2 YEAR UPDATE : AvalonKing Armor Shield IX Ceramic Coating

[@PanTheOrganizer]

🔥 For more quality detailing products visit: bit.ly/3BiPe3o ⬇️🔶 LINKS TO PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO ⬇️⬇️ 🇺🇸 For people in USA: AvalonKing Armor Shield IX ceramic coating: avl.kg/pan25 Bilt Hamber Auto-Foam snow foam: bit.ly/3zQW4bS CarPro Descale shampoo: bit.ly/3ZKAynL CarPro Descale shampoo: bit.ly/3QJbLIW Bilt Hamber Auto-Foam snow foam: bit.ly/3zQW4bS CarPro Descale shampoo: bit.ly/3QJbLIW 🇨🇦 For people in Canada: AvalonKing Armor Shield IX ceramic coating: avl.kg/pan25 Bilt Hamber Auto-Foam snow foam: bit.ly/3zQW4bS CarPro Descale shampoo: bit.ly/3AlnJDg Watch more of my videos: ✅ AvalonKing Armor Shield IX review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJjPmmmMg7GmgZY ✅ My brother applies the AvalonKing coating to his vehicle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laHadoCCpsqhl7M ✅ AvalonKing Armor Shield IX chemical resistance test: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4vRaZR7q7R8g9k

[@piggietruckerjones7545]

I completely love videos like this Pan keep it up. We need real world numbers.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the positive feedback! Have a great weekend!

[@maryhoffman2547]

Happy Saturday Pan! Thanks for updating us! Hello Andy!!!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You are so welcome!

[@bigmario7065]

I coated my car 2 years ago with Avalon king and still going strong. I wash it every 2 weeks with the right chemicals, my car is daily driven and garage kept. Awesome video Pan!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience with it! Where do you live by the way? So my viewers have an idea of the type of weather you're exposed to.

[@bigmario7065]

@@PanTheOrganizer Texas 🥵

[@pauld2917]

I’m at about 27 months with my AK coating and it’s still holding up very well. I did the recommended prep + 2 coats. As you said, proper maintenance and conditions are huge factors when it comes to durability. I am fortunate to have covered parking at home and at work to limit exposure to the elements.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience Paul.

[@lilianamontes6817]

Same. Around 32 months and all good.

[@johnnyv5995]

"He's Pan the Organizer's brother" 😂 I feel the love. Considering our harsh winters, the fact this vehicle was kept outdoors 24/7, not to mention the no-touch carwashes it went through - I would say +18months of decent protection is good. Now that your brother has a house, no more excuses - keep it tight/keep it clean! Have a great weekend Guys.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hehe thanks for watching Johnny!

[@michellecastillo9319]

definitely. i have gone through 2 milder winters with no problems.

[@terriblet9810]

I used AvalonKing on my car and it looked great and lasted strong for 18 months. I traded it in so I didn't get to the point that the coating was worn out. Thanks for recommending this DIY friendly coating!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing!

[@KonstaNykanen]

Fantastic real world update video on the AvalonKing Armor Shield IX! Great work Pan👏🏻, give Andy my best, always good to see him back on the channel❤️👍🏻.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks, will do!

[@KonstaNykanen]

@@PanTheOrganizer 👍🏻❤️

[@jngtruong]

I learned about Avalon King from your video and used your discount code to purchase two bottles (s2k and GS350). I did my GS350 during the start of covid. I do wash my car often and so far it still beads up nicely. I recently followed your other tutorial videos and apply PS bead maker recently too.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Great to hear!

[@Beerwoulfe76]

You should look into 3D's Bead it Up.

[@neilwalker5041]

Congratulations Andy on the purchase of your house! In todays world this is a big accomplishment! The coating works well but should be marketed as a one year coating like Gyeon can coat. Thank you for your honest impressions!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

He is quite proud of his accomplishment. He worked hard to get his house and he did that on his own too. I’m a proud big brother hehe.

[@jazzman9469]

Hello Pan, I thought I would share my 2 year update on my wife's 2020 Kia Optima. After watching your video and reading reviews on AvalonKing, I decided to try it myself. The results were amazing, easy to use and here we are 2 years later and the water still beads!!! I live in the Chicago area and as most know, the conditions throughout the year can be extreme cold to heat excessive. The only difference here is, the car is well maintained by me and garage kept. I will re-do the coating again next year to give it a fresh look.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Super! Good to know, thanks for sharing your experience!

