2 Stroke vs 4 Stroke Revisited - Episode 143

[@jeremiahwarren2603]

One thing that is rarely (if ever) addressed in the 2 vs 4 debate is the ease (and cost) of maintenance and repair. I'm not very handy with a wrench but I the 2 stroke is simple enough that there are very few repairs I can't handle. Any idiot can keep a 2 stroke running with little cost.

[@TypicalJacques]

Jeremiah Warren but four strokes need less maintenance, so i guess its just what u prefer.

[@noahranker4133]

Little cost? You wish

[@willyklips7164]

Yea they dirt cheap. 97 ya 250 full restore after 3 years sitting in barn. $600

[@Dingbobber]

Thanks god because I’m a retard

[@infidelmat]

it's funny how the evolution of 2 and 4 strokes kinda switched places: vintage 2 stroke: tons of power up top, narrow powerband, useless non existent bottom end, not great trail bikes, only MX game in town, top ends changed like underwear vintage 4 strokes (water cooled): low end chuggers, long low to mid end, not much HP, better trail bikes, crap MX, last forever modern 2 stokes: enduro tuned bikes have great low end while still keeping some top end, great trail bikes, handicapped by displacement rules in MX, top ends can last up 300 hours sometimes modern 4 strokes: MX tuned bikes have tons of top end but sacrifice the low end (except for 450 cheater bikes), smaller displacement bikes are ticking time bombs if run hard. Generalities of course. But 2 strokes are more fun. Win!

[@MX-127]

Uh 300 hours what cc 2 stroke

[@infidelmat]

Cody sansbury bigger bores, 250-300, talking trail/enduro tho, MX guys would be too anal to wait past 50 no matter what lol

[@T3merity]

MX127 A kdx 200/ 220 will go that long on a top end.

[@ABCSMURF]

Its beyond me why you arent a million dollar company yet, because you have some of the best dirtbike content for beginners out there! You break it down to a level where new guys understand you and it not just sponsored shit that you are biased towards. Thanks man keep it up

[@AGirlandHerBike]

REALLY good, unbiased opinion and explanation of the two. Loved this video!

[@nugs_6432]

Why dont they make a 3 stroke! problem solved!

[@marcusbevz6500]

Nugs_ u don't know how much I love my Kawayonda 3 stroke

[@nugs_6432]

Haha i bet you do!

[@zane4964]

Nugs_ they do its called a rotary engine

[@goodboyringo9716]

Nugs_...Same reason they don't make a 5 stroke !

[@RWWRENTAL]

@@goodboyringo9716 well they should make a 6 stroke then :D

[@bryanroberts]

You said it perfect this time Kyle! I couldn't agree with you more! Thank god we have the choice of bikes that both perform extremely well it just depends which guy you are! Btw... I'm the guy with his hair on fire!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

:)

[@andrewlees9323]

just got rid of my 2014 yz450f and bought a 2016 husqvarna TE 300. super excited to get on it this weekend. thanks for all the info between 2 stroke n 4 stroke helped heaps

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Kyle, I have ridden for 61 years now... I have found the 300 2 strokes just right for me st least. I still ride everywhere on mountain trails that I always have.

[@cowsintheforest9875]

you should do a vid on the smaller bikes so say a 250f compared to a 125 two stroke

[@baileymanning9159]

yeah 125 2 stoke would be awesome

[@davindrachenberg8536]

I rode a 125 on trails once.. Worst day of my life probably. They are super slow unless you are on the pipe and you can't ride trails on the pipe..

[@baileymanning9159]

I'm getting one next year

[@davindrachenberg8536]

+Bailey Manning don't expect it to climb hills unless you are on the pipe.. You will find yourself stalling out allot

[@zane4964]

+Davin Drachenberg lol try an 85 i do it fine and why cant you be on the pipe on trails?

[@glahut93]

Top podiums are factory paid riders.they must ride four strokes cause factories push there product.I bet many American factory riders would love to be on 2 strokes if it was an option.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Agreed.

[@nateemmett4485]

I agree with the first statement but I'm not sure if i concurs with the second. ALOT of these kids havent ridden smokers since they were on 65's or 85's. The 4t is all they know all they've ridden, now they may be able to get on a smoker and go fast but honestly they should be able to; like you said their PAID to go fast. Villipoto has said on numerous occasions that he prefers the thumper as have countless other pros. Now is that just the sponsorships talking or truth who knows.

