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@r13e154 жыл бұрын
She's broken nerf her
@jesse-mj5vw4 жыл бұрын
R13E Lomin faxxx
@quintinsilk3614 жыл бұрын
Thx Nathan
@joshuadick55404 жыл бұрын
That sucks I didn't know you were in a university. I thought you were like 40 years old. I like you more now
@r13e154 жыл бұрын
Yo Nathan do u think they should nerf her?
@danegarcia4574 жыл бұрын
“Don’t transform into dva when they have double shields” confusion 100
@cocogenji92114 жыл бұрын
Xd
@bootsnc4ts6114 жыл бұрын
I guess that'll be pretty easy
@pumaxDace4 жыл бұрын
well its possible if the enemy echo transforms into a shield tank ;D
@danegarcia4574 жыл бұрын
pumaxDace haha fax
@kenjiii_4 жыл бұрын
Came to comment this too lol
@bobwilliam62424 жыл бұрын
6:19 You can actually have a better damage combo. Because of the delay from using your sticky bombs to shooting your beam, you can actually get one primary shot in between with an animation cancel. Thus, making the combo primary-sticky bombs-primary-beam.
@deadmaniac04724 жыл бұрын
Just like Doomfist lol
@konrad10414 жыл бұрын
I had a pretty good game playing Widow against Echo. But long range maps are better to play widow against her because of her spray
@kidegwai10354 жыл бұрын
That was in a bro you wack video, it is actually so good
@SquaulDuNeant4 жыл бұрын
i still dont understand how to do it btw xD
@nonebody26014 жыл бұрын
“Echo is basically just Doomfist” Me, completely inept as Doomfist: :)
@SombR3ro4 жыл бұрын
Bad primary fire damage even in mid range. High mobility. Many damage abilities. Useless when hacked. Basically a robot Doomfist
@uncleron2x4 жыл бұрын
I said the exact same thing
@Rhovanion854 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same huh 1v1 doomfist against pharah 1v1 echo against pharah Yeah... totally the same.
@strife86564 жыл бұрын
@@SombR3ro lol his primary at mid range can actually be pretty decent if he hits enough of em. Even from a far those tickle shots can make you worry when your already down at 100 hp
@HeritageDrPepper4 жыл бұрын
I'm completely inept as Doomfist, too, but I own as Echo... this is making me rethink doomfist... but I probably still won't have the balls to try and play him lmao idk his kit doesn't make sense to me, Echo's does.
@CursedMoistMan6904 жыл бұрын
Echo tip: Lucios ultimate stacks so if you have a lucio on your team and on the enemy team you can coordinate the ult to give your teamates 2,000 Hp
@bloodofcuties4 жыл бұрын
not sorry as a lucio main playing echo, thank u
@bebgab19714 жыл бұрын
Marie Marie Lucio main gang 😎😤
@silentKeys204 жыл бұрын
You're better off chaining it than stacking it though.
@goose91374 жыл бұрын
Yeah but won't it also depleat twice as fast aswell
@DarkSharkDomilian4 жыл бұрын
@@goose9137 True, but it helps when the enemy is making a coordinated and aggresive push. The better option is to chain it, after one is done then the other can be used.
@leonardohenrique68784 жыл бұрын
I don't want to know how to play echo, I want to know how to destroy her
@albertludwig60984 жыл бұрын
Just click her 4head. Nah but I think it's again like doom. If u have 1 hits an like Idk cree that just keeps an eye on her and just denies her the ability to play the game through poke u r pretty safe i think
@user-wm7mk2nt4d4 жыл бұрын
git gud lmao
@Ball-lt5bd4 жыл бұрын
Krisno she isn’t a complete flight character, she’s probably better played on ground anyways, the flight is just for higher mobility and flank opportunity
@beleleudabatata44514 жыл бұрын
Any hitscan she may look slim but her hitbox is fucking W I D E
@93Chowo4 жыл бұрын
How does the saying go? "You have to know your enemy if you want to defeat them" meaning even if these are tips for playing her if you know that people use these tips you can figure out what they are doing and may counter that.
@chancetheunrapper1444 жыл бұрын
Quick tip for console players: for characters like echo or pharah, consider rebinding your jump to a bumper. This makes it so you can hold jump to fly and shoot while still being able to use your right stick.
