20 watt Comgrow for Z1, D1, LM2 and LM3

Testing out the newest module from Comgrow, A 20 watt module adapted to fit multiple machines including the Comgrow Z1, XTool D1, Ortur LM2 and Ortur LM3. I try it on my Z1 and my LM3. DISCOUNT CODES BELOW!!
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[@ptmmatssc13]

I bought this module and have the Z1. Couldn't get it to work. Had 3 sets of cables and none of them were right. Contacted the company and they sent the correct cable via China. Got it and oh boy, what a difference from the original module. I did fix the issues with the limit switches and zero problems. Cuts SOO much faster. Can do what took me 2 hours in 1/2 hour or maybe a hair more. Thanks to your vids I was able to get this working flawlessly. Definitely a good upgrade for my machine.

[@TheClackShack]

Good deal

[@MKCraftsandFamily]

Thanks for taking the time to run tests! I will definitely consider the 20watt when it comes time to upgrade my 10Watt!

[@TheClackShack]

Any time!

[@rightpassage]

Your gonna hit your video quotas today!! Great vids, thanks!!😄

[@TheClackShack]

Hope so!

[@Vintauri]

Awesome stuff! I think this is an awesome upgrade for the Ortur! Speed and Power!

[@TheClackShack]

It really is!

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

@@TheClackShack yes but having the z1 I was hoping the review with the z1 would have been better not choosing to make a Franken-laser with an Ortur Frama / Comgrow head combo. Still think the z1/Comgrow head is a better combo. Specially since I sped up my z1 with 20k travel speeds ($100/101 in Grbl) and 5k accel ($110/111) & Homung & move speeds in LightBurn both set to 8k too. Makes the z1 super fast (maybe faster than the Ortur) and still accurate and repeatability is not affected.

[@qapla]

Nice, honest review - Thanks. I have been considering the D1 this video reinforces that leaning.

[@TheClackShack]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MarklTucson]

Good review. Good solution to fix what should never have been an issue. That seems a huge oversight on the part of the designers to not be plug and play compatible with one of their flagship products.

[@TheClackShack]

It is plug and play if you run it as "current position" I just do alot of repeat products and prefer limits

[@ericeinsmann5559]

Great video! I may have to get one! The only laser I have is the Comgrow Z1. I have already been talking to them about adding limit switches on all four sides and I think that would be necessary for this larger module. I am confident that I can make the limit switches adjustable to accommodate the larger laser. Maybe after Christmas.. Good job! Thanks again!

[@TheClackShack]

If you run it on current position, it works much better. It took some testing to figure out the best setup.

[@Lonewolf0161]

The y-axis switch is already adjustable on mine. It has the t-nuts holding it in place. Only issue will be the x-axis might just tape a spacer on block.

[@LIMoto-oh5tx]

has anyone figured out the limot switch issue on the z1?

[@ericeinsmann5559]

@@LIMoto-oh5tx on how to adjust the X axis limit switch to account for the larger laser module? I screwed a small wood block to trip the limit switch sooner so the module didn't crash. Been working fine since then

[@thebosun181]

Thanks for this. The laser module seems to take away alot of room, especially towards the front due to mounting position during your 1st test. It sure has some potential

[@TheClackShack]

Using current position, it works well but you do loose some area.

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

Yeah, I heard about it in the Comgrow Z1 Users Group…

[@TheClackShack]

It works

[@williamkennedy4264]

Not my favourite manufactures, this module should not have sold as a single module but a complete unit well presented as you normally show to us the viewers, nice one David

[@TheClackShack]

I suspect it will get a frame for it soon. That seems to be the standard for most manufacturers. XTool did the same with their 20 watt module. Thanks

[@vanshaw7650]

You do great and informative videos. KUDOS!! Where do you get your 4.5mm wood? Thanks again for the great videos.

[@TheClackShack]

I have some videos, it is 1/4 inch underlayment. I get it in 4x8 sheets.