[@cnocky6110]

Everyone just likes 2 strokes cause they are harder to ride

[@KiwiNewellLimited]

also depending on the discipline, mx they would probably prefer four strokes but if your talking enduro, they all ride 2 strokes except for the supercross/ endruocross mix of superenduro (is that what its called)?

[@jaydensdream714]

I'm very sure factory support is available if a guy screams up through the amateurs on a ktm mx250. They have more total power but on todays layouts the higher average h.p. of the smokers just gets them around the track faster. Period

[@Outdoorguy57]

Thank you, Kyle Brotherson and the Dirt Bike Channel, for making these videos! I like your explanation of both sides of 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke and it has helped me make a decision for which one is right for my style of riding. I'm still deciding on a brand and my choices are between Honda, Yamaha and KTM.

[@zxMRxNINJAxz]

Personally I'm a 2 stroke guy, even though I haven't had a 2 stroke in a while, waiting to find a good deal on a maico 700, would be awesome for you guys to do a review on one!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I've never seen one in real life...

[@zxMRxNINJAxz]

Dirt Bike Channel yeah they are rare man, I think in the USA there's a company selling a bike called the ATK intimidator what uses a maico 620cc or 700cc engine. I think I'm going to have to import one because I can only find old twin shock 490s on the uk at the moment.

[@Fireballsocal]

OveRLoxD I looked into one when they were still made by ATK. ATK was quick to answer all my questions but I felt there wouldn't be very many made, probobly parts would be expensive and hard to get if even available. I went with a service honda cr500af instead with some light porting instead. about as much fun as you can have on a bike but my 450f is easier to ride and I was faster on it everywhere else but the dunes.

[@meanknowitall3436]

Glad that this channel respects both kinds of bikes and is not biased. Thank you Dirtbike Channel

[@DirtBikeChannel]

You know it!

[@JacobNykiel]

My bike is 30 years old and I couldn't be happier!

[@davindrachenberg8536]

I think you could LOL you've clearly never ridden a real bike if your bike is that old..

[@JacobNykiel]

+Davin Drachenberg I said my bike... That doesn't mean I haven't ridden other bikes that are modern. And I'm a vintage guy, so a 1986 YZ250 that was in rough shape that I brought back to life is what I enjoy. Thanks for being an asshole.

[@davindrachenberg8536]

+Jacob Nykiel dude.. I said "You've never ridden a real bike if your bike is that old." I didn't say "YOUR BIKE IS AN OLD PIECE A SHIT! GO DIE!" I was simply saying that because I knew if haven't ridden a modern bike you would be missing out.. I WAS STATING THE FACTS! Why the f do people get offended so easily gawd..

[@JacobNykiel]

+Davin Drachenberg Explain how I'm missing out? Riding a piece of 2 stroke history that's that old is my passion... it's everything but missing out when I ride.

[@Lvcas-Hicks]

+Jacob Nykiel I feel you man I ride a 2002 cr80 it's not as old as yours but I would love to own a old cr500 some day

[@ClaytonSensiba]

I think that a 4 stroke is more beneficial to someone with less experience but a 2 stroke will be a real weapon with a rider that is really good and knows how to use the 2 stroke to its full potential.

[@ClaytonSensiba]

But you can still be insanely fast on a 4 stroke!

[@zane4964]

agreed

[@joeybrewer6564]

agreed

[@brandonquenneville7330]

not a chance i agree to that. 4t run hot and steamy and cannot survive extreme conditions. this is where 2t comes in handy. after that it is just personal power preference

[@ClaytonSensiba]

Brandon Quenneville I said for a less experienced rider, I doubt a less experienced rider would be taking a 4 stroke into conditions that will ruin a bike due to overheating. And you have to be a total idiot to overheat the hell out of your bike. Also have you ever heard of cooling fans?

[@Ferms12]

From 4:45 to 6:00 is the very best summation of the notable differences between the two. But I think the 4t has the "power/torque" from bottom to top and are less forgiving in tight/technical; and 2t bikes have a a torque curve that starts lower and has less hit in general before the powerband but more stalling resistance for the tight/technical.