@deadmaniac04724 жыл бұрын
Pharah and mercy actually already use a bumper for the base game. Echo does too, but it's binded to sticky bombs.
@chancetheunrapper1444 жыл бұрын
@@deadmaniac0472 yes but you can move those abilities to other buttons. I changed the left bumper abilities to left stick, for example. You can also set A to abilities instead of jump
@monkeynuts66384 жыл бұрын
It's the first thing I did
@deadmaniac04724 жыл бұрын
@@chancetheunrapper144 I had to rearrange around 3 abilities, it's neat
@Ender131234 жыл бұрын
If you got cash get an elite controller (2 if you can). takes 1 month to get used to but binding jump to the back bumpers instantly improves echo/lucio/genji/pharah because your fingers never leave any buttons
@NoshuHyena4 жыл бұрын
12:34 - the little siren in the song exactly matches Jake's mouth movement
@thebaldingsparrow53924 жыл бұрын
Shout-out to all my fellow people's taking a poop right now! I hope you enjoy the video as much as I'm enjoying pushing this payload.
@yvelta4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, im literaly taking a shit rn
@thebaldingsparrow53924 жыл бұрын
@@yvelta enjoy!
@johancanela064 жыл бұрын
I’m taking one rn🤣YOOOO
@yvelta4 жыл бұрын
@@thebaldingsparrow5392 thx
@thebaldingsparrow53924 жыл бұрын
@@yvelta np buddy, don't forget to like the video.
@dharpoon4 жыл бұрын
Tip, use her flight and Ult while on the air or high ground. A bastion on high ground or a tank that's dropping from above will kill or confuse your enemies.
@cinderycinder2155 Жыл бұрын
For anybody watching this post OW2 release, I think Mei is also an outstanding pick to ult on, because with her rework her ult is a game changer and her ult charges super fast c:
@relig55134 жыл бұрын
This is a good echo tip: make sure you wait until the end of the preparation phase before you throw out your echo drones just in case they have a Twitch or the twitch drone is destroyed
@TemplarMan1314 жыл бұрын
Funny r6 reference
@ok-rh4vp4 жыл бұрын
Tyrel howard lol
@louie4456 Жыл бұрын
Yeah good idea if only people in my rank actually played twitch
@javierlorenzo40314 жыл бұрын
In regardless to the Doomfist Echo comparison I don’t actually feel it. I’m mid Diamond and have never been a good Doomfist but after trying Echo I’ve felt her very smooth and have used her pretty well but that’s just my experience.
@reecelee52184 жыл бұрын
Maybe not mechanically. She has similar times of when and how you will want to engage in a fight. Both her and doom can take an angle not to flank and poke, but to pounce and get out. Her flight when used as a retreat is similar to dooms retreat, and she has similar "get one kill and get out" mentality. I would say doom has a greater pick potential, but has little to no poke, where echo has less than dooms, but can poke from afar.
@NickIsBlasted4 жыл бұрын
The huge similarity for me is punishing positioning. Doom and Echo are so good at getting kills the instant when positioning breaks or when a hero is vulnerable.
@mr.penguin46144 жыл бұрын
bro i promise you can be a good doom fist if you can play echo. both heroes are designed around cool down management and insta kill potential, but at the cost of extreme vulnerability when you miss your cool downs are misuse. the primary fire aims about the same too, except echo has better range and more bullets. they arent entirely the same but the fundamentals certainly are
@christianschmitz83954 жыл бұрын
He's not really saying that they are the same, just that they fill the same role. They zip around punishing poor positioning and fragging down enemies with their combos(slam+uppercut or stickies and focus beam).
@grahamschatz54744 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that echo has a really large hit box for a 200 health character
@lucar14124 жыл бұрын
Maybe another tip, echo‘s ult disables hero selection for enemies, so on 2 cp maps like Anubis,Volskaya save your ult until after getting a pick, stops the enemy from stalling forever, works like a charm 👌🏻
@FinalFlameXD4 жыл бұрын
Another tip you didn't mention, is if you are close to dying you can just dupe into another hero. Get max HP, and if you die again you will have full HP for a second time. So like three lives. Good for stall as well.
