20 Coasters That Could Be GONE in Five Years

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Airtime Thrills

Airtime Thrills

Күн бұрын

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@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the unusual beginning and ending, even though Queen was the perfect touch for the video, it triggered a copyright claim so I had to edit it out. Lesson learned.
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 4 жыл бұрын
It's Queen, what else did you really expect? (which songs did you use tho?)
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 4 жыл бұрын
Another One Rides the Bus ;p
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
0MindSwept0 I like you
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoswarePictures .........k then
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
0MindSwept0 I’ve enjoyed Weird Al longer than I’ve been alive.
@spluver0005
@spluver0005 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with getting rid of Gemini is it takes out a good “stepping stone” coaster. As a kid, I would’ve had a really hard time getting to the bigger coasters (Magnum, Millennium) without it. I just think it gets rid of a pretty good middle ground coaster that would be missed.
@spluver0005
@spluver0005 4 жыл бұрын
F P Maverick’s height requirement is higher than Gemini’s, but it also more intense than Gemini. No it’s not the biggest, but it’s definitely not a good stepping stone coaster.
@cameronkanachki
@cameronkanachki 4 жыл бұрын
If anything at Cedar Point should get axed, it’s Cedar Creek Mine Ride
@shchorss
@shchorss 4 жыл бұрын
@F P I hope that's a joke
@pathurd9595
@pathurd9595 4 жыл бұрын
My brother was the most anti coaster you can get. His stepping stone coaster as a 17 year old was corkscrew... hopped right on gate keeper and steel vengeance after
@jackmchenry9305
@jackmchenry9305 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I am hoping they give Gemini the RMC treatment instead of replacing it
@AmusementLabs
@AmusementLabs 4 жыл бұрын
Note: The Flash ALSO received a brand new LIM system in 2019. (Notice how clean they are) and is under contract with DC for the foreseeable future.
@baileytripod3554
@baileytripod3554 4 жыл бұрын
Coaster Labs I said the exact thing 👍🏼
@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Has V2 been up all year for the most part? Before this year it probably seemed more likely
@seancurrier6711
@seancurrier6711 4 жыл бұрын
I've been to DK 10 times between June and Oct and everytime I was there it was open.
@AmusementLabs
@AmusementLabs 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirtimeThrills it's been okay, better than years past for sure. Though it typically doesn't run in the cold, but since it's its first off season with the new system we'll see how much is need in regards to maintenance by how soon it reopens.
@danstaifer2028
@danstaifer2028 4 жыл бұрын
Gemini would break my heart. Love that coaster
@jonathonedwardmiller
@jonathonedwardmiller 4 жыл бұрын
Same but if it's to help out a good cause
@destroyer-_--to8yq
@destroyer-_--to8yq 4 жыл бұрын
I got a shirt for that coaster.
@ericklos858
@ericklos858 4 жыл бұрын
Press Y to same
@Itsyaboyharry98
@Itsyaboyharry98 4 жыл бұрын
As long as the replacement is worth it, I'd be ok with it.
@delightfully-idle1845
@delightfully-idle1845 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I wont miss it. The first time I rode it the lapbars weren't working, which was whatever but the thing is I had my thumb pointing straight up underneath the handbar when it randomly slammed down, causing my nail (which was like 5 cm long) to slam down deep into my skin.
@jakeeerz4260
@jakeeerz4260 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how kings island is removing so many coasters when they have a butt load of space
@thugroundss
@thugroundss 4 жыл бұрын
Boi its because there's limited parts and they can cost to much to upkeep for the park
@jakeeerz4260
@jakeeerz4260 4 жыл бұрын
Shofu oh yeah your correct I completely forgot about that
@ben11k
@ben11k 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s true, which means you can imply that they aren’t removing these coasters because they need the space.
@rfloxd880
@rfloxd880 4 жыл бұрын
Shofu this man thought we were in sandbox mode💀
@coasterate2866
@coasterate2866 4 жыл бұрын
*facepalm
@aMondayMorning
@aMondayMorning 4 жыл бұрын
RMC Predator should be named 'Apex Predator'.
@TheSonicsean
@TheSonicsean 4 жыл бұрын
Would "Voices" play in the queue line?
@markvolpe2305
@markvolpe2305 4 жыл бұрын
Their was a survey several years showing a wooden corkscrew on the Predator and renaming it "Lake Monster"
@CoasterFoxBradB
@CoasterFoxBradB 4 жыл бұрын
Just Theme it to Randy Orton and Done Deal LOL
@shanedenmark5536
@shanedenmark5536 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying that since Herschend teased RMC Predator a bunch of years ago...
@braedenostrow
@braedenostrow 4 жыл бұрын
aMondayMorning love it
@surferjohnny123
@surferjohnny123 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Looks like the era of Arrow coasters is coming to an end.
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Surfer Johnny S&S: hold my beer
@CoasterCollege
@CoasterCollege 4 жыл бұрын
nah, most of those arrows will stick around.
@zachcoastercrazy4032
@zachcoastercrazy4032 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterCollege how much longer do you think gemini has? I think maybe 2020 could be it's final year.
@CoasterCollege
@CoasterCollege 4 жыл бұрын
A lot longer, I posted a full comment with my thoughts, but they have a few open spots for a new coaster before they would even have to think about removing a ride. Also Gemini is constantly in the top 5 for ridership in the park, its staying for a long time.
@zachcoastercrazy4032
@zachcoastercrazy4032 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterCollege that is nice. My 2nd favorite coaster in the park and my favorite arrow. Then again, I have only ridden 38 coasters, because I am super limited, and and only a teen.
@shane6860
@shane6860 4 жыл бұрын
Gemini is the most under-rated ride at Cedar Point.. Gemini would be a top 5 ride at most parks in the country...