[@MR-04]

2 Stroke all the way !!!

[@LakesMTB1964]

Thanks for doing this series it’s helped make my mind up

[@2troke]

Really enjoyed your comments and ideas on this age old debate. The AMA went from 250 2 stroke to 450 4 stroke as the premier class (miss those 500cc 2 bangers). Regulations changed, emissions etc. Manufacturers/Marketing that is the way it is going. Electric start amongst other things and now it is 'cool' to have a dirt bike or even a Harley without being a 'biker' tattoo stereotype, things have changed. Begs the question, based on capacity (cc) and no other direction of teams/manufactures/marketing etc. What would the top MX SX riders choose to ride in today’s AMA SX and MX series? 250cc 2 stroke would be my guess. 450 vs 250 massive difference in capacity there. That adrenalin rush when the 2 bangers on the pipe, nuf said, trying to keep it clean here. Love the 300 2 banger in the bush.

[@creigh68]

Hey Kyle. Blessed is the correct word. I have a mx bike (ktm450sxf) and a enduro bike (300xcw). I have to say the 450 on a track makes me smile the most, but there is a joy in climbing out a rock incline that is just magic.Very very spoiled. Like you, I can head out my front door and go bush bash for hours in endless terrain for free. The track can be pricey and is slightly more risky, so I tend to ride the 300 more. Which is great because it's dirt cheap to maintain.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks for sharing this Creigh. We are certainly blessed.

[@suhwateezea.214]

Kyle, you did an awesome job giving 2 stroke and 4 stroke an honest comparison. I love these discussion videos man! Thanks for taking the time to make these vids, they're great.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Glad that someone out there appreciates the ramblings of a madman!

[@desertghost3056]

No, I picked one up off yo ur website. Figured since you've offered soo much good advice and helped motivate me to take up riding again the least I could do is help advertise your channel and support your channel.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thank you!

[@NirHason]

7:53 I got nervous when you put you hand on that pipe! my instincts were like "WTH are you doing?! it's hot!! haha

[@LtCatfish]

Nir Hason imagine his skin starts boiling and when he pulls his hand off there’s a huge flab of skin there

[@olderwiser2080]

Of course 2ts are not obsolete. I have 4 2ts in my garage now, and 3 of them are likely to remain. They are: KTM 300 XCW, chain saw, string trimmer, and hedge trimmer. I'm taking delivery of a new '17 350 XC-F soon, and I think there is something to be said for getting used to one dirt bike. I did keep both a MX and a woods bike, but at 54, I've decided to take a extended leave from the track, sticking to the 350 for dirt and the FJ-09 for back road sport touring. :)

[@devinwright131]

You're kind of saying it already but 2 strokes are very different than they used to be 10 years ago. These new power valve systems give access to power all across the R's and have a TON of low end in addition to that heart pounding top end zing. I love all different kinds of trail riding on my 2013 yz250. All I had to do was put on a slightly heavier flywheel to help throttle/hookup control and barely gear down for the technical stuff. Really affordable at 5k new, plenty of stock power, and much easier to work on/cheaper to rebuild.

[@tomalealso]

Thanks for the follow up, I was out on my 2T a 1985 Maico 400 yesterday, really the first time since I finished building it. I had ridden it before but yesterday was the first extended trip, up to this point. I had been riding my 2009 KTM 400 XCW I like both but realized several differences. The maico requires precise throttle control and on fast wide trails is super fun . at that speed the 4 T is frankly boring. but going up a steep hill with loose rocks the 4T is easier, the 2 T was more difficult, do able but more difficult,. By comparison going down hill on the same kind of trail, the 2 T was much more controllable. The reason is because with a 4 T and engine brake the rear wheel wants to lock up while the 2 T will roll over the loose stuff, in the sand I much prefer the 2 T Some might be tempted to suggest that the reason is because of how old the 2T is but honestly that has very little to do with it, we are comparing the 2 different power plants not the age of the bikes.

[@rtoebak76]

6:46 ow well. Looks like nice woods with things sticking out of them. My last bike was a cr250 2001. Would it be okay to go crf450? Or is it just to much?

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Xcw 300 and kx100 for my girlfriend and I, 2 stroke all the way!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Not a bad combination there!

