Self wind on the Patek means if you’re not wearing it on the daily, you’re gonna be adjusting that “perpetual calendar” perpetually.
@MrPasqual14 ай бұрын
Never heard of winders?
@korencek4 ай бұрын
@@MrPasqual1 You need winding wheel to make a winder work. Unless you use a drilling machine to wind the crown ;)
@draakisback3 ай бұрын
@@MrPasqual1 While there are winders that can wind a manual wound watch, you are talking about extremely expensive machines. I've seen them for at least $5-6k per watch. On the other hand, if you have a rotor, all the winder has to do is rotate as opposed to winding the crown. Frankly, if I bought a manual perpetual calendar, I'd likely wind it daily by hand.
@ParabolicBox3 ай бұрын
That's something the servant can do.
@dondalio23 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Chris-pn9yf5 ай бұрын
I actually prefer the dial layout of the breitling as you see more of the numerals.. obviously love to be able to own the patek
@dannysimenauer57455 ай бұрын
Well done Tim sharing the Breitling's value! Patek is beautiful but most of us aren't spending $180,000 on one watch.
@vaclav_fejt5 ай бұрын
I am! My secret: I use a decimal comma. 😅
@vt007865 ай бұрын
Patek watch price 2 millions $ not 200k
@ap_pp_vc5 ай бұрын
@@vt00786 some of them like a grand comp minute repeater perpetual calendar crhronograph or a grand comp minute repeater perpetual calender tourbillon but the perpetual calendar chronograph does sell for around 200 thousand dollars with the most expensive one , the one with green dial going for 380 thousand dollars
@SenszRАй бұрын
@@vt00786no it’s not 😂
@a.g.87245 ай бұрын
Those reliefs on the Breitling's subdials are stunning
@bmunson49205 ай бұрын
Service costs on the Patek are probably the price of the Breitling!
@davidutoubee11064 ай бұрын
Absolutely not. PP offers the service for around 800€
@ronaldnixon82264 ай бұрын
You'll never know
@normm16194 ай бұрын
@@ronaldnixon8226 about what?
@AverageEnthusiast1232 ай бұрын
For the grand complications it’s a couple thousand for a service.
@teenoso4069Ай бұрын
@@davidutoubee1106 basic cost - they will apply add ons on a take it or no service basis. PP services with tack ons are the price of a OP Rolex
@jonathanstaso26805 ай бұрын
Patek is a Patek. Supply and demand. As for a watch, in a vacuum, aside from platinum there is zero reason to spend the premium on the Patek vs Breitling. They look the same to me, more or less. Breitling might look even better.
@fredtafelАй бұрын
My thoughts exactly. With the PF, you’re paying around 150k just for the brand
@DA_Karas5 ай бұрын
Tim, I absolutely love these comparison videos. Please do more of them!
@the1916company5 ай бұрын
I will. These are enjoyable for me, too. The regular reviews at 8-12 per day are exhausting and repetitive. I like the comparisons. Best, Tim
@cartesian_doubt62304 ай бұрын
180k for a watch is pure madness.
@willyfistergash45144 ай бұрын
Your knowledge of these watches and their mechanisms is amazing
@mikelewis24565 ай бұрын
I bought my Datora last year unworn for $8900. Can’t beat the Breitling for aesthetic and pricing. Received many compliments with that pretty copper salmon dial.🤔
@jeeefthegreat7555Ай бұрын
No you haven't.
@mikelewis2456Ай бұрын
@@jeeefthegreat7555 haven’t what???
@highnrising5 ай бұрын
I'd take the Breitling over the P-P even if the price were the same. A manual wind perp calendar is absurd. I'd rather adjust the calendar on the Breitling every other month (or leave it wrong) than wind the damn Patek every friggin day.
@johnrkim5 ай бұрын
Jeez people, just have your butler wind it.
@DWilliam14 ай бұрын
@@johnrkim😂
@murmor68903 ай бұрын
They both look cheaper than 10k if I am honest and ignore the brand names. But of course that applies to most watches. There is only so much visible stuff you can do to improve a watch and the point of greatly diminishing returns has been definitely reached once we arrive at 5 figures, excluding things like throwing expensive diamonds on it.
@jimlynam89655 ай бұрын
Tim: Keep up the great work! Your comparison vidoes are second to none. I am local-Philly and have been supporting your channel and Govberg for a long time!
