2 Years and 20,000 Miles, an off road review of the Lexus GX470 / Toyota Prado.

Join us as we take a drive in my 2008 Lexus GX470 and I share my experiences, both off-road and on-road with the GX470 platform. We will take a look at what I like and dislike, particularly from the viewpoint of off-road exploring and overlanding.

[@joelwilkins8695]

thanks for the review. Looked at your LX470 and Discovery reviews also. What length of the cargo space from behind the front passenger seat to tailgate in the GX and LX? I'm looking for a GX or LX overlander for one person to sleep inside of. I'm 5'9". thx.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Great question! The GX is about 60" with middle row folded. If you physically removed it, you'd can another 10". The LX is 63" with the middle row folded and if it was removed you'd gain 12".

[@Benallst]

5 11'' GX owner here, you'll have plenty of room to sleep inside if you either A. build a platform to go over the second row or B. remove the second row.

The GX is very nice and has sufficient length but does not have a fold-flat cargo area; the 2nd row seats stick out, and the 3rd row seats are in the way (but can be removed). That makes the GX unsuitable for sleeping in without modification. For this and other reasons, I have a 4th-gen 4Runner, built on the same Toyota 120 (Prado) platform in Tahara but a bit leaner, lighter, and less tall. The 5-seater with the double-decker cargo system folds completely flat and has sufficient length (I'm also 5'9"). If you get a V8 Limited, it will have a similarly entry-level luxury feel as the GX, and it has the same engine and full-time 4WD system. A nice and unique feature of the 4Runner is the rear hatch with the retractable window. The problem is that V8 Limited models are hard to find. You tend to get a vehicle in better condition for your money if you go with a GX. If you are OK with a lower trim level 4Runner, you'll have more choices.

[@Benallst]

@ sleeping without a platform drastically reduces the width regardless of fold flat because of the wheel wells, no?

@@Benallst ​Depends on your criteria, I guess. In the 4Runner, you have 42" between the wheel wells. I think that's a good width, and you can still go a bit diagonal if you're taller than, say, 5'10". No mod required at all, and it takes 30 seconds to fold the seats down, so this is perfect for someone who sleeps in the vehicle only occasionally. Nevertheless, I do have a (fully removable) platform consisting simply of storage totes (IRIS/Container Store) that match the height of the wheel wells (9"). I put a full-size IKEA mattress on top, which is wide enough for a couple. Xplorer Steve DIY has a discussion on the width vs. headroom tradeoff.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

This guy nailed it showing features.

[@theshowtime2375]

That grills gotta go.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Haha, we did the headlights first, now it's onto the grille!

[@Vikingocazar]

At least it’s not the new one!! How would you put a winch on a new one????

[@Skychi653]

😂😂😂

[@damilolaakanni]

The original grille looks best on these, IMO.

[@fredaydaybae8450]

Agree! It’s absolutely hideous.

[@whoisthishamster]

FINALLY SOMEONE WITH REAL REVIEWS!!

[@Uberragen21]

This makes me want a GX470 that much more.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

We still love it. My wife mentions it’s the best car we’ve owned. Over 180k miles now

[@comcamera91]

I like that I can stand on the rear bumper and access the back end of the roof rack, can’t do that with a lift gate. Coming from a Yukon, the lift gate does provide cover in the rain. There are pros and cons with EVERY vehicle but so far the GX has been a really fun vehicle to own...except at the gas pump.

[@bouchzx14]

Just bought a 2008 in pearl white. It was repainted under a lexus warranty for this color because it faded badly in the Miami sunshine. It has 140K miles and is comepletely rust free. I just replaced a leaking rack&pinion that was already replaced with a aftermarket part and changed all fluids. I have ordered Bilstein 5100 shocks the are ride height adjustable with slightly heavier front springs. Also ordered a rear OME rear spring conversion with a lift. Cant wait to install these parts myself and test.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Sounds like an awesome project!! Enjoy!

[@jasonmears4393]

Just bought a 2008 GX470 with a 170,000+ miles and Im absolutely loving it so far (except for the fuel mpg) there are times when I dont want to get out of it...Ill just sit there admiring the quality of the GX. LOL!!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

I had to steal the GX to commute in yesterday because there was ice from a spring cold-front all over my daily driver. I had forgotten how nice it was as a cruiser. I don't get to drive it much, it's my wife's daily and she still loves it.