[@a.i.9560]

Thank you Pan and Andy for the great update. I agree the automatic car wash is most likely the problem. 30 month ago, I put one coat of AK on my Tesla after polish and IP clean. Washed Car this morning before seeing your video and it is still going strong to my surprise. Environment is everything. Two Chicago winters, but Garage kept, Hand washed every 3-4 weeks and 13k miles a year (retired). Added topper from AK last spring and today when drying. Strong beading before topper was applied. Happy with AK, but will use a longer lasting coating next time due to the long prep time (wash, decon, clay bar, polish, IP). AK was very easy to apply. Only 1 coat do to time. Contacted AK about this was told second coat was only to insure full coverage.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@pauladams7180]

Hi Pan, I applied Avalon King 21 months ago on my 2021 Nissan Sentra SR, I keep up with the maintenance pretty well & l have to say it’s still holding on. The car is garage kept at night time only. Outside in the daytime. I would have no problem using it again .

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing! That’s great!

[@Roughdraft214]

Great video Pan! I know that was a problem for me when I lived in an apartment, I had to rely on automatic car washes. When we bought our first house I was so happy to have a driveway of my own. Congrats on the new home Andy!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@rivakhoffman4825]

Finally Andy is back🎉! He car is still looking stellar, despite going through a car wash. 😮

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah the coating really did a great job protecting the paint underneath. Stay tuned to find out what new protection we'll be applying to his car!

[@warrenalbert7922]

Thanks for the honest assessment Pan. Nothing like real world use and sharing how the car was maintained. For a sub $100 coating I think it is good. Just reapply every 15-18 mths.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching!

[@rodgardner3705]

I applied Avalon King in July 2022, two coats on my Elantra N,driveway dweller in Southern Ontario, with 4 months in the winter outside in Florida. Weekly washed with rinse less wash, detail spray applied weekly. Still beading up the same as new.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Good to know! Thanks for sharing your experience Rod.

[@kejorafall]

Why the reviews on avalon is pretty much polarized, is either very satisfied, or a major let down

[@chrishuelsman952]

I have had Avalon King on my car now for 24 months and it is still going very strong.

[@BlackQ60s]

black car? =(((( I FEEL YOU

[@chrishuelsman952]

@@BlackQ60s Yep, it's a pain in the ass. But when it's clean for that one second after washing it's amazing, lol.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your personal experience with it. Where do you live?

[@chrishuelsman952]

@@PanTheOrganizer West suburbs of Chicago.

[@BlackQ60s]

@@chrishuelsman952 1 second. Hahahahhaha. And it's all worth it. Sigh

[@granddetailing]

Hi guys, great info! I like the review from your point of view - applied by Andy under your supervision, only 2 proper maintenance washes, no regular eg. 'reload' application, parked outside, two harsh Canadian winters. Considering all that I guess even those 18 months is good. Usually the reviews are with perfect regular maintenance washes and deacons every 3-6 months, parked in a garage. So I appreciate your real life review. 👍🙂

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! Yeah I think it did quite well considering the factors here.

[@cranfktubner7677]

I applied AK on my matte paint and maintained it with their topper 1.5year ago. So far it’s holding strong 👍(sleeping in the garage and CA weather)

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience

[@kimnewling5728]

Hi Andy. Yes, Pan, it was my very first coating I applied. It was what you said easy. I got about 1 year and a few months of protection. Having experienced this coating, I've moved on to coatings that are more durable. And.....if you put 2 coats of AvalonKing on the paint, it's more work and not that inexpensive. So if I'm going through the prep time and polishing, I'm going to reach for something better. Thanks, AvalonKing, for exposing me to coatings. Appreciate the update, Pan.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah ceramic coatings are still my favourite form of paint protection for sure. The coating here did its job protecting the clear coat underneath. The paint still looks great.

[@davidboyce6427]

What’s up Andy. Good to see you always 👍👀

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching!

[@MickV4]

Applied the AK to 2 cars and 1 motorbike. 1st car '04 Lexus ES, religiously did the whole prep, took me 2 days for the whole thing, 1 coat. That was November 2021 so now we're almost 2 years and the coating is almost as the first day. Then I did the bike. Brand new Panigale v4, unfortunately I didn't do anything besides a good wash and light hand polish since it was out the box and not used. That failed miserably within couple of months. However I feel like I applied it over some wax or something. Both the Lexus and the Ducati are garaged. Then March 2022 I did '07 Mercedes. Did everything besides a cut (didn't need it). Except the roof top everything else is good so I assume I stuffed it up there. Also 1 coat. Overall I think it is a matter of PREP and then garaging and maintaining. The Mercedes sleeps outside. Except the bike that gets only handwash at home, the 2 cars mostly get a touchless wash in the carwash.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@CarGuysGuys]

Hey Pan, I have this coating on my Camaro. Applied in July 2021 with two coats, the car was “daily driven” 5-6k miles until September 2022 when i got another car and the Camaro spent nights exclusively in the garage with regular maintenance washes and ceramic toppers every couple weeks. The coating is still beading and sheeting very well. But I can see this may not be the best coating for those that don’t have the ability to regularly maintain.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

Super easy to apply for anyone. Very forgiving.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah it's still the easiest to apply beginner coating I have ever used.