@Hunter-gp1ij4 жыл бұрын
Couple things with this video 1. I have learned from personal experience not to use the beam until you know they are for sure under %50 health just because it is extremely easy to out heal the 50 dps rather than 200. So what will happen is people will use their beam right after they shoot out the bombs and the player will get healed before they’re health gets below %50 so now you’ve wasted your beam and possibly gotten yourself killed. 2. Now im not 100% about this one but a lot of pros have been saying TO play her like genji where this video says the opposite Other than that great tips
@bentaaii4 жыл бұрын
i actually like it when he gets sponsored because it’s short and sweet, and actually informative.
@fries22494 жыл бұрын
Echo started growing on me, at first I couldn't even get 12 kills with her. But after a bit more practice, I was able to get into the 50's. That was without knowing these tips. And with knowing these, I can definitely do a lot better after a bit more practice.
@beleleudabatata44514 жыл бұрын
A good tip for console is to switch your jump button to the Left Bumper (L2, LB) and your bomb to the previous default one ( X, A) so you have your thumb free to aim while gliding
@mafiaaa2933 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh thanks
@DannyC20024 жыл бұрын
I think there is a sound error in this video I keep hearing an echo
@alexo79024 жыл бұрын
بندر جويعد سعد العجمي you get one that was a good pun 🙃
@pumaxDace4 жыл бұрын
What is that melody?
@whoknows74154 жыл бұрын
The real thing I need to get down is using her primary fire. I find it incredibly hard to aim with her.
@itsalex55194 жыл бұрын
His videos are so chill. I want him to do podcasts, that would be nice.
@rorydunbar28274 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to when the Echo hype does down, because I'm enjoying playing her, and I want to play her in a normal game where not everyone on my team is trying to play her...
@aceclop4 жыл бұрын
Tru
@amalieeng4 жыл бұрын
Yees same!
@Gold712034 жыл бұрын
Saaaammmeee. I never even get to play dps bc of the match times
@rorydunbar28274 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it's died down a bit now
@jozaiahrosado99494 жыл бұрын
Funny cause, literally nobody picks her now lol
@AXOLOTLKINQ4 жыл бұрын
I thought this said "how to destroy echo"
@Jess-ul5ho4 жыл бұрын
We need that video
@AXOLOTLKINQ4 жыл бұрын
@@Jess-ul5ho ikr, thats the only reason why i clicked on this one
@J3ste44 жыл бұрын
You cant
@vdwlkr-vv7zh4 жыл бұрын
2:26 she has character specific settings that let you make it so in order to fly u need to hold down the button and if u stop holding it down it cancels her flight
@v_Magica Жыл бұрын
as soon as I started Echo a few days ago, this is literally the most fun I've ever had playing Overwatch. I enjoy her so much, I literally nicknamed her beam the tank beam, said sum "bouta get my tank beam"
@mzisaperson79254 жыл бұрын
You can also animation cancel primary fire into beam which kinda makes a new combo with bombs to primary fire cancel beam :P (for those who don’t know: after your shoot your bombs hold your primary fire button and beam at the same time and it shreds the enemy
@deadmaniac04724 жыл бұрын
I think a good tip for echo is to not burn all of your abilities on one Target in a team fight. Primary fire does a lot of damage, use it to your advantage!
@bagofmoss4710 Жыл бұрын
I love playing as Echo so much, she’s a fun character to play as and her story makes me emotional.
@DoginSuit4 жыл бұрын
@Blizzard Guides I play on Xbox and I found that switching the A jump button with the RB or LB abilities so you can jump around and use her jump abilities
@pandemonium25364 жыл бұрын
"You pick d.va and they end up having double shield." Me: Hol' up
@nebulous92804 жыл бұрын
About Tip Number 15, a lot of Reins are already figuring out that they should drop shield when an Echo is lasering it. Even in Quick Play at a Plat level, I'm noticing that Reins are consistently dropping their shields when I use beam on it, opting to face tank the 50 DPS rather than let the beam totally destroy their shield.
@Richboy123454 жыл бұрын
If he drops shield that should be your teams cue to focus him down and kill him or at least make him back off. Alternatively, if you have a sniper hero as the other dps, they can use that opportunity to pick off squishy healers or dps that would normally be hiding behind the shield.