[@glincho]

Owner of 2005 GX470. I love the barn style rear door. I carry kayaks and it’s easy to load them and access the gear in the back with the door opening to the side, easy maintenance and more reliable. I never had issues with the driver seat cushion, but I haven’t driven more than 5 hours strait. I love the beige interior and the quite comfortable cabin. This vehicle is engineered to the very little detail.

[@24barron]

This video is thorough and gives a useful walkthrough, much appreciated as a new gx owner.

[@Checo1]

How come you only have about 6k subscribers, you definatly deserve more than that.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Thanks for the compliment! Real life causes me to take some time away from regular posting and youtube really rewards those who post frequently. I'm still working on "upping my game" and hope to have some good vids out for 2021!

[@gerardwawo]

Definitely enjoyed the video. Exactly the kind of content I was looking to find on the GX. Now I want one.

[@spoonerific9341]

Awesome review. Really appreciate the attention to detail. Thanks!

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Happy Trails , Lexus made it that way. Happy is good , means no problems.

[@unionandmaincollective3321]

Had a 2005 GX 470 and was hit by a drunk driver at very high speed this weekend. All the airbags blew and I walked away just stiff and sore. Head on with a 5th gen 4runner. When we purchased, it spent a few weeks in the shop having everything sorted out. Only got to drive it 3 days before she was totaled. Thanks for your thorough review. Helped me make a life saving decision. Looking to replace it with another one ASAP.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Glad you are ok and ready to drive again!! How did the 4runner fare?

[@unionandmaincollective3321]

@@ForgottenWaypoints totaled the 4Runner as well. We both walked away though.

[@TundraOffRoad]

Great video, I have a 2018 GX and I absolutely love it! I will literally have it forever.

[@greasemonkey5025]

Love the underbelly technical vehicle component review with comparing vehicle specs, such a simple tool that makes world of a difference between other reviews, great job!!!!

[@thebigempty_5792]

genuine sheep skin seat cover for the drivers seat. warm in winter, cool in summer, adds a bit more padding on the bottom. best thing I did for my LX470 which has very comfortable seats to start with. I mainly did it to save the leather, but I was pleasantly surprised by all the benefits. Tip: pay more for the REAL sheep skin and the ones made vehicle specific, not the wal mart type.

[@richeyrich2203]

Where did you order yours?

[@j_white1305]

Best review of the GX I’ve seen, thanks. Getting one is on my radar as a second vehicle that fits my dogs better. And I subscribed!

[@johnpittman364]

We purchased a 06 GX 470 in July '20. Love the comfort, handling. We live in SC. Took a trip to UT in Sept. Stayed 17 days camping visiting nationals and states parks. Actually did a bit of off-roading in Moab area. Handled all of the obstacles well. In this video, you mentioned back fatigue. On the return trip, we put in 10-12 hour days. Neither me nor my wife experienced back fatigue. In fact, we were quite impressed with the overall comfort.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Awesome. There was only one trip so far where the fatigue really hit me. I didn't have much of an issue on a Disneyland run from Utah to Southern California. I shouldn't have harped on the seats as bad as I did, they aren't THAT bad. But they still aren't as plush as a Range Rover, or even on '03 Tahoe (arguably the best seats GM has ever made). Glad you love your GX, we love ours too (in fact I'm working on a quick moab trail review with the GX right now). Which trails did you take?

[@sgoldste02]

@@ForgottenWaypoints How many miles are on your GX? Do you think the foam in the seat bottom is getting tired and needs to be replaced?

[@phong333nguyen]

Thank you for great reviews

[@Paiadakine]

Thanks for the review.

[@romocolorado67]

Dude that was an amazing review great job

[@alexgreen8833]

Great review! I’ve had a 2005 GX470 for a year and learned some new things in your video. Def appreciated pointing out the different parts of the undercarriage.

[@j_white1305]

I thought that was well done, something I haven’t seen in other videos unless someone puts it on a lift and points things out.

[@phillipcarlson7071]

Best video on the gx470, and you can tell you know about more then one car man keep it up

[@stevenyoung3360]

Getting the 2.5 inch lift for mine this week and a little bigger Tires because the ride height went out. My wife drives it, and she's only 4'11 but she drove my lifted 4 runner for a long time and was good with it so it should be nice.

