2-years with the Roughhouse 50cc 2-stroke Scooter from Genuine Scooter Company R50

The 2nd anniversary of me buying the RoughHouse 50 Sport scooter. How has it held up in 2 years and over 1200 miles? Have I had any problems? What are my likes and dislikes now that I've had significant time on the saddle? All these questions are answered in this video.
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[@razkrunk3169]

I'm looking forward to more scooter content. I'd love to see some coverage on classic scoots like a Vespa Primavera or even a Honda Ruckus. Maxi scooters would also make interesting content.

[@SuperQueenV.]

Awesome! Can't wait for more on the 50cc's.

[@joshuaanothereraseddad]

Thanks for the video sir. Gotta give the lil bugger credit, it actually pulled that post bridge hill pretty alright!

[@jered2177]

Love the scooter content, thank you

[@joeldavila3185]

Cool scooter with a modern look. I test drove a scooter. So easy to operate and fun! Cool video.

[@aaronbehindbars]

I love 2T scooters, so much fun! They have a lot of potential performance if you like doing mods. I like that with scooters in general you can play with the acceleration and top speed without teching the engine. Myself, I juat have a problem not having anything to squeeze between my knees. I'm a life-long motorcycle rider, so it's what I'm used to. I wouldn't mind picking up a Honda Navi since you get a scooter that looks like a motorcycle.

[@49684]

Nice, I have the RHS50, my wife’s got the buddy 50. We use them for daily city commute. 😊👊

[@van_demonium]

Awesome to hear you had a passport. I too had a c70 as well as c90's, ct90,110 as well as a few scooters. A couple of Jogs. One an 85 with 1700 miles and the other is a 93 with 8k miles. Both have had minimum maintenance over the years. I always liked the Roughhouse. Its as close to the classics that you can get in a modern model.

[@KevCentral]

My uncle had it. He just let us ride it. Honestly, I think he kept it just for us. Also, I misspoke. It wasn’t a Passport. It was an old Honda Express. Growing up, we had a friend with a Yamaha Razz. He crashed it and refused to ride it again, but was too embarrassed to tell his mom he wouldn’t ride it, so he would bring it to my place for everyone else to ride. I think me and another kid spent the better part of multiple summers taking that thing all over the place 😂

[@harrygrimley4352]

Very interesting. Thank you

[@minnesotasteve]

I used to have a Scarabeo 150 which was pretty fun. Had a motorcycle license for it and it’s top speed was about 55 mph but I still didn’t want to take it on any highways.

[@scooterstop2736]

Super video on a super scooter. Very informative from a personal riding standpoint. Highly suggest you watch the whole video.

[@austinkidd-smith]

Need more motorbike/scooter content

[@drewnewcomb2909]

Thank you for this, thought they were a cheap Chinese type scooter, didnt realize they were a rebadge of something reputable from Taiwan. I'm a Honda fan so still not completely sold much of anything else can stand up to their reliability, longevity and quality but maybe if I found one for cheap it would be worth checking out!

[@Sylvan_dB]

Seems to me the 50cc class is covered fairly well by (perhaps not quite legal) e-bikes. They claim about 2HP which would be similar to a 1500watt electric motor. The big advantage of the 2 stroke is the incredible range and fast refueling compared to battery power.

[@GPz84]

Take of restriction and you got 4 HP.

[@frank9301]

I love it because its a 2 stoke! Love the sound and smell! I wish it was just a little bigger engine!

[@KevCentral]

This has a catalyzed exhaust. It’s the first 2-stroke I’ve owned that doesn’t smell like a 2-stroke. It doesn’t even smoke aside from startup. They used to have a similar bike called the Rattler Buck-Ten. I would have loved to get one of those. 110cc 2-stroke

[@johnw65]

I have a Taiwanese cousin of the Genuine Scooter called a KYMCO People S200 that's a great ride and a lot of fun!

[@KevCentral]

I’ve always liked the Kymco Agility and Super 8. A few years ago they had an orange/blk color scheme that looked great!

[@johnw65]

@@KevCentral We also have a 2005 KYMCO Venox, One of the nicest 250cc cruisers ever made.