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's worth baiting them to drop shield with laser and then cancelling to set up earthshatters or sticky bomb plays or something
@ghoulbuster14 жыл бұрын
Perfect opportunity for an outplay, bait the shield with laser for a combo, or not using the beam until the rein is low
@nebulous92804 жыл бұрын
@@ghoulbuster1 Fair, but then again, this IS Plat we're talking about. This is gonna be one of those things that works even though it shouldn't.
@someGuy-kl7cb4 жыл бұрын
i think another thing about cloning tanks is you create a temporary triple tank comp...which in the right scenarios, can basically stomp teams that aren't able to counter such strats in 15 seconds...and of course, stealing beat drop, in a grav is worth it too also thanks so much for the doomfist comparason. ive been struggling to put my finger on what makes me good with her at times, and feeding on her at other times...and now that i imagine how doom plays it makes perfect sense
@olafvds11024 жыл бұрын
7:18 I like to hover a few seconds in the air and wait (if they dont see me) so my flight is on a 3-4 second cooldown and I can get out after the kill
@perezo274 жыл бұрын
I really liked that you included something most guides dont: basic playstyle and role You are not a flanker, you are a squishy dps with high burst damage that should stay with the team and punish those who are out of position I was playing her like Genji when I should have been playing her like a weird mix between Mcree and Doomfist
@gianglai62424 жыл бұрын
Mccree: *Flashbangs* Echo: *looks to the left/right* Mccree: *Fan the hammer*
@rolandkindell21303 жыл бұрын
i love the vid the only thing is i say you should flank with echo because when your not seen you can get some crazy damage with echo that's her main downfall she is squish not saying always flank but your definitely still should if your team is cracking them from the front flanking with her beam can get you a lot of kills
@bloodofcuties4 жыл бұрын
stay safe nate! i’ve gotten into overwatch during this quarantine and i love watching ur videos to learn more about heroes :)))))
@connor68154 жыл бұрын
Can I get the name of every song used in this video? They're all great!
@alexo79024 жыл бұрын
5:50 True, but note that all heroes walk slightly faster forward than backwards/sideways, so it is technically better to face the direction you’re doing it. Sorry, I watched the rest he mentioned it sorry
@nathanmiller45364 жыл бұрын
Eagle Master lol
@BlueIvyTwice4 жыл бұрын
(Correct me If you think I’m wrong) I‘m a low diamond player and i think that a few tips can be changed for lower rankes. If you play on lower ranks you can flank because everyone is out of position. These targets are a free kill. Low ranked players won’t know what to do (they won’t play in a team that protects each other).
@jas45553 жыл бұрын
Echo is my main currently and I'm obsessed with her-
@fluffnstuph854 жыл бұрын
Excellent job working without a script! Thank you for the info and keep em coming. For what it’s worth I really enjoy your voice!
@kxrby73124 жыл бұрын
1:11 lmao why was that so on Beat 😂
@voxi91474 жыл бұрын
I have started playing Echo and I love her a LOT. And idk if this means im good with her but I knew most of these tips. Anyways, thanks for the helpful tips!
@spencerkrey83074 жыл бұрын
Thank God someone made a guide this will be helpful for others. I always see people get stuck on beam of fly for no reason and I have told them that they can cancel
@zacharyjankovski34514 жыл бұрын
i was waiting for a guide after rerlease thanks man :)
@fionaflop300 Жыл бұрын
Recommended combos for console players!~ ~flight first, lightbeam (cancel at a certain point depending on your enemy) , then the sticky bombs for ultimate destruction. - shoot twice, bombs, then fly away for a quick kill.
@TwilightenEspanol4 жыл бұрын
Finally! I was looking for this
@whiteorange9514 жыл бұрын
Gross
@jacobbautista6314 жыл бұрын
you can pull off doomfist type of bunny hops if u jump and cancel like off a corner of a rail or anything in that sort. you get extra height
@n0t_jhn7184 жыл бұрын
Seeing this after I’m making echo, really helps, the fact about learning of low cost ults is reall good to know, using echos últ to be tracer is going to be really good when pushing or even defending
@chronograph_6674 жыл бұрын
Quick tip: when u transform into genji and u ghost dash kill someone and ghost dash up last second u essentially get a super jump
@Unknownguy54614 жыл бұрын
On legun tower on the market area if you spawn on the sude with the blue and oragne octipi you can go out to the right and fly to the objective if you go high enough
@mattg000044 жыл бұрын
tip 9 is just like super jumping on Mercy! it seems to be the same kind of thing, just crouch before you fly and you go super low to the ground. i wonder if you can do something similar to this when you ult as sigma and fly really low too, i'll have to try that lol
@Gunnerz054 жыл бұрын
Straight up could not tell it was improved. Think you found your style. Keep it up!