[@FilmMavericks]

Great review! Thanks!

[@trevorkinzer7918]

Great review! We have a GX460 and a GX470. Both excellent vehicles. The best we have owned. We lifted the 460 but the 470 remains bone stock. It deserves to be as Toyota made it. Great video.

[@xJG91x]

Amazing video man. Thank you.

[@blainestreeter5483]

GX off-road is fantastic...especially washboard roads. Yes. The fronts need more thigh support for m. My back is fine for long trips, though I’m 5’9”. Very well pleased with our GX.

[@jairozhu941]

Really looking forward to the comp against the LX 470

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

Excellent GX review 👏

[@tylermartelle7041]

I love how the second row isn't even clipped into place and you still don't hear it making any kind of noise lol. Lexus is truly on another level.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Hahah, I didn't even know until I got back and reviewed the footage, and that was driving off road!

[@bigwavedave2550]

Thank you for the good honest review, looking forward to more content on this rig! I test drove a really nice 08 GX this past weekend, felt almost new at 95k miles. Dealer must have thought they had a goldmine with it priced at 19k! But it was nice to finally drive one and put hands on things I'd only seen in videos. Hoping to source a 05'+ with a bit more mileage for closer to 12k to turn into a family explorer!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Ours was $15k, but the previous owner had a large dog and the interior was a bit rough. But that's how we got a $5k discount!! They are starting to hold their value, but luckily that 2uz-fe will go forever, so just get a clean one in your price range and budget a timing belt/cooling overhaul and you should be good.

[@CruisinMiles]

Awesome review. I want to do a review like this in my gx460 and 80 series for my channel now. 👍

[@overlander6117]

Even with a bad looking I still trust the GX’s reliability.Thanks a lot for the details.

[@aznazguy]

A bad looking _______

[@qx4n9e1xp]

I want a G-wagon, but I'm also broke, so I'll buy this instead! It looks absolutely wonderful in black.

[@johnnybouvier3133]

Good choice. The G wagon is bullet proof, but one of the most uncomfortable vehicles I’ve ever been in

[@Vikingocazar]

@@johnnybouvier3133 not as reliable as the Lexus

[@johnnybouvier3133]

@@Vikingocazar agreed. I love mine.

[@alanmay7929]

@@johnnybouvier3133 the gwagon is not bullet proof

[@jackievarughese3945]

Bro, I've driven a G Wagon. I used to want one until I drove it, it's so uncomfortable to me, I hate it now, LOL

[@TRDGE]

This man loves his ride. If you don't sound and look like this, it's time for a new ride.

[@Charmander606]

Thank you for the video

[@JRudd]

Can’t wait for the gx lx comparison.

[@GXKid06]

3:58 I actually owned a non sport 2006 gx with kdss. It was available as a separate option but rarely optioned as a stand alone option.

[@kriscarmelo]

Great job with the video. I love the worms eye view from below.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Thanks, I hope to incorporate that into future vids.

[@MrRitchiecraig]

Just bought a GX470! This was a good, real world review for folks that really use their cars. Well done.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

How do you like your new ride?

[@MrRitchiecraig]

@@ForgottenWaypoints I have not been able to drive it much since it needs a few repairs. Thus far, I really like the smoothness and tightness of the drivetrain and suspension.

[@Americancitizen1]

The first thing I did on our 2008 GX 470 was remove those rear seats and put them at the curb. I like the swing open hatch as my wife likes to stand up there and take panoramic pictures. It works great! Cannot do that with the hatch but maybe from the side door. My only nit to pick with the seats is that they don’t go back far enough. An inch and a half to 2 inches further back would be perfect for me. Otherwise I can get perfect adjustment out of it

[@zachtravers1]

I got my 2009 GX470 about 3 months ago. My biggest complaint is the seats as well. My biggest issue is I just don't feel like they move far enough back for me. I have the seat all the way back and as low as it goes, I'm only 6', but with long legs and I just can't seem to get comfortable. I'm going to look into possibly adjusting the seat rails.

[@nicolatesla2315]

A lot of great info. Liked and subscribed

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Thanks for watching!!! I need to get more (and have planned) more vehicle reviews! Thanks for watching!

