too quick of steering, causing you to counterbalance as you turn. It is more noticeable on the Sherco than the KTM.

[@javier90gonzalez87]

and got to love that two stroke just that beautiful sound

[@dannyphillips8280]

I was suprised how light the sherco is, even on paper its lighter than a 2 smoker. They have a niche with the 300 sef, great bike.

[@kaesaikrasun4720]

Fun video. Thanks for the upload. I ride a YZ125.

[@mr.workhardplayhard6550]

I totally thought at the end when the credits were running (10:01) you were trying to look back to see yourself on the Sherco LOL

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Now, that would be cool!

[@sammyscrap]

Did you control for other factors besides the bike? For instance, you rode the Sherco first, so how familiar were you with the trail? If you already knew every corner by heart it makes for a more fair comparison, but if it was your first time riding it on the Sherco than you really can't take anything away from the comparison.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I know the trail well.

[@dansums7677]

Where did you order that cyrca skid plate? I am having a hard time finding one for the 17 300xc. hope you can help thanks.

[@6stroker]

we take 2 300 EXC PPI and in the middle a piston charger,so we have a EXC 600 TPI with the lubrication like a 4-stroke because the gas must not go through the crankcase

[@nicholaszakrajcek9704]

I feel like your more nimble and quicker on the ktm but on the sherco, you are able to control it a little easier because the ktm has just that tiny bit more grunt. Great video like always

[@tigersdl65]

Do you, or anyone else have any ideas about the Sherco 300f versus a KTM 280f. I've done the big bore install on my 250f and love it. Just wondering if 20cc would really make a difference (I know 30cc did).

[@hobidolap]

it would be great idea, to count the total number of gear shifts for the trail, of each bike...

[@louismx3381]

great video. keep up the great work 👌👌

[@madman432000]

How many times did you ride each bike through the same course? Ride and film each through the same course 10 times in a row then compare total times. Or did you do that before filming for the record.

[@jaydensdream714]

I'll take the 5 second lap difference if the sherco feels that much more rideable. Seems like day could be less physical more fun?

[@uw4ntsum342]

2-strokes are just a pain in the ass to maintain even though I love em'.

[@450rmaniac]

Dirt Bike Channel, can you give an update on the tubliss systems you have been running. Any big issues or complaints with their products? Thanks for the videos Kyle.

[@dirtbikesam]

We put Tubliss on every bike we have and yet to have any issues with it.

[@rjhender25]

Dirtbike Channel Same Here Tubliss on both bikes. Zero issues

[@450rmaniac]

Thanks guys!

[@jordangreenland9189]

What about testing the Sherco 300 vs the Ktm 250 xc. A little more even on horsepower and I know you’ve said before that you are probably faster on the ktm 250 than the 300. Do you think the gap would be even larger on a more bike with a more manageable throttle for us non superhuman riders?

[@TheOfficialKC]

Speed, whatever. Which one is more fun? Though in the end, the chance of me finding a Sherco for sale and in my price range is basically zero.

[@jessegrossert]

Not the right conditions for this test. I have a late model 300 XC-W and I rode a tight and fast forrest trail on it and then jumped on a 300 4T and that's where the 300 was shinning. I was much more confident with less power, thus quicker on the 4T

[@Nonplused]

2 strokes are on the way out due to your friendly neighborhood EPA. For some reason they think a 250 cc engine has to have the same emissions ratios in parts per million as a 5 liter engine, even though it's getting way better mileage. The fact that a 2 stroke burns lubricant and doesn't always burn all the fuel makes this pretty hard to do. Eventually, there will be no more 2 strokes and we'll all be rev'ing the piss out of 4 strokes. I learned this by reading about all the troubles Kawasaki had putting fuel injection on the KLX 250. I learned that according to the rules, old designs were "grandfathered", so they couldn't get rid of the carburetor or they would have to move to current emissions standards, which even with fuel injection it took them a long time to figure out how to do. I understand the 2018 has it though. I don't mind the 4 strokes, but the two things I miss about 2 strokes is the joy of the power band and the ease of doing engine work. I suppose messing with the valve chain isn't the biggest deal in the world, but rebuilding the top end of a 2 stroke is so simple. Oh and the sound. 2 strokes sound awesome. A big 4 stroke sounds like someone is shooting a Gatling gun. Anyway, the simple fact is that when trail riding, most people don't use much of the available horsepower very often. It's not like on the track where horsepower and lightweight win races. For most people, rev'ing the piss out of a 4 stroke will get you along just as fast, and you'll have about or more horsepower than a 2 stroke that is turning at half the rpm, even at equal displacement. It's just if you actually need that extra 10 hp that the 2 stroke shines. I never do at my age, but if you like to climb steep hills or getting big air the 2 stroke is the superior machine at equal displacement. But at my age I'd just hurt myself. I do wish the government would just chill. A 250 2 stroke isn't killing the atmosphere. And when the 4 strokes valve seals go, they make just as much smoke. For a while, a lot more until the engine dies or gets rebuilt. I had a Honda XL650 for a while and the valve seals went. Holy freaking smoke batman! No 2 stroke could do that! Well I suppose it could if you mixed the fuel at 15:1.