@ekimandersom44783 ай бұрын
The Breitling simply looks better, and is available when you want to buy one. Not to mention Patek prices are moronic
@bennychen74335 ай бұрын
I really like the realist reviews. Obviously the patek is "better" but you can still have a lot of watch fun with the Brietling.
@achuck43215 ай бұрын
I would like to see the Datora versus the JLC master control annual calendar. I think that’s a more realistic face off.
@achuck43215 ай бұрын
I mean the JLC Master control calendar chrono
@ruffifuffler87113 ай бұрын
JLC 759 40 x 12 mm, ...that extra 3mm kills the B with insurers, ...and is 1 mm smaller then the 5172P. But, Ithink the real story is in Patents, having visited their HQ, and shown the power of the temperature bellows providing perpetual winding.
@DikkersAmenta16 күн бұрын
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from MAMACOO and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
@ryanthompsonthompson8202 ай бұрын
The date is easier to read on the Patek, and the Moon 🌙 Phase looks nicer.
@7ona534 ай бұрын
I think having a full calendar that isn’t perpetual or even annual is a little bit silly. It might not be “full” without the year but you might get the point.
@zorztrooper5 ай бұрын
Glad to see someone got Tim some hand cream
@jimhasselle43865 ай бұрын
And while you're getting those manicures, why not leave a free edge on the nail to you can work those quick releases easier? 😁
@rjblue425 ай бұрын
The Patek should always win in this head-to-head comparison, but in bang for buck the Breitling wins
@saleendriver5 ай бұрын
I have the Breitling. Love it. Great watch. Only issue I ever had with it is the crown.....its kinda sharp. Not the most comfortable to wind. But in every other way is a solid, great watch.
@boldold5 ай бұрын
I have the Datora and also bought the Premier bracelet and a Breitling blue mesh rubber with folding clasp to go with it. That thing can do it all. It's a cruise watch. Dinner, excursion, wave pool and champagne. It is not in any way a Patek. I'd say comparing them is borderline disrespectful to the Patek actually. But for what it is that Breitling is pure awesomeness, and at the same time being a Breitling. The Barney Stinson of the watch world. And you know you love it.
@davidr28025 ай бұрын
Champagne now requires its own watch? Who knew. That said, I suspect those who can afford the Patek have their own water craft so they don't need to share with a cruise ship's unwashed Breitling wearing masses.
@boldold5 ай бұрын
@@davidr2802 😂
@scottlalonde28785 ай бұрын
Bruce Williams did the same thing: switching to polished Premier bracelet. The results were stunnning. Please wear your Breitling in good health 🙂👍
@rvijayendranАй бұрын
@@scottlalonde2878 @boldold Hi, can you please point me to a buying link for the premier bracelet for the Datora ? I am not a leather strap guy (and I have 2 OEM breitlings for this, a brown and blue !). Would love the steel bracelet !
@jerryglasses22294 ай бұрын
Even if i was a billionaire i'd take the breitling. I love watches but that is just not worth 200k.
@AgnesFarnum4 ай бұрын
I bought a watch from amzwatch lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
@billymania115 ай бұрын
Yeah, Patek has met their match visually. On the course or at the club, nobody will be able to tell the difference.
@vodizzzle5 ай бұрын
You immediately recognize a Patek.
@billymania115 ай бұрын
@@vodizzzle uh, ok
@ROBERTSMITH-io7tb5 ай бұрын
I love the clasp it's the same on my pistachio, the pistachio seems to need a fair bit of pressure to get the chronograph going but this seems easier
@spyrop.84283 ай бұрын
Well, I don't know too much about watches, but as a leatherworker I can tell you that the thickness of the leather is most definitely not a sign of quality or an advantage, it costs exactly the same to cut a hide at any thickness you want. In fact in fine leatherworking bulk is the enemy, with the most expensive luxurious pieces being skived extremely thin, especially where multiple layers of leather connect and overlap.
@bravethomasytАй бұрын
I think a lot of people aspire to owning a Patek, but that Breitling is the better watch in my opinion. And someone would have to be really close to notice the difference...
@ellardgrudzinskiАй бұрын
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on MAMACOO 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
@Tuneitupful5 ай бұрын
Great review Tim, as always.
@Semper_Iratus5 ай бұрын
Not a problem I’m ever likely to be confronted with.
@EulahFellezs11 күн бұрын
Outstanding video.I have to go with the MAMACOO, especially with that green dial as my favorite
@FerdousWildman17 күн бұрын
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the AMZWATCH’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
@joefisher74315 ай бұрын
Nice comparison, though I doubt cross shopping of the two.