[@chip8524]

You could turn homing off in device settings.

[@TheClackShack]

I have, you can run from current position to avoid crashes

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

Will need to adjust the y stop for the larger module not to hit the front extrusion when homing. And will lose some y travel from the standard 400 y travel…

[@TheClackShack]

I cut it down to 380 but it still touches. It works well so far, made the video first day I had it. Been using it for a couple weeks now

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

@@TheClackShack did you send Comgrow the info for updating the instruction they send out with production units, I’m hoping? So buyers don’t have the same problems?

[@donalddickey1686]

There was a discount code that came up for me C70 for an additional $70 off. Possibly it’s for returning customers, but that brought it down to $399 total including shipping.

[@TheClackShack]

Yea, they had a special going for the first few

[@donalddickey1686]

I ordered one yesterday. I’m also adding the extension kit.

[@bneil4059]

Nice test. Can you easily re mount the original 10W module or is it a time consuming process to switch back? Ortur sent me a svg template to cut out standoff spacers that can be installed using the existing limit screws on the side rails. I really do like my LM3 but sometimes wish it had a little more juice. I am holding out for their 20W upgrade, but this Comgrow option looks decent.

[@TheClackShack]

It isn't difficult but does take a few minutes.

[@jeffteeter501]

Can you change the position of the hard limit switches on the Comgrow?

[@TheClackShack]

I haven’t attempted it yet. I plan to figure out a way

[@normnelson]

Why not mount the 20W module high enough on the Z1 so that the 20W's hose and handle don't hit the side frames, and then just bring your work piece up a corresponding distance, to bring it into focal range? Like maybe stack two or three honeycombs? Or am I missing something?

[@TheClackShack]

I think you vastly underestimate the size of the module. It is 4 times larger than the original. It hits on 3 sides.

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

What Comgrow frame is that? My Z1 does not have that RED button box on the near (front) right area…

[@TheClackShack]

That’s part of the module kit

[@z3us226]

Great stuff bud!! I have been watching your videos and like the 20w setups you have. I am in the market for a laser to start a good side hustle with and finding out for a good 20w setup with all the bells is around 2K and honestly i can get into a monport/omtech mid range 55-60 watt for 2500ish.. whats your thoughts? thanks!!!!

[@TheClackShack]

It just depends on your intended use of the machine. You have to weigh the options, is power more important than versatility? Just make sure the machine will work for your projects. Each type of machine has its strong points and weak points.

[@kirkpreston7]

I'd love to see how this works on the ortur laser master 2 frame and if there are any issues

[@TheClackShack]

I do not have a LM2, sorry

[@billlester3088]

Great video, very informative, is there a particular version of Lightburn for Ortur master 3 that supports svg,dxf,jpg etc.? Thanks

[@TheClackShack]

Lightburn supports opeing most any imahe type file including all of the above. You cn export as .ai .dxf and .svg.

[@billlester3088]

@@TheClackShack Thanks very much, keep the projects coming.

[@MatthewHinmanTexas]

Curious how this module will work with the xTool D1, or if it would be best to spend the difference on the (more expensive) actual xTool 20W module.

[@TheClackShack]

If you use the add on module, probably about the same.

[@GaryJimenez]

So now that Xtool have introduced the 4o watt laser will you upgrade to that one? I'm thinking about it. I found that I do more cutting than I had originally anticipated.

[@TheClackShack]

Until I find a need for more power, I am gonna keep going with my 20 watts.

[@jessetutterrow4320]

By chance do you know if / how well the module works with the Ortur LM2 Pro?

[@TheClackShack]

No, it works great on the LM3. Pretty much the machine just moves the module around in the work area. The module has its own power components.

[@WilcoxRanch]

Are you using Lightburn for your test runs or the manufacturer provided software?