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

@@PanTheOrganizer Agreed. Super good value if you get it sale. Keep killing it Pan!

[@bobwiese6128]

Great video. I am new to this, and I'm very pleased with what I am learning so far from you, mister Pan... 😊 Thank you so very much for doing this for all of us to learn.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the positive feedback Bob!

[@granularautospa3802]

Always great to see Andy on the Chanel

[@PanTheOrganizer]

More to come!

[@JordanJohnson-o9d]

Hey Pan and brother. Thanks for the videos. I've been following you yor awhile now. I have a midwest daily driver and started washing my vehicle monthly this past winter. I just washed, polished, clay barred, IPA, and applied 1 coat on my vehicle with AK. Easy work. I'm amazed how it looks after all the work. I hope i get at least a year out of it. Next will be the wife's vehicle. Thanks again Pan.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing. How did you discover my channel by the way? Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 985,000 subscribers and we have over 135 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@JordanJohnson-o9d]

@@PanTheOrganizer I don't remember when maybe 6 or so months ago. Like you we have harsh winters and I was looking for ways to keep my vehicles looking nice. When I came across your channel I was hooked. I bought a bottle of the gsf soap as your recommendation and tried it on my 4runner on a warmer day this winter and was amazed. I love the smell and ordered a bunch of products like the AK for beg

[@JordanJohnson-o9d]

Beginners and have no regrets. It's therapeutic to keep a clean and nice looking vehicle. Thanks again Pan.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I agree! Detailing my car is a therapeutic and soothing experience.

[@JustProAutoDetailingInc]

Hello from Chicago! You keep tempting me with ceramic coatings. I’m still using JescarColinite combo. However, on October 11th, 2023, it was time to test the difference between Jescar ULTRALock and POWERLock. UltraLock was applied on left side of hood. PowerLock on right side. Turtlewax Graphene was applied to roof. Chicago’s winter season is approaching and I’ll let you know which lasted until spring.

[@jessjessee3501]

I love AK. I've used this coating on multiple vehicles, 2 I know are doing pretty well at the 20 month mark. It's super easy to apply and maintain

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I recently tested their new Max version of the coating in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHLGYapjYsidmqssi=PHWgXxDzKC6PTako Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 960,000 subscribers and we have over 130 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@barryconvery762]

Great update video Pan. I recently purchased 2 bottles of Armour Shield ,but have yet to apply. I’ll still go ahead with the application even though I have some Carpro Cquartz also. Once the coating has gone I’ll just reapply. If I get 12-18 mths,I’ll still be happy. Good excuse to get the polisher out. 😊

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Exactly! And it's such an easy coating to apply. And for people who actually maintain their vehicle and who might not live in as harsh an environment as our crazy Canadian winters, many of my viewers have reported 2-3 years of durability, which is fantastic or a beginner coating. Where do you live? So we have an idea of the weather you'll be exposed to.

[@barryconvery762]

@@PanTheOrganizer Ireland

[@maxwellrosacasillas8950]

I LOVEEE ANDYYYYY, your video is even more perfect with him 🙌🏾

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Maxwell! He’ll be back for more videos soon!

[@coleoerton94]

I’ve coated at least 10 cars with this including my own, did all the steps even wash with their shampoo. After one full Canadian winter it was gone. I’ve gotten longer/better results with turtle wax Graphene spray.

[@nickwarren5800]

Great video pan! I would like to see you apply the DIY Detail ceramic to Andy's car next and see how that one holds up over the years as they are relatively new

[@joelpasserell4525]

Yes, do DIY details 3 year & and keep the same Andy abuse 😅 to see how long holds up in real life abuse. Sorry Andy. 😄 #bestcoatingtester

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! You will soon find out what we'll apply on this vehicle.

[@dandezz]

If you want a stress free coating, well, avalon King is the perfect coating for beginners.. It's super easy to apply without overthinking the task..

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Exactly. It's a great coating for beginners and people who have never applied a coating before. So easy to apply.

[@sebastianrosito1879]

He’s back!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

And he'll be back for more, so stay tuned!