@flynn54984 жыл бұрын
Just found this video and it's been super useful especially on the movement side of things thanks!
@maou98384 жыл бұрын
The introduction was fire man
@medic76444 жыл бұрын
Bruh, that was improv?? I would have never guessed, tbh. You were so chill, and easy to listen too. You have such a calm voice. :D
@tidal19984 жыл бұрын
Tech I found out with echo you can get a drastically higher vertical and horizontal speed/height how to achieve it is by aiming at an object (Similarly to Doomfist) fly-shift or lb I believe on console at certain object such as fences ledge jump “doom tech” an mainly any others capable with doom you can also do the same with just canceling it but theirs no real reason instead of keeping the extra flight but change as you’d like.
@SnipingMachines4 жыл бұрын
Randomly came across your channel & would like to wish you goodluck to 2020 fam ❤️
@SnipingMachines4 жыл бұрын
Nice content, keep it up bro 🙏
@mrireland28124 жыл бұрын
A thing i noticed when flying is that you get boosted a slight amount when you use flight but if you jump than fly you go very high up and you can go a further distance
@Misoraaauninininiii.4 жыл бұрын
I get you with university making you busy, my semester has been over since May and I have so much time on my hands now so I am using it to main echo along with getting decent at some other heroes so I can use her ult more efficiently.
@zaidalbustami90154 жыл бұрын
The whole flanking part is somewhat wrong, u don't want to be with ur team like a soldier but above their team in a fight, and if need be its an easy retreat with the glide ability back to your team.
@satokxn78044 жыл бұрын
just wanted to point out that you can actually volly then basic into a beam before the bombs blow for a constant damage
@filiprek67754 жыл бұрын
You can also cancel E, its often better to just cancel it after finishing an enemy and then start fireing primary fire or escaping from dangerous position
@coldvro4 жыл бұрын
love your intro its so smooth
@1.z7ii4 жыл бұрын
In gameplay tips if you are a doomfist main do an ability cycle don’t use them all at once like doomfist in doomfist the famous combo is slam uppercut then primary fire then rocket punch to escape but with echo don’t engage with ur flight use it to escape.
@zwordsman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. VIdeo flowed well. Improv is fine
@cassie58202 жыл бұрын
Great video! I did well for a lot of games after watching this so I think your tips def helped!
@user-bj4lo9ss7l4 жыл бұрын
really good echo guide with a ton of actually dec
@elizabethgouverneur29724 жыл бұрын
I hope they add a toggle glide setting to the echo and mercy controls cause it’s so annoying on console to not be able to aim while gliding
@IamERAMOS4 жыл бұрын
A very good video. I feel a lot wiser now.
@Wanderimpacts3 жыл бұрын
This was the video that helped me become a good echo not long ago! I’m late lol but thanks for the tips!
@Sam_P294 жыл бұрын
I took a break from OW and just came back today. I hadn’t played echo yet Bc I left after sigma made double shield popular. So I tried echo and my conclusion was literally how she played similar to Doomfist. I’m so happy that it wasn’t just me being delusional 😂
@kevvoggaming23804 жыл бұрын
Let's all agree that echo is getting banned next week
@samyelson4 жыл бұрын
I came here to learn new things, but unfortunately all the hours I put into Echo these are pretty much all the tricks I have learned through failure. Really good work though, great things to know if you are just starting Echo for the first time! I however didn't know the crouch dashing one, that is pretty cool.
@nightniro1314 жыл бұрын
Ok so this is an unlikely combo but this is good when the enemies don't know that your behind their team where you can quick melee into all of your bombs. This will kill any 200 hp hero. You can also shoot, beam, quick melee and then the enemy will most likely die. Also use flight's quick intitial dash to dodge attacks since it's kinda like a tracer blink. To get the quick initial dash you can either turn on hold to flight and just tap your flight button or just tap your flight button twice in quick succession. Since duplication gives you basically another life and refills your hp to max you can use duplicate to safe your life if you dive too deep or you get focused down (this is especially strong if you pick a mobile tank like d.va or Winston). Okay so that's everything that I have figured out about Echo. So I hope some of this helps even further.