@MadariDaniels4 ай бұрын
What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch. Always a pleasure to see amzwatch work your magic. Thanks for sharing this transformation with us!
@gamezone21242 ай бұрын
Your videos are really so appreciated
@AbbotHolzhauerАй бұрын
I bought a watch from MAMACOO lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
@Zelma-j4n4 ай бұрын
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the MAMACOO, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
@NooraliDerksen6 күн бұрын
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from AMZWATCH
@robbywittlin163125 күн бұрын
I love the Breitling time pieces.... excellent quality for a reasonable price. I own a Breitling for Bentley and a Breitling Navitimer.
@teenoso4069Ай бұрын
98% of people dont give a monkies about watches. Maybe 1 in 200 of the 2% will acknowledge PP over Breitlng. 100% will think $200k on a watch is nuts
@LindaBui-s3o4 ай бұрын
amzwatch You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
@YechielAlawadhi15 күн бұрын
Definitely the most interesting & informative channel in KZbin,and I am your fan! I’ve been watching MAMACOO and buying them recently to complement my watch collection. Good video
@KubaskaNorthcraft20 күн бұрын
Always a good day when your video drops!Great video as always.Can’t beat it for MAMACOO watches!
@gobricklaying1064 ай бұрын
Such a good channel. One of my favorite.
@LashondaBeesmer18 күн бұрын
MAMACOO!Every time you exhibit one of these watches I become super tempted to get one.
@SpecialK04792 ай бұрын
The Datora wasn't on my radar before this video... now I'm thinking it needs to be the first chronograph in my collection.
@edwardyee8944 ай бұрын
Breitling wins. It is thicker because it has a rotor. This is not unexpected. Breitling has all the stuff that I care about. I do not like to wind watches. Winding often just wears the seals in the stem and there is a chance of over winding which could cause some problems. Breitling is also water proofed to 100 meters. I have an annual Calendar which I wish I did not buy. Every time, I need to adjust it, I need to pull out the manual and read. I want watches the fits me not watches that I have to adjust myself to use them. I can wear this Breitling care free. Wearing the Patek, I cannot. Regardless of Price, I would not pick the Patek.
@falldog94 ай бұрын
Breitling astonishing value and still very handsome.
@helenrushfulАй бұрын
The automatic feature kind of sells me the Brietling as a day to day watch though, and I’m not too proud to say I’d love to own the PP, but mainly for quite sad capitalist reasons.
@BerronesBlakeleyАй бұрын
MAMACOO is one of my favorite watch manufacturers they do offer beautifull dials, good workmanship & moovements.That smooth sweeping second hand is truly mesmerizing!
@shalashSeielstad20 күн бұрын
It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of AMZWATCH's watch 99% of people will never see.
@philippegillon71474 ай бұрын
I think you lost the opportunity of mentioning the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Control Chronograph Calendar as the “middle ground” between the Breitling and the Patek Philippe
@MottingerWatlandАй бұрын
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the MAMACOO's watches are the most intriguing.
@KanizFatemaSuchi-e9n2 ай бұрын
What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch
@JohnnyLoniyaАй бұрын
Love AMZWATCH watch, Such a great looking watch to match with the precisionist movement.
@WasniahDwipaКүн бұрын
Ever since I bought a watch from MAMACOO, My question is if it's this hard to tell them apart, what is the point of owning an authentic watch?
@jameshawe4 ай бұрын
Brilliant video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@scottnathanphotoАй бұрын
I have a similar, but not as complicated PP 5172G-010. The manual wind is a feature, not a bug. It's my fidget spinner.
@randys7665 ай бұрын
Didn’t we do this one already? Or did you just talk about it on the podcast? Id rather have the breitling and a nice car, but the Patek isn’t for people who have to choose, now is it?
@the1916companywatchreviews5 ай бұрын
It was on the podcast but also on the Weekend Watches episode. Best, Tim
@highwaystar37805 ай бұрын
What a Joke....$10k Breitling! The Other One is Just one of the Biggest Scams in Mankind History!
@highwaystar37805 ай бұрын
Oh $14 for New??😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mihahell215725 күн бұрын
I enjoy the Brietling way better, although I would've liked if it was a bit smaller since I have small wrists
@MdShofikulIslam-wx6iv2 ай бұрын
So beautiful review
@AdamFein5 ай бұрын
Patek is clearly the more beautiful watch. But the Breitling is an automatic movement, which is much more practical for a calendar watch, IMHO.