[@megaanbruhh]

I applied 2 coats of armor shield to my Camry 2 years ago. Sometimes I went a month or 2 months without washing or maintenance. It’s also parked outside in California and it’s still beading and sheeting like crazy

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Good to know! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 940,000 subscribers and we have over 124 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@waay82]

I have a similar experience. 2.5 years after applying and Michigan Winters my Avalon King coating is pretty much dead. There is a new Armour Shield Max coming out in the next few months. Watch for it.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

That will be interesting to see how a new formula works! If that’s the case, hopefully they keep their legendary ease of application! 😁

[@MJ-bs5pl]

Great video and update Pan! It’s always good to see Andy too 👍🏻 I coated my wheels last November with this product and it’s still doing well. Mostly garage kept. I received an email from Avalon King about two new products launching in November. Armor Shield IX Pro, and Armor Shield Max so I’m excited to get my hands on both of them! Were you part of the Beta testing for those products? If not, planning on a video soon? Thanks for ALL you do for us. Have a great day 👊🏻

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!! As far as new coatings, those sound interesting!

[@clintrockabar8100]

Great video, Pan, thanks for sharing! I've personally had mixed results with AvalonKing; one of my vehicles made it to about 14 months, and the other is at almost 3 years, and still seems to be working. Both vehicles are garaged, have regular maintenance washes and toppers applied, and are driven year-round, in harsh Saskatchewan winters and blistering hot summers. Hard to figure out why the vehicles had such different durability, but that could be due to many different factors. That being said, for the price of the product (if you use their Black Friday deals, for example, you can save a fair bit of cash if you buy multiple kits) and the ease of application, it's definitely worth the money. Anyhow, thanks again for sharing, and keep up the great content!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience Clint. Were the two cars coated with the same bottle?

[@clintrockabar8100]

@@PanTheOrganizer No, actually, I used 2 different kits, one for each vehicle, so one of the kits might have been faulty.

[@homewrecker44]

I still use their Armor Shield Light. After my last bottle I think I'll try that DIY Detail Ceramic Gloss from one of your videos. For some reason I can't stand the smell of the Armor Shield Light anymore. Reminds me of a used urinal puck lol. I was going to try their ceramic coating but after watching this I'll try something else.

[@BlackQ60s]

ANDYYYY. Celebrity appearance! Great video Pan. We definitely were curious about the 2 year update. And honestly, I'm sure Andy's a busy man, but this is the type of experimenting we want to know! Will consumer grade ceramic coatings hold on for the "average joe, er andy"? Obviously for us being on this channel, we aren't really the "average person" when it comes to washing cars but I love seeing videos like this that thought about all factors basically. Maintenance is key it seems! I guess for a ceramic coating you can buy yourself, a year and half -ish of protection is alright. Those automatic carwashes will definitely ruin your car. If you pay for a professional ceramic coat job, you best do maintenance washes or you'll waste your money!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks man!

[@79blustone]

Hey Andy! Pan, you should have more collabs and especially with Andy more, his car would be great for testing cleaning products as I'm sure he's too busy doing other things. The dirty car would be a great basis to work on for that reason.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I try and get him in as many of my videos as possible when he comes over hehe.

[@damclauchlan]

I actually used a cheap Nano Bond Diamond Nano which has lasted me well over a year now and was so easy to apply. If I can get a full year out of a coating I can apply with ease, in the harsh Canadian winters will leave me happy with the product.

[@Murtatha_Alwan]

That’s what I have my car coated with, great product!

[@ericanderson269]

Looking forward to the reveal on Andy’s choice for the new coating?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You will soon find out. Stay tuned!

[@Notdb1gabe]

I used this coating on headlights once and it gave out after 3 yrs of sitting in the sun

[@LoudModeOn]

I don't think this is a bad result, considering the price point and the fact Andy didn't do any meaningful maintenance for two years. I got two years out of it with a well maintained car. The thing is, if you are going to go to the trouble of a multi-stage detail to add a ceramic coating, there are products available now that are as easy to apply, and will last longer, as you said in the video. At the time AvalonKing put together a good marketing campaign with a cool looking, inexpensive and easy to use product. It'll be interesting to see their next move.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Well said. Yeah when it was released years ago, it was super easy to apply, no stress, inexpensive and a great coating for beginners. It will be interesting indeed to see what they are working on next… as this was a very good first attempt at a coating.

[@lindavent9490]

I applied Avalon's armor shield approx. 16 months ago, and after one Canadian winter and two summer's, the hydrophobics are still going strong. This could be due to the fact, that I also finish with a ceramic topper after washing. As for the glass, that's a different story. There is understandably, no protection left there. Overall, I've been very pleased with the results and would recommend this product for diy'ers. I would suggest they provide a better applicator with their product, such as a microfiber applicator pad, and larger in size than the tiny foam block and silk cloth that came with the kit.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I know they listen to customer feedback so we'll see what they come up with next. And yes the Armor Shield IX coating is a great coating for beginners who never applied a coating and want something super simple to apply and still get 1-2+ years of protection.