[@RWWRENTAL]

i thought 4 stroke gives better down low torque and more controlled movements on technical/tight riding? while 2 strokes you have to get it going to get the power? im a new rider so dont know too much yet

[@Motonion]

I love these discussions. Keep it up mate.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks for the support.

[@Motonion]

+Dirt Bike Channel No problem.

[@HobbitHomes263]

Tip: By a siping tool. As your tires wear, the edges on the knobs get rounded. Before each ride. use the siping iron to square up the edges

[@dtrim7450]

Old video, new comment. 2001 cr250r race ready vs 2017 crf450rx, I still have both. My two stroke is fun, light, nimble, nice in tight woods and eats up rear tires. My 4 stroke has mapping, fuel inject, ungodly power stock! My four stroke in race mode is just down right ridiculously, thought I notice myself self taking really tight single track areas a bit slower as soon as I get just a little more elbow room thru the trees I’m gone, it’s smoother and puts the power to the ground better, loving this thing and I’m a die hard 2 stroker but I’m loving this four stroke and the technology. My buddy is on a 300 ktm and I literally can take a lunch break waiting on him to catch up when I’m on my 450 running single track but I am 6’4 and have the strength to harness the power. This is definitely not the bike for a smaller rider. Both bikes are great! 2 strokes give a certain fun factor I always loved. 4 strokes are smooth Power and in a lot of cases more power than needed. Maintenance, 2 strokes are just down right tough machines and cheap & easy to work on, my 4 stroke kinda scares me maintenance wise. Long story short, down a red bull and go ride who cares...

[@sumatai1]

Great analogy! Well said! Especially the part when you had mentioned the what shoe to wear philosophy.

[@benkrom2737]

2 strokes take a certain personality to ride. If you are comfortable with explosive power then you'll love them , maybe even additive. I know I always enjoyed the jekyll and hyde power of 2 strokes !

[@eyalcr500]

hi Kyle! yes it's me,the iritating guy that use the KX450 for enduro,remember? with the EFI issues ? well man, just wanted to say that i had a ktm 300 '05 - and it was THE BEST engine i ever had in off road !!! you're right there! and i'm not a good rider on 2strokes,i admit. but i LOVED this engine. we call the 300s "torque pigs" and i used to call it a "3 stroke" :) so ,again - i wait for that aluminum chassis + EFI to come arround, and i buy one!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks for your input.

[@thefeller2174]

damn, was just browsing thru youtube... and found this video. love them keep up the great work

[@DirtBikeChannel]

There are plenty more like them on this feed. Make sure to subscribe!

[@Fireballsocal]

You talk about the YZ450F in the sandy whooped out desert really shining. How does the 300 in XC or XC-W do in the same conditions? Unfortunately, most of my local conditions are sandy rocky whooped out open desert.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Open desert riding I'd steer away from the XC-W and look for the XC. It does great. The 4 stroke or 2 stroke out in the wide open desert is a preference thing. If you already like the 4 strokes and think the wide open desert if where you will be riding, then stick with 4 stroke.

[@francobazzi2576]

Which is your opinion between them costwise? Including gas consumption, mantainance and rebuilds?

[@didnthurt4077]

Any performance difference between 50cc 2stroke and 4stroke? I have a 4stroke and thinking to switch to 2stroke cause i cant even get uphill without staying in first gear and this is a real bummer to me.

[@WaffenSSaregods]

Love riding my 1983 Honda Cr480, talk about a monster 2 stroke! Would love to see you on a vintage bike every once and awhile haha

[@chainsawkiller4970]

Can you tell me please which bike is better ktm 300 exc 2 stroke or ktm 500 exc-f 4 stroke? For enduro.

[@michail1963]

My transition to beta rr 300 was the best choice for stepping up with my bike control. However I started racing (had 12 races already) and unless it is a hard / extreme enduro single trail, 350 4 stroke is going faster. We race mainly cross country races (cca 13x 7min laps) and 300 is wearing me and my hands off, plus cornering is sooo darn difficult compared to 4stroke. Kyle, whats your view on vibrations of a 2 stroke and carpal tunnel issues? Some veteran racers showeŕd me their scars from surgery on both hands and told me they had to throw their 2 stroke away for good...