[@woolengrappler]

Great review! The current GX460 has horribly low bodywork, I like the bodywork on this older generation much better. The current GaX460 approach angle is 21 degrees...

[@saakiaskani]

Great SUV Love GX470👌

[@averagecadaver5203]

Just found this video and recently purchased a gx460. I love the barn door a lot more than the lift gate I had on my 4runner.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

How do you like the 460?? I nearly ordered a nori Green black line. We love the GX

[@averagecadaver5203]

@@ForgottenWaypoints I have the 2011 model, but I absolutely love it. I wouldn't hesitate buying the nori green black line in the future. That color is awesome

[@mr2gud2u]

Great review! I have been searching for a real on and offroad 470 review to include a 3rd row review. Great work!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Check out the Imogene and Granby Lakes vid to see more shots off road. The Into Awapa is more of an easier overland trip, but also has good shots. Thanks for watching!!

[@dwaconsulting1609]

Wonderful review. I'm looking at GX470 2005 and 2007.

[@driojal]

Stay with the Non-vvti version.

[@tangomarty]

@@driojal why?

[@driojal]

@@tangomarty I noticed that my non-vvti is doing better MPG than my wife's vvti one. And it is simpler, few less things to worry about. But it is not a deal breaker really, that's just personal opinion

[@AD-zy5gr]

Great personality, great Car and great reviews 👍, I'm looking 2015 to2018 Gx 470 or 460. Thank you.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

A 460 would be sweet, we'd like to get one someday

[@darrenzueger2]

Subscribed! Great Vid!

[@davidwayne9982]

There is also an extended size gas tank available for it too.. and I WILL be getting one..

[@lowaterninja]

Really great review! I am looking to get one myself. Hope they don't go up in value until I do. I've had several Toyotas and will never go anywhere else for our family's vehicles. That said, I feel as though the bouncy back seat (not latched clearly) during the latter part of the video is so YOTA. It's like getting the perfect latch is critical and you (as the owner) are the one who needs to learn how to get it right, not Toyota... no doubt better than dealing with the insane issues common of 'domestic' vehicles. Glad to see the GX470 works okay on longer trips with a family of three. I am interested in how three car seats work in these though, since that's a real deal for our fam and the reason I need a different vehicle. I hope you keep these videos going. Nice work!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

They are already starting to rise in value! I hope you can swing one, they are excellent vehicles.

[@GXOverland]

Yes! Great job. Best bang for the buck out there for daily, off-roading or overlanding.

[@VCV_Travel]

Thanks a lot for your videos. I have a LandCruiser Prado (GX470) turbo diesel intercooler in Brazil, but I'm being transferred to Colorado next month, so I'm studying which car to buy there. I'm between the GX470, LX470 and Sequoia 1st gen. Your videos have been very helpful!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Can't go wrong with anything that has that V8!!

[@VCV_Travel]

@@ForgottenWaypoints Yeah!

[@salembirdnerd]

Can wait to see the GX/LX comparison, I'm subscribing just to see that. I'm the the market for those or a V8 4runner and can't find any good videos comparing the GX/LX

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Thanks! Sorry for the delay on that video. We've been discussing it and filming content, but real life has making it's production a little longer than we would have liked!

[@tmwei396]

I like the barn door side opening tailgate because I have a rear opening roof box. So with the tailgate out of the way I can step up on to the rear section and access the roof box.

[@jeremycochran3668]

Great review, love to try these with the 4.7 v8, had a 2007 3.0d prado averaged about 23mpg, 2016 3.0d prado averaged about 25mpg. Both were fairly gutless. Currently got a 200 series 4.5d twin turbo get about 20mpg hway and 16mpg towing 3t load.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Ours aren't gutless, but they are very thirsty!

[@tktnidjet]

Where do you live? I’m currently looking at a ‘96 Prado KZJ95 (US 25 yr import rules…), but I was worried about the 1KZ-TE only being a 3l straight 4 with tiny stats compared to other Toyota gas and even diesel engines of comparable vintage… Prado seems to be the red headed step child of LC family when it comes to diesel engine options…

[@lolotus4borderless]

Superb review ,❤️

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Thanks!