[@davidmaldonadocastillejos3179]

Great video. I feel the same proud when I detail my sister's car.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks David! Yeah I love taking care of my family's vehicles. One way for me to show them how much I care. When they see me spend hours working on their vehicles, doing things they'd never dream of doing or don't have the skill set for, they truly appreciate it.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

Although the Avalon seems a decent product, i think other coatings have become that much easier to apply that i would still go for Gyeon, Carpro or GTechniq. I actually think you could probably get similar longevity from the Can Coat Evo really. But thats a personal opinion and preference.

[@DetailingMadeSimple]

Great video Pan. Really shows the benefits of what a coating can do. Amor shield is a good beginner coating. Like you said many factors contribute to durability. What’s the next plan for Andy on this vehicle?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You will find out soon in an upcoming video so stay tuned!

[@keithfirebird7618]

Tease 😉😛😂@@PanTheOrganizer

[@thesamsquatch5224]

Always great to see Andy!!! As you said Pan many factors affect durability, what I'm curious about is... what's the next coating you're applying to the Mazda?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You will soon find out, so stay tuned! ;)

[@clyntwalkerwhitaker9236]

Hi Guys; thanks for the video. I also applied AK, about two years ago, one quick question if I may, if Andy's car has no coating left, would you still need to polish before applying some other kind of coating?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It’s a case by case scenario. If you’re absolutely certain there is no protection left, as is the case with Andy’s car, you can just do a decon wash, skip polishing (as the paint still looks great), do an IPA wipe and then apply a new coating. If you still have a bit of water beading left, it means there is still some protection left and at that point you’d have to machine polish to ensure 100% removal of any previous protection, then IPA wipe and then apply the new coating.

[@loic4691]

Really great to see Andy back👍😁, perhaps he'll get a détailing kit for christmas 😆.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching!

[@404notfound.....]

I feel the same situation with some of my family's vehicles, automatic car washes only.😮 I would try Brians new BC line for Andy's vehicle!! Price & performance is incredible. Great video pan & andy!! 👍🏼🇨🇦

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@davenelson8187]

Thanks for the update! Looks like your Bro should pick up some Cerakote Ceramic Trim Coat ❤

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching! I will completely strip the current coating on my brother's car, and add something insane pretty soon, so stay tuned.

[@bubblehead7680]

Good to se the longevity. I think it would be interesting to see some Adam's UV Graphene Ceramic coating. 10H hardness and 7 years protection.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I will have a 2 year update on the Adam's Advanced Graphene Ceramic Coating coming soon, so stay tuned.

[@albaker2938]

I can see AvalonKing doing something similar to what DIY Detail did with their lineup. They may reformulate the current Armor Shield IX and make a more durable version. Maybe call it Armor Shield X and possibly infuse it with graphene.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

One thing I know from AvalonKing is that they listen to their customers. I gave them tons of feedback from my experience and my viewers' experience in the past years, and I know they are taking those comments into account. Time will tell if they plan on releasing something new.

[@albaker2938]

@PanTheOrganizer hopefully they see this comment also haha.

[@MyGuyKirby]

Installed back in Sept-2020 and still holding well under frequent maintenance, in Texas weather and garaged. Driven 24K plus miles so not bad for a two year coating

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Wow that is awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@danilocarrasco580]

I believe AK is prepping to launch a new Ceramic Coating called Max

[@ianthomson4427]

Hi Pan! Long time watcher of your channel, and love your videos. I learnt all my detailing processes from you, and now work as a detailer. On your recommendation I bought applied Armour Shield XI (on special) to some vehicles here in Australia, but found they were failing after just a few month. I did only use a single layer but I was meticulous with the application, including a double IPA wipe after polish. I expected 12 Months + real world durability. This happened on 3 separate vehicles, using two different bottles of Armor Shield XI. After 3 months I had to polish and apply a different coating to each of them (NV Nova Pro) which has now been going strong for over a year now. Maybe I got a bad batch, but I expect that the product is just not very good. I wanted to leave this here as I know you appreciate good products, and this one doesn't live up to the PAN standards that I've come to expect.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience Ian. Yeah two layers are recommended with AS9 to reach greater durability. But I know AvalonKing is really taking all the feedback from viewers and customers over the last years and hopefully will come up with a greatly improved version in the future. 👍🏻

[@J1Z06]

Hello again , Andy! Nice to see You back. Not a big fan of Avalon King. Use some DIY DETAIL next time! I love their stuff! Maintaining a coating is the key to it lasting a long time. My vette was done in 2020/October and still beads nicely. Csl/exo. Mom's 2020 Subaru has csl done in November 2020. Still going strong. Both cars are daily driven and are also garaged.They are well maintained regularly.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend man!