[@johnw65]

@@KevCentral We also have a 2005 KYMCO Venox. One of the nicest 250cc V-Twin cruisers ever made. I've had it well over a 100mph on the turnpike...

[@linojrfilms1561]

I personally love the 2 strokes i have an up bored 90cc honda dio with alot of mods, also a 70cc zuma 2 strokes, small bike world

[@bradleyyounger8499]

I put a stage6 streetrace cylender and the genuine upgrade exhaust and would do an indicated 65ish. Actual gps was around 55. The best part was the lack of speed drop going up hills

[@Charli3Espinoza]

Just got my 2022 RH50 from a private seller with only 242 mi. Please post more content! I’m clueless about maintenance for the RH50. I’m a visual learner, I’d love to see DIY step by step vids. This one is great! Thank you @KevCentral!

[@Charli3Espinoza]

I’d feel more confident knowing exactly how to refill the 2-stroke oil. Changing the gear oil. Headlight bulb change, adding brake oil, etc. Thank you!

[@KevCentral]

Congrats on the new scoot!

[@NjoyMoney]

@@KevCentral You should look into mods, you can easily make this go 50mph without breaking a sweat, real GPS speed. Cylinder kit, bigger carb and exhaust, thats it.

[@danieljoyce4844]

i have had one for 3 yrs now and it always starts it has never failed me one time usually first try start right up even after sitting all winter...i have lil over 5 thousand miles on mine bout time to start modding it now i have used the stock pipes

[@KevCentral]

Thanks for sharing

[@matthewnorris203]

It’s bulletproof and that’s the main thing. I personally would get a 2011 Yamaha Zuma and fix the issues on it. They have tons of parts.

[@user-my9hr3kh5d]

I have a 2003 Yamaha Vino 50cc with a 70cc kit. It goes 50 mph. Has 7000 miles on it.

[@rubendevereaux6086]

Those things look like tons of fun, but why I'm on two wheels with a motor I'm used to a 600cc crotch rocket that I used to have. Maybe in my old age I will slow it down

[@Manwichman]

They tune the things with the roller weights, clutch springs and drive face on the variator. Tuning the cvt can add 5mph to a scooter

[@KevCentral]

There is lots of upward potential with a 2-stroke, but I was referring to stock bikes. They won’t do the 50+mph people claim theirs will do right off the show room floor. The speedo might say they’re inching up to 50, but scooter speedos are overly optimistic. I saw someone with an Aprilia SR-50 (heavily modified) that had multiple gps verified runs at 70mph. It cost them about 10k to do, but it is possible 🤑

[@larrbaII]

This scooter has not changed in years, i have a 2017 with 5,698 miles and for the most part 'Shop free'. Unrestricted,this Engine with the stock CVT will net you a true 45MPH with the 10" wheel. Put on the 12" wheel as stock with the Roughhouse Sport R50 and you have a true 50MPH top end ( rider + gear=150Ibs's). If GS would put EFI on this one (for winter start-up's) that would nice.

[@Me-eb3wv]

Thanks for the info man, I do genuinely appreciate it because the street outside my house has a 40 MPH limit but everyone goes 45-50, so knowing that this scooter can handle those roads puts me at ease

[@twloughlin]

I've run the scooter gamut: Puch Maxi, Yamaha Razz, Kymco 125, and my current Kymco Downtown 300i. I use the 300i to get from small town to small town on 55MPH roads, and ebikes for local errands and such. I love both means of transport, but in the end I think electric will win out due mainly to its greener profile.

[@KevCentral]

Electric needs a battery evolution. 6-8 hours to recharge to get another 30-45 miles of use (average electric scooter) isn’t going to cut it

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

@@KevCentral That recharge time could be cut down today by using a BMS that accepts faster charging. Some e-motorcycles now can accept fast car chargers. Other than expense there's nothing stopping faster charging for smaller electric mobility devices.

[@KevCentral]

There are battery limitations on how fast some cells can safely be charged. For anything that can accept a supercharge. That’s a large infrastructure investment that would need to add to a riders house - which just isn’t viable for most Americans. I think electric will become viable for anything other than a specific subset of drivers/riders when we get battery technology that can be fully charged in 2-3 minutes. Even with that there’s the electrical grid to consider; which isn’t ready to support the massive demand. Maybe one day, and I like the idea and would love to play around with some electric scoots, but it’s more a novelty at this point, IMO.