@Penoatle
@Penoatle 4 жыл бұрын
Gemini rules.
@quintocreations5091
@quintocreations5091 4 жыл бұрын
Gemeni is underrated. But it would be top5 at a few parks. Not most
@shane6860
@shane6860 4 жыл бұрын
@@quintocreations5091 Yes. most !
@gemnifan6045
@gemnifan6045 4 жыл бұрын
Its safe for now wicked twister is leaving after this year so it has at least 5 more years
@Coolsomeone234
@Coolsomeone234 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Cedar fair will relocate the ride
@cedarpointenthusiast
@cedarpointenthusiast 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Gemini will be removed anytime soon. It has a lot of historic value as opening as the worlds tallest coaster in the 70s. It’s also a really high capacity ride, something Cedar Point really needs. In my opinion, Cedar Creek Mine ride is in more danger. It takes up an even bigger plot of land, with it never having a line, even when the parks at capacity. CCMR can also supply parts for Gemini, which has more historic value blah blah blah
@that21pilotsfan9
@that21pilotsfan9 3 жыл бұрын
True. As sentimental at CCMR is for me, it being my first coaster that wasn’t a Camp Snoopy ride, I think the possibility of it being removed is gradually increasing.
@thicccarteronxbox9930
@thicccarteronxbox9930 Жыл бұрын
Meh I don’t care about either I’m not gonna lie the only old coasters I’m attached to are Magnum and Blue Streak which aren’t going anywhere anytime soon although I was sad when they tore down wicked twister
@cameron3320
@cameron3320 4 жыл бұрын
I swear your videos are like podcasts - just relaxing to listen to while doing something else
@_lucas_1k_
@_lucas_1k_ 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@alexanderlauinger4170
@alexanderlauinger4170 4 жыл бұрын
Like playing planet coaster
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Architect Playz I would play Planet Coaster more if it weren’t too laggy on my computer. I’m probably gonna get it when it comes out on PS4, unless a Switch release is announced in the near future
@graydonhassan
@graydonhassan 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr I was literally doing my homework while listening to this
@jesss.7788
@jesss.7788 4 жыл бұрын
Cameron Photography , I agree! Take a listen o Mr Nightmare and let me know what you think of his voice. I find it relaxing yet scary at the same time 😂😂🤔🤔👻👻😂😂
@Kabaladamawomasp
@Kabaladamawomasp 4 жыл бұрын
Theres nothing more heartbreaking than a beloved coaster disappearing, even ones you never got to ride but you knew everyone loved
@moncalimarimoncalimari8964
@moncalimarimoncalimari8964 2 жыл бұрын
The worst is when you have been wanting to ride a coaster for a long time, and just before you get to, it gets removed. That's what happened with Volcano at Kings Dominion. I had been waiting to ride it for years, and it got removed just before I could ride it.
@astrofrk
@astrofrk 4 жыл бұрын
I proposed to my wife on the Gemini and have many other memories with it. At the same time, I got rid of my wife as well.
@carsonwentz302
@carsonwentz302 4 жыл бұрын
John Sparks lol
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Ross married Rachel on Gemini and got divorced, AGAIN!!!
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say life is a roller coaster....
@ahhculdee
@ahhculdee 4 жыл бұрын
Was she hot though?
@astrofrk
@astrofrk 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahhculdee Lets just say the Gemini was more fun but like my wife, allot of people got to ride her.
@tismejaytee
@tismejaytee 4 жыл бұрын
I Appreciate you playing Another One Bites The Dust in the beginning
@madelinegarber7860
@madelinegarber7860 4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that. It was perfect. That’s KI’s theme song.
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
If I were to play a Queen song during this video, I would play Bohemian Rhapsody during the Hurler bitz
@SomeRandomAccount5
@SomeRandomAccount5 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad my dad showed me these songs that I’ve never heard because there are so many references in songs that I wouldn’t of known about
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
KM Productions how many of us haven’t first heard of Queen from our dads?
@motorwayt-s628
@motorwayt-s628 4 жыл бұрын
Dosware Pictures whenever he mentions Steel Vengeance or RMC You’re My Best Friend should play
@cr128
@cr128 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame to see rare coaster models get the axe.
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
CR12 that’s why I don’t want Vortex to leave.
@rileymccarter6281
@rileymccarter6281 4 жыл бұрын
And the eagle
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
Eagle I agree with as well....but an RMC conversion might not be too bad, better than getting bulldozed.
@revillus8173
@revillus8173 2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I wish Cedar Fair decided to axe Corkscrew instead of Wicked Twister since those Impulse coasters like it are hard to come by, but unfortunately historic value can trump a lot of stuff.
@ShockerTopper
@ShockerTopper 4 ай бұрын
Right?? I wanted to ride wicked twister…it’s the best version of an overhead impulse coaster. The discovery kingdom flash right is lame that its twisted spike is at an angle (stupid city ordinances), and the straight up spike is boring. Having two vertical twisted spikes sounds like fun…well like it would have been.
@thenuccichannel5742
@thenuccichannel5742 4 жыл бұрын
“Twisted Predator” Welcome to Chris Hansen
@isaiahrosner3780
@isaiahrosner3780 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
His last name isn’t Hansen.
@thenuccichannel5742
@thenuccichannel5742 4 жыл бұрын
Dosware Pictures and your point is?
@carsonwentz302
@carsonwentz302 4 жыл бұрын
The coaster network 😂😂
@thenuccichannel5742
@thenuccichannel5742 4 жыл бұрын
jasonbtw yoooooo chilllll💀💀💀💀
@aaronscibelli7078
@aaronscibelli7078 4 жыл бұрын
Before even watching the video, I can guess that this video will mostly be old Arrow loopers, rough woodies, and unreliable Intamins. Also two videos in a row, thanks dude!