[@bergi85]

I love my front seat on the GX. I'm 6'3" 210lbs and haven't had any issues with the front seat, I think it is very comfortable. Interesting the differences in opinion in that. Great review!

[@richardsmart120]

bergi85 completely agree, I’ve completed a UK to France to Belgium and back in total comfort with no issues at all.

[@redbear1935]

newer had problems with seat in long drives , you have to adjust it to your body right .

[@JH-qy7zw]

I find the seats nearly unbearable on drives longer than 3 hours. I’m only 5’11”... interesting how differently people experience the same seats.

[@scrable3313]

Funny the fuel range issue you mention in the gx470. I live in australia, the prado 120 version i have has a smaller engine it is a 3 litre turbo diesel 4 cylinder, it could do with some more horses under there. It does have additional fuel tank where the spare is on yours., about 47 gal in total over 2 tanks. Fill ups make me sad, they dont happen too often though. I can put half a paycheck into those tanks from near empty. Anyway range is 1600km which is 1000 miles. One of the things i love most about the vechicle is the range. It does 10.5 litres per 100k. Thanks for the video, and thanks for a real review. Thanks

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Awesome! I'm jealous of the Prado's rear tire carrier too.

[@BackroadExploration]

Just watched this again. Excellent review with incredible detail. I really don’t love the look of the front. It’s just to short and sloped like a crossover, not a deal breaker by any means but it’s the only thing I don’t like. Best review out there!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

The front is almost a deal breaker for me...it's just...too....happy! But I love the inside.

[@wet-werk2691]

Mine has absolutely grown on me, probably because I love the increase in visibility and now I see all other trucks as trying to hard and seeing less in front

[@chuckfrazier2007]

Bought a 2004 GX470 in 2003 and now has just 118k miles. Never off-roaded, fully maintained and pristine condition. Will never sell it. Best car I’ve ever owned and at 70 years old have owned a lot of cars. You won’t ever regret buying one. A lot of parts are relatively cheap and last for years. As for gas mileage, I use Lucas Fuel Treatment and get about 21 MPG in town and 27 on highways. Also makes it run smooth.

[@flipperbooch2194]

Okay I’m gonna need an explanation of how youre getting 20 in this thing. I’m thinking of getting one but the mpg is the only thing I have an issue with.

[@larryhorton9534]

You asked for seating comments/preferences: I recently moved from many years in a 2001 Audi allroad 2.7 twin turbo with 6 speed manual. I typically like a laid back seating position with arms out in front of me and thighs well supported. I've just moved into a 2008 GX470-obviously an entirely different ballgame. Haven't taken any all daydrives yet, but given the 470's interior geometry, I'm surprised to find myself preferring the seat nearly as high as it goes (I'm 5’ 9”), with seat front as high as it goes for thigh support, lumbar support about halfway, and the steering wheel low and adjusted so I can easily see everything on the dashboard without moving my head. The top of the wheel doesn't even enter into the windshield's view. I love the amazing visibility the seat height brings, and I really enjoy the humongous side view mirrors. Looking forward to learning more about the car. It doesn't have KDSS, which is a good thing, but I'd sure like to find a way to beef up the sway bars! Thanks for your insights and thorough coverage!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

I think I'll try raising my seat and see if I like that better.

[@larryhorton9534]

I made the discovery while driving. Thought I had it where I wanted it, but tried raising it a little higher-and liked it. Had to correct other adjustments to compensate for the seatbelt now too tight. Drove a little further. Tried higher. Repeat. I did this 4-5 times until I found myself pretty much at the limit. I was blown away with the view-and comfort. If I don’t have really good thigh support, I start getting cramps in tibialis anterior. This option also gives me the best, most complete thigh support.

[@mr.virak168]

Thank for Share

[@driojal]

@ Forgotten Waypoints If you want the GX to let you play and fish tail, you have to unplug one of the ABS sensors and that will disable the ABS and traction control.

[@driojal]

Also forgot to tell you that you could hit the 2nd start when you are on 4Low to prevent that 1st to 2nd gear change since most likely you won't need to be on 1st gear on 4Low. Just my 2 Cents.

[@maniac32145]

Nice, my 2013 prius v second row seat 60/40 you can recline even more, and slide forward and back almost one foot!

[@LLCoolPass]

My GX 470 identifies as a Prius.