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

@@KevCentral All you say is true. I was thinking more of public charging which is still not common for motorcycles & far off for scooters. That doesn't detract from the fact that most cells are not as limited as their battery management systems are. This is evident on a smaller scale in e-bikes. Batteries with the same 18650 cells may come with a max charge rate of anywhere from 2 to 5 amps depending on BMS. That rate is determined by the BMS not the cells. Not all battery packs can handle the 5 amp charge but those that can will charge in less than half the time than those limmited to 2 amps.

[@twloughlin]

@@KevCentral I think the infrastructure for electric scoots will not be built around recharging, but battery swapping. That will reduce the need for homeowners to install recharging equipment, and will also be what allows apartment dwellers in cities (where scooters make the most sense) to easily use escooters. I'm sure you're aware about Gogoro; I think that's the way to think about escooters in the future, not recharging at home like ebikes.

[@Marsail0]

What’s your opinion of adding the big bore kit they offer?

[@pauldavis8743]

How important is that tube for venting on the muffler.mine is bypassed with a bolt

[@jacklo325]

Back home, usually 50cc is enough to ride in congested cities. 100cc is probably a little safer to ride in your area.

[@campervanbug7658]

After i put a pipe on mine i can hold 35 up most hills 42 on flat. Over 2,000 miles in less than 2 months 😊

[@TonyTonyTony461]

I lost my license being stupid but I'm looking to get a scooter. I used to have a 50cc zuma it was a very good bike. But I been looking at these. Would you recommend this scooter for a everyday use for 6 months? My commute to work will a average around 20 miles a day back and forth. I appreciate it thanks

[@lovemye36]

I am going back to look at $400 bikes and am I safe to say the trouvaille is my best bet?

[@sterossi9781]

It's a copy of the Italian minarelli horizontal from 30 years ago 😂 no problem from the parts, are completely the same

[@DGC2004]

Did you think about getting the G400c motorcycle also known as mash overseas? I want a thorough reviewer like you lol

[@KevCentral]

Lol. Thanks. When it first came out I considered it, but I’m a scooter guy

[@howisitfliping713]

I love how that is a copy of a pgo pmx sport just diftend look

[@KevCentral]

It is made by PGO. A rebrand for the US market

[@geraldscott4302]

The flat black is the one reason I wouldn't buy it. If it were gloss red I'd be interested. I'm really starting to get sick of not being able to find a scooter or motorcycle anywhere that isn't at least mostly flat black.

[@nathandalke9318]

Beats a 50 cc tao tao in silver definitely Chinese crap what I got for $700 bought it in 2018 it's a 2017 has 4200 miles on it already having problems with it enjoyed watching

[@jeffmartin4238]

Just looked up this scooter. It's currently going for $3,300 USD. For that kind of money I'd rather get a used car not a 49cc scooter. I'm sure there are lots of cheaper options out there.

[@pauld5631]

65 year old looking at scoots. Love the 150-200 class, but got cart before the horse as I don’t have my M lic yet. Looked at this bike vs Liberty 50 efi t4.

[@pauld5631]

Sorry…… your thoughts

[@KevCentral]

How fast do you need to go?

[@pauld5631]

@@KevCentral 45-50

[@pauld5631]

@@KevCentral I guess I need to know, if you can get much more out of a 4 stroke vs 2

[@KevCentral]

Two stroke you only have one option Genuine’s 50cc, but I would suggest looking at 125 or 150cc if you need to go 45-50. A 50cc (even 2-stroke) would need to be modified to reach those speeds and that reduces reliability. Plus, even modified you’re still running them at high rpm all the time just to get there. 125/150 can easily hold 40+mph where I have to struggle to get there on my 50cc under ideal circumstances (flat ground, no headwind, etc)

[@09Zufar]

My Grido Race 50cc 2T goes 70 km/h sustained. Unrestricted from my dealer.

[@KevCentral]

I’m not familiar with that brand. Where are they sold?