@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget Vekomas
@aaronscibelli7078
@aaronscibelli7078 4 жыл бұрын
Airtime Thrills oh yes! Most of them suck!
@capitalthrills
@capitalthrills 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronscibelli7078 I want to see an American (or canadian) park get one of their new models like their top gun model. I think it's called
@aaronscibelli7078
@aaronscibelli7078 4 жыл бұрын
Capital Thrills yeah that would be nice. But for now we’re stuck with slcs and boomerangs. Oh, and one of the worst coasters ever built, Goliath at SFNE.
@jacobselleck9750
@jacobselleck9750 4 жыл бұрын
If cedar point removes gemini I will never return
@juangrimaldo8178
@juangrimaldo8178 4 жыл бұрын
If American eagle gets torn down it will be a big waste of potential like rolling thunder
@bubblegaminglol
@bubblegaminglol 4 жыл бұрын
swag tubby American Eagle is my mom’s favorite wooden roller coaster 🤣🤣🤣
@DJGaming-qw8hu
@DJGaming-qw8hu 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone else thinks six flags wasted an opportunity for an awesome dual RMC coaster
@juangrimaldo8178
@juangrimaldo8178 4 жыл бұрын
@@bubblegaminglol same
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is the reason Rolling Thunder did not get the RMC treatment is because the company was way too young at the time and do not have the experience they have today.
@wormyfren8133
@wormyfren8133 4 жыл бұрын
TigerRocks503 Aka: Chase Apparently Six Flags wanted to RMC Rolling Thunder but RMC declined because the ride was so poorly maintained and wasn’t adequate for a hybrid. Sucks because it’s my home park.
@larstem2080
@larstem2080 3 жыл бұрын
Wicked twister: September 6, 2021 Goliath: 2020?
@oblivieon1567
@oblivieon1567 4 жыл бұрын
I always found it odd that Morgan came in and made Phantom a top ten coaster then never got called again. I also find it odd that Chance made a terrific airtime machine with the Hyper GTX that was really well received and never got called again (I really think Knott's could use one of these!). Wouldn't it be cool if Chance got called in to convert some of these larger Arrow's into ridiculous airtime machines? Could you imagine Viper as a 186ft tall airtime monster? That would be so cool! It just seems to me something could be done to these aging Arrow's instead of just scrapping them.
@bubblegaminglol
@bubblegaminglol 4 жыл бұрын
_Arrow Mine Train on steroids_ *It’s called a racing mine train thing*
@bubblegaminglol
@bubblegaminglol 4 жыл бұрын
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@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Danny Ryan before Flashback?
@bubblegaminglol
@bubblegaminglol 4 жыл бұрын
Dosware Pictures I have not even rode both flashbacks.
@kotchapakmaneechote2062
@kotchapakmaneechote2062 4 жыл бұрын
is Six Flags New England your home park?
@bubblegaminglol
@bubblegaminglol 4 жыл бұрын
@@kotchapakmaneechote2062 Nope, GE
@linknavi1
@linknavi1 4 жыл бұрын
Im sad I never got to go on Deja Vu and I really hope Viper stays. Its so aesthetically pleasing from the sight of that high up loop to the sounds of the chainlift.
@forrestbratton5025
@forrestbratton5025 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Goliath @ SFNE was one of the few times I've felt genuinely afraid to get on a coaster. Those restraints felt like coffins, and the track was very bumpy.
@motorwayt-s628
@motorwayt-s628 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a shell of what could’ve been a good ride
@overbanked
@overbanked 4 жыл бұрын
It's the least favorite coaster than I've ridden
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the track it's the crappy trains, when it had the Vekoma trains it was smooth as butter and much more reliable. SFNE needs to scrap the Premier trains and call up Vekoma
@forrestbratton5025
@forrestbratton5025 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Fair enough. Wish I got a chance to ride it in its original form because it does have good bones.
@bruceaskew2107
@bruceaskew2107 4 жыл бұрын
@Twisted Coaster Fan me too when it was in Gurnee
@Stubwood_on_YT
@Stubwood_on_YT 4 жыл бұрын
My GP friends: Hey you wanna ride the Anaconda at Kings Dominion? Me: My Anaconda don't!
@samanthagiles3391
@samanthagiles3391 4 жыл бұрын
The last time I rode that one nobody seemed excited at its end. It’s painful 🤦🏼‍♀️😂
@metallifreak100
@metallifreak100 4 жыл бұрын
American eagle is an icon at six flags great America. It would be tough seeing that coaster gone.
@metallifreak100
@metallifreak100 4 жыл бұрын
“In a can” lol... I of course meant “an icon”.
@lorenkutz2431
@lorenkutz2431 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I would probably cry, but if they rmc it that would be better.
@davegriffin5988
@davegriffin5988 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a retracking is going on last time is was there
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 3 жыл бұрын
Wicked Twister: *Laughs* I’m REALLY in danger! 😅
@frontrowcinema666
@frontrowcinema666 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many useless rides there are at Canada's Wonderland. Never has it been such a hindrance to ride 14 coasters.
@rivertownproductions
@rivertownproductions 4 жыл бұрын
The Adventure Outpost unpopular opinion, I think Canada’s Wonderland has a very solid top 5, maybe even 6.
@frontrowcinema666
@frontrowcinema666 4 жыл бұрын
@@rivertownproductions definitely debatable and to each their own but I feel like outside of Yukon, Levi, Behemoth, and Vortex there is much left to be desired with regards to the rest of the park.
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
It’s just like Energylandia. Over half of their lineup is kiddie coasters.