[@TheClackShack]

Lightburn is all I use

[@martymeunier4862]

Can you move the two set screws on the ortur lm3 there are two more holes

[@TheClackShack]

I could only get 2 of them to align. Works well though

[@donalddickey1686]

I ordered and received the Comgrow 20W Laser Module, but the adapter marked XT from Comgrow doesn’t match the XTool D1 Pro cable (The XT adapter from Comgrow has 8 pins and the XTool cable has 9 pins). I’ve contacted Comgrow and I’m still waiting for a response. If anybody has received this module I’d like to know if there is a separate adapter labeled XT D1 Pro or something will fit. I think the correct adapter was left out of the box.

[@TheClackShack]

I haven’t tried to put it on the XTool. They may have left it out

[@donalddickey1686]

I ordered the Comgrow 20W Laser Module, but the connector on my XTool D1 Pro doesn’t match the adapter marked XT. The other adapters are marked CO, OR2 and OR3. Isn’t this supposed to be compatible with the D1 Pro?

[@TheClackShack]

It says that it is, I haven’t tried it yet. There was a section in the manual for XTool.

[@donalddickey1686]

@@TheClackShack The adapter is different. One has 8 pins and other has 9 pins. I’m waiting on their response from their engineering department, but it seems that the shipment may have left out the correct adapter.

[@UnitTx1953]

Will Comgrow 20 Watt work on the Xtool D1 10 watt (NOT the PRO)? When I go to Comgrow website via your link. it shows 20-WATT FOR XT D1 PRO 10W???

[@TheClackShack]

I can’t say for sure, the plug may be the difference. I have not installed it on my D1 pro 20 watt.

[@UnitTx1953]

@@TheClackShack If you have some time on your hands? Could you look to see if it might work?

[@axeldejesus2060]

Hello there, thanks so much for this video. I just got this module for my OML3 As you know this module is much larger than what comes with the OML3. Do I need to adjust the work space size to accommodate this module, or will it work fine with the settings for the 10 Watt that comes with the machine?

[@TheClackShack]

I adjusted my workspace to accommodate

[@axeldejesus2060]

Thanks. May I ask what size did to adjusted to?

[@axeldejesus2060]

Do I need both power supplies connected to the machine?

[@axeldejesus2060]

Thanks so much for all your help. I got it working and I love it!!!

[@amoreyjones565]

Need some help with the z1 it just wont connect im on windows11 I installed the driver that came with the USB download laser grbl and lightburn install both they dint find the laser I tried adding it manually and was still unsuccessful.what i do?

[@TheClackShack]

Check under device manager and see what is showing up in the “ports” section. You may have to uninstall the machine and reinstall it if the driver didn’t work. You should see the device under ports. That port is the number to select in lightburn. Was it the CH340 driver? If so, look for the port labeled ch340

[@amoreyjones565]

I got it to connect laser grbl but not lightburn

[@amoreyjones565]

In device manager it's there working correctly but it still wont connect to lightburn

[@davidsohlstrom6977]

How do you think this will work if you put it in your D1 10 watt. I see a $70.00 price difference for Xtools 20 watt for D1

[@TheClackShack]

It should work with the standard model. The pro has limit switches and there would be a similar issue to what I had with the Z1. I have found that if you run current position and hand place, it is easier to avoid crashes. Also have to downsize the workspace dimensions some.

[@davidsohlstrom6977]

@@TheClackShack Well I bit the bullet and bought one. Now I see they are running a sale for $399.oo

[@user-xj4uj1kr6k]

Can you not reposition the limit switches on the Z1, I understand it means less work space, but surely not too much

[@TheClackShack]

You could. I made an extender and moved them in a later video.

[@billieb]

Clack, you said you liked almost as much as ortur. I don't have a machine to "repurpose" so I am back to the question. buy 20w comgrow or ortur or atomstack? What do you think after seeing the comgrow?