[@WarefareModern3]

Great video. Only thing I would add is the maintenance is 1/4 the cost on a 2 stroke and much easier to work on.

[@snowfreak551]

Kyle im trying to figure out if i should get rid of my 4 stroke for a 2 stroke 300 XC, and i know it all depends on the rider but would you recomend a 2 stroke for a rider that only does trails, mostly wider fairly fast trails (only get to hit some good single tracks a couple times a year because of where i live) while now and then hitting some crazy technical rock sections? I like my 450F alot but it feels big and heavy alot of the times, and i want to try something new, its unfortunate i dont know anyone with a 2 stroke because all the people i ride with are my fathers friends and they are all on big 4 strokes and arnt into 2 strokes at all. Any advice to presuade me further would be great. Thanks!

[@thefeller2174]

just after abit of advice here, i mainly do forestry, and single trail riding and am currently buying a new dirtbike, not sure if i should get 2 stroke or 4 stroke.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'd go 2 stroke in that case.

[@zane4964]

The Feller 2 stroke! it'll lug through thoses tight trails!!

[@voicucosmin8393]

I have a 450 crf from '05,and man,i love the 4 stroke torque,oh yeah,and i'm a novice,is my first dirt bike,and i have on it aprox. 15 hours, so wish me good luck,is a pretty brutal bike. Now every bike have his advantages, 2 stroke vs 4 stroke war will never end,just enjoy and have fun.

[@codyfoutch6066]

Like you said you can't truly be satisfied unless you have both options to choose from! 03 YZ250 Enduro 14YZ250F for track

[@mxfreaks]

Exactly i have an 02 yz250 plus a 12 yz450f. Gotta have both!

[@I53-624]

I’m a little late to this, but I recently bought a used 2011 kx85 in almost perfect condition. It’s a great bike, but I mostly ride it on trails and it doesn’t feel how I expected it to feel. I’m completely aware that 2 stroke engines are made to be opened up more on an mx track. But I’ve heard about things you could do/add to the engine and bike to make it more like an enduro. Any tips?

[@wvangus82]

I always rode 2 strokes when i was younger. I went forever without having a dirt bike, then traded around for a big sooped up 450R Honda. I hated it at first, couldn't hardly hold it down in any gear, bht now that ive had it a few months and got used to it, i love it! I can take it anywhere the ATV/Side by Sides go!!

[@gediminasb.7507]

Do 2 stroke aprilia mx 125 needs a lot of maitenance? Im fresh in motorcycle world so Idk how to maitenance 2 stroke bike

[@andygullion5182]

Well done. I love my 300xc, loved my 300xcw. I loved my 450x. I love all dirt bikes . Always have, always will.

[@TheXaelem]

I am still on a, heavy as a truck, honda xr600r and I do EVERYTHING on it. Sure it is tiring and like wrestling a bear all the time but I love how planted and stable it always feels. All these newer aluminium framed bikes, yz450 included just feel way too light and twitchy for my liking. I may not be the fastest, quite the contrary, but I enjoy what I am doing and I love my bike and that's what it is all about.

[@logancieless6936]

lol I have a bike from 1980 and I just picked up a 95 cr250 2 strokes are definitely fun

[@jakebasnight501]

Aye, 95 cr gang

[@wolfwolf7920]

Can you please do a review on a husqvarna two stroke or four stroke right now i have a wr250f but I've always seen huskys and they seem great but are they good reliable bikes? be great to have one on the show!

[@masonmassie7911]

I have a ktm 125 sx, got it for a very good price. It's a very high strung engine and only hits it's power band way up in the rpms. I ride steep slow trails mostly, so my question is what modifications would you recommend to make it more suited for the type of riding I want to do, thanks. -Mason

[@backyardboosters9128]

I trail ride a yz125 so maybe I can help. the single biggest thing that made my bike feel so much better in the steep stuff was swapping the rear sprocket for one with two more teeth. it didn't hurt the top side, and it's smoother in steep climbs. Now it still takes work, but it took that a lot of work and second guessing out. That'd all I did outside of the small stuff. A lot of people will add a reuse clutch which I'm a little against since I feel like the 125 is a teaching monster (mines my first bike at the age of 26) there's also a flywheel counterweight which I think is a good idea if yours doesn't have one. Gearing and clutch control are the big things in my opinion. But I am just a rookie.