@Soonjai
@Soonjai 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoswarePictures And I bet you that Energylandia's new for 2020 Expansion with the Vekoma Multi Launcher will have at least 1 new Kiddie Coaster too.
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Soonjai if I were a Six Flags executive, I would’ve added another kiddie coaster for Magic Mountain so that WCR could still be their 20th coaster.
@thegabrielchannel818
@thegabrielchannel818 4 жыл бұрын
In graphic design, we had this project where we would make a “vision board”, after which, we went around rating other peoples’ vision boards. We had to give one good thing and one bad thing about each one. One of the bad things I wrote were: “You put Viper in your vision board”
@karlscoasters1643
@karlscoasters1643 4 жыл бұрын
I think canadas wonderland should remove flight deck and time warp and put in a large invert or flyer in that plot of land.
@oxygen3143
@oxygen3143 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a Vekoma launched flyer (if they would actually build a coaster in America)
@JeremyCoasters
@JeremyCoasters 4 жыл бұрын
3 Options for CW: 1. Remove Wilde Beast and The Bat and Speed City Raceway and add a ground up RMC Hybrid like Zadra. 2. Remove Flight Deck and Time Warp and add a Record breaking wing coaster. 3. A Mack Extreme Spinning Coaster were action theatre is.
@shane952
@shane952 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Coasters all of those sound good to me. CW really needs more good coasters.
@wizparrissa8632
@wizparrissa8632 4 жыл бұрын
I say we need a b&m invert before a Mack
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll take an RMC Wilde Beast as long as they make a Fraggle Rock reboot and use it for a Traveling Matt segment. I also want a spin off of Step by Step and use Twisted Colossus in the opening.
@TN-wv6ok
@TN-wv6ok 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Coasters I wouldn’t be surprised to see Time warp and flight deck replaced by an invert
@Trainlover1995
@Trainlover1995 4 жыл бұрын
Dosware Pictures Can’t be done without Jerry Nelson.
@cyber5257
@cyber5257 4 жыл бұрын
"There is a law preventing RMC from doing their work in canada" Me: sad canadian noises Holy crap, with this amount of support we can take this to the parlement!
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
dish soap Blame Canada
@snowyicicle1335
@snowyicicle1335 4 жыл бұрын
Its cause Canada hates us because they got Green Lantern First Flight
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
JadenTheRobRenzettiFan NAUTTP Why didn’t Paramount build a South Park at CW? Is it because it’s too mature? Or because Time Warner co-owned Comedy Central at the time?
@AmusementLabs
@AmusementLabs 4 жыл бұрын
What is that? The sound of maple syrup getting wasted of the sound of bad poutine??
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын
LoL
@chrisbender8714
@chrisbender8714 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon mountain (another Arrow looper) at Marine Land in Canada could get the axe... But that could be said for the entire park.
@talesfromthetrip
@talesfromthetrip 2 жыл бұрын
You and ElToryRyan are probably the best roller coaster channels. Some are more fancy, but don't have the same personality. I find that to be the most important part of a YT channel.
@djsugarc1075
@djsugarc1075 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather have gemini than a dueling gci
@stu5107
@stu5107 4 жыл бұрын
I think if sfgam got rid of eagle, or rmcd it, it would be a lot better. It’s so rough, and uncomfortable. If they rmcd it I think it would be like twisted colossus. If they tear it down, intamin could probably build a nice new coaster, unlike the American eagle.
@wutduh8697
@wutduh8697 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I would like them to, they definetly won't be building any new coasters for a while at the park. And if they did, it would be tiny and short. They better rmc that thing
@xenonkyre6974
@xenonkyre6974 4 жыл бұрын
Sparky Student I would have to disagree with you there. Sure, the American Eagle isn’t the smoothest rollercoaster out there, but I wouldn’t say it’s uncomfortable by any means. I feel it gives it character to the ride. Even for being an older coaster, I find it has great airtime hills and is overall still a fun experience. However, I can understand the reasons on why it might be a good idea to RMC the coaster. Though, I feel destroying the ride would cause Great America to lose a bit of its charm.
@matt0119
@matt0119 Жыл бұрын
I like how every time we question if Cedar Point will remove Gemini, it's always something else. We questioned if Wicked Twister or Gemini would be the spot for the new coaster, Wicked Twister got the axe. We questioned if Gemini may be removed to make room for a new coaster, Top Thrill Dragster is either being remodeled or removed. Cedar Fair must be a Gemini fan too cause every time coaster crowds point to Gemini to be removed, they remove something else.
@lukestreams5956
@lukestreams5956 4 жыл бұрын
Airtime: Have you ever had that coaster that you wanted to ride but it closed down? Gp: Oh yeah the wooden one!
@tismejaytee
@tismejaytee 4 жыл бұрын
E
@lukestreams5956
@lukestreams5956 4 жыл бұрын
Coaster Fusion Already man 😂
@lukestreams5956
@lukestreams5956 4 жыл бұрын
Coaster Fusion We are like the same person, comment everywhere, both subbed to smaller coaster channels, Home park is SFOT. Coincidence, I think not...
@tismejaytee
@tismejaytee 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukestreams5956 Lol
@colemouledous4817
@colemouledous4817 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Streams I mean I comment to everything, sub to smaller channels, and live 45 minutes away from SFOT
@LindsayTVFilm
@LindsayTVFilm 4 жыл бұрын
GCI has their own steel track, I've heard GCI should retrack Wildcat
@SomeRandomAccount5
@SomeRandomAccount5 4 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Yale Entertainment Rather have RMC do it though
@patrickwagner98
@patrickwagner98 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be fitting to have their first retrofit (if they're gonna do them) to be their first coaster.