[@J1Z06]

@@PanTheOrganizer In the process of doing a co-workers 2006 blue mini cooper s droptop. Getting it ready for its departure. It's being sold. It looked like it was washed with rocks and sandpaper! Lol DIY gold standard, uro fiber, then their waffle pad is working well.

[@richardseem7948]

Even though it was neglected none the less impressive

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yes it did very good.

[@michellecastillo9319]

Interesting results. I think the Canadian winters (and salts?) as well as the automatic car washes probably killed it. I've gone through 2 milder winters, 2 years + and its still going great. Slightly less hydrophobic on the hood but still impressive.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Good to know! 👍🏻

[@williampinchbeck4321]

Great video as always!! So what would you recommend now for us to use? Thanks!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! You’ll see soon what we decided to apply on his vehicle.

[@granularautospa3802]

I also use the Pan discount code , I bought few bottles and have one left unopened I wonder if it’s still good after two years

[@rickinwast]

Accolades to you and brother for this update. Still on the fence as to a ceramic coating this next spring? Price point & lasting durability is one issue. Question: With a ceramic coating when you get minor scratches & swirls, you end up paint correction & end up remove the coating? As a beginner past 2 yrs used TW Ceramic Acrylic Black Polish & TW Ceramic Spray Coating. Great results with continuous sheeting well into early summer. This is with rough winters & weekly Mister Car Wash here in Eastern Wa. I do reply the TW ceramic spray 1-2 monthly after a wash. ~ Thanks ~

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Paint correction will end up removing any paint protection, including coatings. If you have just VERY light love marks, you can use this polish: bit.ly/45Oq7Py It was designed for very minor corrections on coated vehicles.

[@charlesmitchell9647]

Hi Pan, I was expecting to see how you was going to go forward with your brothers car. Did you give it a quick polish/jeweling after washing OR just wash and put another coating on?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It’s a case by case situation. In his case, as there is literally no protection left, all that needs to be done is a decon wash like we did here, IPA wipe down and we can apply a new coating. If you still have a bit of protection left (you still get a bit of water beading), then you need an additional step of machine polishing to ensure 100% removal of the previous protection, then IPA wipe and then you apply the coating.

[@erik9108]

I literally LOL'd when you flooded the hood! Thanks for the honest review of a mistreated coating and not trying to sugar coat it. It's dead. Very dead.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hehe thanks! My viewers always can count on me to present results as they are. Without the need to bash or be disrespectful. 😁👍🏻 Happy new year Erik!

[@leger13g]

I have a lifted pick up truck that I will apply Avalon King Ceramic Coating. Can you please show a video on a pick up so I can see how go about it. Like washing, would you use a stepladder... Thanks

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Unfortunately, where I live in Montreal, big trucks and pickups aren't a popular choice. That's more of the Western part of Canada in the Prairies where they love their trucks. So most of my customers have higher end luxury cars. After 26 years of detailing, I focus on higher end more costly jobs, so the cars that fit that bill are usually more expensive and newer. But if I get a pickup one day, I'll make a video for sure. Techniques aren't really different, it's just bigger. And for tools, I made a video on work platforms and extendable poles here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJSQaZ1mm7Cjb7ssi=UjA44R5FMmdCrUgr

[@ATGriz]

In your trusted opinion. For ease of application and life span? Avalon King (have used in the past) or DYI Detail 3yr, 5 yr or 8 yr.

[@derekwood8184]

As I'm looking at my new to me, uncoated car I'm absorbing as much as I can, these videos are great, many many thanks. question: you said "don't let water dwell"... you mean rain?.. I'm in the south west UK, inland, the car lives outside so it's wet for 4+ months of the year (it's why in the UK cars die of rust). Our rain isn't acidic, it's comes off the atlantic gulf stream, no factories or power stations upwind of us.. can that really be that bad?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

When applying a new ceramic coating, most companies have a curing time where the vehicle must NOT be exposed to ANY water or rain during the curing time. For this coating, it needs 48 hours with zero exposure to water.

[@derekwood8184]

@@PanTheOrganizer ah.. that makes sense, just during the curing time.. I guess I'll be checking the weather forecasts (and praying they're right for once)

[@bradley8753]

Hey Pan, was this a 1 or 2 coat application?

[@waynebauerjr7426]

Its nice to see something actually fail. I would like to see Glass Parency's coating applied on something that checks back in every once in a while. I know the black Honda isn't available to see anymore. Really was interested in seeing the performance of that coating. Awesome video 📹.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the feedback Wayne!