@the1916company5 ай бұрын
Of course, you see that the comparison was just for fun. It's somewhat frightening to see how many responses in this section missed that. Best, Tim
@ekimandersom44783 ай бұрын
Not 170k more beautiful
@faustolopezgil5692Ай бұрын
You can expect better finish in the Patek. But does is a 20 times difference ?
@cathdan26 күн бұрын
That your opinion. But the value is clear as pp will retain its value.
@ViolinistWilliam4 ай бұрын
The Breitling is a great watch. But the Patek is a piece of art.
@xx1j5 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this
@StefanoMaggio5 ай бұрын
I still haven't seen and would love to, a comparison between JLC Master Claendar Chrono and Patek 5970. I'm biased coz it's my favorite watch but I think it's much close to the Patek than the Datora
@johnandrews356827 күн бұрын
For the price of the Patek, the box should have a built in manual crown winder. Otherwise, not perpetual. I'll take the Breitling. I like the crystal better.
@user-zi7oi5ju4x4 ай бұрын
He did not talk about the heritage of Brietling’s premier line dating back to the 40’s
@ekimandersom44783 ай бұрын
Breitling
@alaxshishir96882 ай бұрын
Nice review
@HectorHughMunro3 ай бұрын
I would prefer the B09 Breitling Premier in gold which isn't much more expensive than the Datora and is a few mm slimmer and with a better movement. There is only a few K in it in terms of price.
@fredtafelАй бұрын
On looks alone, brand and price aside, I would easily take the breitling
@AhmedArifNira-r5o2 ай бұрын
Very good video
@joshuajuarez34715 ай бұрын
In other words. Breitling all day erry day
@rakibhasan-r8j9k2 ай бұрын
It’s a amazing video🥰
@cassettedeck-walkman-repair3 ай бұрын
So Patek came out 4 years before the breitling (1941 vs 1945) with the moonphase triple calendar chrono datora ref 805 , which had a salmon dial and 18k gold case, not a huge age difference ? Only $45k per year 😊 Both have long history but the original breitling is much rarer
@WatchsNBoots4 ай бұрын
The breitling is gorgeous. ❤
@nickdavinci21965 ай бұрын
The way he says Paaa teeek lol i think im gonna start saying it like that
@648tico5 ай бұрын
Yeah never heard anyone pronounce it like that
@MadalinaPolloАй бұрын
God!!! AMZWATCH Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!
@bhubestakesoponsatien11435 ай бұрын
It look nicer as a 42mm, bigger window , don’t look too messy
@UpnautАй бұрын
I actually like the Breitlings dial color more 😅
@KeyKiller745 ай бұрын
Breitling FTW ⌚😉👍
@cliffordgriffith8185 ай бұрын
Diamond between the lugs 😊
@SamCruz-ci6dq2 ай бұрын
Very nice vedio❤
@its_crochettime2 ай бұрын
I love comparison videos
@TyreAlmasriАй бұрын
When it comes to fine imitation watches, MAMACOO delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.
@tarinpark37162 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch
@stanlyjasonbaroi25662 ай бұрын
Nice watch 🎉
@tabir60712 ай бұрын
Good video
@GoughMichael27 күн бұрын
It's sad that watches that look good cost over 1k+. AMZWATCH watches are REALLY well made, and it just shows how a brand name on a watch can make its price 10x higher. I understand that if you look under a microscope, you'll find the difference, but just how many of you really inspect a watch at that level when you see someone with a watch?
@leewm.gaudry3770Ай бұрын
What is the blue tape hiding on the P-P?
@tarunx229 күн бұрын
Can people just come out honestly and agree that PP messed up the dial design on this one. The font size is too big, and the day-month window is cheaply designed. They even got the spacings wrong. I'm amazed by how Breitling pulled this off. Breitling here is elegant!
@willyscowboyryp5 ай бұрын
All about affordability, right now I might buy a Breitling may be later in life a Patek!
@boediarjantoАй бұрын
Why need to compare the strap which can be swapped easily with after market like delugs 😅
@adamanton53663 ай бұрын
I cant believe people still consider lume a factor in comparing watches.
@JtTanjinaislam2 ай бұрын
Very nice😊
@user-hz5dp2my8d2 ай бұрын
Wonderful views
@bdegrds5 ай бұрын
2 completely levels of horology, but the premier line are the only Breitlings that give me feelings