@SomeRandomAccount5
@SomeRandomAccount5 4 жыл бұрын
That’s just my opinion. Yeah It looks Cool but do they have the space?
@patrickwagner98
@patrickwagner98 4 жыл бұрын
@@SomeRandomAccount5 to retrack Wildcat, no doubt. Depends if it's just a retrack or they want retrofit. Haven't seen them do one. I'm sure they could fit something there. I believe there is space around the ride even.
@jamesparkerjr5539
@jamesparkerjr5539 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're going to end up having most of these Cedar Fair ones removed for sure. Mostly bad rides, although I still really enjoy Gemini.
@TheSonicsean
@TheSonicsean 4 жыл бұрын
I see CP removing the mine ride before Gemini. The longest wait I've ever seen for it is 10 minutes, which was on the literal busiest day they've ever had.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSonicsean That's because it has a height requirement of 48in. What else has a 48in requirement at CP? Well Gemini, Magnum, Millenium Force, and Blue Streak. Why the hell would anyone that height want to ride the boring mine ride when they can ride any of those? If CP replaced the trains so smaller kids could ride CCMR could be a decent family coaster but instead it's unloved.
@danielles3841
@danielles3841 4 жыл бұрын
Mine ride is great, y'all are just mean
@that21pilotsfan9
@that21pilotsfan9 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielles3841 it holds tremendous sentimental value for many but takes up prime real estate in the park and is in pretty big danger of getting closed soon.
@_lucas_1k_
@_lucas_1k_ 4 жыл бұрын
I always get exited to watch your vids! Keep up the good work!
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
If Time Warp gets sent to my home park, I’m gonna file a class action lawsuit against Cedar Fair, Zamperla, Paramount, Mutual Film Company, Square Enix, Canada, and Muskegon.
@TheSonicsean
@TheSonicsean 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, so you want them to send Flight Deck instead? Maybe repaint it yellow and red?
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
TheSonicsean sure. It would flush Twisted Colossus down the toilet.
@kotchapakmaneechote2062
@kotchapakmaneechote2062 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSonicsean They have to change the restraints to much less painful one
@dangerdoge4113
@dangerdoge4113 3 жыл бұрын
Square Enix? why that? I understood the other ones but what did se do
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 3 жыл бұрын
@@dangerdoge4113 they’re the current owner of the Tomb Raider series after acquiring Eidos in 2009
@spinorama29
@spinorama29 4 жыл бұрын
7:12 Valleyfair’s my home park and honestly I’ll take anything at this point. Edit: also, Shakopee is pronounced shah-koh-pee. Emphasis is on the shah
@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
I always butcher the names of towns
@spinorama29
@spinorama29 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirtimeThrills haha I don't blame you. We got some hard ones in the Midwest
@Renegade_Kyle
@Renegade_Kyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This is also my home park
@SpotTheSteez
@SpotTheSteez 4 жыл бұрын
Valleyfair is so far past the point of needing a new coaster it’s not even funny.
@spinorama29
@spinorama29 4 жыл бұрын
SpotTheSteez i would gladly take even a boomerang at this point
@silverxstar01
@silverxstar01 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to come back to this video 5 years from now and see which of these coasters are still standing.
@jillellenbecker6918
@jillellenbecker6918 4 жыл бұрын
Valleyfair is my home park, and, I agree, Excalibur is doomed. I’m surprised it wasn’t higher on your list. It’s tucked way back in the back of the park and hardly anyone goes back there anymore. When I first moved to Minnesota in 1990, it was a really big deal, but that was when Valleyfair only had about 3 coasters.
@coastervelocity3899
@coastervelocity3899 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Gemini in the thumbnail and started saying to myself, “It’s just a video.. It’s just a video...”
@Dracozek
@Dracozek 4 жыл бұрын
I'll come back to this video 5 years from now and see how many of the 20 (21) coasters have been removed, lol
@ray-uz1dd
@ray-uz1dd 4 жыл бұрын
The dislike is from someone who was on a roller coaster who tried to like the video
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
I clogged the toilet nah, it’s because of V2.
@seanlewis1148
@seanlewis1148 4 жыл бұрын
RMC American Eagle, Six Flags Great America American Eagle to *MAGNIFICENT EAGLE!!!!!*
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
I would like New American Eagle. Cause I like it’s name. Just put new in front of it like New Texas Giant.
@zuper1133
@zuper1133 4 жыл бұрын
the joke with us employees is "Ste-gle"
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
Your an employee right? So I heard Eagle is getting new trains? Is this true......I hope it does as it would be stupid to close the ride just cause the park is to lazy to replace the old trains........I’m really scared about American Eagle....I get its old...but I love it the way it is.....but I do wish the park would race it again as they don’t do it anymore possibly due to stress/ structural issues on the helix, and reports of rowdy guests throwing objects at each other while the trains are racing. I wish the park would repair and refurbish the coaster to get it racing again.....but I feel the park president Hank Salemi is not gonna do it......As cool of an RMC redo would be.....I’m just worried the coasters layout would be cut in half like with Twisted Cyclone. Plus I really dig the name too. Im dreading the day when it is announced to close..... 😰🥺😥
@zuper1133
@zuper1133 4 жыл бұрын
@@tigerrocks503chase8 I have no idea, I don't work with eagle, but I can *probably* say that that rumor is false, and us employees are told nothing, lol never trust anybody, but from what it seems eagle is going to stay for the time being.
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
Well that relieves my stress a bit.....but I’m still bothered by the fact that the park needs to fix the issue with it not racing anymore. A talked to a employee one day working at Eagle. Only blue was running and the line was pretty long which is annoying as running the red side would of made the capacity much better, even if they can’t duel it. So after I got off the blue train....I asked one of the employees why it does not duel anymore? He simply told me that they are not allowed to anymore.....kinda stinks as it kinda defeats the purpose of a racing coaster.