[@plutonium9]

Crap, I always thought the RSCA button was "Roll Stability Control Assist" but you are correct!

[@davidmojonnier1034]

Another good one. Agree with everything you pointed out. We've been a GX470/ Taco couple for 15 years. My wife loves her GX (Second One). I'm in the hunt for an LX. Thanks

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Thanks! Good luck on the LX quest. They are both awesome vehicles.

[@arailtb]

Great review. I've been using my 2008 GX as a daily driver since Jan 2017. Running 275/70s (STMaxx) and the same TRD wheels. No lift, but running boards removed and SSO sliders welded on. I take mine on 5+ hour road trips regularly and I agree that the front seats leave a LOT to be desired! Especially with rear-facing car seats in the second row haha. Really fun to drive otherwise.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

I've often thought I've been overly harsh on the GX front seats, but we just did a 5 hour round trip drive last week and....yup....the seats are just not great. Especially compared to the LX (which I daily drive). That said, the GX is awesome in stock trim! I need to get sliders though! Thanks for watching!

[@masonrowley7268]

I wasn't really a fan of the seats either. Though they were worlds better than my old Tacoma's seats. I did find that seat risers in the front really helped the comfort though. Makes them more like a bucket seat and takes off my lower back and butt.

[@thebigempty_5792]

AHC goes from High to Normal at 19mph. / I had an Ironman 4x4 Foam Cell Pro installed on my 99 LX470. It's a beast of a set up. It's much better than a nitrogen shock and has more oil than even some remote res. shocks. Metal Tech upper/lower rear arms, SPC uca, extended sway bar links. Rides much better than my stock AHC. FYI, my LX had 288K and the AHC still worked.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

I need to get the swaybar extensions up front.

[@on-site4094]

Most of these have been bought and used as mall crawlers but there great off road vehicles

[@TyrannicalReigner]

The wood trim is not fake.

[@Mr_blueridge21]

You’re not the only one to be disappointed in the front seats, but I just covered 2800 miles in 4 days driving solo, and was pleasantly surprised. Actually raising the seat and sitting more upright helped the most and my only complaint was the thigh support. Also 6’1”. My longest day was 18 hours and I definitely enjoyed setting up camp that evening. Nice truck!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Sitting upright helps. I need to raise the seat. We did a long road trip through Idaho in it, and it wasn't bad...it's just no LX or Range Rover seat!!

[@ctbt1832]

Damn good video

[@johnqpublic3319]

How about a 19,000 mile in 9 months review of a 2008 GX 470? True story! Bought it March 7, 2020 it’s now December 16, 2020. Bought it with 172,000 and change miles and now has 191,000 miles. We put tires on it, and RCI skid plate because it didn’t have the original one and I changed the water pump and timing belt. This truck has been awesome!

[@adamgtrap]

I went driving down some gravel roads (not rutted or anything) recently, with corrugations here and there. I drive a buick, and it was great. But I got stuck behind a jeep that was going SO SLOW. It was quite annoying.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Corrugations with a solid axle is night and day vs IFS. The Jeep needed to go faster, but if you aren't comfortable with that, you go slow and it makes it worse.

[@crv20051]

It is a great vehicle, but the range of this vehicle really is crazy low. As you say, extra gas is essential. Should be a 30 gallon tank. Fun review, thanks for posting.

[@tangomarty]

Could you solve the seat problem witha switch? maybe a lx seat? or move the rails back?

[@iseeu2002]

I love my tundra more still. I just got that last saturday its on my utube channel. The 2012 rock warrior is awesome. Got the crew cab.

[@estebanjr11]

Got to let the car roll back on neutral to release the bind in the system for it to shift smooth into 4L

[@davidteo9146]

Still looking forward to that nuanced review between the 100 LX and the GX470!

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

I'm sorry for the delay!