@mc_32324 жыл бұрын
The play echo like doomfist Is a really good tip because of her mobility and assassination potential
@bobfrank92674 жыл бұрын
I love duplicating rein because it allows a no fear rein. If you have an ana its even better if you coordinate your ults. Multiple ults and lots of kills/damage
@Taptipi4 жыл бұрын
A really good video, understand everything
@cadensherwood16804 жыл бұрын
I have been saving up comp points for several years, including long breaks for destiny 1 and 2 but, I was going to buy the junkrat golden gun but this hero may have just changed my mind.
@aceclop4 жыл бұрын
It took you years to save up for a gold gun?
@cadensherwood16804 жыл бұрын
@@aceclop because I took a break with other games
@psychogerbil644 жыл бұрын
When I think about it its kinda awsome that you can have a competetive match with 4 rien's at once if both teams have echo and rein...
@riner9 Жыл бұрын
I had my entire team rage at me today for picking Echo in OW2. I topped DPS over everyone and my entire team left......it was quick play unranked....
@readingsbyreece65574 жыл бұрын
One thing I will say is that echo is a flanker to a degree she is inbetween a team player and an assassination style character usually you can use the initial burst of her flight to preemptively fire a volley of bombs and quick cancel into beam then use your glide momentum to retreat to high ground or back to your team. Also out of ult targets doomfist and tracer are the strongest they can usually pull of two ults possibly 3 with tracer. I would 100% ignore swapping to Hanson or widow unless you really trust your hitscan gameplay. And I would have to disagree Dva is a great ukt target tons of pressure and get out of jail free cards and her ult is easy to build.
@hannahp15274 жыл бұрын
Quick tip: If you jump before you use glide you keep the jump momentum and go up instead of having to look up
@ilderJohn4 жыл бұрын
So you reccomend using the setting where you hold the button down to fly?
@harkenstone3 жыл бұрын
1:11 I think i am the only one that felt the flow with these first words
@firedimondninja56114 жыл бұрын
You guys should make a video of how to get every achievement in the game. (With demonstrations)
@YoungFree2134 жыл бұрын
Ok here's my problem that you complain about ulti into zarya. It's not a bat pick, you can build her ulti super quick, save the graviton till the last second and drop it onto the enemy and sticky bomb them for a few easy kills
@sirkiz11814 жыл бұрын
4:22 that bird lol
@SuperSouper4 жыл бұрын
I'd say echos cool downs r most similar to Winston's. U only have one ability to engage/disengage. Doomfist has 3
@yourgirlkafka4 жыл бұрын
Really good echo guide with ton of actually decent tips... for Pizza Delivery? Nice
@brandongoldberg69023 жыл бұрын
The new echo skin made me want to play her so here we are
@sapphire82503 жыл бұрын
Quick recommendation on another good hero but it were better if it was on a certain map and a certain comp D.va would be the best
@grinsk3ks4 жыл бұрын
it's pretty important to know that ulti has s. E.g. you can dodge highnoon by transforming
@jhitgoomba14 жыл бұрын
Orisa actually counters echo, trying to fly away? Halt. Trying to beam you when you’re low? Fortify. Trying to sticky bomb your face? Honestly, you should have had your barrier up, and if echo has an angle on u then dance, bot
@deadmaniac04724 жыл бұрын
Beam still does around 120 dps vs orisa while fortified
@ghoulbuster14 жыл бұрын
Orisa would need aimbot to kill an echo flying around, too hard to hit, the echo wins
@jhitgoomba14 жыл бұрын
Scientist Walter I can 1v1 echos with orisa, I don’t have aimbot Really cuz they have to be on the ground sometimes, they can’t fly infinitely
@yogafireyogaflame4 жыл бұрын
Actually dva and zarya even if u get only 1 ult is really valuable bcs extra grav is amazing and u can area control with dva bomb
@goose91374 жыл бұрын
Narator: 'Don't flank' Also narrator: 'Drop down behind the enemy and try to get the 1 or 2 kills'