@andrewmiller7108
@andrewmiller7108 4 жыл бұрын
Always love your original intros, and funny songs/vines/memes you always include!!
@lucasfrombeast
@lucasfrombeast 4 жыл бұрын
SHOCK-A-PEEEEE. I love Excalibur. It’s a great coaster, however I’m sad valleyfair never gets anything new and is “second class” cause it my home park. Along with Nickelodeon universe 🙄
@celestiarulerofeques
@celestiarulerofeques 4 жыл бұрын
Go ride Excalibur! Omg it’s so fun! It’s my favorite ride at ValleyFair and it’s so sad to think they might take it out…
@totallybag8847
@totallybag8847 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad that the alleged plans for the spot in the park isn't even gonna be for a new coaster either. There's rumors of it just being a staff parking lot
@howtoplayeverything5802
@howtoplayeverything5802 4 жыл бұрын
oml this was the video the coaster communitty could have used so people would shut up about the final terrible woodies, and viper. epic video
@bigc1280
@bigc1280 4 жыл бұрын
Goliath from Six Flags New England will probably be transferred to La Ronde as that is where they dump all their failed Magic Mountain coasters.
@empjustin6560
@empjustin6560 4 жыл бұрын
I got scared when V2 from SFDK was in the thumbnail
@BrokenRealityYT
@BrokenRealityYT 4 жыл бұрын
Same it's one of my favorites at SFDK
@content6032
@content6032 4 жыл бұрын
last time I was there I just kept riding it over and over
@VBshredder
@VBshredder 3 жыл бұрын
Been binge watching your stuff while multitasking lately. Two thumbs up, best coaster channel i've found.
@rianrassette8707
@rianrassette8707 4 жыл бұрын
GEMINI TO MICHIGAN"S ADVENTURE
@waffleboi_7804
@waffleboi_7804 4 жыл бұрын
That would be much better than removing it. It holds to much value to me
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Sure. Then my mom is gonna call it the Step by Step Coaster.
@coasterate2866
@coasterate2866 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@CoasterCollege
@CoasterCollege 4 жыл бұрын
You can't relocate that ride, it is welded together.
@coasterate2866
@coasterate2866 4 жыл бұрын
GP To Enthusiast skissors work
@triple7marc
@triple7marc 3 жыл бұрын
4:05 I can tell you first hand that they aren’t going to scrap The Demon. They just finished renovating it with some of its original theming from 1980, so it’s here to stay. The Grizzly, however, is always closed. It opens late every day and it’s definitely on the chopping block.
@nathanlopez5667
@nathanlopez5667 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you demon ain't going nowhere a lot of work has gone into that coaster and it feels much smoother than before the grizzly on the other hand may get the RMC treatment
@jaydenchrist6152
@jaydenchrist6152 3 жыл бұрын
Scrap the grizzly please. :)
@triple7marc
@triple7marc 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaydenchrist6152 No
@TheSonicsean
@TheSonicsean 4 жыл бұрын
Goliath at Six Flags America is never open? Well, as a former SFGA season passholder, that sentence gives me...Deja Vu.
@a-dub1160
@a-dub1160 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha true that
@BobMocarski
@BobMocarski 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Deja Vu
@kyhellbillyify
@kyhellbillyify 4 жыл бұрын
Invertigo was on the wall of death at KI with firehawk and vortex. I think it will definitely be going. I’m thinking at the end of next season.
@ArrowThrills
@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it's about time hopefully the bat at Kings Island stays.
@CommanderWiggins
@CommanderWiggins 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, in another universe Desperado was able to survive nuclear fallout so I don't think it's going anywhere.
@HoliestDoughnut
@HoliestDoughnut 4 жыл бұрын
Always coming up with good lists
@WhatAG23
@WhatAG23 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the time warp and flight deck plot is shaped like a thumbs down
@x8a3vier
@x8a3vier 4 жыл бұрын
As a local to Carowinds, I have to say that Carolina cyclone and nighthawk are both coasters that I would love to stay as a time capsule of design, but I'd have no problem for them to get axed in favor of something better if there was good reason to remove them. If anything, I'd love to have a new wooden coaster on the plot of land that houses nighthawk. A lot of people are still very sad and very disappointed that Carolina thunder road was removed.
@harrisonschneider8333
@harrisonschneider8333 4 жыл бұрын
0:12. I rode Vortex for the first (and only time) in July.
@invertedthrills144
@invertedthrills144 4 жыл бұрын
I rode it 4 times over my last visit. I actually really liked it. It had a minimal line so it was easy to ride.
@harrisonschneider8333
@harrisonschneider8333 4 жыл бұрын
@@invertedthrills144 I guess that's why it was removed. It wasn't so bad, but I noticed on rcdb that all of Kings Island's looping coasters pulled greater than 3gs. I think they need a "low intensity" "family" inverting looping coaster.
@gwr8723
@gwr8723 4 жыл бұрын
We'll all miss vortex
@lvdb702
@lvdb702 4 жыл бұрын
The Demon is a classic, this was my first ride when it was Marriott Great America and I loved it.
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
California’s Great America, or Six Flags Great America? Both parks were originally Marriotts Great America.
@mindlesspear8840
@mindlesspear8840 4 жыл бұрын
I was just listening to another bites the dust on my way home from school and got deja vu
@FrIeDeGgS887
@FrIeDeGgS887 4 жыл бұрын
Really wish they could have maintained American Eagle better. Been there several times now and I don’t know if I ever remembered both sides being open, but it always looks cool when you’re going by on the highway. It needs a retrack bad, I wouldn’t want to see it go.