[@TheClackShack]

I like the 20 watt module, not crazy about it on the Z1 frame but it works. On the LM3, its a beast and is faster than my D1 pro 20. I do like atomstack machines but haven't had a chance to try the 20. Steve has one and says it is a good machine.

[@billieb]

@@TheClackShack They are already sold out of the 20 w head! I think I am going with atom stack.

[@Taliesen.]

Nice upgrade for a OLM3 if the 10W dies but I can't see paying that much for the 10->20W upgrade and setting the nearly new 10W aside.

[@TheClackShack]

It is a cheaper alternative to buying a full 20 watt setup. I needed the ortur to be 20 watts for the jobs that I do.

[@Taliesen.]

@@TheClackShack Ya, makes more sense for somebody making money from their laser.

[@bclp52]

Was it worth the price for the ortur? Might get one in near future

[@TheClackShack]

The LM3 is still running the 20 watt comgrow and doing a good job.

[@kimgorshe6184]

Do you offer lessons for any of your laser? 😊

[@TheClackShack]

I have a lot of videos that may help. Also have a few more in the works…

[@donalddickey1686]

I received an email back from Comgrow asking me to take photos of both sides of the XTool D1 Pro mother board specifically the area where the cable is attached. It seems a little off to have a customer do this. Thoughts?

[@TheClackShack]

They may be wanting to confirm that there aren't more than 1 designs for the machine. I have seen some differences in machines in my experience. It is possible that XTool used different plug designs. Comgrow has always worked with me pretty well.

[@donalddickey1686]

@@TheClackShack Thanks for the response. It’s hard to keep up with all of the changes and add on’s for the diode lasers and some of these machines look like prototypes. I’m ok with trying to address this. Just trying to make sure I’m not wasting my time.

[@donalddickey1686]

@@TheClackShack Comgrow did respond and said their engineer is sending out a new cable within 24 hours. Hopefully I’ll have something going next week.

[@TheClackShack]

@@donalddickey1686 cool

[@donalddickey1686]

After sending photos of the XTool D1 Pro mother board pin out, Comgrow sent me a new adapter cable. I set up the Comgrow 20W Laser Module in the XTool D1 Pro frame and ran materials tests. There’s a major difference with 20W. I’m testing to refine my settings. I also need to work on homing and cable routing.

[@mypapaG]

Bought the Comgrow 20w for my Xtool D1. WORST DECISION I COULD HAVE MADE. wiring for laser and adapter cable is wrong. Have been going back and forth with pictures for a month and no help at all. It is not compatible Xtool D1 in my case. So disappointed.

[@TheClackShack]

Hate to hear that, It worked great with my LM3. The wiring was a little tough, I had a couple wires reversed the first try. Luckily it didn't hurt it and I found the issue.

[@pudseugenio4118]

Let this mature first, don't jump to fast. Don't jump on the first lunch wait for the version 2

[@TheClackShack]

I figure a 20 watt machines chasis will follow soon

[@kaotik78]

Shame Comgrow no longer offers this upgrade module for z1 owners. They never responded to inquiries on this module and now appear to be sold by a company called Sovol who responded to my inquiry with “ It is not recommended to upgrade your z1 to 20w. The installation positions of 10W and 20W are different, and the adapter cables are also different. It is not recommended to change.” Seems like a load of hog wash, too bad it’s not around anymore.

[@TheClackShack]

It worked pretty well for me, I am not sure why they stopped using it.

[@logoidea4u]

How can you make your machine go back Left wen is done engraving? I wanted mine to do so!! I have a Comgrow Z1 10w, I appreciate your help.

[@TheClackShack]

Setting the "return to" location in lightburn kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWqwmWBjo9eSa6c

[@logoidea4u]

@@TheClackShack I did what it is on the video, but still going to home front,😔 What I did wrong ? I have a Comgrow Z1

[@TheClackShack]

@@logoidea4u , home is set on the controller and I advise against changing it unless you have 4 limit switches. Return to setting takes over after the burn.