[@bradrainey8204]

could you do a review of all the gear you wear ? p.s love the videos man that 300 2 smoker kicks

[@OldDirtGuy]

Looks like Rabbit Valley or whatever they call the Utah side. It looked to me like you were stumbling a bit on the two stroke from riding the four stroke for a few weeks. Early on you were also riding the KTM in a lower hear than you were on the way back. I bought a 2017 300 XC and have only ridden it once back in October, in MN. I have been in France ever since. I noticed that, compared to the YZs that I have been riding for several years, that the KTM is gear pretty low. I click that thing in forth and leave it there most of the time. I leave my buds for dead.

[@xtrackdayx]

Agree on the gearing, have a 2015 300 xc, but when I bought it used, the previous owner had put a -2 teeth smaller sprocket on back, but it works on trails, 3rd gear on single tracks most of the time.

[@bradleygoodrich5569]

Very good video, pretty honest comparison and yeah i would agree, you are not NOTICEABLY faster on the KTM. I need some new riding gloves, what styles do you like?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'm just a touch faster on the 2 stroke in this video, but it's very close. Both bikes were really good and I could be happy on either one long term. I'm just more of a 2 stroke guy in general because they are more fun to me.

[@td7122]

If you are used to riding 2 strokes, engine braking on a 4 stroke will kill lap times on more technical tracks and trails, you can be more careless shifting on trails with a 2 stroke.

[@sbenduroriders7923]

great job Kyle!

[@frostcold81]

how bout the KTM 350 xc-f VS Sherco 300 sef-r?

[@RobertStock2]

I haven't ridden a 2 stroke in a few years but it just doesn't sound like it's in the power band. If it's not just the sound of the bike being different, try using your lower gears to keep it up in the power band, even on an up shift you should stay in it.

[@MrFroggyMan]

Robert Stock it doesn't have to be if he was he'd probably be going too fast for the section he's in

[@KamilKubik43]

I would love to see Sherco 300 SEF-R compared to KTM 350 EXC-F

[@dementedspirit1359]

trees? all i see are bushes lol. good video kyle preciate it, be careful out there

[@number1726]

Hay man great video i loved it.. Could you maybe try to do a 250 4t vs 250 2t in the future.. Thank you.

[@wholetur4947]

a 150 2t is more on par with peak power of a 250f while a 250 2t has a closer area has heaps more peak.

[@tl5108]

whole tur well wouldn't the same be true for the 300 s, but look how close they are

[@BAMBAM3316]

The last time I rode a 4T it coughed and died on throttle chop steering out of a failed hill climb, the magic button was useless and took forever to clear the flood. It was a cushy couch ride on the way up though. I'll stick with my 26 year old 2T for now. Way easier on the Oh Shit factor.

[@stingraytube9087]

I'm a four stroke fan I also ride two strokes and in my opinion riding a two stroke makes you work more on trails while four strokes are always more comfortable making you push and try less

[@jasonmacmurchy476]

Dirt Bike Channel would love to see you get your hands on a Beta 2t to compare with the KTMs!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Beta coming soon.

[@rjhender25]

Dirt Bike Channel sold my KTM 300 xcw and am now on a Beta 300 RR Race Edition. I AM IN LOVE!!!! like the Sherco. feels more nimble and the power is sooooo smooth. Dont get near as tired riding. Just my 2 cents

[@dirtbikesicehockey4788]

The KTM probably was faster because doesn't a 4 stroke need almost double the engine size to match that of a 2 stroke.? Great job tons of info. 👍👍👍

[@MotoMarv-Micahboy]

Wow, great video! Your my new best friend!😁

[@802LGT]

Are these the eagle mountain trails?