[@jamesgreen1614]

I've seen these little 2 stroke 50cc scooters go for over 3k out the door, nowhere near worth that amount of money for what it is, 2 stroke or not, I don't care who made it. For that price they can keep the last of the 2 strokes.

[@KevCentral]

That’s just about all quality dealer brand scooters with the current markups and dealer fees. I called about a new Zuma 125 the other day. $3799, but was almost $5200 out the door 😳

[@Bengy22]

Lets see some engine mods on it, genuine claims it makes a measly 2hp, I've seen people in Europe push 10x that power on 50cc's haha. I bet you could easily and cheaply get at least 5hp though

[@KevCentral]

I don’t have any plans to mod the engine. I know from experience that on 2-stroke engines, as power goes up, reliability goes down. I like reliability

[@michaelbrinks8089]

Yup, I'm sure you can find a slightly bigger top end kit that's ported that could get to 55mph. If a 47mm Minnerali scooter top end would fit. It could do 55.

[@KevCentral]

As a top speed 100%. Fun goes up, but reliability/longevity goes down.

[@luisoti1743]

How much did you pay for it

[@raymondbetancourt6498]

So the Ruff House.Only has 1 year it was built in?

[@KevCentral]

3-year unlimited mile warranty

[@KermitOfWar]

How does one lock this up, in case one needs to take it to school or just the gym, etc etc? I don't even trust leaving a $400 bike chained up, let alone a $1,000+ scooter..

[@KevCentral]

Like all motorcycles the handlebars lock to the left. I’ve seen people cable the front wheel, but for the most part the fact that they weigh considerably more than a bicycle and can’t be easily pushed with a locked handlebar makes them less prone to be stolen as quickly as a bike.

[@Jenoxen]

@@KevCentral please for the love of god don't leave it thinking the handlebar lock is enough - The locking mechanism can be broken with one swift kick on the bars on most bikes, Just look at how they steal them in Brazil and Argentina.

[@KevCentral]

Fortunately, no self respecting redneck would be caught dead on a wimpy scooter, so mine is safe from 99.9% of the people that will be around it 😂

[@rustyholt6619]

what oil ratio do you use please

[@KevCentral]

It has an auto-lube injector. There is no need to mix. Just keep oil in the oil tank and it does the mixing as it goes.

[@davidcrowson4745]

Please be careful Mr Central.

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

I had a Honda 50cc scooter way back when. It was NOT FAST, noisy & smelly but it was reliable. I prefer a modern e-bike on just about every standard.🤷‍♂

[@KevCentral]

Most 50cc scooters are lucky to hit 30mph

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

@@KevCentral I could do better than 35...down hill with a strong wind at my back.🤣

[@KevCentral]

My very first 50cc scooter I bought for myself was a cheap Chinese knockoff of a Yamaha Jog-style scooter. It was branded Jet A-10 😂 with stickers that made it through about 2 rains before they were just white blanks. 4-stroke. Top speed on flat ground - under 30mph. I sold it to a guy that swore to me it would hit 40mph. Something I knew was not possible on flat ground. One day I caught him out on it. I was on my 150cc 2-stroke Stella which would cap out at about 54mph. I rode up beside him and said - let’s see the 40mph. I kid you not…:his response was “we have to be going down that big hill towards the river-bottom” 😂

[@stevek8829]

Is it a 50 or 49? There is a big legal difference in the US.

[@KevCentral]

49.3cc. 50cc is just standard nomenclature when referencing anything in this class. Just like most 125cc aren’t 125 on the nose. They are usually 124.xx

[@stevek8829]

@@KevCentral the chips are happy if it says 49 on the side, as far as no MC DL.

[@antd2733]

This vs e move roadrunner pro?

