2 Timothy 2:7-8 - Consider What I Say

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[@KeepingWatch95]

John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. John 12:48 *He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.*

[@KeepingWatch95]

_Paul (in 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy) fails to follow Jesus' sayings, teachings and instructions._ _Paul proclaims (in 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy) I am “ordained/appointed” to be a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher._ *1 Timothy 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.* *2 Timothy 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.* _For those that do not read or follow Jesus' commandments closely, the error(s) in what Paul has proclaimed can be easy to overlook._ _Here are some of Jesus's commandments:_ *Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, Christ; and all ye are brethren.* *Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.* *Matthew 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, Christ.* (Matthew 23:8 & 10 Master,G2519) καθηγητής From a compound of G2596 and G2233; a guide, that is, (figuratively) a teacher: - master. Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: *for one is your [Teacher], Christ; and all ye are brethren.* Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Matthew 23:10 *Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ.* _In Matthew 23:8 Jesus makes it clear he is the one Teacher (for one is your [Teacher], Christ)_ _In Matthew 23:10 Jesus makes it clear to neither be called teachers (Neither be ye called [teachers])._ _Also in verse 10 Jesus repeats what he had just said in verse 8. (...for one is your [Teacher], Christ)_ _Paul fails to keep Jesus' commandment “neither be ye called [teachers]...” even (in the same verse and in conjunction) as he proclaims himself to be an apostle._ _In other words; Paul is breaking Jesus' commandment not to be called teacher(s) at the same time as declaring himself as an apostle._ *1 Timothy 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.* _Paul repeats this claim as an apostle and a teacher in 2 Timothy 1:11._ *2 Timothy 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.* _Once again Paul is breaking Jesus' commandment not to be called teacher(s) all while claiming himself to be an apostle._ _Furthermore in 2 Timothy Paul proclaims; _*_“ Whereunto I am appointed...”_* *#1 Question:* _Who had appointed Paul “a teacher;” after Jesus had instructed not to be called such; in_ Matthew 23:10 *Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ.* _Paul claims likewise in 1 Timothy 2:7 _*_Whereunto I am ordained..._* Moreover *#1 Question:* _Who (against Jesus' commandment of (Matt 23:10) not to be called a teacher) “ordained” and or “appointed” Paul as “a teacher?”_ _None of Jesus' disciples would have had the authority to break any of Jesus' commandments, and to go and “ordained” or “appointed” Paul as “a teacher.”_ *_#2 Question:_*_ Or is it perhaps, we are to believe that Jesus broke his own commandment and came to Paul privately (came to him secretly as it were) and “ordained” and “appointed” Paul as “a teacher” against Jesus' own commandment?_ *_#3 Question_*_ Or worst, should we assume that God “ordained” and “appointed” Paul as “a teacher” against Jesus' commandment? However If this were true (being beforehand Jesus declared he is our one Teacher; for one is your Teacher, Christ) this would mean God “ordained” and “appointed” Paul in the position of an Antichrist (which means in the place of Christ or instead of Christ.)_ _The above questions are mere speculations which seemingly can not fit as explanations as to Paul's claims._ _The important fact to remember is; for in effort to conform with Paul's statements (found in 1 Timothy 2:7 and 2 Timothy 1:11) it is of a necessity to break Jesus' commandment; _*_Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ._* _Paul's statements in 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy break Jesus' commandment. Thus does not follow Jesus' teachings and Paul is a usurper of his self claimed position of teacher of the Gentiles._

[@jaylonbachman]

Just so we’re clear, you believe 2/3 of your NT within the Canon of Scripture was written by an antichrist?

[@KeepingWatch95]

@@jaylonbachman I don't believe my above posted comment mentions the term antichrist. My above comment does ask three questions; one of which is: *Who (against Jesus' commandment of (Matt 23:10) not to be called a teacher) “ordained” and or “appointed” Paul as “a teacher?”*

[@jaylonbachman]

@@KeepingWatch95 your question 3 did in your original comment. Jesus Christ Himself, the glorified Son of Man, appointed Paul to be an apostle, and a teacher. Acts 9:15, Galatians 1:11-12. And by your logic and misuse of Jesus’s words, you are discrediting the entire apostolic age and every apostle, not just Paul. Ephesians 4:11-12.

[@KeepingWatch95]

@@jaylonbachman Oh yes... you are correct ... question #3. So you are purposing that God had appointed Paul in the place of Christ (which = antichrist) ? And further are you purposing that Jesus came to Paul privately and broke his own commandment (Matt 23:10) and appoint and or ordained Paul a teacher/master ?

[@KeepingWatch95]

@@jaylonbachman Ephesians 4:11-12. *???* Paul testifies (2 Timothy) that the Ephesians all turned away from Paul.