[@Connor-qs8bc]

nice video series kyle! i have a 2011 yz250f and i love it but i have never ridden a big bore 2 stroke

[@braydenahl660]

im thinking about getting a cr250. would this be a good first two stroke?

[@colbybarton3205]

as my first bike and probably only bike should I get a 125 2 stroke or a 250 4 stroke

[@rvh77]

I got a 2017 KTM 300xc after not riding for a lot of years. I had a chance to ride my neighbors YZ 450 before I bought the bike. That 300 never ceases to amaze me. So happy with it.

[@resource121]

i rode XRS for years and loved them for woods riding awesome bikes . i recently baught a 450sx a 2006 i havent spent alot of time with it yet but i have always been a little bit more aggresive . this 450 has a ton of power and i also weigh in the 250 range im 6 foot 3 . You do have to keep that finger on the clutch .I think im going to really like this bike im going to to compare it to a ktm 525 and see which one i keep. im really excited to get back out there and ride.

[@wayward03]

not sure how often you check your older videos but I'd like to bring up one point on the debate. if you need to connect trails or ride from home a 4t is the way to go, also makes it easier to grab pump gas as no bottle of oil is needed. do the modern 2t bikes still foul plugs when riding off the bottom rpm range , technical single track and all of that.?

[@arroneyres3048]

What would you recommend for a first big motorbike being street legal as well as potential light off road use to? Was looking at CRF 450, FE 350 or Various KTM models

[@ReaIDeaI1]

Does that ktm 300 2 stroke make some massive power? I've got an 06 rm 250 2 stroke and that thing makes the power so I'm just curious about an extra 50cc

[@DirtBikeChannel]

yes, it's massive power.

[@munchiesgaming3067]

Not much diverence between the two

[@jaidoncenter7860]

I've been wanting a dirtbike for years and I don't have much experience with them. I'm 14 and come from a family with not a lot of money and I'm 5'4 and 165 lbs. Anyone got any idea what would be the best bike for me to start that would be affordable please let me know

[@xxhellboyxx6419]

Thinking about getting a cr250 and I'm used to riding a 4 stroke. Do the cr250's have the same low end power as a 4 stroke?

[@joey627]

xXhellboyXx 64 4 stroke have a lot more bottom end then a 2 stroke, In my opinion I would get a 4 stroke

[@zane4964]

xXhellboyXx 64 it won't have quite as much being a race 2 stroke but it is very very stall resistant making it lug through everything.

[@thrasher2094]

xXhellboyXx 64 If you set it up right it cam have the same or more low end power than a 250f. You won't be able to get it to have more low end power than a 450 though. My YZ250 has more low end power than my friends YZ250f (when he still had it) and his bike had a Posey racing engine in it. Maybe it was set up for top end power though, who knows? It was still slower than my YZ250 with only bolt on mods.

[@MX-127]

These videos are great they are very well made keep it up !!!

[@bradl45]

more bikes...funner!!!!! I have a 4 stroke and I'm stoked about KTMs lightweight 2017 300!!!!! But before I buy a new model, I want to see how they shake out this winter.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

yeah, it should be interesting to say the least.

[@sergimirats1528]

For MX, should I take 250 sx or 350 sxf (both second hand)? would be my first MX bike

[@timkuitems4431]

I want to come ride Utah! Would you be willing to tell me where to stage/camp, tell me what direction to head, and/or describe the major land limits to the north south east and west of the staging spot. I will continue to research and map out a few rides from there. Love your videos and commentary. Thank you!

[@frankcrivaro7857]

I have had rmz yzf crf ktm xcw 450s for the last 10 years and just picked up 16 husky te300 and I would have never predicted how much I love riding this bike ...mostly tight single track but this thing does it all and never stalls (no doubt just fun to rip)

[@jamieshearing6240]

I have a 4 stroke but definitely gonna make the change one day.love your videos

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks for watching.

[@haydenw6585]

My first bike as a 16yo was a early 80s Suzuki er185 trail bike that was badly abused and blew up not long after buying it ,I swore I'd never get anther two stroke... Recently 25 years later I restored a 82 tt250 yamaha because they look cool and I've do Ne a ton of trail rides over summer but then I noticed the 300 2 strokes and came across dirt bike channel and now I am the proud owner of a ktm exc300 which suits my riding style perfectly , long live the two stroke!