[@KevCentral]

I’m not familiar with that brand. I’ll look it up

[@keeganhache6667]

Put a 70cc kit on it lol

[@tarstarkusz]

I really don't think you should compare an ebike to a motor scooter. Other than being 2 wheeled vehicles, they have absolutely nothing in common and each one is a poor substitute for the other. Each can go places the other cannot. It is outright illegal to take a scooter in places ebikes are allowed to go such as in parks and bike trails while riding around in the lanes of even country roads on an e-bike is not a good idea and may be illegal and a ticketable (summary)offense. Then there are other differences, like range. Scooters have an effectively unlimited range so long as there are gas stations to stop at. This makes them suitable to different tasks. They are also built to vastly different standards. One is built to standards of the road and subject to laws and even insurance company standards (mandatory insurance with a moped) and the other to the standard of bicycles, not primarily a road vehicle with basically no external regulations. One requires registration and insurance and yearly inspection (varies by state) and the other, well, doesn't require any of these things. I'm not saying one is "better" than the other, just that they are not generally interchangeable like the difference between a car and minivan. They serve very different niches.

[@KevCentral]

All those are exactly the topics I plan to cover in the comparison. The simple truth is that many people ask one vs the other, but there is much more to consider. They are both options for many people, but that’s not saying they are the same and/or always the right choice for the same needs.

[@tarstarkusz]

@@KevCentral Looking forward to the vids.

[@fredfeldmeier8228]

Ur located in Florence SC..??

[@KevCentral]

Alabama

[@flashesbuck]

Sounds like your ready for a Grom Clone. Not an actual Honda Grom, but rather a cheaper clone.

[@KevCentral]

Not really my style, but they are cool in their own way

[@Civilwar.relics]

If you buy this and lose the gas cap it will cost you over $100! Because they have to replace everything with a key, and the mechanic will not be cheap, 1 gas cap will cost you well over $100 that is unheard of, and even Roughhouse themselves has acknowledged this has a bad issue, so if you buy this bike know how to work on them or it gets expensive..

[@harrygrimley4352]

1st 😅

[@scotthenske4281]

Buddy 50 is much faster. Sport exhaust and jet upgrade 48mph. Roughhouse, 42mp. With sport exhaust and jet upgrade, 41mph. Unless you make the exhaust port larger on the head, a stock roughhouse will never do better than 42mph

[@nonexistant2k3]

Put a 150 in it.

[@Sparkjumper59]

But your handlebar’s are bent?

[@KevCentral]

Gopro Lens sits 2” to the left of center on the chest rig. That makes an angle that skews everything

[@JohnGlen502]

Get yourself a Honda Helix with a 250cc. Four gallons of milk fit in the trunk.

[@KevCentral]

Those are too big for my tastes, but they gave a cult following for sure

[@cup_and_cone]

These eBikes are getting out of hand. 🤣

[@tarstarkusz]

I would never even consider an electric scooter. I especially wouldn't touch a low end Chinese e-scooter. The rebuild cost of my garage is WAY too high.

[@KevCentral]

I replied to something similar in another comment. I recently switched homeowners insurance to a new company and one of the questions they asked was do I have an electric car or scooter and if so, how far away from the house is it parked 😂

[@BattShytKuhraezy]

Had 1. B+ overall....

[@michael61985]

I would have went with a better company scooter that this one

[@KevCentral]

Genuine has great scooters

[@NjoyMoney]

If you spend 600usd on mods this will go 50mph easily.

[@KevCentral]

It’s easy to upgrade these for sure, but as performance goes up, reliability goes down.

[@NjoyMoney]

@@KevCentral in Finland we have generations and generations of 15 year olds doing evey possible mods on these engines or similiar and they are still extremly reliable with a basic 70cc, 19mm carb, exhaust, multivar and lighter rollers. The only thing that is recommended tho is pouring oil straight in the fuel, the automatic lubrication is not reliable / sufficient. Also its really cheap to just repair if anything happens, every part is super cheap. They are fun stock too tho.

[@KevCentral]

@TheSmokezalot 🇫🇮 awesome! A fellow NATO member 👍🏻. More performance = more heat. Here in hot & humid Alabama, that quickly wears on an engine.

[@NjoyMoney]

@@KevCentral Hehe 😁 you can buy a bigger cooling fan, or even go liquid cooled cylinder with a radiator. Lots of aftermarket support on these. But yea its still fun stock 👍

[@bock2829]

bro thats just a bad copy of the PGO brand. Its a copy off the PGO PMX 50

[@juanmarquez9988]

Get me products for free asap pop

[@uMustBeCool]

Been more of a car guy but looks like fun going on scooter 🛵 might have to give one a try