[@jayp9450]

Okay what if you don’t have a garage. Live in a condo with a uncovered parking lot. Can you put it on after a rinseless washed and clayed?can you apply Avalon king to your car and leave the car to cure and exposed to outside elements

[@NRALifeMbr]

So, now that it is in this condition, what would you do now? Re-polish and apply again? What steps would you take now?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

The vehicle has already been properly decontaminated, and no polishing is needed here. We are at bare virgin clear coat. Paint looks great, so if you can avoid polishing (removes a thin layer of clear coat each time), might as well preserve the clear coat, if you are sure there is no protection left behind. So we can jump into a nice prep wash with a decon shampoo, do an IPA wipe, and apply a new coating. Stay tuned.

[@HammerPowered]

The "somewhat said, somewhat unsaid" takeaway for any form of protection on a car or truck is this - maintain it with regular washing with good products. Can even get more life out of waxes and sealants that way. I've become really disappointed with a few local detailers and a few KZbin channels who hype ceramic coatings as something that is maintenance free and use "never wash your car again" kind of statements. That is not realistic and the coating just won't last as advertised.

[@Billsmafia15]

I used Avalon King on the car I sold, and it lasted about a year. I live in an area with harsh winters, so can’t really expect it to last years. However, I used Adam’s Graphene coating on my new car and it looks like the first day I put it on, after a full year

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah I have been testing the Adam’s Advanced Graphene Ceramic Coating and it’s still doing great after 2 years. See my update video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3rIgKWXZ8t9otksi=WsPFlVRGYcJdZHkt

[@davidboyce6427]

Pan let us viewers see you and Andy apply BC 1 Ceramic coating 👍. Brian’s product line is respectable but you don’t need me to suggest that to you. Your channel and Apex Detail I’ve learned so much🤗🤗👍👌

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the kind words David! Always appreciated.

[@irshaad0113]

Hey Pan which coating will you guys opt for now. Will you have a video of the new protection soon.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You will soon find out, so stay tuned.

[@jeremyschwarz3718]

Hey Pan! What kinda of consumer grade ceramic would you use if you could only use one?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hi Jeremy! See my awards video for all my top picks and recommendations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYPZaKmBqNqfn7Msi=jaTudOP_VubagHNe

[@skywalker7807]

When a ceramic coating is at end of life, do you just put another one on or do you need to do stuff to your paint first?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It depends. If there is zero coating left like in this video, no water beading, you could just: 1) use a stripping shampoo to clean the car 2) iron remover to remove brake dust 3) claybar if the paint needs claying 4) IPA wipe 5) apply the new coating The other scenario is where there’s still a bit of protection left (i.e. there’s water beading left), then you would need a light machine polish to remove the previous protection (above and beyond the other steps above), then IPA wipe then apply the new coating.

[@artlayton1425]

Thanks for doing the follow up.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You bet! You’ll also soon see what new protection we apply on his vehicle. Stay tuned!

[@alantoledo7743]

So what do you when the ceramic coating is past its manufacturer date of how long it lasts?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You restart the prep steps and apply a fresh coating.

[@aldussavila2805]

Great video Pan and it's nice seeing you and your brother bonding again. By the way I wanted to ask something but didn't know how to message you so I'll just comment it here. There is this car shampoo from Kochchemie and its called "Autoshampoo" or "AS" it is a Ph 9.0 and recently I've been curious. Is "Snow Foam" different from "Car Shampoo"? I want to suggest maybe you are interested to make a video regarding "Snow Foams" or "Shampoo" are they the same or not. I was confused because the Kochchemie "Autoshampoo" has a description saying it is "High foaming" so.. maybe it can be used in a bucket and at the same time in a foam cannon? Will it be as foamy as other snow foams when used in a foam cannon? Maybe you are also interested to compare the Autoshampoo and the Active Foam of kochchemie :D

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I haven't used AS so I can't comment ont that.

[@richardkarl879]

Are you going to be doing an update on the Adams Graphene performance?

[@kevinfitzpatrick2556]

I was very disappointed in this coating. It lasted 3 months and was completely gone. They did have batch issues from reviews I saw on the web. Very poor response from their customer service as well. Too many other good coating’s out there. I would pass on this company.

[@J1Z06]

We have a 1999 Honda Odyssey that I did a full prep on. Polish, clay, etc. I put Avalon King on it and it was dead in very short time. It's an outdoor vehicle and was maintained regularly. I've had the best gloss and durability from csl/exo.