[@Aziatik7oh2]

Hey kyle! I was interested in buying a four-stroke bike from KTM. I was always envious of not have to mix oil just about every time we go riding. I previously owned a yz250 two-stroke and felt it was the perfect bike for me; unfortunately had to sell it when I first moved. Are there any four-stroke KTM bikes that you think performs similar to a 250 two-stroke engine? We typically go riding in rocky trails and climb hills.

[@kristeriafloyd2654]

hey great video man loved how you broke down all of the correct facts

[@mauricet8417]

What is best for the road 2 stroke or 4 stroke?

[@jamesstewart3742]

Will it matter with body weight I'm 150 kg buy looking to go down to 125kg

[@fzking4476]

Hey I'm lookin for a 2 stroke that I can take to the track but also go endure riding what would be y'alls preference

[@i9Montages]

yz 250 i love mine you can see me taking it on trails on my channel

[@boss302gorie8]

as the other guy said,a YZ250 is a good choice or a KTM250 SX,ive got a 300 exc and its awesome

[@Albertalorian]

YZ250X

[@elijahfeldman6055]

I'm happy you made this video. So we can all agree that a more technical type of riding is where the smoker takes the win for sure. But the wide open desert is where the thumper takes it.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'll agree with that one. Nailed it.

[@elijahfeldman6055]

+Dirt Bike Channel an idea for your channel. A project build on an older 4 stroke or two stroke. Not something that's over the top but something that a regular person would be able to afford. Just an idea. I would love to see what you would do to an old bike. Let's say on a 3k budget including the bike and aftermarket parts

[@ther3dbaron01_]

Hey I'm looking at a yz125 and the only thing im really concerned about is the size of the bike. I'm 6 feet tall, and idk if the bikes gonna fit me well. Anyone got any thoughts?

[@joey627]

You'll have more control over the bike but if your more experienced go with a bigger bike like a 250 or 300

[@cod_joker_4205]

TheRedBaron 125 be okay for your height i had an 87 kx125 and im 6'1 but i prefer a 250 but i am going 2 stroke probably get another kx they fun bikes

[@samhodge7212]

What are your thoughts on the 200 2-stroke motor, such as the ktm 200 xcw?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'd love to test one out some time. I think they would be a fun bike in a lot of areas.

[@crjmoto]

Garage goal - a 2 stroke, 4 stroke trail, 4 stroke mx, small dual sport, big dual sport, sport bike, cruiser. Oh and a Grom, gotta have a Grom. Some buddy-bikes too. I'm gonna have to start picking up some overtime...

[@DirtBikeChannel]

You must have the same disease that I'm suffering from!

[@bradl45]

grom?? go sumo! (and a grom, lol)

[@renegade-survivor7057]

Hey I'm a Jan of your channel and have bin watching your videos for a while and I got to say they have helped a lot. I've just recently gotten into dirt biking and your channel has bin teaching me a lot about the hobby. So I have a ktm 2016 250xc and I just changed the power valve spring (I think that's what it's called) to the red spring from the yellow one. I haven't ridden it on a trail yet but I rode it around my yard and it feels great. But I had one concern and that was will I lose traction because of the back tire spinning out?

[@DirtBikeChannel]

The red spring will allow the power valve to open earlier in the RPM range. That means more power faster. Yes, that can cause the wheel to want to spin more if you are not careful. There is no right or wrong answer here, it's just what you like. If you find the Red spring it too harsh, you can drop back the the yellow. Green is the most mild as far as those spring go.

[@renegade-survivor7057]

+Dirt Bike Channel alrighty thank you

[@wackedoutdude]

This is always a good debait. I would go 2stroke any day. I know 4 stroke is awsome too but i just love the sound and the easy maintainace of the 2. I had a 2001 yamaha yzf426 and it was good but it landed me with big bills to many times. Geoff.

[@792bnz]

2 stroke can be used for on road use as long as it abides within your city ordinances. Normally that means small engines, scooters, small motor boats, leaf blower, etc

[@mmonroe1025]

Can anyone tell me what state he is riding in? Looks like Colorado or Utah. ?