@PenguinPat
@PenguinPat 4 жыл бұрын
I have never had any headbanging at all on Viper at SFMM. Granted, I've always sat towards the front, but I find the coaster smooth and I would be sad to see it go.
@troyvsc
@troyvsc 4 жыл бұрын
I would say more likely to take out Tidal wave and use the space that it sits in and where Green Lantern was. They could even keep it a water ride just bigger and updated.
@MrMywildside
@MrMywildside 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I never found Viper to be that bad in the way of roughness so I don’t see what the fuss is about with that one. Granted, it’s not the smoothest thing in the world, but it’s not unbearably rough IMO, either.
@98dizzard
@98dizzard 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I visited a few years ago it was so painful I spent the rest of the day nursing a headache.
@Neitenth
@Neitenth 4 жыл бұрын
@@98dizzard I've had much worse experiences with Scream than Viper.
@salesrpg
@salesrpg 4 жыл бұрын
1. Anything with a recent new paint job has plans to be around for awhile. 2. Valley Fair has such few coasters there that it would be hard to justify a removal, especially without a good replacement. 3. California Great America Grizzly had enough recent track work done to ride almost as smooth as a steel coaster. 4. Cedar Fair also looks at the cost per ride of each person, which may or may not say much, because the best rides probably cost the most. 5. In my opinion, I agree with about 95% of all your opinions, across all your videos.
@Tht1guy63
@Tht1guy63 4 жыл бұрын
The only time ive like american eagle is when they run it backwards. Its kinda rough but if i remember is smoother in reverse.
@Ice-be9ei
@Ice-be9ei 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason Anaconda is still standing is because they got rid of volcano and Cedar Fair doesn’t want to remove another coaster at KD until they get a new one.
@AmusementLabs
@AmusementLabs 4 жыл бұрын
V2??? YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!! 😭😭😭
@jelly4905
@jelly4905 4 жыл бұрын
As a former ride op at six flags great America, it’s a rumor that American Eagle can’t go anywhere due to new building codes. If they get rid of it, they could never put anything in it’s place due to its proximity to the highway. Most likely, they’ll give it the RMC treatment in order to keep their land
@venzy215
@venzy215 4 жыл бұрын
Dope channel aways strongly look forward to new videos keep them coming airtime
@edgewoodclarinet
@edgewoodclarinet 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex at kings island was absolutely my favorite ride for nostalgia reasons. I will definitely miss it. I got on it for the last time during the last weekend of haunt, and they had put the dates up and took pictures. Very sad
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
You there will be a time in the deep future where Fury 325 would be gone as everything can’t last forever....unfortunately.
@tylerabernethy1431
@tylerabernethy1431 4 жыл бұрын
Furry 325 is awesome
@kylebicker8179
@kylebicker8179 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, there might be something that dooms B&Ms and Intamins like RMC DID
@mitschy78
@mitschy78 4 жыл бұрын
I think others on this list should be(wanted to mention 2 good slc’s, Riddles Revenge and Fly-The Great Nor’ Easter Sea Serpent- Morey’s piers Skull Mountain- Six Flags Great Adventure The Wildcat- Lake Compound( don’t know how to spell) Canobie Corckscrew- Canobie Lake Park Flying Ace Arial Chase- Carrowinds Rougorou- Cedar Point(again with the spelling) Mind Eraser- Elitch Gardens,Darien Lake, Six Flags America El Condor- Walibi Belgium
@themagicboy6548
@themagicboy6548 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Goldrusher was less jarring than viper the last time I went to magic mountain
@overbanked
@overbanked 4 жыл бұрын
IMO that most jarring coaster experience at SFMM is X2 (outside seats). I enjoyed the inside seats (much more smooth than the outside seats).
@CesarGuzman84
@CesarGuzman84 4 жыл бұрын
I love gold rusher, one of my favorite rides.. I know it’s a kiddie ride but gold rusher and ninja are always on my list if I’m walking by and I see no line.
@foleyas9669
@foleyas9669 4 жыл бұрын
I hope American Eagle can still stay around for even another 5 or 6 years. For such an old ride it's still very fun and the blue side is very smooth for a woodie. It's my 4th favorite ride at the park and I love to ride it once or twice a trip. Not to mention how iconic it is, it would just feel kind of wierd driving down the highway and not passing that helix and seeing whatever elements RMC (Or now GCI) put into it. I still think it would be even the best ride in the park if it is RMC'ed, but I like it as it is.
@rileyatkinson6737
@rileyatkinson6737 4 жыл бұрын
Earlier today on Kentucky kingdom’s Instagram they teased that they were removing T3 and tagged RMC
@SlightSillyBilly
@SlightSillyBilly 4 жыл бұрын
My home park is Six flags Great America and eagle is the by far the most painful coaster at the park( some people may disagree because of demon) but I think some sort of RMC similar to twisted colossus or possibly a raptor I would love to see either though.
@shmoogboing2785
@shmoogboing2785 4 жыл бұрын
Damn it my noti didn’t work...well I saw your insta and I clicked faster then dragster after that
@randomoverpopulatedworldid3286
@randomoverpopulatedworldid3286 4 жыл бұрын
the grizzly is a classic but it literally hurts to ride if you have mild back issues and the park is aware of that.
@a-dub1160
@a-dub1160 4 жыл бұрын
The American eagle is my favorite coaster of all time. I would be heartbroken. I pray for the retracking.
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I love it the way it is. Problem is the park is not allowed to race it anymore.
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
They have attempted multiple retracks on it but it does not help with the ride not racing anymore.
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed it was.
@BobMocarski
@BobMocarski 4 жыл бұрын
@@tigerrocks503chase8 It is not that park is not allowed to race. It is the fact that the ride is old and wear and tear has set in. The ride is rough in spots especially in the helix. It has been known to shake while racing around the helix.