[@davidteo9146]

@@ForgottenWaypoints life happens man! I’m new to your channel and really appreciate your in-depth-ness

[@vkhiev]

The LX lift gate is my favorite

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

It truly is the most useful

[@drjhunter]

The KDSS system addresses all your complaints about comfort mode and wanting more articulation etc. just 10% of gx470 had the sport package however and hard to find

[@Kajacot]

Wonderful review but your transfer case shouldn't grind going into 4L if you're stopped and in neutral. That combined with how long it took for the central diff lock to engage tells me you have transfer case issues. Check your fluid. It should only take 2 flashes for the CDL to engage and going into low should be smooth. These transfer cases leak fluid from the actuator seal, and only hold 1.5 qts of fluid, do it's super easy to run low or dry. Mine was grinding going into 4L and took forever to turn on the center diff, until I checked the transfer case and saw it was bone dry.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Thanks. Something was odd in that clip (it even suprised me). I was out on the same trail the other day and swapped it into low and it was so smooth, I thought I was still in neutral. The CDL also shifted fast. I'm about due for a t-case oil swap anyway, so this will be a good time. But we've been off road quite a bit since the review, and the review was the only time it struggled to get into 4Lo. I must have had it bound or rolling slightly in neutral (foot not all the way on the brakes) when filming and didn't know it. I agree, the gear shifting is incredibly smooth, especially if you're used to Jeeps.

[@thunderfromdownunda]

Favorite part of the video was you explaining the rear loading sequence while using your head to hold the lift gate open. Too accurate.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

The struggle is real!!

[@jameskocks4734]

cool truck but i own a 2005 4runner with the V8 and its 2wd and im in Texas and the truck has always been in Texas so has very little rust underneath im more than happy it being spartan in its features. i do fully understand the appeal of this vehicle as i have looked at them many times and i am watching this video. not for me though. i had a 2012 taco also 2wd. i drove to Colorado in the summer time a few times with that truck with all terrains without issues.

[@gerardofierro379]

Did you have to do any modifications to get those wheels and tires on the GX? Looking for same wheel set up with out lifting or modification so is it possible?

[@smokey2459]

Try Tire Rack’s on-line advisor, either by test or by phone. If they can’t answer you, find a 4x4 off-road store nearby. Will save you time and $$$.

[@bcatz454]

So compared to the 100 series, the GX470 seats are more fatiguing? And the 100, you can drive for longer distances without your back and body getting as tired as the GX470s?

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

In my opinion, yes. The AHC of the LX, being hydraulic is also more comfortable. Now, with my lift and tires on the LX, some of that equalizes, but the seats in the LX are superior.

[@Agent.K.]

SC14 Wider seats and more leg space in the LX.

[@Ulghart]

I love the GX models, and I am actually looking for one. Now, here is the real thing: A good clean one, between 05' and 09', no rust, is about $ 13k - 16k. Now, for $ 17k - 20k, you can get GX460, models 10' - 12' with same or less miles on it. It newer, better mpg, and as far as I know, the 4.6L is also very reliable. With these prices in today market, what would you buy? Thanks for your input !

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

GX460 has a lot going for it, but the newer the 460 the harder it is to make it off road capable thanks to all the absurd Lexus body cladding. If you can get a 2010 or so, it might be tempting. If you are thinking for primarily an off road exploring rig, there is a lot to be said for staying with the 470. If it were me, it'd boil down to the best vehicle for the price. A low mile 470 for $15k can be built out quite a bit with the $5k you'd save jumping up to a 460....so in the end it depends on intended use and budget.

[@Ulghart]

@@ForgottenWaypoints Yep, it makes sense. Thanks for taking time to answer !

[@Ww8.3]

Defiantly get older if you want an easy conversion into a trail rig. I was looking at newer 460’s (2015-2018) as I wanted a newer car and for the price I couldn’t justify having to rip the air suspension and body siding off a nearly $35k car. Ended up with a new Tacoma off-road for same price.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

@@Ww8.3 , Tacoma's are seriously a bargain in the new off road rig world. Same with the 4runner, if you can find a dealer who hasn't marked it up.

[@freeinFL]

Towards the end of your video, I notice that the second row seats are moving (kind of jiggling) as you drive. Is this normal, or were they not locked into place? This is a very informative video. Thank you for posting….