[@dazdoestip6459]

Same here, I applied one coat and it didn't last 6 months, I had better results with carplan super shine tbh

[@johnishac]

Same here 😅

[@nobody6056]

I got 9 months, and the vehicle was pretty much a garage queen for the period (I was sick so didn’t get out a lot). I’ll put another coat on, but it won’t be AK.

[@J1Z06]

@@nobody6056 I won't buy it again.

[@richardseem7948]

Another awesome video and content good friend

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@chichyiphone4]

Hey Pan, how well did it hold up Avalon on the windshield?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Barely a few months. Most paint coatings that can be applied on glass as well don’t do as well on glass. I still prefer dedicated glass coatings on glass surfaces.

[@youtoucan2312]

@pantheorganiser what prep will be required prior to a re coat, if you were to reapply Avalon King? Wash/ iron remover/ IP wipe down ??

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It depends if there is still coating left or not. In Andy’s case, decon wash and IPA spray will be enough. If you still have a bit of beading left, you would have to at least do a light polish to ensure 100% removal of any previous protection so the new coating can bond correctly to the clear coat. So wash, chemical decon, clay if needed, light polish, IPA wipe and recoat.

[@nosekKSG]

Hey Pan Thank you for your honest opinion on this ceramic coating, felt like it didn’t last a year on my vehicle. I prepped the car like I would usually do, then applied Avalon king the way recommended, following all the rules, temperature, humidity, curing time etc. luckily this was applied on my own vehicle… That’s just my opinion Peace ✋

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Where do you live? So we get an idea of the conditions your car was exposed to.

[@nosekKSG]

@@PanTheOrganizer I’m located in Northern Ireland

[@amill1563]

Don't worry Andy. We know you were not trying to ruin your brothers reputation, his legacy, his life's work. You were just busy and had priorities.

[@jimmyward2848]

Hey Pan, did you have a falling out with Avalon King? I tried to use your discount code on the G.O.A.T. and it failed to work. Needless, to say No Order placed.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

LOL what? No I'm in good terms with AvalonKing. The discount code only applies to the original AvalonKing Armor Shield IX coating, and you have to click the specific link that is in the description. Instructions are pretty clear on that. And I just checked, and it still works. Did you read the instructions? AvalonKing Armor Shield IX ceramic coating: avl.kg/pan25 Use the promo code PAN25 during checkout and receive $25 off each purchase!

[@PappaMike-vc1qv]

Great channel. I don’t have access to a garage and find it very hard to apply coatings and maintain them with the sunshine and dew or rain. Is it possible to do proper maintenance outdoors in the North East US? Are there products that cure faster and are more forgiving when applying outside in the driveway?

[@markhanson1009]

Use BC ONE. Can be applied in direct sunlight. 3x3 sections at a time.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Simply pick a day where it's cooler (anything near 68F is ideal) and work in the shade. Mobile detailers have no choice but to work with conditions (unless it's pouring rain outside) so yes it's possible.

[@soap3]

Hey Pan, I also live in Quebec, and I wonder if you do any kind of rust protection for your car?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

My brother did have his vehicle rust proofed at a Ziebart location if memory serves me well. For me, I get a brand new car every three years and they are usually German luxury vehicles that use higher end galvanized steel or aluminum so they actually don't recommend rustproofing those cars.

[@soap3]

@@PanTheOrganizer thanks 🙏

[@SoleMax23]

How long before applying a second layer? Hours…days?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

45-60 min max Mor better yet, get their new Max version which only requires one layer. See my review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHLGYapjYsidmqssi=si3oYRXLhKMBVm9M

[@ceasar5871]

Will you be doing an update on the Adams Graphene Advance coating you did a while back ?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I will have a 2 year update on that in the coming weeks for sure, so stay tuned.

[@nicholosk7280]

Yasou Pan, Thank you for your video. Could you please do a video with your brother Alex applying a ceramic coating on his car with your supervision? I am sure you have many inexperienced viewers who would like to watch and learn how to do it properly - I am one one them 😀. NiKOS

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You mean Andy? My brother's name is Andy (short for Andreas, a Greek name). I already have a video where he applied the coating to his own vehicle here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laHadoCCpsqhl7Msi=d65Li6jDxfxW_pH6

[@tracy2762]

i used stick gyeon about 3 months ago and its still doing the job..so easy to put on but a little pricey..i am out in sand and dirt all the time. washes come from mother nature.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You mean the Gyeon Wax?

[@tracy2762]

@@PanTheOrganizer yes

[@apinson9]

Pan, what’s your recommendation for a product to restore/protect exterior black trim?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

If the trim is faded and needs restoration and protection, this is the best: amzn.to/47aB8f9

[@apinson9]

What about on a new vehicle that just needs protection?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You would use this trim coating: bit.ly/3wUr86X