[@gixxerguy1992]

My 2 stroke quad is 30 years old and I love it more then a lot of newer ones

[@tomballesteros4673]

Very true,, my CR 250 gearing down with 14 tooth front sprocket & 52 rear sprocket, is great in tight cornering,,rocky hill climbs ,,But has the 2 stroke power band power slam..it’s has a hand full of power. 4 strokes has a more torquey acceleration..But are still a blast! SO PIC YOUR THRILL!!

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

i have both kx250 and rmz450 ..want a ktm 2t or beta (no oklahoma dealer) ((also budget)) i just wish ktm had lower base seat heights though

[@speeddemon4154]

Should I sell my 07 crf250r and get a ktm sx 125 ? I do field riding/ trail riding and goes to tracks sometimes

[@gamer2350]

SpeedDemon 250xc it's made for tracks and trails

[@speeddemon4154]

David pelkey I'll see what selling around

[@azteqog6018]

SpeedDemon 125s are horrible for trail

[@BroccoliBrigardist]

my brother has two bikes, a really old lc4 customly built into a offroadbike kinda thing, its from maybe 99 but it still rips its 4 stroke and i really love it...it is a superheavy machine, so nothing for woods or difficult terrain, but we have a lot of acre here in our area so its okay, its just really fast and heavy, so much power (620ccm i think) and the other bike is a suzuki 250ccm from 2010 or sth, 2 stroke, this thing is just ridiculous light in comparison to the other bike and it drives so easy, its like riding some bycicle or sth i dunno :D

[@gunfire12321]

Firstly, thank you very much. There is not a lot of 2T info out there now days, this is some good material. I have one question... During the 7 Video's, you never mentioned anything about 2T fouling spark plugs, depending how you ride them, i.e: if you coast too much you foul spark plugs. Myth or Fact? The answer to this question answers so much more, i.e: Beginners vs Experienced for 2t, Slow technical tracks vs open fire trails...

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I have NEVER fouled a plug. None of my friends have ever fouled a plug. Combined we have thousands of hours of 2 stroke time without a fouled plug.

[@-Xpekt]

Can you make a video about bike service, like how long time you can take between services. enduro drive with like 4 stroke and 2 stroke from 125-450. would like to know since i have gotten very confused with the service times. Or if you would like to type just over PM :) Maybe weird comment on this video but i would love to get it straight :P

[@beauv2245]

hey man love your channel. have you got a chance to ride the yz250x 2 stroke? I'd like to know your opinion on suspension between the KTM an yamaha. 2 strokes.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I haven't been able to ride one yet.

[@williamkee7924]

I had a carb 2 stroke, and I had the carb replaced, and I took it to the dealer, and had them tune it for the new altitude after we moved. I rode the crap out of it before, but the carb was always cracked. I was riding for a bit after it got replaced and tuned, and the piston seared against the wall, and the dealer said that the carb wasn’t letting the oil in. It was running off straight gas. I’m with the 4 stroke on this one.

[@shaniking17]

From 2 you move to 4 and not vice verser. My first bike i ever rode was a 2 strokes suzuki a100 and the suzuki k125 2cylinder 2 strokes but i think The 4 is better in long term because with 2 stroke u get the torque but need maintenance quite often

[@commanderroddi7742]

I know this is an older video, but sometimes its about practicallity as well. Right now, only dirt bike I can have is a dual sport, so something that is street legal and gets me some fun off road (looking a various things, KLxz300, WR250, 350 EXCF.... Japanese bikes are usually a bit better "on road" while the KTM is better off road, but also much more money (I cn pick up to KLX300 for price of a 350 EXCF.... I think for me a two stok 250 or 300 would be great, but I need a street legal one and the ones I've seen all all four strokes....

[@dano16771]

Another great video sir!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks Daniel.

[@dman1049]

Any way you can get your hands on the new Yz 250x?

[@MLaudio20]

Kyle, you ever consider dropping in a rekluse to test? They are great on the thumpers.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I have considered it for a 4 stroke for fun and to see what all the fuss is about. Talked to the Rekluse guys up at an event I was riding at. I may test one out later this year.

[@brennonschwartz8504]

Could you do a vid on how to maintain work on a 4 stroke next time you get one