[@ggergg6423]

Not locked

[@davidwayne9982]

THANK GOD for LEVERS.. I hate KNOBS to change gears- or those damn flappy paddles in some vehicles.. crap like that should be OUTLAWED.. ha. I want one of these-- I was looking a an xj jeep and modifying it-- but the money for that is actually MORE than buying and modifying ONe of these- if you get a good one-- and they (jeeps) are notorious for NOT lasing very long- or being problems on wheels.. which is why I decided on one of these.. and was also looking at LX460 and after seeing both of your reviews-- I want the GX.... THANKS

[@The_Touring_Jedi]

I have Prado 120 4.0 V6 2005 with 135k like shown at 1:15 min. same colour 5 seat with full spec which includes KDSS also and everything else like GX except no sunroof. The car is awesome.On road or off road it makes me smile everytime. Enough torque and with central diff you can plounge trough 1meter of snow without a problem. The 120 or GX470 are the last of their kind. Prado 150 has in my opinion not the same quality and is not that solid build like 120. New LC 150 is just more comfort and that's it. Everything else is missing.Prices of GX and 120 are now sky rocketing. I won't sell my for a very long time.

[@armandosinger]

Birth your GX and LX reviews are great. I’m looking at both. Do you still plan on doing that LX vs GX video?

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

Yes! I do! It's been delayed so much for various dumb reasons (mainly getting both together at the same time in a presentable state!). I'm sorry it's not out yet.

[@armandosinger]

@@ForgottenWaypoints Fantastic! No worries. I got the basics from your gx and lx reviews. I think I’m leaning lx. I’m curious, too, about your thoughts on the 100 vs 200 series lx. I like the look of the pre-2008 200 series better, and I gather the the seats are a bit more comfy, have arm rests. And there’s a bit better road view over the hood, and the rear seats are easier to remove. The 200 series looks more bloated, has a much more powerful engine, more modern tech like adaptive cruise control, a cooler, etc. It seems most online prefer the newer 200 series, but some prefer the older 100.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

@@armandosinger , I actually haven't wheeled a 200 series yet, but test drove a few. A few thoughts: My LX470 interior build quality looks better than early 200 series land cruisers (not LX). I was shocked. Later LC200s seemed to up their interior game. I prefer the LX570 interior to all trims, it's just awesome. It's just too bad the outside of the LX570 isn't as good as the LC200. I prefer the exterior looks of the LC200, especially the later versions. I like how the LX470/100 has removable seats. You can remove them in the LC200, but there isn't a quick release. That is a downgrade, IMO. I prefer the coil-over suspension to the LC100. I also like that the 5.7 has a chain and I don't have to deal with timing belts. If money weren't an issue, I'd have an LC200 or LX570.

[@Youtuube304s]

Had no idea the dimensions on the frame were different from the land cruisers. Interesting.

[@bronwynfloyd8252]

My son and I really appreciate this review! We're very seriously looking to get a 470 for my daily driver and over road rig. My son has been pushing me this direction for a while now. My question is does it require premium gas?

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

If you want the stated how/torque. I've been running 85 (what passes for 87 here in Utah) for over 50,000 miles with no issues.

[@bronwynfloyd8252]

@@ForgottenWaypoints thank you so much for your reply!

[@timglascock5558]

Great review! Been thinking about a GX470 or 2010+ 4runner to replace my 06 Liberty CRD. You said mid-teens for overall MPG, what do you normally get on the highway compared to offroad? This would be my adventure rig so miles mainly on the highway and forest roads (I'm in Oregon). Currently, I get mid 20s on the highway (got 28 on a recent 200 mile trip at 75-80mph but once I hit the city, it drops quick) and about 17 on the trails (I wish there were more diesel SUVs like these!). The main reason for the switch is the driver comfort for me at 6'3" is terrible. I can't see out the front windshield without craning my neck down and the seats are crappy (no lumbar). Plus I'm heading over 160k and know that my fairly reliable Jeep is entering into the realm of less reliability. I'd love something slightly larger like this or the 4runner but the MPG is the kicker, especially with this taking premium and being permanent 4wd. What are your thoughts? Did you consider a 4runner, especially one with the updated 4.0l?

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

I wanted the 4runner, but I love my leather (and newer TRDs were out of my price range). My wife wanted a V8 AND the GX was much cheaper (or same price) than cloth 4runners at the same year/mileage in my area. I was getting 17-18mpg highway on street tires. That dropped when I put the larger off road tires on. I'd have to re calculate, but my guess is 16-17 is all I'm getting.

[@ForgottenWaypoints]

You just won't get the mpg of a v6, no matter how you slice it