[@ivanwilliams7679]

i built my own 300 4 stroke started with a 2007 250 xcfw added a 300 thumper racing kit fmf exhaust clarke tank moto z tires exc kit key ignition from 640 ktm and behold its street legal

[@OifelOifel]

I envy you Kyle... No trails in Germany you can just ride for fun. :(

[@winelebury]

very interesting video.

[@EmilianoSalino]

Very nice video man! :) Can u tell me what microphone for your action cam do you use? Thanks :D

[@erikl85]

I think he stated previously that he just uses a proshot cam chin bar mount for his gopro, with the skeleton back, and that makes for great narration quality, since it's right at your mouth.

[@EmilianoSalino]

Thanks!

[@chrislalonde8180]

am I wrong but that looks like the 250xc not the 300 xc. the 300 had a fender decal and thought the hand guards where different on the 300 also

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Brother, I switched plastics on my bikes around a bit. Trust me, this is the 300 :)

[@GyroPyro121212]

Sounds to me like the Sherco 300 2T would be the ideal bike for you.

[@tacokiller101]

I think your side by side speed comparison is cool but I can ride the same trail over and over with the same bike and get different results every time. It's just not an accurate speed comparison imo

[@DirtBikeChannel]

This is all just for fun.

[@WholesaleTurbos]

you are riding the 4 stroke like the ktm, you will find the small bore 4 strokes need to be rev'd in this terrain.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Brother, I'm revving the bike 4k RPMs higher on the Sherco. Trust me :)

[@4stroke884]

Does the sherco have a hydraulic clutch too?

[@thanksskeletor4812]

4 stroke yes. brembo hydraulic clutch and brakes.

[@Caracc777]

All sherco,s has hydraulic clutch..,

[@thanksskeletor4812]

Ján Domko yes

nice stuff

[@Bcalhoun4423]

Which map where you using on the Sherco?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

The only one I care about... Full power :)

[@heinrichvonkekelnazi393]

I like that the KTM feels slower, but is actually quite a bit faster. This means that when you feel like you're really moving on the KTM, you're flat-out hauling ass.

[@randycarothers7654]

Watching he video shouldn't tell anyone which bike is faster. There are way too many variables. The rider isn't going to have the same times even if he's on the same bike.

[@thetrailwhale]

What is your cam setup for this video?

[@justinpeterson8754]

Of all the four strokes I've heard, the Sherco sounds the most like a wet fart. Haha!

[@tl5108]

Well if U rode ktm after the sherco, then u would have the trail fresh in ur mind, so ur gonna be a little more daring and faster since ur more familiar with the trail

[@chrislalonde8180]

awesome great vids

[@TheStrikkegenser]

Seems you cold ride the 4 stroke all day, but would need two dinners for riding the 2 stroke. You have a lot better rythm and flow on the Sherco, so my bet is that you would win on that if the race was a little longer.

[@gregmitchell6213]

All this shows is that both of these bike’s performance far exceed your abilities, and you have maxed out your abilities before both bike’s performance is maxed. In order to offer a fair comparison you need a rider who’s ability exceeds both bike’s performance limits.

[@rihs335]

for this track is fuly enaugtht 125 cc :)

[@bigals.ktms.9937]

i agree with bob the dealer , your defiantly not a 4 banger pilot in that terrain i would be easily faster on my 250excf 2016 than my 450.excf but good work on video could also come down to tire pressures so many variables to be seen. but at the end off the day 4 banger have come a long way since the XR 600 and 400.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

How can you say that? I run an almost identical time on both bikes :)

[@bigals.ktms.9937]

Dirt Bike Channel all i am saying probably if you spent as much time on 4 bangers as yours years on 2 strokes, in that tight twisty stuff the little sherco would be well out in front, and i am not a 2 stoke hater nearly all my years racing a grade enduros was on 2 strokes.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

That is just it. I've been spending much more time on this bike than any other bike for past month and it feels great.

[@lenbong1234]

In your 250xc vs 300xc you thought the 250 was faster but the 300 wasIn the 300 sef-r vs 300xc video you thought the 300sef-r was faster but yet again the 300xc was faster.... Maybe get a Sherco 300 2T to test against to 300XC...Your local bike shop must love you!!

[@ronnoc22803]

hey Kyle you should try the ktm 300 exc or 250 exc

[@Caracc777]

go to 51 rear sprocket and mx chain will be much faster on 300 4T.

[@Jay-gs5xg]

You didn't even open that KTM up!