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
I knew age was a factor to it non racing.
@alanthesuperhero
@alanthesuperhero Жыл бұрын
So far, only Wicked Twister and Goliath are entirely gone. Wildcat was RMC'd and Desperado is being prepared to potentially reopen
@saberline152
@saberline152 4 жыл бұрын
you're constantly saying RMC it, you could also just let GCI rework the track if it's still a good layout also take a shot every time he says RMC
@rikp
@rikp 5 ай бұрын
As of April 2024, over four years later, you guessed three correct - 13. Wicked Twister (closed 2021), 8. Wildcat (closed 2022, RMCed 2023 -- as you guessed), and 5. Goliath/SFNE (closed 2019). Desperado is still SBNO. The video date is 12/3/2019 so there are still eight months to go...
@jstyxx4110
@jstyxx4110 4 жыл бұрын
2:04 You know Viper’s still there right? I know you’re talking about the Mega Loopers, but ok. Also if someone like B&M made modern clones of them I wouldn’t be as sad to see it go. Also I’m nervous on RMC’s future as they may do too many projects at once. Gemini’s removal is going to anger GP->E. Removing GA’s Green Lantern makes sense as it’s awful, and we already have a floor less. Just convert it and give it to Frontier City for an easy attendance booster. Considering were receiveing JDevil in 2020, 2023 would be a perfect oppurtunity to put a big flagship ride. Why is that the first coaster I see when in the parking lot is Green Lantern (K Ka excluded).
@harleystubbs6199
@harleystubbs6199 Жыл бұрын
You were right about wildcat and wicked twister
@mr.rollercoasters
@mr.rollercoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Every Arrow Looper on paper should because they don't last 50 years lol
@cameron9037
@cameron9037 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Loch Ness Monster is 42 years old and it’s holding up pretty good.
@VWdabug
@VWdabug 2 жыл бұрын
You were right about wicked twister in a way It was scrapped but it was removed
@fo-ef8qo
@fo-ef8qo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm out of the loop on the RMC-Canada thing (pun maybe intended?) But whats up with RMC and Canada?
@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Canada has a protectionist law saying that you need to use Canadian companies to do work as long as they're qualified to do so before a foreign company is allowed to come in. RMC uses their own builders
@patrickholland901
@patrickholland901 4 жыл бұрын
Airtime Thrills Protectionism is a terrible thing in North America and this is one of the downsides. Shame on you, Canada!
@sheeple04
@sheeple04 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickholland901 United States does a lot more protectionism then Canada.
@fo-ef8qo
@fo-ef8qo 4 жыл бұрын
TIL thanks for the tidbit!
@lsmentertainment3577
@lsmentertainment3577 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Anaconda was supposed to be next after they removed Shockwave, but the park had two unplanned losses- Hurler and Volcano. As expendable as Anaconda is, the park knows it can't get away with removing another coaster until they add something major. That being said, I think Anaconda will be gone as soon as the next major coaster moves in (probably whatever is taking Volcano's land).
@ternedo6074
@ternedo6074 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet, if Goliath at SFNE isn't here idk what to say.
@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Oh its on there
@ternedo6074
@ternedo6074 4 жыл бұрын
Airtime Thrills ok good. As that being my home park everytime there I look at that massive thousand or two ton monstrosity that I would rather impaling my stomach than taking up that plot of land. I’d rather the actual goliath itself take his massive hands and use them to wrap them fully around my neck and crank it cleanly off before I’d debate riding this
@tigerrocks503chase8
@tigerrocks503chase8 4 жыл бұрын
Goliath used to be a way better ride before it got that new train from Chance Rides. It’s a shame Goliath has now turned into a pile of junk.
@rayvinson1414
@rayvinson1414 4 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how people forget that Texas has three major amusement parks with Six Flags over Texas owning at least three coasters well past their prime. The Judge Roy Scream physically loses some wood with every storm that comes through plus it sits on a good sized piece of land that could house a better coaster.
@thenextbestamericanrecord
@thenextbestamericanrecord 4 жыл бұрын
Viper is my literal favorite and if the remove it I would be so sad
@overbanked
@overbanked 4 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite large Arrow looper (even over Tenn Tornado, which is too short IMO).
@cryptic4762
@cryptic4762 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree about Invertigo. It has 20-30 minute lines when it’s open. Invertigo is probably their 6th most popular coaster after beast, Diamondback, Mystic timbers (which barely has a 10 minute wait?), banshee (literal walk on), and flight of fear. I get that boomerangs have bad capacity and MT and Banshee have great capacity, but KI seems to care about Invertigo a lot. Downtime is decreasing as well. I’d give it 10 years maybe 15 if they really go for it. It’s in such a small corner of the park anyways BUT I’ve always said getting rid/relocating Congo Falls, getting rid of the theatre cause it’s never in use, and relocating Invertigo to another CF park offers a great first impression coaster views at the gate. Sort of like Gatekeeper. My bet is that it’d be a Dive coaster (unfortunately) or an RMC at the gate if they ever did it
@DoswarePictures
@DoswarePictures 4 жыл бұрын
Invertigo gets long lines because they have one train ops. If they had two trains, there’s a chance it might be dead.
@BobLecast
@BobLecast 4 жыл бұрын
Volcano, made my plans to visit kd the day before they announced its removal....
@ericgalowitsch9662
@ericgalowitsch9662 4 жыл бұрын
Canada's Wonderland still has some land available by overlapping coasters, CW can also use part of their parking lot to, since their parking lot is so massive.
@RollerCoasterFrolicking
@RollerCoasterFrolicking 3 жыл бұрын
Welp guess he was right with the wicked twister one
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