[@Maicowerk]

I own those same handle bars and you aren't holding them right. You're not holding them "on the bars". You get much more with your hands wide open on the bars than squeezing the bars with your hands closed.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I see what you did there!

[@paulsirkka4995]

Well, 4stroke is a lot more reliable and if u test ktm 350 4s and 2s the 4s is faster

[@Dc_7o2]

Wet weight comparison between these two?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I cover that in the video coming out in 2 days.

[@jagerstrand7892]

dont hate me lol but im a quad guy but 2 joke is life 4 stroke is alright but cant beat the simplicity of a 2 stroke yea you might have to change the top end out every once and a while but still cheaper than a 4 stroke top end

[@jagerstrand7892]

Steve Johnson yea me and my friend just did the top end on my 1989 yamaha blaster super easy and only 100 bucks for parts. I would rather replace the top end every once and a while than have to change a 4 strokes top end once lol

[@jordanlovegrove1959]

Its not the bike... Its the rider. You cant accurately judge what bike will be better

[@kaisuhina8024]

CatchiestAlarm well 2 stroke have more power and is lighter too. not 4 stroke hater tho

[@jordanlovegrove1959]

SonOfGod i know that part but im saying the rider is the controller and can be inconsistant sometimes so im saying it could have different results from the riders different rides? This just my theory im no nerd lol im a 4 broke rider BTW

[@prestonr.hannula8819]

Sorry to say seat of the pants feel often lies, stopwatches don't.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

True that.

[@ahendley3]

great video as always, but....your not revving the 4stroke high enough, there's not quite enough low end torque in a 300 4stroke like that 300 2smoke, just saying

[@huntersinnott5075]

he needs to have ago on a exc or a te

[@bobthedealer9970]

I suspect you are quicker on the two stroke because you are more comfortable on it

[@td7122]

Bob the Dealer nope, he's faster on the ktm because it's a two stroke. No engine braking. if you are more experienced on a two stroke, engine braking will slow you down. You can afford to be a lot more careless on a two stroke. btw I'm not two stroke fanboy. just telling it like it is.

[@Ser04SpecV]

looks like some places i ride in utah

[@jacobwagner3364]

2 strokes are bae 😍😍

[@scottharter1161]

The Sherco can turn as nimble as it wants, but your terminal speed between the turns is probably very similar and the two stroke jumps to that speed faster. At least that's what it looks like to me. I still prefer a four stroke for overall experience, smoother exhaust note, and fuel injection. Maybe the advent of FI on two strokes may change my mind, but I still don't like the ring of two stroke exhaust. Same thing with snowmobiles - I cant ride one with an obnoxious pipe very long, it just bugs me. This kind of comparison is the best, though, rather than just a finish line difference report. Good work.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks Scott.

[@AZRickD]

In comparison, your narration on the KTM sounds a little choppy and out-of-breath. While on the Sherco, you are relaxed and conversational. If you ran a heart rate monitor and a Garmin, I suspect you're expending significantly more effort on the 2T. Over a period of 2 to 3 hours, I wonder how that would add up. I "feel" like I am faster on my 2T. And I think I am, but by just a slight amount. I expend much less energy on a 4T, both physically and mentally.

[@TheGr8scott]

Thanks, now I have schizophrenia.

[@blgarage9519]

6 stroke for life!!! Lol (its a real thing btw)

[@maherdavid1751]

yes but what does your spirit say

[@AdamBatchelder]

I would compare that sherco with a ktm 200 the wheel base would have been closer as well as the power

[@ArkansaDave1]

AdamBatchelder feel free to provide the bikes for him and I'm sure he would love to do another comparison.

[@ArkansaDave1]

S D that doesn't mean they don't exist.

[@ArkansaDave1]

I don't know ask Adam why he suggested it. Maybe because both are available for purchase?

[@AdamBatchelder]

Well not everyone rides a new bike every bike bought new gets sold to someone right. And many people right now are looking for and buying new 16 model 2 strokes to avoid the Mikuni carbs and have something relatively new to ride through this time of change while ktm works it's way through a lot of changes.

[@AdamBatchelder]

Another thing to consider is the 80/20 rule that's 80%rider skill 20% bike. The truth is that as much as we like new bikes we can only buy about 20% of our skills.

[@tmk5522]

torque is hige when riding trails like this, the ktm was faster purely because it accelerates harder and make bookoo torque.

[@foxatvoutdoorstrails6818]

Dirt bike 300 win the war

[@yogafirdaus9685]

Two stroke 😍

[@randomalex6104]

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